[1. Call to Order ]
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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES AND, UH, BEING HERE AND, UH, HELPING US MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
AND, UH, ALWAYS APPRECIATE, UH, SEEING, UH, MANY IN ATTENDANCE.
IF YOU WOULD STAND AND JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION, PLEASE JOIN WITH ME.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER THIS EVENING.
UH, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY GIFTS AND BLESSINGS.
WE DO APPRECIATE THE RAIN THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED FOR US OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS.
UH, JUST ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER THESE DELIBERATIONS.
UH, GIVE THE COUNCIL WISDOM ON, UH, THE ITEMS BEFORE THEM, AND, UH, JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE US ALL TRAVELING.
IF YOU'LL JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
COUNCILMAN SUITER, DID YOU HAVE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE? NO.
COUNCILMAN SUITER IS OVER TO OUR LEFT OVER THERE.
UH, SO I'LL BE ASKING FOR HIS VOTE ON ITEMS AS WELL.
UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE UP JUST A SECOND TO THANK MAYOR PROTE TRAVIS SMITH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UH, TODAY IS HIS BIRTHDAY, AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'S MANY OTHER THINGS HE COULD BE DOING TONIGHT.
UH, BUT THIS JUST SHARE SHOWS HIS DEDICATION, UH, AND HARD WORK, UH, FOR THE CITY.
CAN CAN WE GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE? SORRY.
[5. Public Comments]
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.PERSONS MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUES.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO THAT WILL TAKE A, TAKE
[6. Consent Agenda]
US TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE CONSENT AGENDA.ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM SIX.
CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.
ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THIS IS FOR ITEMS A THROUGH K COUNCIL.
MADAM MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS ON, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN? I WAS COUNTING, COUNTING HANDS.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7. Public Hearing on a request by Jeremy Nelson, Westfall Engineering, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Unified Lot Sign for a Child Daycare Center within a General (GR) zoning district located at 1328 and 1332 Brown Street (Property ID(s): 295112 and 295113) Owner(s): Desert Owl Realty, LLC and Buffalo Creek Plaza LLC (ZDC-83-2026) ]
US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR REQUEST BY JEREMY NELSON WITH WESTFALL ENGINEERING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UNITED LOT SIGN FOR A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER WITHIN A GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 1328 AND 1332 BROWN STREET.[00:05:01]
THEY ARE REQUESTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UNIFIED LOT SIGN USAGE.UM, THIS MIGHT LOOK FAMILIAR, UH, TO A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
THEY CAME BEFORE, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, WITH VERY SIMILAR REQUEST.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL SKIP SOME OF THE PRESENTATION, KIND OF GO TOWARDS SOME OF THE ITEMS. UM, WHAT THIS REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR WOULD BE FOR AN OFF-PREMISE SIGN, UM, IN OUR CODE.
IT DOES REQUIRE FOR A UNIFIED SIGN PLAN TO BE ADOPTED IF YOU ARE HAVING A SIGN, UM, FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
UM, THE WAY THIS PROPERTY IS ORIENTED IS THEIR MAIN ENTRANCE WILL BE COMING FROM THIS ROAD TO THE NORTH, AND THAT IS WHERE THEIR PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE LOCATED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THEY ARE ASKING ONE OF THE MAIN, UM, THINGS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR ONCE AGAIN IS, UH, GLAZING, UH, FOR THE BILLING TO BE REDUCED FROM WHAT OUR CODE REGULATES AND DICTATES.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME THEY CAME BEFORE ALL OF YOU, WHILE THE LANDSCAPING'S, THE SAME FLOOR PLAN IS THE ELEVATIONS.
THEY GO, THEY GO BACK AND RE-LOOK AT HOW THEIR GLAZING WAS BEING SHOWN ON THE BUILDING.
UM, THEY ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER THESE PILLARS OR COLUMNS RIGHT HERE, UM, WE'RE MULTICOLOR TO REPRESENT THE, THE WALL SIGN.
UM, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY WERE SHAPES.
I BELIEVE THEY WERE DIFFERENT SHAPES, BUT THEY DID GO AHEAD AND HAVE THESE, UH, PILLARS BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN, UH, 200 FEET ZERO CAME BACK IN FAVOR ZERO CAME BACK IN SUPPORT.
UH, WHEN THIS WENT TO, UH, BEFORE THE PLAIN ZONING COMMISSION.
THE PLAIN ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED, UM, O OF, OF THE REQUESTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THAT GLAZING STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THEY MEET THE 30% GLAZING, UH, PER ELEVATION PER THE SIGN CODE.
UM, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
UH, THE APPLICANT CAN, UH, COME UP.
WHY ARE WE NOT MEETING THE MINIMUM GLAZING REQUIREMENTS STILL? WELL, I I DO WANT TO ANSWER THAT.
IF, IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR YEAH, I'M GONNA, I'M WANNA DO THE INTRO.
MY NAME'S UH, JAMES WISEMAN AND I AM PARTNERED WITH JOE RUST HERE ON THE PROJECT.
MY ADDRESS IS 2 2 1 4 COSTA DALE SOUL WESTLAKE, TEXAS, AND I'M WORKING WITH JEREMY NELSON HERE, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER.
AND I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, IN RELATION TO THE TOTALITY OF THE APPLICATION.
AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE ISSUE TO DISCUSS, WHICH IS THE GLAZING ITEM.
SO WE, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE POINT THAT WE DID REMOVE THE COLUMN, UH, SIGN.
THE OFF-PREMISES SIGN WAS NECESSITATED BY THE, UH, REQUEST FROM STAFF THAT WE NOT HAVE A CUR ANOTHER CURB CUT ON BROWN TO AVOID A VEHICULAR UH, CONGESTION.
AND SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE DID DO THE LAST TIME WE WERE BEFORE YOU IS WE MADE A REAL HASH OF OUR PRESENTATION AND WE DELIVERED PLANS THAT AT THE DAAS WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE SUBMITTED THEM THE RIGHT WAY.
SO THAT IS WHY WE WITHDREW AND RESUBMITTED AND WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BOTH WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND NOW WITH YOU AGAIN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE FIRST SUBMISSION FOR A MULLIGAN AND GO FORWARD AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
THE MAIN POINT AND USE OF THE, THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOW PERPENDICULAR TO BROWN, UM, AT THE REQUEST TO STAFF WITH A, UH, OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND IS FOR A PURPOSE-BUILT DAYCARE CENTER THAT SITS IN A GENERAL RETAIL DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A 30% GLAZING REQUIREMENT ACROSS ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
WHAT WE PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CONTINUED TO IT DID NOT HIGHLIGHT AT OUR FIRST SUBMISSION WAS THE NATURE OF THE USE, WHICH IS EITHER EDUCATIONAL, AMBULATORY, MEDICAL, OR POTENTIALLY, UH, MEDICAL OFFICE TYPE USE IF FOR, IF THE DAYCARE WERE NOT TO CONTINUE.
SO THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT THE GLAZING REPRESENTS THE NATURE OF THE USE.
NOW, WHAT DOES THAT USE MEAN? THE MAIN ISSUE IS THAT THE SURFACE AREA OF THE CLASSROOMS IN THIS PARTICULAR USE IS THE AREA WHERE ALL OF THE TEACHING IS BEING DONE.
IF AT A HIGHER GLAZING REQUIREMENT, IT REDUCES THE USABLE SURFACE AREA WITHIN THE CLASSROOMS AND REDUCES THE VIABILITY OF EACH OF THOSE SPACES.
SO WHY DID WE WANT TO DO THAT? THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THAT REALLY HIT IT, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S BASICALLY THE CLASSROOM FUNCTION, WHICH IS WHAT I DISCUSSED, WHICH IS YOU WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH SURFACE AREA
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IN THERE.ANY WINDOW MAKES LESS SURFACE AREA FOR TEACHING, RIGHT? THE VISUAL AIDS, THE TEACHING SURFACES, THEY'RE REDUCED BY THE ADDITIONAL GLAZING.
SECONDLY, WITH THE USE, WHETHER IT BE EDUCATIONAL AND YOUNG CHILDREN, THEIR CHANGING STATIONS, THERE ARE CERTAIN PRIVACY AREAS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.
WE WANT SUNLIGHT IN THESE ROOMS, BUT YOU DON'T WANT SO MUCH SUNLIGHT THAT YOU HEAT UP THE ROOMS AND THEN PUSH THE ENERGY USE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
SO I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT A, EITHER AMBULATORY MEDICAL, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE REHABILITATION CENTER, WHICH I REFERENCED IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL CASES OF EITHER REHAB CENTERS, EDUCATION CENTERS THAT HAVE LOWER GLAZING THAN THE REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE USE.
SO THE NATURE OF THE CODE SUGGESTS A 30% GLAZING ACROSS COMMERCIAL USES, COMMERCIAL USE COULD BE RETAIL, COULD BE OFFICE, COULD BE EDUCATION, ET CETERA.
SO I'M ASKING COULD EVERYONE TO CONSIDER THE NATURE OF THE USE.
AND SO THE NATURE OF THE USE NECESSITATES A LOWER GLAZING REQUIREMENT FOR THIS EDUCATIONAL USE.
I WOULD POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE CLEAR SKY REHABILITATION HOSPITAL, WHICH IS ZDC 1 73, WHICH WAS ORDINANCE 33 0 8, WHICH IS A VERY CONSISTENT GLAZING ELEVATION, UH, RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IN THE BUFFALO CREEK, UH, DEVELOPMENT ZONE, WHICH IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THIS GLAZING.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, UH, THE O'REILLY AUTO PARTS, WHICH ALSO HAS A LOWER PERCENTAGE, A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE ON THE FRONT FACING AND, AND QUITE LOW ON THE OTHER THREE ELEVATIONS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO, TO HAVE THAT BE THE MODEL, BUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE GLAZING TO ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NATURE OF THE USE.
UM, AND THE LAST POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT THERE WAS, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF TECHNICAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE 30% APPLIES TO.
WE ARE BY CODE REQUIRED TO SCREEN THE HVAC ABOVE WHERE THE PARAPET LINE IS.
THAT IS UNDER STAFF'S CALCULATIONS, PART OF THE CALCULATION.
SO THAT MAKES THE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU SEE IN THE PRESENTATION SEEM, UM, EVEN LOWER THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M GRATEFUL THAT STAFF HAS THE ELEVATIONS UP.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS GLAZING WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY OR A REHAB FACILITY, BUT PERHAPS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A RETAIL USE.
AND I WILL SAY THIS AS SOMEONE THAT'S REHABBING AN EXISTING DAYCARE AND ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, THE CONCERN WAS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS, IF THIS GOES DARK, WHAT JUST GOES IN THERE NEXT? OUR REHABILITATION IS YET FOR ANOTHER DAYCARE USER.
SO I THINK THAT AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM USE OF THE BUILDING, THE GLAZING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF USE AND THE BUILDING THAT'S LAID OUT, WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY INCONSISTENT WITH BEING RETAIL, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT A CURB CUT ON BROWN AND MORE CONSISTENT WITH A DEEPER LOT THAT IS MORE LIKE MEDICAL OFFICE OR EDUCATION.
SO, SO YOUR REASONING IS THAT THE WINDOWS WILL CAUSE TOO MUCH HEAT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE IN THE ROUNDABOUT WAVE, WHICH GOT THROUGH SECONDARY, SECONDARY REASONING.
THE, THE MAIN POINT IS, OH, THE, SORRY.
THE MAIN POINT WAS THAT TEACHERS WON'T HAVE SPACE TO EDUCATE.
YOU LOSE A LOT OF THE, THE TEACHING SURFACE AREA WITHIN THE ROOMS. LITERALLY KIDS TAKE EVERYTHING ON A TABLET NOW AT, AT, YEAH.
ALL, ALL I, ALL I MEANT WAS IN THE, THE YOUNGER AGE GROUP OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC, MOST OF THESE ARE NOT EVEN, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR OLDER.
THESE, THIS IS A, THIS IS A YOUNGER DAYCARE.
SO WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING ON THE WALLS? THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT THE COLOR, THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT THE KIDS COLOR AND PUT UP.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY, THEY, THEY SHOW THE DIFFERENT SHAPES AND COLORS.
