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EVENING EVERYONE.WE'RE GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2026, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE OUR FOCUS WILL BE THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THE LAND OF WATSAHACHEE, TEXAS.
IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR, UH, TODAY AND THIS INCREDIBLE EVENING.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN THE CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE AND LIVE, AND, UM, GIFTS, THANKS TO YOU FOR LETTING US LIVE IN AN AMAZING CITY.
AND LORD, UM, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR, FOR EACH CITIZEN THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT, THAT HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND ALL THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE THIS MEETING A SUCCESS.
AND YOUR WORD PROVIDES THAT WISDOM WILL BE GRANTED FOR THOSE WHO ASK.
AND WE ASK TONIGHT UP HERE THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER, UH, YOUR KINGDOM THROUGH OUR CITY AND CONTINUE TO MAKE IT AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO LIVE.
PLAY ALL YOUR BLESSINGS OVER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER PORCH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC APPEARANCE CARD MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY ISSUES.
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONCERN, WHETHER ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT COMMENT OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS DURING THIS PERIOD, EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 5 1 0.042 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE HAD ZERO PEOPLE SIGN UP TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[4. Consent Agenda ]
NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.ALL MATTERS, ALL OTHER MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS OF THESE MATTERS.
APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.
ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[5. Recognize Wendy Johnson for her service on the Planning and Zoning Commission ]
NUMBER FIVE, OUTGOING CHAIR.UM, I USUALLY SIT DOWN THERE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I FACED THE CHAIR WHO DECIDED TO LEAVE US.
UM, NO, WITH ALL, WITH ALL SINCERITY, UM, I AM SITTING UP HERE FOR A REASON BECAUSE I DO RESPECT, UM, CHAIRWOMAN, UM, JOHNSON.
SHE'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, WHEN SHE CAME IN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, UM, IT WAS RIGHT AROUND WHEN I STARTED.
UM, SHE WAS FILLING THE SHOES OF RICK KEER, WHO WAS THE CHAIR FOR, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER, 14, 15 YEAR, 24, 24 YEARS ALTOGETHER.
UM, SO THERE WERE SOME BIG SHOES THAT SHE WAS FILLING, UM, IMMEDIATELY, UM, WHEN SHE, UH, VOTED ON, NOT ONCE DID SHE EVER COME AND ASK ME TO BE THE CHAIR.
UM, SHE, UH, SHE NOT ONCE WANTED THIS ROLE, IN MY OPINION, UM, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS WILLING TO TAKE ON, WHICH IS A BIG ROLE TO LEAD THESE MISSION, LEAD THESE MEETINGS, TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO STAFF ON HOW SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IMMEDIATELY IN MEETING, WE MET EVERY WEEK FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, AND SHE HAD A GOAL AND A VISION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ONE OF THOSE VISIONS AND GOALS WERE FOR MORE TRAINING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SHE GAVE US A, UM, SHE GAVE US A, SHE GAVE ME A CHALLENGE TO PROVIDE TRAINING FOR ALL OF YOU THAT COULD HELP BENEFIT ALL OF YOU.
UM, I FEEL THROUGH HER LEADERSHIP, SHE HAS SET A TONE FOR THE PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, SHE HAS HIGH SET, A HIGH STANDARD AS WELL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK HER FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
IT'S A VERY SELFLESS POSITION, AND EACH ONE OF YOU DO THIS AS WELL.
I FEEL LIKE SHE'S MADE ME A BETTER PERSON.
UM, I KNOW SHE'S MADE MY STAFF AND SHE HAS HELPED IMPROVE, UH, THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN, UM, THE SEA OF WAXAHATCHEE.
AND SHE WILL LEAVE A LASTING IMPRESSION WITH THE CITY AND WITH MYSELF.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SO MUCH.
WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE, UM, I'LL HAVE MICHELLE COME ON UP.
UM, SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT, UM, FOR YOUR SERVICE AS CHAIR.
UH, WE DO APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE.
UM, LET HER PERCENT, SHE'S BETTER AT THIS STUFF THAN I AM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
AND THEN IF, IF ABEL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH SHERMAN JOHNSON,
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UM, SO WE CAN MEMORIALIZE THIS SO YOU SMELL GOOD, I CAN SMELL FROM HERE.YOU'RE ABOUT AT LEAST SIX INCHES TALLER THAN ANY, CHRIS.
