* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call to Order ] [00:00:07] ALRIGHT, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT, UH, 7:04 PM I HIT THE GAVEL A LITTLE TOO SOON. UH, BUT IF YOU ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT. AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, HELP US TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. ALLOW US TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY. FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE, LORD GOD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE, ITS RESIDENTS AND ITS BUSINESSES. AND CONTINUE TO REMIND IS THAT WE DO WHAT WE DO HERE TODAY. THAT WE ALL ATTEMPT TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT IS RIGHT, TO PURSUE THE TRUTH FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND YOU AND FOR THE SERVICE OF HUMANITY. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THE PLEDGE, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE, AN INDIVISIBLE, THE ONLY, [4. Announcements/Presentations ] UH, PRESENTATION WE HAD TODAY. I HAVE TO SLIDE BY THAT ONE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, UH, HONORARY COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE ANNOUNCED BY TRACE ATKINS. UM, SO THAT MOVES [5. Public Comments] US TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, UH, PER OUR CITY CHARTER, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, UM, WHEN WE DID CONFIRM THIS, ANY ACTION TAKEN TONIGHT HAS TO PASS WITH A UNANIMOUS THREE OH VOTE SINCE THERE IS ONLY THREE OF US HERE. SO YOU MAY SEE SOME ITEMS TABLED AND MOVE TO A FUTURE MEETING. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, PUBLIC COMMENTS PERSONS MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUE. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY CONCERN WHETHER ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT COMMENT OR DE OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS DURING THIS TIME, EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 5 1 0 4 2 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. AND WE DID HAVE ONE RESIDENCE SIGN UP TO SPEAK. UH, KATHY MOR. GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN. I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU. I WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT BROUGHT YOU THE, TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE HANDICAPPED PARKING IN THE WAG, THE WAG SATCHIE DOG PARK. LOVE THE NAME FOR MY FRIENDS WHO ARE HANDICAPPED. IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN THE HILL WITH THEIR LITTLE DOGS. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR CARRYING THROUGH AND TAKING CARE OF THAT 'CAUSE. IT'S GONNA MEAN A LOT TO THEM AND TO ME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAAM. ALL RIGHT. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE SIGNED UP, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME THAT MISS THE SIGNUPS? ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL [6. Consent Agenda ] MOVE US, UH, TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM SIX OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL, ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM. ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A MOTION I'D MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS WHEN THE CONSENT AGENDA IS PRESENTED, NOT AS A CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY [00:05:03] TAKES US [7. Public Hearing on a request by Melvin Barnes, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Dwelling Unit use within a Single Family-2 zoning district located at 732 N. Gibson St (Property ID 174210) - Owner: William T. Marth & Susan Marth (ZDC-4-2026)] TO ITEM SEVEN, A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY MELVIN BARNES FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT. LOCATED AT 7 3 2 NORTH GIBSON STREET. OWNER WILLIAM T MARTH MARTH AND SUSAN MARTH, ZDC FOUR DASH 2026. TRENTON. THANK YOU. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 32 NORTH GIBSON STREET. IT'S APPROXIMATELY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY TWO DISTRICT IN ANY DISTRICT. WHEN SOMEONE REQUESTS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, DOES REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO BE APPROVED BY PLAINS, UH, TO GO BEFORE PLAINS ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, UM, THE EXISTING PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS 1,292 SQUARE FEET. THE PROPOSED ATTACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE APPRO IS 20, APPROXIMATELY 2,800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH INCLUDES AT AN ATTACHED GARAGE, UM, WHICH WE LOCATE, UH, IN THE REAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES MEET ALL PRIMARY SETBACKS. UM, WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS AND TYPICALLY BEFORE, UH, PLAIN