SO AT FIVE YEARS OLD, ARE THEY ON STEPLADDERS? HOW, HOW ARE THEY REACHING THE HIGHER POINTS OF THE WALLS? THE TEACHER? I THINK IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A MINIMUM FOR A REASON, UM, SIDING THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, THAT IF THE HVAC IS ON THE ROOFTOP, THAT, UM, THAT HAS TO BE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S BEING, UM, UNFAIRLY PUT ON THIS FACILITY.
UM, IT IS UNIQUELY UNLIKE THE REHAB CENTER THAT YOU CITED, UM, THIS IS ON BROWN STREET AND IT'S ON HARD CORNER.
UM, AND IT'S IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE.
AND THIS IS DOING NOTHING FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
IT'S ON BROWN AT A STOPLIGHT, UM, LIGHT OFF.
JUST MENTION IF YOU, LET'S ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS RESPECTFULLY AND, AND UNDERSTAND
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THAT MR. RUS, YOU GOTTA SPEAK FROM THE PODIUM.THE ONLY POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS, AND HE WILL MAKE THIS POINT AS WELL, UM, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WAS THAT THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN A NEWLY BUILT, UM, DAYCARE OR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION FACILITY IN THIS MUNICIPALITY.
AND A LOT OF RETROFITS OF THAT'S FALSE.
THERE'S ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN NORTH GROVE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, IT'S, IS IT CLEAR? OKAY.
MET ALL REQUIREMENTS DIDN'T EVEN COME TO US.
SO I'M NOT GONNA, ACTUALLY, I'M ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT THE POSITION YOU'RE MAKING.
I THINK THAT THE POINT THAT WE MADE WAS, WE'D LIKE TO BE, BE ABLE TO HAVE A VIABLE PROJECT FOR THE USE THAT, THAT THE PURPOSE-BUILT USE THAT WE'RE BRINGING, WE THINK THIS IS THE, THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF GLAZING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
UH, UM, JOE RUST, FOUR 40 GINGERBREAD LANE.
UM, I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER AND WILL BE A, A PART OF THE NEW ENTITY THAT, UH, UM, IS, IS HAVING THIS FACILITY.
UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I SEE WITH THIS IS THAT WE ARE IN A GROWTH PERIOD.
LIKE I, I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS SINCE THE 1979, LET'S SAY.
AND WE'RE IN A GROWTH SPURT LIKE I'VE NEVER SEEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE.
AND IT, IT, IT IS JUST SKYROCKETING THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST HAND A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS OUT.
THIS, THIS IS JUST A SHORT LIST.
NOT EVERYTHING OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ACCRUING IS HARDER.
THE ONES, THE SUBDIVISIONS AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
SO YOU'RE AWARE THIS, BUT WHEN YOU JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THIS, THIS BLOWS MY MIND AS TO WHAT KIND WE'RE SEEING JUST IN THE PAPERS THAT I HANDED YOU RIGHT THERE.
UM, WHICH INCLUDES THE MENTO DEVELOPMENT, WHICH Y'ALL JUST APPROVED IN FEBRUARY.
UM, IN, IN THESE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AT.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20,400 PLUS SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S BUILT INTO SOME OF THESE, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SUCH A, A GROWTH PERIOD COMING THAT I THINK, UH, THIS TYPE OF SCHOOL IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S REALLY GONNA NEED.
AND PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, JIMMY PORCH SAID, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS MAN.
AND I HAVE KIDS ACTING LIKE THAT.
HE MAY HAVE HIS KIDS GO THERE.
AND, UH, JENNY PARKER BASICALLY SAID THE SAME THING THAT, UH, UH, THEY WERE EXCITED TO SEE THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS COME INTO TOWN.
MR. RUST, I HAVE A QUESTION IF I COULD PLEASE.
UH, HOW FAR OFF OF THIS INTERSECTION IS THIS GONNA BE? IS IT, IS IT GONNA BE ON THE CORNER? IS IT GONNA BE A LITTLE WAYS DOWN? WHAT? OKAY.
LET, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY YOU WERE AT THE, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FIELD.
AND YOU'RE AT BROWN STREET AND INDIAN DRIVE.
THE HIGH SCHOOL'S ON THIS ONE SIDE THERE.
THEN THEY HAVE THE, UH, THE DETENTION POND ON THAT ONE CORNER, SO IT WON'T BE BUILT ON.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE THE CORNER ON THE WEST SIDE OF BROWN STREET THAT IS VACANT.
UH, IT'S ON, I BELIEVE, BY CITIZENS BANK.
UH, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THAT INTERSECTION.
AND WE HAVE A LOT RIGHT ON THE CORNER, WHICH, UH, WE TRIED TO DO A CAR WASH A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND Y'ALL TURNED THAT DOWN.
UH, THAT LOT'S STILL THERE VACANT, BUT THIS WILL BE THE LOT DIRECTLY SOUTH OF IT.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY WHAT'S CONSIDERED LOT ONE IN THE, UH, SUBDIVISION THERE.
IT'LL BE EVEN WITH THE, THE, IT'LL BE E EVEN, IT'LL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM, UM, DR.
SINGLETON'S OFFICE, THE TIN OFFICE.
YOU'RE FOUNDED BY THE PLAYGROUND THAT THEY PUT PLAYGROUND AGAINST THE WALL.
SO IT'LL HAVE A SMALL LOT THAT'LL BE, YOU MIGHT WANNA MENTION THE VACANT, LIKE THE CURRENT ONE IS.
ONE THING HE WAS JUST POINTING OUT TO ME IS THAT THE, THE PLAYGROUND PLAYGROUND'S
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GONNA ACTUALLY FRONT BROWN STREET.SO THERE'LL BE A, A LITTLE DISTANCE BETWEEN IT AND WHEN THE BUILDING ACTUALLY STARTS.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE THAT BACK ENTRANCE COMING OFF OF INDIAN DRIVE.
UM, SO, UM, BUT I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE NEXT TO THE FOUR LANE ROADWAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU CAN SEE THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS ALSO REQUIRED THAT ABUTS THE PLAYGROUND AND THEN THE SETBACK WHERE THE BUILDING IS.
AND THEN THE PARKING LOT, THAT'LL BE THE PLAYGROUND WHERE THE AIR, WHAT JUST WAS THE VISUAL SCREEN IS MANDATED BY THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
BUT, BUT THIS IS A, A PROJECT I THINK THAT, UH, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT GLAZING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO I JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR VOTE AND GETTING THIS HERE AND LET US GET IT HERE.
AND, AND AGAIN, WITH THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ON WHAT I HANDED OUT, THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT THE SECOND PLACE AND NOT TOO FAR IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE, THE REASON THAT I COULD, UH, SUPPORT, UH, THIS VARIANCE IS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.
BECAUSE IT BEING A, A DAYCARE, UH, FOR ME, IF MY CHILD WAS ATTENDING THEIR, UH, PROBABLY THE LEAST AMOUNT OF WINDOWS WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD PREFER.
UM, SO FOR ME, I COULD, I COULD SUPPORT THAT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS THAT'LL BE GOING IN THERE.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PURELY FOR SAFETY REASONS FOR ME.
MAYOR WALLACE, I, I THINK WHERE I'M STUCK AT IS THAT IT'S A, THIS IS COMING TO US BECAUSE OF A, UH, REQUEST TO FOREGO, UM, MINIMUM.
BUT, UH, IF WE FOLLOW WHAT THE BEST PRACTICE IS FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, NOT COMMERCIALLY ZONED SCHOOLS.
UM, THIS FOR LITTLE KIDS, THIS, THIS, THIS DEFEATS THAT ENTIRE PURPOSE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE BEST PRACTICES THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALREADY PUT IN PLACE FOR HOW THESE ARE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AND THEN IT'S PUTTING IT ON, ON A COMMERCIAL LOT THAT WILL NEVER GENERATE THE COMMERCIAL, UM, REVENUES.
SHOULD THE STATE LEGISLATURE DO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, UM, AND MOVE THE GOALPOST AGAIN.
WELL, I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED, UM, MORE SCHOOLS, UH, FOR OUR KIDS MORE CHOICES.
I, I AM, UH, I, I LOVE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I LOVE CHOICES.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE PARENT.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY POSITION.
WHY CAN'T THIS JUST FLIP BACK A LOT? JUST YOU OWN THE WHOLE THING.
SO WHY'S IT, WHY IS, WHY IS THE FRONTAGE SO IMPORTANT FOR THE DAYCARE, WHICH IS ALREADY A DESTINATION LOCATION TO BEGIN WITH? WHY CAN'T YOU LIVE WITH A LOWER GLAZING AND SAY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I DON'T WANT IT IN A COMMERCIAL AREA.
IF I'M BEING HONEST, I JUST MADE MY POINT ON THE FACT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS HAVE, HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR A REASON ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU HAVE A A, LIKE A AN I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL WHEN ANY OF THAT WAS APPROVED ACROSS THE STREET.
JOE DOES OWN A LOT MORE OF THIS LAND THAT, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL ON THAT CORNER.
AND THEN THOSE LOTS FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL USES THAT, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A PICKLEBALL THAT IS INTERESTING.
THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE WANT TO BUILD THAT TAX BASE.
AND THIS IS HOW WE COULD START, I CAN'T PROMISE, BUT WE DO PLAN TO DO MORE.
BUT MY ARGUMENT TO MR. RUSS WAS LET'S GET THIS ONE DONE AND THEN WE CAN TURN AND TRY TO BUILD TAX BASE ON THE BALANCE OF YOUR LAND.
I MEAN, THIS WILL HAVE GOOD TAX BASE ANYWAY.
WELL, BUT TO HIS, TO HIS POINT, YOU WANT THE, YOU WANT THE SALES TAX REVENUE, YOU WANT, YOU WANT THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ON THE BALANCE OF THIS LAND, TO HIS POINT, AND HE WANTS THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS DONE SO WE CAN GO TRY TO ACTIVATE THE REST OF IT.
SO ANY OTHER COUNSEL WANNA I JUST WEIGH IN? I JUST WANT TO, TO WEIGH IN FOR, FOR ME, I, I, I SEE THE NEED FOR THIS.
I'M NOT AS PROBABLY WELL READ AS I SHOULD BE ON WHY THE REQUIREMENTS ARE 30% VERSUS WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE WANTING TO DO.
I I, I GET, THAT'S WHAT I GET BOGGED DOWN IN.
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A VOTE OR A A A COUNCIL PERSON, I, I SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THIS.I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET FROM, 'CAUSE ALL I SEE HERE IS A GLAZING ISSUE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT'S EXPRESSING THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
I I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW MUCH, HOW MANY WINDOWS ARE WE GONNA HAVE.
UM, I APPRECIATE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM AS FAR AS WHY YOU DON'T WANT AS MUCH GLAZING.
UM, WHERE IT GETS KIND OF DISCOMBOBULATED FOR ME IS, IS THE, THE, THE WHAT IFS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS IT GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL? WELL, I I THINK THERE'S A REALLY GOOD CHANCE CONSIDERING THE GROWTH THAT YOU STATED.
AND BY THE WAY, I, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THERE, NONE OF THESE, THEY, ALL OF THIS WAS ALREADY HERE.
THE, THE, THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS APPROVED LONG BEFORE ANYONE, I I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY WAS HERE ON COUNCIL DEMENT WAS JUST APPROVED IN FEBRUARY.
NO, WE 18 THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
THEY CAME BACK FOR, FOR A CHANGE REQUEST, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ENHANCEMENTS THAN WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PD.
BUT AS FAR AS TURNING THAT DOWN, WE HAD, WE HAD NO ABILITY TO TURN IT DOWN.
THEY COULD HAVE BILLED IT JUST LIKE IT WAS ALREADY WRITTEN.
UM, AND, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, UH, COMMON, UH, MISUNDERSTANDING.
IS THAT, THAT WE DID APPROVE THAT.
IT, IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED LONG BEFORE I EVER GOT HERE.
BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT, IT WAS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND WHAT'S YES, SIR, WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE? YES, SIR.