IS THIS A GOOD PLACE OR DO WE NEED TO MOVE? I MOVE OVER.
YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO SEND THE GIRL OFF.
[6. Public Hearing on a request by Derek McCall, Tanner Consulting, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP)for a Drive-Thru Establishment use, including requested deviations from base site plan, parking, and landscape plan regulations for a restaurant with a drive-thru within a Planned Development-General Retail (PD-GR) zoning district located at 504 N Hwy 77 (Property ID: 172327) Owner: Mark Godwin, Retail Buildings, Inc(ZDC-60-2026)]
IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DEREK MCCALL.TANNER CONSULTING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR DRIVE-THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT USE, INCLUDING REQUESTING DEVIATIONS FROM BAY SITE PLAN, PARKING AND LANDSCAPE PLAN REGULATIONS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH WITHIN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT GENERALS RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED 5 0 4 NORTH HIGHWAY 77.
OWNER MARK GODWIN, RETAIL BUILDINGS, INC.
ZDC DASH SIX ZERO DASH 2 2 6 ON GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, ZDC DASH 60 DASH 2026.
THIS IS FOR SUP FOR A DRIVE THROUGH, UH, ESTABLISHMENT USE FOR BRAHMS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL, SORRY, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SUP FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, UM, WHICH IS FOR BRAHMS ON APPROXIMATELY 1.75 ACRE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 5 0 4 NORTH US HIGHWAY 77 WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DASH 19 DASH GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING BUILDING LAYOUT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED THROUGH A SITE PLAN AND BUILDING PERMIT IN 1991.
AT THAT TIME, UM, A SVP WAS REQUIRED FOR A DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT SERVICES.
IN 2020, A COMMERCIAL REMODEL PERMIT WAS SUBMITTED FOR AN INTERIOR RENOVATION AND THE ADDITION OF AN ENTRY VESTIBULE.
HOWEVER, THIS PERMIT DID NOT RECEIVE A FINAL INSPECTION.
AND IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT WAS SUBMITTED TO ADD A SECOND DRIVE THROUGH LANE, WHICH TRIGGERED THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SUP UPDATE.
EXPANDING THE NONCONFORMITY STATUS.
APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WILL BRING THE EXISTING DRIVE THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH TODAY'S CITY ZONING ORDINANCE WHILE AUTHORIZING THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND DRIVE THROUGH LANE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING LANDSCAPE DEVIATIONS FROM TODAY'S ZONING CODE TO, UM, TO OMI PROPOSED CANOPY AND ORNAMENTAL TREES ALONG US HIGHWAY 77.
AND TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC PLANT SPECIES LISTS AND TOTAL PLANT COUNT TO STAFF, STAFF SENT A TOTAL OF 21 PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS AND RECEIVE NO RESPONSES IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP REQUEST, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, AND I'M HERE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH ON, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'VE GOT ONE.
UM, CAN YOU, WELL, YOU KIND OF OUTLINED THE, THE, UH, AND MAYBE THIS IS
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A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT THEY GIVE REASONING WHY THE, THEY WANT THE DEVIATION ON THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.UM, THE, AND YOU CAN LET THEM ANSWER THAT IF THAT'D BE BETTER, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN, BUT ALSO DURING THE REVIEW OF THIS, UH, SGP APPLICATION, THERE WERE, UM, A LOT OF UTILITY EASEMENTS ALONG 77.
SO THEREFORE THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS THE BEST THAT THEY CAN DO WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, TEARING UP CONCRETE JUST TO EXPAND OR EXTEND, UM, A WATER LINE FOR IRRIGATION OR, OR WHATNOT.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE WATER MAINS AND TELECOMMUNICATION LINES ALONG 77 THAT WOULD IMPEDE THEM FROM DOING THAT AS WELL.
AND, UM, I TRIED TO GET CREPE MYRTLES FROM MISS PONTY, SO
WE'RE I, WE, WE TRIED THE BEST WE COULD WITH WHAT WE HAD.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU SO MUCH, HON.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? I'M DEREK MCCALL WITH TANNER CONSULTING.
UH, FIFTY THREE TWENTY THREE SOUTH LEWIS IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
UM, YEAH, WE ARE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR BRAHMS. UM, WE WORK WITH THEM AROUND THE REGION.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS CYCLE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET DOUBLE DRIVES, UPDATING A LOT OF A DA REQUIREMENTS.
UH, I THINK THE, THE LAST PERMIT THAT WENT AROUND THAT, UM, THAT SHE MENTIONED THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHEN THEY WERE DOING SOME INTERIOR WORK ON THE A DA.
THIS WAS JUST TO ADD A DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THEY'RE LOSING THREE SPACES.
AND WE DID, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ADDED A FEW MORE TREES SINCE THIS PLAN.
UH, JUST, WE SENT IT A LITTLE BIT LATE, SO WE SQUEEZED IN I THINK FOUR MORE TREES.
AND WE ARE DEFINITELY WILLING TO SWITCH THOSE OUT TO SOME CREPE MYRTLES IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANT.
SO I APPRECIATE IT AND I'M HERE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WHERE ARE THE ADDITIONAL TREES? CAN YOU JUST YES.
POINT 'EM OUT OF, UH, SO THE ISLAND ON THE NORTH, UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT NARROW, BUT WE THINK WE CAN FIT A SMALL TREE IN THERE.
AND THEN THE CRATE MYLES ARE SMALL, SO THAT'S GOOD.
AND THEN THE ISLAND THAT'S ON THE SOUTH OR ON THE, EACH SIDE OF THE ENTRY.
UH, SO RIGHT THERE AND THE ONE BELOW AND THE THAT, YEAH, THERE'S TWO THAT ARE GOING IN.
SO TWO IN THAT ONE AND THE ONE IN EACH OF THOSE.
SO YEAH, FOUR CRATE MYRTLES WOULD BE PERFECT THERE.
SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY.
SO THERE WILL BE TWO PLACES TO ORDER, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT GOES INTO A SINGLE LINE? IT DOES.
IT EMERGES TO ONE, NOT IDEAL, BUT KIND OF WORKING WITH THE PARKING LOT THAT WAS BUILT IN 91, SO.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAD ONE PERSON SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, WHITNEY HILL, 1615 ALEXANDER DRIVE.
SO I AM ACTUALLY DIRECTLY BEHIND BROM'S DRIVE THROUGH.
I AM Y'ALL'S NEIGHBOR, UM, DIRECTLY BEHIND.
SO IN MY LIVING ROOM, I SEE DIRECTLY OUT MY BACK DOOR TO THIS DRIVE THROUGH.
UM, WE'VE UPGRADED TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
WE CAN STILL SEE TO THIS DRIVE THROUGH NOBODY'S FAULT.
THAT'S WHERE WE CHOSE TO LIVE.
UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, A FEW CONCERNS THAT I'M NOT SEEING CLEARLY HERE, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
WHENEVER THEY UPGRADED THE LIGHTING AND STUFF, WE HAD AN LED LIGHT THAT, I MEAN, JUST BLARED LIT UP OUR BACKYARD LIKE A FOOTBALL FIELD.
UM, WE TRIED TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL FOR OVER A YEAR, NOT COUNCIL, SORRY, UM, CODE, UM, FOR OVER A YEAR, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.
UH, FINALLY REACHED OUT TO BROMS, UM, AND THEY DID PUT A DEFLECTOR.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER WE'RE PUTTING IN THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT, UM, IT'S NOT BRIGHTER LIGHTS, HIGHER UP LIGHTS, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE COMING BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO ON OUR END.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T MAKE A 10 FOOT FENCE.
UM, BRAHMS CAN MAKE THEIR FENCE HIGHER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HELP.
UM, THEY'RE AT A SIX FOOT FENCE.
I KNOW THAT THE NEW CITY ORDINANCE, AS YOU SEE, SEVEN 11 FURNITURE SHOP, HTO, UM, THEY'VE ALL MOVED TO THE STONE FENCE.
EIGHT FOOT BRAHMS IS STILL AT SIX FOOT,
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BUT YOU KNOW, Y'ALL RECENTLY REPAIRED AND THE LITTLE LOT BEHIND THERE.I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE LITTLE CIRCLES OR TREES OR, UM, DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, THEY'RE EXISTING, THEY'RE EXISTING TREES.