NO, AND THAT, AND, AND YOU AND I ARE COMPLETE LOCK AND STEP ON THAT.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD FOR, FOR THIS GENTLEMAN WAS WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE AGE RANGE? I, I, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG, UH, IS IT, IS IT GONNA BE YOUNGER THAN PRE-K OR IT, IT'S, IT, IT STARTS AT AROUND TWO, TWO YEARS OLD.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME DATA ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
NOT BEING BUILT BY A SCHOOL EXCEPT REGINA.
I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACTUAL OPERATOR, IF I MAY.
SO THE NATIONAL OPERATOR OF THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE, THERE ARE OVER 400 CENTERS AND THERE ARE ABOUT 50 TO A HUNDRED OPERATING, UH, UH, OPENING PER YEAR.
UM, SO THIS WILL BE, I THINK THE THIRD ONE THAT WE'VE DONE.
SO IF, IF YOU HAD TO READ THROUGH YOUR NOTES TO KNOW ANY OF THE DETAILS ABOUT THE BUSINESS, UM, WHY HAS IT BEEN PORTRAYED AT ALL THAT YOU ARE WITH THE BUSINESS? ARE YOU NOT JUST A DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY? NO, I, I, WITH FUTURE GOALS OF DEVELOPING THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, I, I'M NOT REPRESENTING MYSELF AS, AS THE OPERATOR OF THE, BUT YOU'RE DEVELOP, BUT YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP, NOT, NOT THE HUNDRED PERCENT, NOT THE END OPERATOR.
SO WHY ARE WE NOT JUST THEN LOOKING AT AN IN, AT AN ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? WHY, WHY, WHY IS THE GOAL TO, UH, VULTURE PICK, UM, ONE PLOT AT A TIME? I MEAN, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE OTHER PLANS FOR A PICKLE BALL.
UM, I DON'T, IT IT EXCEEDS THE SCOPE OF MY AUTHORITY.
MY AUTHORITY IS ONLY AS A PARTNER WITH MR. RUST ON, IT'S ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
IF WE WANT TO EXAMINE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, WE CAN DO IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS OR ON A COMPREHENSIVE BASIS, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO AS WELL.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY YET.
BUT MR. RUST OWNS THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES, JOE.
SO YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE ALREADY BROUGHT UP OTHER IDEAS FOR OTHER CORRECT PARTS OF THE PROPERTY.
WHY ARE WE NOT THEN JUST PURSUING AN ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND DEVELOPED THE ENTIRE SITE? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA COME FOR IID, BUT, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA COME FOR A VARIANCE ON THIS ONE, AND THEN ON THE NEXT ONE, AND THEN ON THE NEXT ONE, DON'T SAY YOU WON'T.
SO WHY NOT JUST DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME AS AS, AS OPPOSED TO WELL, I CAN, I CAN SAY THAT CLEARLY.
UM, THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GONNA BE DETERMINED COMMERCIALLY BY THE INTEREST OF THE, THE TENANT GROUP THAT IS INTERESTED IN, IN DEVELOPING AND, AND PUTTING THE CAPITAL INTO THE TRANSACTION.
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YOU SAID COMMERCIALLY, COMMERCIALLY, BY THE WAY, NOT EDUCATIONALLY.SO AGAIN, WHY NOT, WHY CAN'T THIS SLIDE BACK TO THE SAME ADJACENT LOT TO THE, UH, REHAB FACILITY THAT WAS MENTIONED WITH THEIR GLAZING? WELL, I'M SORRY.
THE HOSPITAL WAS, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
I, I, I'M, AND I'M RESPECTFULLY HOPING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION BE AROUND THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS OWN, ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE BALANCE OF HIS LAND WITH HIS CONSENT.
SORRY, I'M AN ATTORNEY, SO IT'S COMING ACROSS, BUT I, MY AUTHORITY IS ONLY TO, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PARCEL AND THIS APPLICATION AT THIS TIME.
UNLESS, UNLESS HE WANTS TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT ABOUT A POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE BALANCE OF HIS LOANS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT GOING FURTHER BACK IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE U UTILITIES ARE THERE.
THE ROADWAY IS THERE, THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING IT FROM NOT GOING THERE OTHER THAN THERE'S A DESIRE TO ASK FOR TWO VARIANCES, UM, ON THIS PAD SITE.
SO I ONLY OWN TWO ACRES BEHIND THAT, AND THE REST OF IT'S BEEN SOLD TO A, UH, MINI WAREHOUSE UNIT.
I HAVE THE, THE PIECES OVER THAT FRONT 2 87 OVER HERE.
SO THEN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED, THAT CAN'T EVEN HAPPEN ANYWAYS ON THE FLAMES FOR THE ONES THAT HE STILL OWNS.
THE LOTS I DON'T HAVE, I HAVE A LIMITED JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS EDUCATIONAL FACILITY.
AND ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? WE WILL, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING FOR COUNCIL.
UM, WE'RE NOT AFFORDED MANY TOOLS ANYMORE FROM THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN.
SO FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO EVEN GET BROUGHT TO US, IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE RARE.
UM, YES, THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A, A MONUMENT SIGN AND GLAZING, BUT WE'RE ONLY AFFORDED A FEW OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
SO IF YOU JUST FOCUS ON IT AS THIS IS JUST FOR GLAZING, OR THIS IS JUST FOR THE SIGNAGE NOW? IT'S ONE OF OUR LAST TOOLS.
UM, I THINK WE'RE CHARGED WITH THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE.
UH, THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE WAS USED WITH UNFORTUNATELY, UH, ON MR. RUSS'S LAND, UH, FOR THE, UM, DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH ON THE CORNER THAT WOULDN'T HAVE GENERATED A SINGLE DIME OF SALES TAX.
UM, THAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION THAT WAS, THAT WAS USED THEN WAS THAT IT WASN'T THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING LEGALLY THAT WE CAN'T SAY NO TO, AND WE CAN JUST SAY NO TO THE, THAT WE DON'T APPROVE OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST, UM, AND THEY CAN DO IT WHAT THEY MAY, THEY COULD STILL GO BUILD IT TO WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THEM.
UM, BUT THAT PUTS THE BALL BACK IN THEIR COURT.
IF WE FOREGO THIS, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TOOLS LEFT.
SO I THINK THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF IS ONE THAT'S NEEDED AS MM-HMM
MR. RUST EXPLAINED ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING IN AND, AND, UH, EDUCATIONAL, UH, UM, ASPECTS OF IT ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO I'M COMING DOWN TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THAT Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO DIE ON THE HEEL ON THE HILL FOR THIS GLAZING ISSUE.
THERE'S, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CONCERNS AND, AND I AGREE WITH, UH, MR. SMITH AS WELL.
THE, THE BEST USE WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FINANCIALLY OR, OR, OR TENANT MIX, WHATEVER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S, IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY FOR, UH, VERY YOUNG CHILDREN.
YOU KNOW, GET THEM STARTED EARLY ON IN, IN A QUALITY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.
SO I GUESS VERY LONG QUESTION.
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UM, IS THERE NO BUDGING ON THIS GLAZING ISSUE? IF, IF, I GUESS WHAT I'D SAY TO YOUR POINT IS THAT THE BUDGING POINT IS LIKE BASICALLY IF WE MEET THE GLAZING REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? IT ESSENTIALLY ASSESS YOU, YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MOMENT FRAMES AND YOU HAVE TO SWITCH FROM A STICK BELT TO A STEEL BELT, AND IT MAKES THE PROJECT BASICALLY UNVIABLE.SO WE OWN THE LAND, WE PERMITTED IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, PRETTY DARN HARD TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER PARCEL AT THIS POINT.
BUT, UM, IF I'M NOT LOOKING TO DIE ON THE HILL, BUT I THINK WE CAN BUILD A FIRST CLASS FACILITY THAT WILL GENERATE QUITE A BIT OF TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND HAVE, HAVE A, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LOOKING BUILDING AND IT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THE TYPE OF USERS FOR THESE PARENTS THAT I THINK WILL BE USEFUL AND STILL ADDITIVE TO THE GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE USE.
AND I, I DON'T WANT TO TECHNICALLY GET INTO THE NATURE OF GENERAL RETAIL.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS CLEARLY.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE, IT'S, IT'S THAT AMOUNT OF GLAZING IS SORT OF INCONSISTENT WITH THIS USE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, THAT THERE'S ASPECTS OF IT.
IF THERE ARE, IF YOU CHANGE IT MM-HMM
THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT IMPRACTICAL TO BUILD IT.
YEAH, IT WOULD, YOU WOULD BUILD IT, WHICH IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT.
AND I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, WOULD THE PROJECT MOVE FORWARD WITH 30% GLAZING? PROBABLY IT WOULD BE DESTRUCTIVE TO THE ECONOMICS AND ESSENTIALLY WOULD CAST A, UH, IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AT LEAST OF THE LOTS THAT HE OWNS, THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH GO AS TO WHETHER NEW CAPITAL SHOULD GO, THESE TYPES OF TRANSACTIONS AND TAKE, GO FROM A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OF PROPERTY TAXES TO MUCH HIGHER.
OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE A TOUGH GO.
WHAT'S THAT? ENFORCING OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE A TOUGH GO.
WELL, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THE, THE NATURE OF THE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE ZONING SPANS ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES AND DOES NOT SEGMENT BETWEEN RETAIL, EDUCATIONAL, AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES LIKE OFFICE AND AMBULATORY MEDICAL.
BUT YOU CHOSE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
I I, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF ITS NATURE.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU IS THAT GLAZING REQUIREMENT IS A BROAD UMBRELLA AND COULD BE SEGMENTED, BUT YOU CHOSE THE LAND THAT WAS THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHY ALL FROM PG SO FAR.
P Z'S A BOARD OF RECOMMENDATION.
I WAS JUST ADDRESSING THAT THEY GOT THAT APPROVAL HAS BEEN THROUGH P AND Z, BUT THAT'S A BOARD OF RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITY OF IT 100%.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE POWER LIES, FOR SURE.
LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF I COULD.
[8. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-83-2026 ]
ITEM IS NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 83 20 26.MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO DENY ZDC 83 DASH 2026.
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UNIFIED LOT SIGN AND ASSOCIATED DEVIATIONS FOR A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER.
THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION BY COUNSEL? I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT THIS TO DIE.
I, AND I DON'T, BUT I, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL PLEAD IGNORANCE ON NOT UNDERSTANDING THE FINANCIAL, UH, DOWNSIDE TO BEING AT WHAT IS,
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WHAT IS THE GLAZING? I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE LOT SIGN AND THEN DENY THE DEVIATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE THE GLAZING AND IF THEY CAN MAKE THE GLAZING WORK TO MAKE IT WORK.I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHAT IS, THAT'S JUST ENFORCING THE MINIMUM.
WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? I GOT IT.
DO ANOTHER, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? I MEAN, I'LL TRY IT, I GUESS.
MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UNIFIED LOT SIGN ASSOCIATED WITH ZDC 83 DASH 2026 AND DENY ASSOCIATED DEVIATIONS FOR ZDC 83 DASH 2026 FOR A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN I ASK? GO AHEAD, TERRY.
SO TERRY, IF THAT, IF THAT TAKES CARE OF THE LOT SIZE SIGN, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT DO ABOUT THE BUILDING? THEY HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM.
THEY HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM GLAZING REQUIREMENTS OF 30%.
BUT IF THEY, IF THEY CHOSE TO MEET THAT, THEN THE PROJECT WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
IF, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO THEM, BUT YES.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 10, A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DEREK MCCALL.
[9. Consider Development Agreement for ZDC-83-2026 ]
GO TO NUMBER NINE.THE CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ZDC 83 20 26.
MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ZDC 83 DASH 2026 WITH THE CHANGES JUST APPROVED, UM, AND DENIED, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE UNIFIED LOT SIGN AND THE DENIAL OF THE ASSOCIATED DEVIATIONS FOR THE CHILD DAYCARE CENTER.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[10. Public Hearing on a request by Derek McCall, Tanner Consulting, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Drive-Thru Establishment use, including requested deviations from base site plan, parking, and landscape plan regulations for a restaurant with a drive-thru within a Planned Development-General Retail (PD-GR) zoning district located at 504 N Hwy 77 (Property ID: 172327) Owner: Mark Godwin, Retail Buildings, INC (ZDC-60- 2026) ]
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DEREK MCCALL.TANNER CONSULTING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT USE, INCLUDING REQUESTED DEVIATIONS FROM BASE SITE PLAN, PARKING AND LANDSCAPE PLAN REGULATIONS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH WITHIN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT.
LOCATED AT 5 0 4 NORTH HIGHWAY 77 7.
OWNER IS MARK GOODWIN RETAIL BUILDINGS.
THIS PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 19.
IT'S ONE OF OUR OLDER PDS, UH, WITH LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS IS FOR THE BRAHMS RESTAURANT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A SECOND DRIVE THROUGH, UM, FOR THIS REQUEST DUE TO THAT SECOND DRIVE-THROUGH AND SUP IS REQUIRED.
UM, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WHEN WE WORKED WITH BRAHMS, UM, WE WORKED ON MAKING, TRYING TO GET THEM TO BECOME IN APPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
WHEN BRAHM WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AND DESIGNED, THEY WERE MEETING THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS BACK WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AND DESIGNED, UM, BACK IN 1991.
UM, THE NEW DRIVE THROUGH WOOD TRIGGER THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, DUE TO VARIOUS EASEMENTS, UM, THE LAYOUT OF WHERE THE ROAD IS, ET CETERA, UH, THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN MAKE THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WORK, UM, WITHOUT IT BEING LOCATED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, WITHOUT TEARING UP SOME OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY, UM, AND PULLING OUT SOME OF THOSE EASEMENTS.
UM, WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION, THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST WITH THE, UM, ACCOMPANYING CONDITIONS.
UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE DID MOUNT, UH, NOTICE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ZERO CAME BACK IN FAVOR ZERO CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
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IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GOOD EVENING.HOW YOU DOING? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YEAH, I'M DEREK MCCALL WITH TANNER CONSULTING.
UH, WE'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING LANDSCAPE AR ARCHITECTURE FIRM ON THE PROJECT, UM, AT 53 23 SOUTH LEWIS AVENUE IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING THIS.
UH, AS YOU GUYS MENTIONED, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY INSTALLED A LONG TIME AGO, I THINK BACK IN 91, UH, UNDER A DIFFERENT, UH, CODE REQUIREMENT.
AND, UH, WE DID COME BACK AFTER THIS, UH, THE LAST B AND Z MEETING, AND WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LANDSCAPE.
UH, WE ADDED A FEW MORE TREES TO THE PLANTING.
WE ALSO HAD ONE NEIGHBOR THAT HAD SOME, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
AND WE DID TALK TO BRAHMS AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO TAKE OFF SOME OF THE CUTOFF OR THE, THE NON CUTOFF LIGHTS, THE WALL PACKS, MAKE THOSE FULL CUTOFF LIGHTS.
AND, UM, WE ALSO ADDED SOME MORE TREES TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO BLOCK SOME OF THOSE LIGHTS FROM THEIR HOUSE.
SO, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING THIS.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? AND IF WE COULD GET THE MOTION, THIS IS THE, THE REVISED SITE PLAN THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING WITH THOSE CHANGES THAT HE WAS MENTIONING.
UM, BY THE TIME WE POST THE PACKET, WE HADN'T RECEIVED THIS YET.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO BE APPROVED AS PART OF THE CONDITION.
I WILL CLO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[11. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-60-2026 ]
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 11.CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 60 20 26.
HEY, TRU, WHEN, WHEN WERE THOSE, UH, REVISED SITE PLANS SUBMITTED? UH, THEY WERE SUBMITTED LAST WEEK.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS WEDNESDAY.
IT, SO IT WAS TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY WAS THE DAY AFTER WE PUBLISHED.
WE GOT THE AGENDA PACKET READY TO GO TO PUBLISH.
UM, SO ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH? THAT WAS WEDNESDAY.
THEN I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT.
I WOULD JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.
YEAH, IT WAS, UH, THE DAY AFTER THE P AND Z, TWO DAYS AFTER, TWO DAYS AFTER, OR NO ONE, IT WAS THE NEXT DAY.
I'LL JUST PLAY IT SAFE AND GO ON.
OR BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, THEN YEAH, THIS WENT TO P AND Z JUST LAST WEEK.
HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT GOING WITH THE MOST RECENTLY SUBMITTED SITE PLAN? I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
ARE WE, ARE WE SAFE WITH THAT ONE? I THINK SO.
YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT ANYTHING TODAY, DID YOU?
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 60 DASH 2026 WITH THE REVISED SITE PLAN MOST RECENTLY SUBMITTED TO STAFF A SPECIFIC, USE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR DRIVE THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[12. Public Hearing on a request by Kevin McIntosh, Bomac Wax Investments, LLC, to amend a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Unified Lot Sign use and providing for deviations from the base sign regulations for a multi-tenant shopping center within a Planned Development42-Commercial (PD-42-C) zoning district located at the 100 block of Bessie Coleman Blvd (Property ID: 223131) Owner: Bomac Wax Investments, LLC (ZDC-117-2026)]
IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY KEVIN MCINTOSH, BOMAC WAX INVESTMENTS LLC TO AMEND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UNIFIED LOT SIGN USE AND PROVIDING FOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE BASE SIGN REGULATIONS FOR A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER WITHIN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 42 COMMERCIAL PD 42 C ZONING DISTRICT, LOCATED AT THE 100 BLOCK OF BESSIE COLEMAN BOULEVARD, TRENTON.ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA SUM THIS UP REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS BASICALLY TO ALLOW THEIR BUILDINGS, THEIR INTERNAL BUILDINGS TO HAVE SIGNAGE SHOWN ON THE, ON THE INTERNAL ROADS, UH, WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, MOST OF OUR PDS ALLOW FOR THAT.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE BASE ZONING, UH, THIS PD DIDN'T HAVE LANGUAGE PERTAINING TO SIGNAGE.
SO IT DID REFLECT BACK ON OUR BASE ZONING.
THEY WOULD, THE WAY IT'S LITERALLY INTERPRETED, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED ONLY SIGNAGE IF IT, UH, WAS BUDDING A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO IT LIMIT ANY SIGNAGE FOR THOSE INTERNAL ROADS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY TO THE NORTH, UH, WE'RE RAISING CANES IS, UM, THEY HAVE SIGNAGE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
FOR THOSE INTERNAL ROADS TO VIEW, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT THESE SAME EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS ALL THROUGHOUT WAXAHATCHEE, UM, HAVE, UM, THE PROPOSED WOULD JUST, IT LIMITS, IT ACTUALLY SPECIFIES
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WHICH BUILDINGS, HOW MANY SIGNS FOR EACH ONE.UH, THERE'S VARIOUS REGULATIONS, UH, PER THAT, WHAT THE SIZE CAN BE, WHICH WOULD BE STILL CONSISTENT WITH OUR SIGN REGULATIONS.
UM, THIS, WHEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, UH, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
WE DO FEEL THIS IS WITHIN THE SPARE OF THE ORDINANCE OF OUR SIGNED REGULATIONS.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, RYAN MCINTOSH, 40 47 FA HOLLOW DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ITEM NUMBER
[13. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-117-2026 ]
13.CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 1 17 20 26.
COUNSEL, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 1 1 7 DASH 2026.
A UNIFIED LOT SIGNED FOR THE PLAZA AT BESSIE COLEMAN.
SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT, DO A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
WELL, I'M OVER, I'M STILL OVER HERE AT THE KITTY TABLE.
[14. Public Hearing on a request by Patrick McGee, HighPark Capital, LLC for a Zoning Change from a Commercial (C) zoning district to a Planned Development-Multi-Family-2 (PD-MF-2) zoning district, located at 1761 N US Highway 77 (Property ID 186874) – Owner(s): Ferris Avenue Baptist Church DBA The Avenue (ZDC-54-2026) ]
14 A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY PATRICK MCGEE, HY HY PARK, CAPITAL LLC FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM A COMMERCIAL C ZONING DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY TWO PD DMF TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 1761 NORTH US HIGHWAY 77.OWNER IS FARRIS AVENUE BAPTIST CHURCH, DBA, THE AVENUE, TRENTON.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SINCE THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, UH, QUITE A BIT HAS BEEN GOING ON, UM, WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THEMSELVES.
UH, THEY DID, UH, WE DID DISCUSS WITH THEM THE DETACHED GARAGES AND THEY'RE REDUCING THOSE GARAGES, UH, DETACHED GARAGES BY 36 TO ALLOW THEM FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
UM, THAT'S A CONDITION WITHIN THE REPORT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, ALSO SINCE THEN, UM, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT NOW, IS WE DISCUSSED THE BRIDGE, THE ROAD GOING THROUGHOUT, UM, AND, AND THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT ROAD.
UM, STAFF DID GO AHEAD AND, UM, DO, WE DID SOME TESTING ALONG, ALONG THIS ROAD TO CHECK THE, UH, CHECK THE STATUS OF THIS ROAD AND THE BASE OF IT.
UM, SAP DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BASE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, UM, THE BRIDGE.
WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REGARDING THAT.
WE DID RECEIVE THE PLANS, UM, THE ENGINEERING PLANS FOR THE BRIDGE AND FOR THE ROAD THAT WERE PROVIDED.
UM, BACK IN THE DAY, UM, WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AVENUE APARTMENTS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, IF IT'S OKAY, I'M GONNA SKIP TO THE NEXT ITEM TO KIND OF SHOW, UM, SHOW THE MEMO WITH CONDITIONS.
UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, CONDITIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ONCE AGAIN, WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP DURING THE ZONING IS 'CAUSE I THINK THEY DO RELATE ONE WITH ANOTHER, UM, CITY STAFF CONDITIONS.
WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, THAT WE ADD THE AVENUE CHURCH TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
LAST MEETING, UM, RIGHT NOW THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE LEGALITIES OF EVERYTHING.
UM, SO WE ADDED THESE CONDITIONS TO THIS SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, ADD APPLICABLE INFORMATION AT THE AVENUE CHURCH, ADDING THE EXHIBITS, SHOWING THE ROADS, UM, THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY WALKS HATCHIE, UM, AND ALL NECESSARY EXHIBITS TO THE AGREEMENT SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PRIVATE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UM, HYDE PARK, UM, DID REQUEST TO ADD CONDITIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ SOME OF THOSE.
WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING UP TO 150,000 FOR THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE POSITION FOR THE PORTION OF MARKETPLACE BOULEVARD.
UM, ANY COST EXCEEDING $150,000, UH, WOULD, WOULD, UH, TO IMPROVE THAT ROAD OR BRIDGE WOULD BE PAID BY THE CITY AND NOT FALL BACK ON HYDE PARK.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S CONDITION THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT, UM, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THAT THE CHURCH WILL DEDICATE THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND BRIDGE TO THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER PROVISIONS IN HERE, SUCH AS,
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UH, A CLAUSE IN HERE THAT IF THAT MONEY $150,000 FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT ROAD AND BRIDGE ISN'T SPENT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, THAT WOULD GO BACK TO HYDE PARK, WHICH ARE THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.UM, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT TIME BE EXTENDED A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO ALLOW US, UM, AN APPORTION AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO CORRECTLY USE IT, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF LOOKING AND REALLY EVALUATING, UM, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THAT ROAD AND BRIDGE ONCE THE, THE ROAD HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY BLOCKS.
UM, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THE 36 MONTHS OR 48 MONTHS THOUGH, WE'D RECOMMEND 36 48 MONTHS.
THANK YOU, TRENTON, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GOOD EVENING.
I'M AT 45 14 TRAVIS STREET IN DALLAS.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH EXTENDING THE TIMEFRAME? SORRY? DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH EXTENDING THE TIMEFRAME, UH, TO USE THE FUNDS TO GIVE US TIME TO 42 MONTHS? NO, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT.
WE WERE JUST ADVISED TO PUT SOME SORT OF A SHOT CLOCK ON IT.