WELL, AGAIN, NOT TO HATE ON BRAHMS. WE LOVE BRAHMS. WE'RE OVER THERE ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE, WE DO, WE LOVE BRAHMS. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT THAT LITTLE LOT, IT'S JUST, IT'S FULL OF TRASH CONSTANTLY.
THE FENCE COULD STAND TO BE REPLACED.
THERE'S SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THE, THE 18 WHEELER HAS COME THROUGH AND KNOCKED SOME HOLES IN IT.
IT'S OFTEN THAT THE TRASH IS STICKING OUT THE TOP OF THE DUMPSTER, WHICH AGAIN, WE CAN SEE FROM OUR LIVING ROOM OVER OUR EIGHT FOOT FENCE DIRECTLY RIGHT THERE.
SO ANY HELP WE CAN GET FROM YOU GUYS JUST TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND, YOU KNOW, STONE FENCE MIGHT HELP WITH NOISE REDUCTION, MAY NOT.
I HAVE PICTURES THAT I CAN SHARE WITH ANYBODY INTERESTED.
I KNOW THAT THOSE NEED TO BE SHARED TO EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, JUST WHATEVER ON THAT FRONT.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE LATER I'M KICKING MYSELF FOR NOT COMING DOWN HERE AND EXPRESSING ANY CONCERNS.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
THANK WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[7. Consider recommendation of ZDC-60-2026]
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH 60 DASH 2026 AND SUP FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT.USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[8. Public Hearing on a request by Kevin McIntosh, Bomac Wax Investments, LLC, to amend a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Unified Lot Sign use and providing for deviations from the base sign regulations for a multi-tenant shopping center within a Planned Development 42-Commercial (PD-42-C) zoning district located at the 100 block of Bessie Coleman Blvd (Property ID: 223131) Owner: Bomac Wax Investments, LLC (ZDC-117-2026) ]
IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY KEVIN MCINTOSH MACK WAX INVESTMENTS LLC TO AMEND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR UNITED LOT SIGN USE AND PROVIDING FOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE BASELINE REGULATIONS FOR A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER WITHIN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 42 COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, LOCATED AT THE 100 BLOCK OF BETSY COLEMAN BOULEVARD.OWNER ACK WAX INVESTMENTS, L-L-C-Z-D-C DASH SEVEN DASH 2026.
SURE, GOOD EVENING WITH THIS REQUEST.
HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY WITH, WITH THIS REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT, UH, KEVIN MCINTOSH WITH TRINITY PARTNERS, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THEY HAD A UNIFIED LOT SIGN, SUP APPROVED.
SO FOR SIMPLICITY, GIVEN HIS, UH, NEED FOR ADDITIONAL WALL SIGNAGE FOR SOME BUILDINGS, WE'RE AMENDING THE SUP.
AND JUST SO FOR CLARITY, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE MONUMENT SIGN IN THIS REQUEST THAT STILL STANDS AS IT WAS APPROVED BEFORE.
HE'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES LEGISLATIVELY FOR ANY OF HIS BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
THIS IS PURELY ABOUT JUST WALL SIGNAGE, UH, THE ISSUE THAT HE'S GOT.
AND I'LL JUST, AND THIS IS SOUTH OF ACADEMY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BASSEY, JUST IF ANYBODY WAS UNSURE OF THE LOCATION, LET ME GET THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IF I CAN.
SO WITH THIS SITE PLAN, THIS IS, UH, WHERE SPROUTS IS GOING.
I DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OF ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES, UH, BUT I BELIEVE SEVERAL HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP.
AND THE CONCERN, UH, THAT THERE'S BEEN IS WITH OUR SIGN ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN, NORMALLY A BUILDING WHICH COULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE TENANT, BUT A BUILDING IS LIMITED TO FOUR SIGNS MAXIMUM.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS, UH, BUILDING A UP HERE IS THREE TENANTS.
SO THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY BUSINESS HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IDEALLY AT LEAST TWO SIGNS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE THREE ON THIS SIDE, THREE ON THE BACKSIDE, AND ONE ON EACH SIDE.
A TOTAL OF EIGHT SIGNS FOR A BUILDING LIKE THIS.
AS THE ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED, UH, THIS, I BELIEVE IS TO BE A BANK THAT WOULDN'T EXCEED.
THAT WOULD STILL BE THE NORMAL FOUR SIGNS MAX.
'CAUSE IT'S THE ONE BUILDING OVER HERE.
THERE'S TWO SUITES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, SIX.
THEN, UH, SPROUTS ALREADY HAS IT SIGNED, SO IT'S AT THE FOUR.
AND THEN OVER HERE, JUST OUTTA CONCERN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE IS RESIDENTIAL KIND OF OFF THE MAP HERE.
SO WE WERE, AND ALSO, UH, WITH SOME OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE WITH I BELIEVE THE, THE DUMPSTERS, THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THE SIGN BEING THERE ANYHOW.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 SIGNS ON THIS PART OF THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO SPROUTS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
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YOU MAY HAVE.ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? BRIAN? DOES THIS DIFFER AT ALL FROM WHAT THE SURROUNDING, UM, SHOPPING CENTERS AND, AND RETAIL BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE? I THINK IT'S GENERALLY PRETTY CONSISTENT.
I WENT OVER TO WHERE ACADEMY MM-HMM
IS, AND THEN I FORGET THE NAME OF WHAT IT IS TO THE SOUTH.
BUT, AND LOOKING AROUND, I NOTICED THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, FIRST WATCH AND THEN THERE'S A METHODIST HEALTH CLINIC.
THEY'VE GOT SIGNS ON CORNERS, THEY'VE GOT SIGNS ON BACKSIDE MM-HMM
SO THIS WAS TO TRY TO ALSO GIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A NORMAL AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE IN A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER.
AND TO BE, THE INTENT IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE NEARBY.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? HI, KEVIN MCINTOSH.
I LIVE AT 7 0 4 LINDSEY WAY IN COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS.
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, HEARING ME TONIGHT.
AND, UH, LISTENING TO OUR REQUEST.
SO, UM, WE ARE DELIVERING ALL THIS SPACE RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT TENANTS IN DOING, UH, WORK AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET SPROUTS OPEN BY THE END OF OCTOBER.
AND A LOT OF OUR TENANTS, UH, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND, AND HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IS I STARTED HAVING A LOT OF OUR SHOP SPACE TENANTS.
SPROUTS CAME IN FOR THEIR OWN SIGN APPROVAL FOR THEIR BUILDING.
AND I GUESS I THOUGHT WE HAD TAKEN CARE OF THIS INITIALLY IN OUR UNIFIED SIGN ORDINANCE.
BUT, BUT WE HAD LEFT OFF THE BUILDING SIGNAGE, THE EXTERIOR BUILDING SIGNAGE.
AND SO I STARTED HAVING TENANTS BRING ALL THEIR, THEIR SIGNS TO ME.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET OUR APPROVAL BEFORE THEY SUBMIT THEM TO YOU GUYS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM TORCHY'S, ASPEN DENTAL, UH, POTBELLY, UH, AND ALL THE OTHERS THEY CAME TO US WITH, UM, THEY WANTED, THEY, MOST OF 'EM WERE IN CAP THREE SIGNS.
AND SO THEN I STARTED LOOKING AND I APPROVED THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, ASPEN DENTAL CAME TO ME AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE A SIGN ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE IT ON TWO SIDES, WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE SIGN COPY BY HALF.
AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND GOT IT APPROVED.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.
THIS IS, THESE SIGNS ARE GONNA BE REALLY TINY.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK GOOD ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO WHEN I STARTED GETTING ALL THE OTHER REQUESTS IN, I WAS LIKE, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IS EVERY TENANT COMING IN ON THEIR OWN FOR THEIR OWN, UH, VARIANCE, WHICH IS GONNA BOTTLENECK YOU GUYS AND BE INCONSISTENT IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
WE WANT ALL OF OUR TENANTS TO HAVE GOOD SIGNAGE.
THAT'S THEIR BEST MARKETING THAT THEY'VE GOT.
AND SO I JUST TOLD EVERYBODY TO PUT THE PUT ON THE BRAKES.
LET ME GO BRING THIS TO, UH, PNZ AND COUNCIL AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOMETHING AGREED TO THAT.
THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE TENANTS.