AND YOU USE THE SHOT, LIKE ACTUAL NUMBER ON THE SHOT CLOCK.
SO I CAN'T FAULT YOU FOR THAT.
WHAT'S THE NAME? THE NEW NAME OF THE ROAD? INSPIRATION TRAIL? UH, YES, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DO.
WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT.
UH, YOU, YOU CAN, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A PART, WE COULD ADD IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, BUT THERE'S, RIGHT NOW, I I I THINK WE'D DO IT AS PART OF THE PLAT.
WHEN THEY DEDICATE THE ROAD, THAT'S WHEN WE'D ADD IT TO THE, DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE IT? TERRY, DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT? THAT'S RENAMING A ROADWAY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND TR WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT WOULD BE A PLA TIME AND NOT, YEAH, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS IN QUESTION.
SO THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE, COMING UP HERE WOULD BE RENAMED.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL CITY STREET NAME.
AND SO WHEN THIS IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY, EITHER THROUGH A PLAT OR THROUGH A SEPARATE INSTRUMENT, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD ASSIGN IT THE NAME INSPIRATIONAL TRIAL.
I'D RATHER ASSIGN IT RIGHT NOW IF WE CAN.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT, TERRY? UM, I THINK AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE, WE PROBABLY NEED A CONDITION AT A CONDITION TO THE, TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT STREET TO BE NAMED WHAT? INSPIRATION? INSPIRATIONAL TRAIL.
IS THAT, IS THAT ROAD NOT ALREADY NORTHTOWN? UM, AND I, I THOUGHT WAS TALKING, ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT MARKETPLACE IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
MARKETPLACE RUNS, UH, THE ONE THAT KIND OF RUNS EAST WEST.
KEEP NORTHTOWN LIKE IT IS AND CHANGE MARKETPLACE TO INSPIRATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COUNSEL? NO, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM UM, THE AVENUE HERE.
CORRECT? YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YEP.
MARK MILLER, SIX 40 GROVE CREEK ROAD, WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT? YES.
I THINK IT INSPIRATION TRAIL, I THINK WAS THE NAME THAT WE HAD DECIDED ON.
THERE'S TWO LETTERS THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
SO INSPIRATION TRAIL, YOU RIGHT THAT ONE I SCRATCH UP.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD WITH, WITH EVERYTHING.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO ITEM 15.
[15. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-54-2026 ]
CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 54 20 26.MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 54 20 26.
A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY TO SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND TO INCLUDE, UH, THE RENAMING OF MARKETPLACE BOULEVARD TO INSPIRATION TRAIL AND EXTENDING THE TIMEFRAME, UH, TO USE THE FUNDS CONTRIBUTED BY HIGH POINT FROM 24 MONTHS TO 42 MONTHS AND
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AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[16. Consider Development Agreement for ZDC-54-2026 ]
CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ZDC 54 20 26 COUNSEL, MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ZDC 54 DASH 2026.I'M GONNA TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT AND SAY WITH THE A FOUR MENTIONED CHANGES.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[17. Consider professional Services Agreement for the Peter Street Reconstruction Project in the amount of $337,000]
TO ITEM NUMBER 17.CONSIDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE PETER STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 337,000.
JAMES MAYOR COUNSEL, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UH, PETER STREET IS PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WE HAD A BUDGET OF, UH, $300,000.
UH, WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY TO, UH, RECONSTRUCT PETER STREET FROM BASICALLY THE CONCRETE PORTION RIGHT THERE BY BOERS AND HONEY TO, UH, GRAHAM STREET.
BUT ALSO WE WANT TO ADD THROUGH REPLACEMENT PANELS BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO WYATT STREET.
AND SO WE NEGOTIATED THIS, UH, PROJECT WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
WE GOT AS LOW AS WE COULD, UH, BUT HOWEVER, WE HAD TO ADD A WATER LINE, A REPLACEMENT IN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE REASON FOR THE ADDITIONAL $37,000 WE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT USING THE SAVINGS FROM PENSACOLA PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE ADDITIONAL FEES WE NEED RIGHT HERE.
SO THE TOTAL WILL BE THREE HUNDRED THIRTY THREE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY $7,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE MAREEN COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS? I'M JUST CONFIRMING 'CAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT THE LAST TIME CASE ANYONE HEARD THAT AND ONCE WE, THAT IT WAS PAID ATTENTION TO I GUESS.
BUT, UM, THIS, THIS WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THERE, THERE IS A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, DRAINAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH RIGHT HERE.
AND SO, UH, AND WE ALREADY DID WORK WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTIES OUT THERE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT DRAINAGE.
AND WILL PRI PRIMARILY BE THE DRAINAGE ON THE ALREADY DEVELOPED SIDE, CORRECT.
TO KEEP THE WATER OFF THE ROAD SO WE DON'T JUST MAKE A INVESTMENT FOR NO REASON.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LJA ENGINEERING INCORPORATED FOR THE PETER STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 337,000, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[18. Consider approving proposal for 216 N. College ]
IS NUMBER 18.CONSIDER APPROVING A PROPOSAL FOR TWO 16 NORTH COLLEGE, CASSANDRA.
SO AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT PROPOSALS THAT CAME FORWARD.
OH, WITH OUR EXERCISE OF PUTTING OUT THE, THE, UH, NOTICE FOR THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, UH, GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE, UH, UH, SITE VISITS TO THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING.
UH, ONE OF THEM WAS FOR THE HEART SYSTEMS, ONE WAS FOR, UM, THE, UM, CALEB BATES.
ONE WAS FOR, UM, UM, PAUL CALWELL, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR SPARROW ENTERPRISES, WHICH WAS THE, UM, UM, SORRY, ESCAPES MY BRAIN AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK IT WAS, WAS IT TREVOR? I'M RIGHT HERE.
HEY, WHAT'S UP
UM, BUT AT ANY RATE, THEY ARE HERE TO A ANSWER.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
Y'ALL WERE GIVEN THEIR FULL PROPOSALS AT THE WORKSHOP.
UM, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, AS A, YOU KNOW, AS REFERENCED IN OUR MEMO, THIS PROJECT, UH, THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS VALUED A LITTLE UNDER, UH, $2 MILLION.
ONCE IT IS FULLY RENOVATED AND, UM, EVERYTHING IS PUT TO PUT TO GOOD USE, WE SHOULD SEE THAT NUMBER INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT ONLY FOR THE ADVIL LAUREN, BUT ALSO FOR THE CONTENTS.
AND THEN SUBJECT TO, UH, SALES TAX AS WELL.
DEPENDING ON THE USE ON SOME OF THEM.
UM, WE HAD ONE THAT HAS, UH, A THAT
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THEY WILL BE THE END USER.UH, THE OTHERS ARE PLANNING TO HAVE FUTURE TENANTS TO BE DETERMINED.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS.
NOW, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE, UH, APPLICANTS, THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER.
THOSE ARE ALL FOUR APPLICANTS HERE.
HE SAID HE WAS COMING, BUT I'M NOT SEEING HIM.
SO COUNSEL, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF CASSANDRA? NO, NO MA'AM.
UM, DID ALL OF COUNSEL HEAR ALL OF THE, UH, PROPOSALS? DO Y'ALL NEED TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THEM AGAIN? ANY REFRESHER MATERIAL? ANYTHING? MADAM MAYOR, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS GOOD.
THAT I'LL GO THROUGH BASED UPON THE PROPOSALS.
I WAS GONNA CALL YOU TRENTON, BUT I HAVE HIM RIGHT HERE.
UM, ON THE TIMEFRAME FOR YOUR PROJECT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT TWO AS PROPOSED FOR TWO YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, THAT WAS TILL WHEN WE HAD A, WHEN WE THOUGHT WE COULD HAVE A TENANT IN WORST CASE SCENARIO ON OUR PROPOSAL, WE HAD A QUICK CLOSE.
WE CAN CLOSE BASICALLY AS SOON AS THE CITY'S READY.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE, HAVE THE CLOSE, YOU START WORKING ON IT, BUT IT WOULD BE THE SIGN.
GET THE TENANT TO SIGN OFF AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THERE.
SO WE HAD A DEVELOPER LED APPROACH WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE SIX MONTHS TO REALLY DO THE ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO HIRE AN ARCHITECT, GET THE ENGINEERING PLANS.
I THINK THAT WOULD TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
AND THEN, SO I DON'T THINK REALISTICALLY, UM, ANYONE COULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD PERMIT IN HAND FOR EIGHT, NINE MONTHS.
AND THEN I THINK CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE ALL OF A YEAR.
UM, QUESTION FOR HEART SYSTEMS. DO YOU QUESTION? YES, SIR.
AND YOUR ADDRESS? UH, 5 81 WEST STIPULA LANE, MANSFIELD, TEXAS.
UM, AS IT RELATES TO THIS, I KNOW THAT IN THE PROPOSAL DOCUMENTATION THERE WAS SOME REQUESTS FOR SALES TAX INCENTIVES AND GRANTS AND THE LIKE.
IS THAT STILL SCOPE? I DID NOT REQUEST SALES TAX INCENTIVES.
'CAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING ON WHAT WE WERE NO, I ONLY REQUEST, AND IT WOULD REALLY DEPEND.
I, I DID REQUEST THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE, UH, ADVANTAGE OF ANY GRANTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTORATION OF THE HISTORIC FACADE.
AND SO THOSE WOULD ONLY BE AVAILABLE IF WE TOOK THAT APPROACH.
UM, AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE US WORKING DIRECTLY WITH SANDY TO COME UP WITH WHAT THAT FACADE SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
UH, THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY, THE WAY THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THIS WILL BE THROUGH A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT.
SO THAT MAY BE WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION CAME IN WITH THAT.
UH, THREE 80 AGREEMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, CAN, ARE VERY, UM, THERE'S A GAMUT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN USE FOR A CHAPTER THREE 80, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE SALES TAX, ONE OF THOSE BEING THE TRANSFERENCE OF PROPERTY.
SO THAT MAY BE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, THE, UH, GENTLEMAN FOR THE HEART SYSTEM, COULD YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? CAN YOU KINDA GO MORE IN DETAIL ON THE TIMEFRAME THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE LOOKING AT IF YOU WELL, WE'RE PREPARED TO CLOSE.
WE'D ACTUALLY, IF THE CITY APPROVES THE PROPOSAL, WE'D LIKE TO CLOSE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEGAN WORKING ON PLANS.
WE'VE ALREADY, WE HAVE A ARCHITECT THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH ALL THE TIME.
IN ADDITION, WE'VE ALREADY CONTACTED THE ARCHITECTS THAT DID SOME OF THE, OR THE SET OF PLANS IN ENGINEERING ON THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROPOSAL.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD BE MORE THAN 90 DAYS AFTER CLOSE BEFORE WE'RE PREPARED TO SUBMIT FOR PERMITS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO HAVE, 'CAUSE WE WOULD BE THE END USER, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT OPEN, UM, BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.
SO LESS THAN A YEAR FROM, WELL, FROM TODAY TILL OPEN.
NOW, I KNOW THAT, UM, AND Y'ALL MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REVEAL IT AT THIS TIME, BUT I KNOW Y'ALL, UH, HAVE THE FISH CITY GRILLS.
ANY IDEA WHAT WOULD GO IN THIS BUILDING? UH, YEAH, WE, WE DO.
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AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CONCEPT, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, CONCEPTS IN MIND AS FAR AS THE DECOR AND ALL THAT.THE MENU, AGAIN, WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE CONCEPT, BUT WE ARE LEANING INTO THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS A, A RESTAURANT AND OR, AND RESTAURANT AND BAR, THIS KIND OF PROHIBITION THEMED, BUT WE DON'T WANNA LEAN TOO HEAVILY IN THE LIQUOR SIDE.
WE WANT IT TO BE A FAMILY FRIENDLY, FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT DOING ANYTHING IN THE BACK OR, OH, YES, MA'AM.
UM, WELL, FIR FOR FIRST, UH, THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE, THE SLOPE.
THERE'S A GREASE TRAP BACK THERE, SO THAT DOES LIMIT A LITTLE BIT.