THAT GIVES THEM MAXIMUM SIGNAGE, NOT EGREGIOUS, BUT GIVES THEM GOOD SIGNAGE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, SO WHAT WE BROUGHT FORTH IS, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, AS HE POINTED OUT, THE STRIP CENTER IN THE FRONT THAT'S GOT THREE TENANTS.
THE, UH, END CAPS WOULD PREFERABLY LIKE THREE SIGNS, ONE ON THE FRONT, ONE ON THE SIDE, ONE ON THE REAR SPECIFICALLY.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARKING IN BACK AND, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING TO SPROUTS.
SO THAT'LL BE A SINGLE TENANT USE NO MORE THAN FOUR SIGNS.
THE BUILDING ON BESSIE COLEMAN IS ACTUALLY A THREE TENANT BUILDING.
UH, WE'VE GOT POTBELLY, WE'VE GOT WILEY'S JEWELERS THAT'S GONNA GO IN THERE, WHICH IS LOCAL AND HANDLES ICE CREAM.
AND SO, UM, IDEALLY THE END CAPS FRONT SIDE AND THEN, AND THEN THE BACK FACING BESSIE COLEMAN, AND THEN THE JEWELER IN THE MIDDLE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE FRONT AND BACK SIGNAGE.
I THINK HAVING SIGNAGE ON BESSIE COLEMAN IS, IS IMPORTANT.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO SPROUTS, UH, IS CURRENTLY THREE TENANTS.
AND E EVERY SPACE IS LEASED IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE LIKE THE END CAP AND, AND THE GUYS TO HAVE SIGNAGE ON THE BACK.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CRITICAL FOR THEM.
UH, BEHIND SPROUTS IS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, UH, PUTTING CRUNCH FITNESS AND THEY'RE CLOSING NEXT MONTH AND GONNA START
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CONSTRUCTION.SO THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, RETAIL BEHIND THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN WE'RE CONSTRUCTING, I THINK AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY SCREEN WALL ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO WE JUST WANTED IT TO BE ON THAT BUILDING AT THE TENANTS OPTION.
UM, BUT THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO LET US KNOW HOW YOU, YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
WE ALSO WILL BE, JUST ON ONE OTHER NOTE, I WANT TO GET THIS ADDRESSED.
WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, GETTING READY TO SIGN A LEASE WITH CAVENDERS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SPROUTS.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A 16,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
THAT WHATEVER WE DO HERE ALSO APPLIES TO THAT, THAT BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA CONSTRUCT NEXT YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'RE DROPPING A LOT OF TEA TONIGHT,
UH, I HOPE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS.
UH, IN PLANNING AND, AND PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT.
YOU PICKED A GOOD PLACE TO PUT THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? STAFF HAS ONE.
UH, SO JUST FOR CLARITY, SO THIS BUILDING HERE, YOU SAID IS THREE TENANTS NOW? YES.
SO IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, THAT'S CONSIDERED BUILDING B AND WE WERE SHOWING A MAXIMUM OF SIX 'CAUSE WE HAD UNDERSTOOD IT TO JUST BE TWO TENANTS.
UH, STAFF DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
JUST IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
BUILDING B HERE, ALSO HAVING UP TO EIGHT SIGNS.
WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT IN YOUR MOTION SO WE CAN HAVE THE ORDINANCE REFLECT THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAD ZERO PEOPLE SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
[9. Consider recommendation of ZDC-117-2026 ]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 1 1 7 20 26 UNIFIED LOT SIGN FOR THE PLAZA.BESSIE COLEMAN, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE MODIFICATION OF BUILDING B, UH, BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT WALL SIGNS, UH, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND WE WILL NOW HAVE STAFF AND COMMISSION COMMENTS.
I JUST, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I JUST, UH, DITTO WHAT TRENT SAYS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
AND COMMISSIONER CONNOR, I GET I CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT,
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TAKE EVERYBODY FOR SHOWING UP, UH, GIVING US THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
UH, STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DID.
AND WENDY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE AND WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU.
THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE, MS. HILL.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT'S EXACTLY HOW YOU BRING TO OUR ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYTHING'S FOLLOWED.
AND I KNOW THAT BROMS WANTS TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR, JUST LIKE YOU WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THEM.
SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR EVENING.
I KNOW STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE RIGHT.
UM, UH, JUST, I WAS JUST THINKING BACK AND I'VE, THIS IS, I'M JUST COMPLETEING MY FIRST YEAR HERE.
AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONLY ONE TIME THAT I, I KIND OF SHOULD HAVE BIT MY TONGUE AND I DIDN'T, UH, WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE HAD PERSONALLY SAID SOMETHING TO ME AND ACCUSED ME AND, AND I GOT A LITTLE RILED UP AND WENDY BROUGHT ME BACK TO REALITY WHERE I SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD BEEN.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I WILL MISS THAT.
AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY OUR, OUR NEW CHAIR WILL, WILL DO THAT AND KIND OF KEEP US IN CHECK.
SO, UM, YOU'VE BROUGHT, UM, GRACE TO THIS POSITION.
SO THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, JIM, VICE CHAIR, YOU, MY FRIEND, HAVE MADE THIS BOARD INFINITELY BETTER.
WE, UH, YOUR, YOUR IMPACT WILL BE WITH US FOR MANY, MANY NOS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE ONLY SERVED WITH YOU FOR A SHORT TIME, BUT THAT SHORT TIME HAS BEEN PLEASURABLE AND I DO THANK YOU AND I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A YEAR, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, MAKING ME FEEL WELCOME WHEN I GOT HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
AND, UH, YOU DID IT WITH EASE AND, UH,
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WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE.I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU MA'AM FOR BRINGING THE COMMENTS THAT YOU DID AND, AND, UH, MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR PEOPLE HERE THAT IT MATTERS TO.
AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE THEY DO WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAID TONIGHT AND TAKE THAT BACK AND, AND, UH, REMEDY SOME OF THOSE ISSUES SO THAT Y'ALL CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AGAIN, UH, THIS, UH, P AND Z UH, COMMISSION, THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UH, I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
I KNOW I SAY THAT EVERY TIME, UH, BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOUR SERVICE, UH, TO THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE.
AND MS. JOHNSON, WHERE DO I START? UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET MS. JOHNSON ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, UH, THROUGH HER WONDERFUL DAUGHTER THAT WAS EXCELLING AT LIFE SCHOOL.
AND, UH, SHE WAS OUR HONORARY COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT, MS. JOHNSON WAS HERE TO SUPPORT HER DAUGHTER.
AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH MS. JOHNSON, AND WE HAVE BEEN CLOSE FRIENDS EVER SINCE.
AND, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, WENDY.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT INTERESTED ME WAS THAT SHE HAD HAD, UH, SERVED, UH, WITH THE CITY OF DESOTO.
AND, UH, I KNEW THAT, AND I KNEW THAT SHE COULD BRING, UH, STRONG LEADERSHIP TO OUR CITY AS WELL.
AND, UH, SO AT FIRST OPPORTUNITY, UH, IT WAS MY DESIRE ALONG WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL TO, TO ADD HER TO OUR BOARD.
AND IT WASN'T TOO LONG BEFORE SHE BECAME THE CHAIR, AND SHE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR MAKING, MAKING THINGS BETTER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR, VERY KIND OF YOU AND I, I WANNA TAKE THIS CHANCE TO, UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TELL CHRIS AND AMY THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEADFAST SUPPORT OF THIS BOARD.
I CANNOT THINK OF MAYBE A HANDFUL OF TIMES THAT I DIDN'T SEE YOU GUYS, BUT I MEAN, JUST IF NO ONE ELSE SHOWED UP, YOU GUYS WERE HERE.
AND, UH, IT DEFINITELY MADE, IT, MADE IT WORTHWHILE.
SO I WANTED TO THANK THE BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE AND SUPPORTING US AND, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY AND THE APPLICANTS AND STAFF.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR YOUR KINDNESS TOWARD ME, HELPING ME TO GET OVER THE, THE HUMPS AND TRENTON.
COULDN'T DO, COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.
AND, UH, BRIAN, YOU'VE BEEN A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE TEAM AND THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
YOU GAVE ME SPACE TO, UH, GROW AND FLOURISH AND, UM, I'LL TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT PLACE.
SO I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
IT IS THE COMMISSION'S HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF WAXAHATCHEE.