YOU CAN'T EXTEND THAT GREASE TRAP UP AND LEVEL THAT OFF.
UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME COLUMNS OR PIERS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT WERE NOT PERMITTED THAT HAVE TO COME OUT.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY OUR FOCUS IS ON THE COLLEGE STREET SIDE.
WE WERE GONNA FENCE IN THE, THE REAR OR A PORTION OF IT, STILL LEAVE ROOM FOR DELIVERIES FROM THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT TAKING DELIVERIES FROM THE COLLEGE STREET SIDE.
UM, AND HAVE AN OUTDOOR VENUE POTENTIALLY FOR LIKE, LIVE MUSIC AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I MEAN, I, I JUST REALLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MEXICAN FOOD, NO TACOS OR NOT MEXICAN FOOD.
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.
WELL, YOU, THE FOOD WE DO IS, IS A LITTLE BIT UPSCALE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CURRENT MARKET, UM, I DON'T WANNA BE FINE DINING.
UM, WE WANNA BE A PLACE THAT THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR THE FAMILY TO GO.
ALSO, WE WANT IT TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO MORE THAN ONE TIME A MONTH.
UM, SO NO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE STEAK, BUT IT WOULD BE ELEVATED CUISINE.
UM, WE WILL PROBABLY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO IN FISH CITY, WHEREAS WE HAVE A SET MENU.
UM, BUT THAT WE HAVE, UH, AN EVOLVING MENU THROUGH CHALKBOARDS THAT CHANGES TWICE A DAY BASED ON WHAT'S IN SEASON.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT AS, AS HIGH OF A PRICE TAG AS SAY, LIKE A PRIME ONE 15.
UM, AND NOT, YEAH, NOT LIKE A BURGER JOINT OR OMAR'S TACOS OR ANY OF THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE AMERICAN CUISINE, NOT MEXICAN FOOD.
COUNSEL, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW UP IDEA.
ANTICIPATED FOR DAYS OF THE WEEK AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO OUR OTHER CONCEPTS.
UM, PROBABLY DEPENDING ON, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS A BRUNCH MENU.
SO 10:00 AM MIGHT BE WHEN WE WOULD OPEN.
TYPICALLY WE OPEN 11, UH, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
WE, WELL, NO, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY WE CLOSE AT 10.
TYPICALLY SUNDAY, WE CLOSE AT NINE.
UH, GIVEN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, WE MIGHT CONSIDER OPENING TILL OR STAYING OPEN TILL 11.
UH, BUT NO, NOT A 2:00 AM TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT, IF THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, AND I MEAN, 'CAUSE I HAVE MANY PEOPLE AND, AND YEAH.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE A BREAKFAST ESTABLISHMENT, POSSIBLY BRUNCH, UM, BUT, UH, NOT AN, NOT A ALL NIGHT TYPE OF DEAL, BUT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I DON'T.
WELL, SHE'S THE, SHE'S THE OWNER OF HEART SYSTEMS, SO YEAH.
I, I JUST, WILL YOU COME UP TO THE MIC? WELL, I'LL, WILL YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TOO? I'M SORRY.
VICKY HART AT 63 62 RED MANSFIELD ROAD IN BURLESON.
UH, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE, AND WE'VE DONE THIS FOR, I, I'VE DONE IT, I'VE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
SO, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED SOMETHING THAT WAS CALLED SNAPPY JACKS WHEN WE WERE 19.
SO
BUT WHAT I, I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE HAVE A BIG FAMILY, AND FAMILY IS IMPORTANT TO US.
SO WE'VE EVEN, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE PLANNED WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND, AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE LIKE EVEN A, A GAME AREA FOR THE KIDS SO PARENTS CAN COME, OR MAYBE THAT CAN BE USED FOR PARTIES FOR THE KIDS.
WE DON'T WANT TO, WHEN WE SAY IT'S A, IT'S A, WE'VE GOT A BAR IN IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UH, ONE THAT'S GONNA BE A HONKY TONK.
IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT FAMILIES CAN COME THERE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE AND EAT AND LET THEIR KIDS GO IN THE GAME ROOM AREA OR, OR WHATEVER WE'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT GOING.
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THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS EVERY KID THAT COMES IN GETS A SPORTS CARD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, 'CAUSE THEY CAME IN, YOU KNOW? MM-HMMUM, SO WE, I DO WANNA SAY THAT WE DO WANT IT TO BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT COMING TO.
ALRIGHT,
IT GIVES ME QUITE A BIT OF PAUSE TO THINK THAT THAT LARGE OF A BUILDING WILL BE JUST A RESTAURANT.
SO YOU, YOU GOTTA COME UP TO THE MIC AGAIN.
MOST OF OUR RESTAURANTS ARE ABOUT 4,500 SQUARE FEET TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, AND THEY TYPICALLY HAVE A, WELL, LIKE, IF YOU TAKE A FISH HERE, IT'S 4,500 SQUARE FEET, PLUS ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FOOT OF PATIO SPACE.
UM, SO I'M NOT AFRAID OF A LARGE RESTAURANT.
IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE COVID, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH LIKE SPACING REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT, UH, IF, IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR DESIGN IN THE FLOOR PLANS, I'M TAKING IN APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FEET OF THE FRONT TO MAKE IT A CONDITIONED PATIO OR A TEMPERED CLIMATE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS.
UH, ACTUALLY MY RESEARCH SAYS THAT IT WASN'T A CAR DEALERSHIP.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY A LIVERY THAT MIGRATED INTO CARS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT, UM, YEAH, TAKING ABOUT 2000, A LITTLE OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET OF THE COLLEGE STREET SIDE INTO THE BUILDING, OR MOVING THAT FRONT WALL IN TO ALLOW FOR A PATIO ON THE COLLEGE STREET SIDE.
SO NOW WE'RE CUTTING IT DOWN TO A LITTLE LESS THAN, UH, UM, 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CHANGES THAT I BELIEVE THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN THE KITCHEN, FOR EXAMPLE.
THOSE HOODS ARE NOT POSITIONED IN A WAY THAT'S CONDUCIVE FOR THE ACTUAL FLOW OF A KITCHEN.
UM, BUT NO, THE SIZE OF THE SPACE DOESN'T BOTHER ME A BIT.
WELL, FOR YOU, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, I'M NOT KNOCKING, I THINK FISH, I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING.
UH, WHEN I HEARD THAT Y'ALL WERE LOOKING AT THE OLD PHARMACY IN DOWNTOWN, I GOT PRETTY EXCITED.
UM, I HOPE THAT COULD HAPPEN AT SOME POINT.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A BETTER, THE, I'M SORRY, THE WHAT? THE PHARMACY ON THE CORNER OF, I HEARD THAT I GOT A CALL, WELL, ACTUALLY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST, I MEAN, HERE WAS OTHER PROJECTS, THE ONE THAT CALLED ABOUT IT.
BUT, BUT, UM, NO, I MEAN, AND IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IT JUST GIVES, MAYBE ITS NOT IN THIS LOCATION, IT JUST GIVES ME PAUSE THAT Y'ALL, AGAIN, I DON'T DOUBT YOUR BRAND AND YOUR WORK ETHIC, BUT THEN ARE WE GONNA BE IN THE SAME SPOT IF FOR SOME REASON? WELL, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THE PREVIOUS OWNERS IS CAPITAL, UM, AND EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND I DO REALIZE THAT THE PREVIOUS, THE PEOPLE THEY HAD EXPERIENCED WITH, UM, TUSCAN SLICE, I BELIEVE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS DIFFERENT.
I'M SPEAKING TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.
ARE WE THEN GONNA BE LEFT WITH A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT PLUS A 2000 SQUARE FOOT CONDITION PATIO THAT'S ONLY SET UP TO BE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH A 2000 SQUARE FOOT CONDITION PATIO.
TO, TO THAT POINT, MY FEELING ABOUT IT IS, IF YOU DIVIDE THE SPACE INTO PART RETAIL AND PART, UH, RESTAURANT, I DON'T THINK DOWNTOWN, MY PERSONAL OPINION NEEDS MORE RETAIL.
I MEAN, UM, AS FAR AS CUTTING IT DOWN IN SIZE, UM, YOU'RE STILL LEFT WITH A RESTAURANT NOW.
THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND MAYBE SOME OTHER PEOPLE IS US BEING THE END USER.
SECONDLY, THE, THE SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT TYPICALLY IS NOT GONNA BE VERY CONDUCIVE FOR A RESTAURANT IF THEY DON'T OWN THE REAL ESTATE.
SO GOING IN AS A TENANT, IT WOULD BE A NON-STARTER FOR US.
UH, 'CAUSE THE RENT FACTORS WOULD BE SO HIGH VERSUS OUR BUSINESS MODEL.
WE OWN THE REAL ESTATE AND WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL THE RENT.
SO IT MAKES IT PROFITABLE FOR THE RESTAURANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDRESSES ANY OF THAT, BUT THE SIZE OF THE RESTAURANT, MY FATHER'S PHILOSOPHY WAS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BUILD THEM SMALL AND TURN THE TABLES QUICK, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING ON A WAIT.
AND IF YOU GET, IF YOU GET MORE SEATS AND YOU CAN FILL THOSE SEATS, YOU'RE DOING A BETTER BUSINESS.
UM, AND GIVEN THE PARTICULAR LOCATION, GIVEN THAT IT HAS PARKING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE THINK IT WOULD BE A DRAW TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WE THINK WE CAN FILL THOSE SEATS.
UM, AND YEAH, I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN,
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BUT 6,000 SQUARE FEETS IS NOT THAT BIG OF A RESTAURANT.ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING? UH, MAY I SAY? SURE.
UH, ONE THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE'VE, WE'RE A FRANCHISEE FOR FISH CITY GRILL, AND THEY HAVE 22 RESTAURANTS AND THEIR BUSINESS MODEL WAS 2200 SQUARE FEET, NO MORE THAN 24, 28 OR 28.
AND WE CAME IN AND WE, WE HAVE THREE FISH CITIES AND NOW THEN WE'RE THE HIGHEST VOLUME STORES THAT THEY HAVE.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR, THEIR WHOLE CONCEPT AND THEY WERE IN BUSINESS FOR 15 YEARS BEFORE WE CAME ALONG.
AND THAT IS NOW THEY HAVE PATIOS.
NOW THEY, THEY REALLY, THEY CHERISH THAT NOW, THEN THEY WOULDN'T EVEN USED TO PUT PATIOS ON.
AND NOW THEN THAT'S A BIG DEAL THAT WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE HAVING THEIRS BUILT.
BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU, YOU CAN'T REALLY DO ENOUGH.
YOU CAN'T TURN ENOUGH SEATS IN A 2 20, 200 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT TO MAKE TODAY'S, UH, PROFIT.
I MEAN, YOU JUST CAN'T WITH, WITH THE COST OF, OF FOOD.
SO, I KNOW IT SOUNDS BIG, BUT YOU ALSO GOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF THAT'LL BE TAKEN UP.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE ALREADY SET UP.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A BIG KITCHEN ONE THAT CAN DO SEVERAL THINGS INSTEAD OF JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, COOK FISH OR WHATEVER.
WE'VE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME IDEAS FOR OTHER THINGS.
THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR MIND ON BIASES.
DO ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH HEART SYSTEMS INCORPORATED ON A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT TWO 16 NORTH COLLEGE STREET, SUBJECT TO FINAL CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AT A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR SPARROW NEST.
UH, JUST A MOMENT, BUT THERE'S A, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FINISH THIS FIRST MOTION ON THE TABLE.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
HEART IS FISH CITY GRILL, RIGHT.
FAMILY AND SPARROW IS, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA POSTPONE THAT MOTION SO HE CAN FINISH ASKING QUESTIONS.
YOU OKAY WITH, WITH YEAH, OF COURSE.
CAN WE, CAN WE POSTPONE THAT? SURE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK PART OF THE, PART OF THE PAUSE, UM, 'CAUSE I LIKE THE, I THE IDEA OF THE CONCEPT, UM, AND THAT IT'S AGAIN, SAME, SAME.
WE DON'T HAVE TO QUESTION THAT.
UM, THE TIMEFRAME THOUGH, UM, JUST HEARD, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND HERE.
TIMEFRAME, UH, WITH WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IS, UH, TWO YEARS AFTER NEGOTIATION, CLO NEGOTIATIONS, CLOSING AND PERMITTING.
CAN YOU JUST KIND OF ELABORATE ON, ON THAT, UM, AS FAR AS, IS THAT TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU BEGIN SUBMITTING FOR PERMITS? IS THAT TWO YEARS TO OPENING? UH, IS, WHAT IS THAT TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME? UM, I THOUGHT TWO YEAR ON OUR SUBMITTAL, TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME IS A SOLID CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON HAVING A TENANT IN THE BUILDING.
AND WE HAD A DEVELOPER LED APPROACH.
WE WANTED TO HIRE A SPECIFIC ARCHITECT THAT WORKS ON RESTAURANTS.
UM, ONE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ENGAGED WITH JONES BAKER THAT SPECIALIZES IN RESTAURANT BUILD OUT.
SO WE THINK IT WOULD TAKE, LET'S SAY WE CLOSE NEXT MONTH.
I THINK IT TAKES, AND THIS IS BASED ON 20 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE AND BEING IN THE INDUSTRY MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE.
UM, I THINK IT'LL TAKE THREE MONTHS TO GET ARCHITECTURE PLANS DONE.
I THINK IT'LL TAKE ANOTHER THREE MONTHS TO GET ENGINEERING PLANS DONE.
UH, IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED ENGINEERING OUT THERE.
UM, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION I THINK WILL TAKE EVERY PART OF A YEAR.
UM, AND SO THAT'S A YEAR AND A HALF RIGHT THERE FOR A SHELL.
AND THEN TENANT FINISH OUT GIVES YOU ANOTHER SIX MONTH BUFFER TO OPEN.
AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT SIX MONTHS, THAT'S FOR THE RESTAURANT BUILD OUT, CORRECT? NOT THE ADDITIONAL THREE, FOUR, HOWEVER MANY SMALLER SPACES
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WERE KIND OF PLANNED ON THE, UH, FOR BOTH.SO, UM, WITH OUR APPROACH WE HAD A DEVELOPER LED APPROACH AND I, I THINK THAT REALLY HELPS THE CITY IN THINKING IN TERMS OF DECADES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF ONE CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN ANOTHER CONCEPT CAN COME IN.
AND IF YOU HAVE A PROPERLY BUILT SHELL, IT'S EASIER TO, UM, HAVE A NEW TENANT.
AND SO ON OUR PROPOSAL IN OUR FIRST, UM, GO AROUND, WE SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO HAVE A REALLY DESIGNED, DRIVEN SPACE AND HAVE A, UM, TENANT THAT'S SELECTED TO BE A UNIQUE RESTAURANT.
CAN WE PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF? WE HAVE START OVER? NO, WE HAD A MOTION.
YOU CAN CONTINUE THAT OF COURSE.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALRIGHT, UM, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER
[19. Consider a contract with Key Construction for the construction of the new Fire Station 1 located at 1475 Spur 394 for the Guaranteed Maximum Price of $10,789,111 ]
19.CONSIDER A CONTRACT WITH KEY CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FIRE STATION.
ONE LOCATED AT 1475 SPUR 3 94 FOR THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF 10,789,001 11.
CHIEF, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.
COUNSEL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION.
IT'S, UH, MUCH NEEDED IN A LOCATION THAT'S GONNA SERVE OUR CITIZENS WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
UH, FROM THE ONSET OF THIS PROJECT, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR, UM, STATION COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.
REALLY IDENTIFIED SOME MEMBERS FROM STATION FOUR AS WELL AS MEMBERS THAT ARE GONNA MOVE INTO STATION ONE IDENTIFIED MEMBERS FROM STATION FOUR.
BECAUSE THIS, UM, IS JUST, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
EXCUSE ME, TRYING NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE.
WE'RE, UH, USING A LOT OF THE THINGS WE LIKE FROM STATION FOUR AND INCLUDING THEM IN STATION ONE.
SO COMMITTEE WORKED REALLY CLOSE WITH RBDR, OUR ARCHITECT, AND, UH, REALLY FOCUSED ON SHRINKING DOWN SOME OF THE UNWANTED SQUARE FOOTAGE WE FOUND IN STATION FOUR AND CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD DESIGN.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
BE REMISS NOT TO THANK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR KINDLY DONATING, UH, OVER THREE ACRES SO WE CAN HAVE A LOCATION.
I'M GONNA HANG OUT FOR A WHILE.
YEAH, LIKE A WHOLE SECOND PAGE OF JUST FIRE.
DID COUNSEL ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH KEY CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FIRE STATION ONE LOCATED AT 1475 SPUR 3 94 FOR THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF $10,789,111 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AS LONG AS WE GET BUSINESS DONE.
[20. Consider acceptance of the FEMA Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Grant in the amount of $3,873,662.73 for the hiring and funding of 15 firefighters]
ITEM 20, CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE OF THE FEMA STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE.SAFER GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,873,662 AND 73 CENTS FOR THE HIRING AND FUNDING OF 15 FIREFIGHTERS.
CHIEF, I'M GOING TO TRY AND CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT, BUT THIS IS QUITE POSSIBLY ONE OF THE GREATEST DAYS OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, MODERN HISTORY.
SO AS YOU KNOW, BACK IN FEBRUARY WE SOUGHT A, UM, FEMA GRANT CALLED SAFER.
UM, HIRED A GRANT CONSULTANT TO HELP US GO AFTER THIS THING.
UH, REALIZED WE'D HAD SOME SHORTCOMINGS IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS BY NOT GOING AFTER ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS WE NEEDED FOR FOUR MAN STAFFING AT ONCE.
SO WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS THE VERY FIRST THING WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON.
UH, THE GRANT CONSULTANT WAS AMAZING, WALKED US THROUGH THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND THEN FOUND OUT ON SEPTEMBER 28TH THAT WE WERE AWARDED THE $3.8 MILLION FOR FOUR MAN STAFFING.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE JUST ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, NOT ONLY
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ADD PEOPLE TO FIRE TRUCKS, BUT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A STAFFING MODEL THAT ALLOWS WCEI FIRE RESCUE TO SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY DO THE JOB THIS COMMUNITY EXPECTS US TO DO.I KNOW AS, AS COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE, UH, Y'ALL LOOKING INTO TO GRANTS.
AND, UH, FUNDING, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THESE, UH, PERSONNEL NEEDS.
AND WITH OUR CITY GROWING, UH, THE WAY IT IS AND HAS AND WILL.
UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY UP, UH, WITH BEING ABLE TO, UH, PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THE WAY OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES TO BE.
OKAY, CHIEF, UH, WHAT WERE THOSE THREE FIREFIGHTERS? TOD OUT FOUR AT 8:16 PM AT JUST NOW.
JUST NOW AN UNAUTHORIZED BURN.
WHAT ABOUT THE THREE MORE? AT 8 25? I BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS A COMMERCIAL FIRE ALARM.
JUST SAYING TWO FIRES, NINE MINUTES APART.
WE HAD THREE GUYS GO ON EACH CALL.
AND THEY'LL DO IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE FEMA STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SAFER GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,873,662 AND 73 CENTS FOR THE HIRING AND FUNDING OF 15 FIREFIGHTERS FOR WAXAHATCHEE FIRE RESCUE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND FIRE CHIEF TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO ACCEPT THE AND ADMINISTER THE GRANT.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[21. Consider approval of supplemental appropriation from the General Fund unrestricted reserve in the amount of $1,274,481 for the acceptance of SAFER Grant]
IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FROM THE GENERAL FUND UNRESTRICTED RESERVE IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,274,481 FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SAFER GRANT CHIEF.UH, I KNOW THAT LOOKS LIKE A BIG NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT SO THE CITY HAS TO FRONT THE COST FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED LATER.
SO THAT ACTUAL IMPACT TO FISCAL YEAR 27 TO PROVE BUDGET IS $194,826.
SO IT LOOKS KIND OF SCARY SITTING UP THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT ONCE WE GET OUR REIMBURSEMENTS, IT'S A MUCH, MUCH MORE, UH, TOLERABLE NUMBER.
COUNSEL CHIEF, DID YOU SAY 1 194 8 26? YES, SIR.
ANY IDEA, UH, ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME THAT THAT COMPLETE TURNAROUND IS AS FAR AS HIRING THE INDIVIDUALS? NO, AS FAR AS FAR THE TIME, WE, WE HAVE TO PUT UP THE 1.2 TO THE TIME REIMBURSEMENT IT.
SO WE'LL FRONT THE, UH, MONEY FOR THE, I BELIEVE BY THE TIME WE GET THE INDIVIDUALS HIRED, IT WILL BE IN THE SECOND QUARTER.
SO WE WILL ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT AT THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER AND IT'S ALL IN ARREARS.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S NO, NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FROM THE GENERAL FUND UNRESTRICTED RESERVE IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,274,481 TO MULTIPLE GL ACCOUNTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SAFER GRANT.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[22. Consider proposed Ordinance for four-member staffing on fire apparatuses assigned to the structural fire emergency responses ]
IS CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR FOUR MEMBER STAFFING ON FIRE APPARATUSES ASSIGNED TO THE STRUCTURAL FIRE EMERGENCY RESPONSES CHIEF.ALL RIGHT, LAST ONE FROM ME, I PROMISE.
SO THIS IS THE, UM, ORDINANCE WE'D LIKE TO GO ALONG WITH THE STAFFING MODEL WHERE THE CITY'S GIVING US THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY FOUR MAN PERSONNEL ON ALL OUR FRONTLINE APPARATUS THAT RESPOND TO STRUCTURAL FIRES.
UM, THE CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ESTABLISH A SUSTAINABLE FOUR PERSON STAFFING MODEL WITH SUBSTANTIAL FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
THIS ISN'T SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE FIREFIGHTERS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE WAY WE DEPLOY EMERGENCY RESOURCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
EVERY DAY WE COME TO SERVE, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA FIND WHEN WE GET THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE A ROUTINE MEDICAL CALL OR SOMEONE TRAPPED IN A BURNING BUILDING.
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KNOW WHETHER THE FIRE WILL BE SMALL OR FULLY INVOLVED.WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL BE ONE EMERGENCY IN OUR CITY OR FOUR EMERGENCIES AT THE SAME TIME.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WHEN OUR CITIZENS CALL ON US, THEY EXPECT US TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THE JOB.
FOREPERSON STAFFING GIVES W HEI FIRE RESCUE THE PERSONNEL NECESSARY TO PERFORM CRITICAL TASKS SIMULTANEOUSLY, PROTECT OUR FIREFIGHTERS, IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE CAPABILITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, GIVE THE CITIZENS OF W HECHE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY DESERVE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT GIVING FIREFIGHTERS MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER IS ABOUT GIVING FIREFIGHTERS ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
FOREPERSON STAFFING IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE SAFETY, RESILIENCY AND FUTURE OF WAXAHATCHEE.
YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT WHEN IS THE LAST TIME MINIMUM STAFFING WAS VISITED? UH, FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE OVER THE, THE BUILDUP OF STATION TWO PRIOR TO 2012 AND THE BUILDUP FOR STATION FOUR PRIOR TO 2024, WE'VE REACHED FOUR MAN STAFFING, MINIMUM STAFFING.
HOWEVER, AS SOON AS THOSE STATIONS OPEN, WE'RE RIGHT BACK DOWN TO A THREE MAN MINIMUM.
UM, ANY SAFER GRANTS WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN USED TO OPEN UP NEW STATIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED A FOUR MAN MINIMUM STAFFING TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
CHIEF, I KNOW WE FOCUS ON FIRES HERE.
UM, AND FOUR, FOUR MAN ALLOWS FOUR IN THEORY TWO IN TWO OUT, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S REALLY TWO IN ONE OUT TO WATCH THE TWO IN AND ONE TO COORDINATE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S, YES SIR.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY THAT'S LITERALLY TELLING SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE TO PARK, WHERE THE FIRE ACTUALLY IS, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHILE ALSO HAVING EYEBALLS ON WHO'S INSIDE, RIGHT? YES SIR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST BENEFITS TO FOUR MAN STAFFING IS ACTUALLY ALLOWING OUR OFFICERS TO RUN THE SCENE, TO KEEP THE SCENE SAFE, THE CITIZENS SAFE, AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS SAFE IN A THREE MAN MODEL, MANY, MANY TIMES THAT OFFICER HAS TO GET INVOLVED IN TACTICAL LEVEL DECISIONS WHERE WE DON'T WANT 'EM, WE DON'T WANT 'EM DOWN THERE IN THE MINUTIAE.
WE WANT 'EM BACKED UP AWAY FROM IT.
MAKING THOSE BROAD, UH, CASTING, UH, DECISIONS TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
AND TO ADD TO THAT AND TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL FIRE RESPONSE SIDE, UM, WE DO KNOW THROUGH MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS THAT, UH, FIRE'S TYPICALLY THE FIRST ONE ON THE SCENE FOR ANY, UM, ANY MAJOR ACCIDENT, ANY ANY MEDICAL EMERGENCY.
UM, KNOWING THAT WE ARE, UH, THE CROSSROADS OF TEXAS AND WE HAVE THE HIGHWAYS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, BRING IN THE SALES TAX DOLLARS AND THOSE THINGS.
UM, FOUR MAN STAFFING ALSO BENEFITS THERE, CORRECT? UM, YES SIR.
UM, IT MIGHT NOT BE TOO INTO OUT, BUT IT'S, IF YOU HAVE TWO VEHICLES, YOU'VE GOT ONE AND ONE AND THEN ONE TRIED TO COORDINATE.
YOU BRING UP A COUPLE GOOD POINTS THERE.
ONE IS WE'RE ABLE TO SPLIT CREWS SAFELY.
WE NEVER WANT TO HAVE A ONE FIREFIGHTER ISOLATED BY HIMSELF.
SO WITH FOUR MAN STAFFING, WE CAN ACTUALLY SPLIT INTO TWO GROUPS OF TWO, UH, KEEPS THAT SAFE, KEEPS THAT REDUNDANCY OF CARE THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS SIMULTANEOUS TASK COMPLETION.
SO IF I'VE GOT THREE GUYS ON SCENE, I'M ONLY GETTING THREE THINGS DONE AT ONCE OR MAYBE ONLY TWO THINGS DONE AT ONCE.
'CAUSE THAT OFFICER'S STILL HAVING TO RUN THE SCENE.
WHEN I'VE GOT FOUR GUYS THERE, WE'RE GETTING FOUR DIFFERENT CRITICAL ASSIGNMENTS TAKEN CARE OF AT THE SAME TIME.
IF YOU HAVE THREE GUYS ON SCENE, I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO DO ONE PLUS ONE, IT EQUALS, IF YOU HAVE THREE ON SCENE, YOU'RE POTENTIALLY ONLY SAVING ONE LIFE ON A HIGHWAY CALL.
RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE FOUR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS TWO VEHICLES AT AT ONCE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S, YES SIR.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEY DON'T, UH, OPERATE IN ISOLATION EVER.
UH, FIREFIGHTERS ALWAYS GONNA DO WHAT A FIREFIGHTER HAS TO DO.
UM, HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT OUR DESIRE TO HAVE ANYONE, ANY INDIVIDUAL WORK BY THEMSELVES.
UH, THAT REDUNDANCY'S REALLY THERE.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA GET THE JOB DONE.
THIS IS A MUCH BETTER WAY TO GET THAT JOB DONE.
CHIEF, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AM ALWAYS IMPRESSED BY OUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, I MEAN, WHAT Y'ALL DO IS LITERALLY THE LORD'S WORK
AND, UM, I THANK YOU AND ALL OF YOUR TEAM, UH, FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE, I MEAN JUST THE GRANT APPLICATION THAT'S ACTUALLY PROACTIVE AND NOT JUST REACTIVE TO OPENING A NEW STATION.
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OUR ENTIRE CITY.CHIEF SAFFORD, UM, IT'S UNUSUAL.
WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO STAFFING.
UM, AND I ACTUALLY CHECKED WITH CHIEF BOYD TODAY AND HE KIND OF GAVE ME THE BACKGROUND AS TO THAT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF SOP FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU ARRIVED, YOU KNOW, THE, FOR THE ORDINANCE, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
SO, UH, WE GOT A SAYING IN THE FIRE SERVICE IS, UH, DON'T REINVENT THE WHEEL MUCH LIKE I JUST SAID.
WE BORROW ON OUR OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS SUCCESS AND SO MANY CITIES HAVE GONE ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE ROUTE.
UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IN TEXAS TO GO THIS ROUTE, AND IT'S HELPED PROTECT THIS STAFFING MODEL OVER THE YEARS.
UM, KIND OF GIVES IT THAT EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION FROM THE CITY, UH, TO WHERE ANY DOWNTURNS IN THE ECONOMY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY THREATEN THE CITIZEN OR FIREFIGHTER SAFETY, UH, KIND OF HELPS INSULATE THAT AND PROTECT THAT.
AND TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN SMITH SAID, UM, ONE, WE'RE ALWAYS BEHIND Y'ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT AND WE KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE, YOU AND, AND OUR PD ARE OUR FIRST LINE DEFENDERS.
UM, I THINK THIS IS, UH, AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE ALL UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE HAVE, HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET THE RESOURCES TO GO AFTER GRANTS.
AND, UH, I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US THAT IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, IF THERE'S GRANTS TO GO AFTER, WE GONNA PROVIDE YOU AND ANYBODY ELSE WITHIN THE CITY, UH, THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE THIS GOES TO SHOW WHAT YOU COULD DO, WHICH ULTIMATELY HELPS THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY ELSE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE FOR FOUR MEMBER STAFFING.
SORRY, MY NOTES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE FOR FOUR MEMBER STAFFING ASSIGNED TO ALL FRONTLINE FIRE ENGINES AND AERIAL TRUCKS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UH, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 23, UH, TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[25. Comments by Mayor, City Council, City Attorney and City Management ]
FOR COMMENTS, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGEMENT.AND I'LL START DOWN TO MY LEFT.
UM, AGAIN, GLAD THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT THE, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT POSITION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE EXCELLENT SERVICE THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED, BUT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES FOR THEM.
UM, SECONDLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
THE WELL WISHES AND THE CONCERNS REGARDING MY HEALTH SITUATION.
UM, I WILL BE, SORRY, TRENTON, I'M NOT GONNA BE SHARING THIS TABLE WITH YOU, BUT MY GOAL IS TO BE UP THERE, UM, UH, AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT EVERYBODY WHO'S REACHED OUT AND, UH, THE WELL WISHES AND THE PRAYERS, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
UH, NO, JUST PLAYING OUT SOME NEW INFORMATION ABOUT HIM MOVING UP.
SO,
WE HAD THREE SPLIT VOTES TONIGHT.
WE HAD ONE MOTION THAT FAILED A SECOND.
WE HAD ONE MOTION ESSENTIALLY TABLED AND BROUGHT BACK.
AND THE, THIS COUNCIL OPERATED FLAWLESSLY AND WITH RESPECT.
SO, UM, THOSE THAT THINK IT'S FOUR OH OR FIVE OH EVERY TIME IT'S NOT.
UM, SO I THANK EVERYONE UP HERE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, WE COULD GO ON AND ON AND I'LL PROBABLY CRY SO I WON'T DO IT.
AND I MEAN THAT, UM, I MEAN, JAMES, DID HE ALREADY LEAVE? HE ALREADY LEFT.
BUT IT MIGHT SEEM SMALL, BUT THE PETER STREET RECONSTRUCTION, IT IS, IT'S, IT'S A ROADWAY THAT NEEDS IT.
IT'S A ROADWAY THAT'S WELL TRAVELED.
AND THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BEFORE.
AND THE CONCERNS WERE RAISED WITH LOCALIZED FLOODING, UM, REENTERING THE ROADWAY AND JAMES AND JUSTIN AND THAT TEAM.
I MEAN, JUST TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
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IN A MANNER THAT IT NEEDED A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT, $37,000, WHAT WAS BUDGETED.AND THAT IS, THAT IS OUR STAFF WORKING HARD AND WORKING HARD TO PROVIDE THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, JUST TO ADD TO, UH, COUNCILMAN SMITH'S, UH, THAT, THAT MONEY THAT WAS USED WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM A PROJECT THAT THEY SAVED MONEY ON.
SO YOU GUYS, MAN, NEVER CEASED TO AMAZE ME.
THAT THAT JUST, THE, THE TERM GRANT MONEY JUST MAKES ME SMILE FROM EAR TO EAR.
I, I RAN, UM, I RAN A CAMPAIGN ON THIS WHEN I VERY FIRST, UH, DECIDED TO RUN.
I WAS LIKE, WE HAVE, AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO GROW WITHOUT PUTTING, PLACING THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER.
AND YOU GUYS KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
CITY MANAGER, RICKY, RICKY BOYD.
YEAH, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TONIGHT.
I GUESS SHE'S GONE FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THE OPD BUILDING, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN BRING YOU SOMETHING GOOD ON THAT AND GET A FINAL THREE 80 AGREEMENT ON THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR MAN STAFFING IS BY FAR, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST INTERVIEWED HERE FOR FIRE CHIEF, THAT WAS, I WAS ALLOWED TO ASK THREE QUESTIONS, AND THIS WAS THE FIRST OF THE THREE QUESTIONS I ASKED ABOUT IS SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
UM, I APPRECIATE COUNSEL'S SUPPORT ON THIS.
UM, I PLEA I APPRECIATE THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE REST OF THE FIRE ADMIN STAFF'S HARD WORK ON THIS AND, UM, FOR ME IT'S A GOAL COME TRUE.
SO, UH, I APPRECIATE COUNSEL'S SUPPORT ON THAT VERY MUCH.
I, I REALLY JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL TONIGHT, UH, FOR ALWAYS PUTTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST, WHETHER IT BE POLICE OR FIRE OR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FOLKS IN THE FIELD THAT ARE HAVING TO REPAIR A, A, A LINE OR SOMETHING AT AT AM HOURS.
UH, THIS COUNCIL ALWAYS RISES TO THE OCCASION AND PUTS THE PUBLIC'S SAFETY AS A TOP PRIORITY.
AND, UH, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU TONIGHT AND, UM, NOT BLINKING AN EYE ON THIS STUFF.
THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES THE BEST PROTECTION, WHETHER IT THEY NEED A POLICE OFFICER OR THEY NEED A FIREFIGHTER.
AND THIS COUNCIL ALWAYS, ALWAYS KEEPS THAT IN MIND.
AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UH, TRACE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY? I WAS JUST GOING TO, UH, TELL EVERYONE, UH, CROSSROADS IS COMING DOWN THE PIPE, MAKE PLANS OCTOBER 24TH.
THIS WAS A REALLY FUN EVENT LAST YEAR AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE FUN THIS YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
THERE'LL BE, UH, LOTS OF, OF, UH, SHRIMP FLOATING AROUND DOWNTOWN.
UM, IT, IT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN.
[23. Convene into Executive Session to deliberate economic development incentives, as permitted by Texas Government Code Section 551.087; to deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property for municipal purposes, as permitted by Texas Government Code Section 551.072; to deliberate personnel matters, including the appointment, evaluation, duties or dismissal of any member of a City board or commission, as permitted by Texas Government Code Section 551.074; to consult with City Attorney regarding legal issues associated with City Code and Charter provisions and consultation with City Attorney regarding pending and anticipated litigation, and consultation with City Attorney regarding legal issues associated with Article XI, Chapter 2 of the Code of Ordinances as permitted by Texas Government Code Section 551.071, and all matters incident and related thereto]
GONNA CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.YOUR, YOUR, UH, FEEL FREE TO STAY OR NOT.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE BACK THERE TOO LONG, UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND, AND, UH, HAVE A GREAT WEEK.
[24. Reconvene and take any necessary action ]
RE RECONVENING AND, UH, TAKING ANY NECESSARY ACTION, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY.SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE THIS MEETING AT 9 0 9.