ZONING COMMISSION, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THIS ITEM. AS PART OF THAT REQUEST, UH, PLAN ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND ADDING A CONDITION WHICH THE APPLICANT WAS AGREEABLE TO. THAT CONDITION WAS, UH, ADDED AS PART OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST. HERE'S A, UH, PROPOSED OF WHAT THE, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING AND STRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE. UM, I KNOW IT SAYS 2,800 SQUARE VIEW. THAT DOES INCLUDE THAT ENCLOSED GARAGE AS WELL. UM, EVENTUALLY WHEN THIS IS ALL CONSTRUCTED, IT WOULD ALL BE ALL CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SHOWN. UM, HERE'S THE PROPOSED ELEVATION, UM, AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, UM, AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, UM, STAFF HAS PUT, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO ALL ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THAT THEY CAN ONLY USE ONE WATER METER, ONE ELECTRICAL METER, UH, WHICH THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO, WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE AS WELL, WHEN THIS MAY BE. BEFORE, UM, MOVING NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, ONE CAME BACK IN FAVOR, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY AND ONE CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION. THAT WAS TOWARDS THE, UH, END OF THE ROAD OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN SEE AND THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. WHEN THIS, UH, WHEN PNZ HEARD THIS, ONCE AGAIN, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION. STAFF ALSO IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS LISTED IN YOUR REPORT. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. UH, SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM EIGHT. [8. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-4-2026] WE, WE WILL CONSIDER PROPOSED PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC FOUR DASH 2026. I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC DASH FOUR DASH 2026. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES [9. Public Hearing on a request by Linda Lewis for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for Accessory Structures exceeding 1,000 square feet in combined floor area within a Future Development (FD) zoning district located at 3339 Howard Road (Property ID 263578) – Owner(s): Steven & Linda Lewis (ZDC-68-2026) ] TEXAS TO ITEM NINE PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY LINDA LEWIS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 1000 SQUARE FEET AND COMBINED FLOOR WITH WITHIN A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. LOCATED AT 3 3 3 9 HOWARD ROAD. OWNER STEVEN AND LINDA LEWIS, ZDC 68 DASH 2026. THANK YOU. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED LOCATED, UH, 33 39 HOWARD ROAD. THEY'RE REQUESTING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT EXCEEDS 1000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. UH, DUE TO THIS REQUIRE, UH, DUE TO THIS, THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE IS REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE, UH, PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF AN SUP. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS, UH, SIMILAR TO OTHER REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND, UH, PASS SUBMITTALS. UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED IN OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WHICH GENERALLY ENCOURAGES, UM, LARGER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELL, UH, LARGER OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS LOCATED ON LARGER LOTS AS YOU SEE HERE. UM, THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER PROPERTIES ARE ZONED FD IN NATURE. UH, THE, THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS APPROXIMATELY 2,600 SQUARE FEET. UM, THIS PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 1099 SQUARE FEET. UM, DUE TO IT BEING THAT 99, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY 100 SQUARE FEET OVER THE REQUIREMENT. UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT WOULD NOT, UM, BE COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY. UM, THE PROPOSED, UH, ACCESS STRUCTURE IS TOLD IT'S BEING USED FOR STORAGE. [00:10:01] UM, AND ANOTHER THING OF THAT SORT, UM, WHEN THIS WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, UM, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WE MAILED OUT NOTICES ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN, UH, 200 FEET. UM, WE RECEIVED ZERO IN OPPOSITION OR ZERO IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION. UM, ALSO AS PART OF THIS SUP, UH, THERE WERE SOME OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WEREN'T, UM, THAT WEREN'T MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE ARE INCLUDING THAT AS PART OF THE SEP AS WELL. UM, THEY DO HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT DO NOT FOLLOW UNDER THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DEFINITIONS. SO WE ARE NOT COUNTING THOSE, BUT EVERYTHING IS DEFINED IN YOUR ORDINANCE, AND ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THANK YOU TRITON. UH, WE HAD NO ONE SET UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. [10. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-68-2026 ] UH, TAKES US TO ITEM 10. CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 68 DASH 2026. ANY DISCUSSION OR ACTION I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 68 20 26. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXCEEDING A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND COMBINED FLOOR AREA. USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND OR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. [11. Consider a contract with Key Construction for the reconstruction of the City’s Central Offices located at 820 Ferris Avenue for the Guaranteed Maximum Price of $11,995,085 ] IT TAKES US TO ITEM 11. CONSIDER A CONTRACT WITH KEY CONSTRUCTION FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF CITY'S CENTRAL CITY'S CENTRAL OFFICES, LOCATED AT EIGHT 20 FERRIS AVENUE FOR THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF $11,995,085. CI. CITY MANAGER BOYD? YES. THANK YOU. AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE, UH, PURCHASED THE, THIS BUILDING BACK IN, UH, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LARGE LONG CYCLE OF DESIGN AND SELECTED KEY CONSTRUCTION AS OUR CMAR. UH, THEY WENT THROUGH THE BIDDING PRO PROCESS TO SECURE THE CONTRACTORS NECESSARY TO PUT THE BUILDING BACK TOGETHER, UM, AND PROVIDED A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF 11,000 909 5. UM, THAT WAS AFTER SOME VALUE ENGINEERING. AND, UH, I, I WILL NOTE THAT WE, IT IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY EXPECTED. UH, THE GLASS ON THE BUILDING IS REACHED, HAS ACTUALLY PASSED ITS MAXIMUM LIFE EXPECTANCY. AND SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND ALSO, THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN WHAT WE, WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED IT, IT WAS LISTED AT 26,100 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S ACTUALLY 28,500. UM, SO THOSE THINGS HAVE, UH, ADDED TO THE COST, BUT THE COST PER SQUARE FEET IS STILL, UH, RELATIVELY THE SAME. AND SO, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS CONTRACT WITH KEY CONSTRUCTION FOR THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF ROUGHLY $12 MILLION. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I WOULD LIKE TO. OKAY. UH, CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THE WINDOWS THERE. WHAT'S THE AGE IN THE BUILDING? SO IT'S 44 YEARS OLD. IT WAS OPENED IN 1982. AND WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS? 40 YEARS? SO, YEAH, SO THE, THE THING IS, WE COULD ROLL THE DICE AND HOPE IT LASTS ANOTHER 10 YEARS OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEVER GOES BAD, BUT, UH, ONLY THING WE CAN GO BY IS BY THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MANUFACTURER AND THAT SORT OF THING. I'D HATE TO OPEN THE BUILDING UP AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPLACE THE GLASS IN TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER. DEFINITELY ADD TO THE COST, UH, ABOVE THE 663,000 THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS GMP AT THIS TIME. AND PLUS WE'D HAD TO VACATE THE OFFICES FOR A WHILE AFTER WE'VE ALREADY MOVED IN. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE, THE BEST IDEA. MM-HMM . ONLY REASON WHY IBR BROUGHT THAT UP IS THAT WE'RE PLAYING WITH HOUSE MONEY. RIGHT? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT AND, UM, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH OLDER BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GOING TO COME UP THAT WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'VE, I'VE GOT QUITE A BIT HERE THAT I WANNA DISCUSS ON THIS. IT, AS, AS COUNCIL'S AWARE OF, AND SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OF, I WAS OPPOSED TO CANCELING THE CONTRACT WE HAD ON THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL DOWNTOWN. AND HOWEVER, THE PURCHASE, I GREETED WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE COMERICA BUILDING FOR WHAT THE PRICE WAS AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THE BUILDING AFTER HAVING IT INSPECTED AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, LAST WEEK, THE, THE DISCUSSION OF THE WINDOWS CAME UP, WHICH INCREASED THE PRICE, WHICH GAVE ME A LITTLE PAUSE BECAUSE IT IS A 40 PLUS YEAR OLD BUILDING. [00:15:01] AND WHEN YOU TAKE 40-YEAR-OLD BUILDINGS THAT YOU HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH AND CHANGED THE GUTS OF IN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THIS ALL ENTAILS OTHER THAN REMODELING THE INSIDE. NOT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT COULDN'T, IT WASN'T PROVIDED, I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SURE OF IT WITH, WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTRICAL AND, AND, AND WATER LINES. AND I MANAGE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE PRETTY DARN OLD AND I KNOW WHAT PLUMBING AND WATER LINE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING NOW AT THESE PROPERTIES. HOWEVER, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GONNA PASS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND, AND GIVE A CONTRACT TO SOMEONE TO START THIS BUILDING. AND WE STILL HADN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THE ONE DOWNTOWN. WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THERE AND WE'VE GOT A, A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE ON THE, ON THE BUILDING DOWNTOWN THAT WE NEED TO, THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS NEW BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE THE MUNICIPAL COURTS UTILITY BUILDING CITY HALL, BUT SINCE IT HAD TWO OTHER FLOORS, WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO CREATE OR FIX REQUESTS THAT WERE DOWN THE ROAD. ONE IS FOR FIRE ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE A FLOOR, AND THE SECOND ONE'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. IN THE MEANTIME, WE BOUGHT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT A 2 MILLION, 1,000,900 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS MOBILE COMMAND CENTER. AND I HAVE QUESTIONS OF WHY WE NEED FOR A DEPARTMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I'M SURE AS WE GROW, WE'LL HAVE MORE, BUT WHY WE'RE GONNA NEED AN ENTIRE FLOOR OF A BUILDING FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE. IF IT'S GONNA BE A REGIONAL ONE AND TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE REGION, THAT'S FINE. BUT IN MY BELIEF, THE COUNTY OUGHT TO BE PAYING FOR THAT AND THE COUNTY OUGHT TO HAVE ONE FOR THE WHOLE REGION, NOT THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE PAYING FOR IT, NOT YOUR TAX DOLLARS. SO THEN WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER CITY HALL BUILDING, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE THREE STORIES, AND THE PRICE DID GO UP DRASTICALLY. NOW IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE RECORDS, THAT'S WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND. AND THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS, WHEN THEY DECIDED TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT ON THAT BUILDING, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY'D GOTTEN UP TO 16 MILLION ON WHAT THE PRICE WAS GONNA BE TO REMODEL THAT BUILDING. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE CITY RECORDS ON OCTOBER 21ST OF 24, WHEN WE HIRED TURNER CONSTRUCTION TO BE THE MANAGER AT RISK FOR THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL, THEY TOLD US AT THAT TIME IT WAS GONNA COST $15,000,845 TO DO THE BUILDING. AND WE ALL BALKED AT THAT PRICE AND SAID, WHOA, NO, THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH. AND THEY DID VALUE ENGINEERING AND GOT IT DOWN INTO THE TWELVES TO GET US BACK TO THE PRICE THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING IT. AND THAT PRICE KEPT INCREASING BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. AND THAT'S WHY IT ENDED UP GETTING CANCELED BECAUSE IT KEPT GOING UP AND UP AND NOBODY TRUSTED THAT IT WASN'T GONNA KEEP GOING UP. AT THE SAME TIME, THE THE BLOW THE UH, EXCUSE WAS GIVEN FOR C AND ALL THE DELAYS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE GONNA GET FOR COVID AND THE FEAR OF, OF THE TARIFFS THAT WERE JUST ABOUT TO BE, AND THEY WERE THROWING THAT IN IS THE COST. AND THE REASON FOR THAT, THE REASON I'M BRINGING ALL THIS UP NOW, WE'RE GOT 2 BILLION, TWO BUILDINGS THAT'RE GONNA COST A WHOLE, WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO GET DONE. AND, AND THE OBJECTION I HEARD ALL THE WAY ALONG BEFORE WE EVER BOUGHT THE COMERICA BUILDING WAS, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOO MUCH SPACE WHEN WE BUILD THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET. WELL, OTHER LARGE EXPENSES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION SINCE THEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IN TAKING OVER AS A CITY IN THE NEXT YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. AND I, I, HAVING BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS, AS THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE, JUST AS LONG AS I HAVE, TRAVIS LONGER THAN THAT, KNOW THAT IN FOUR YEARS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT $150 MILLION WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. SO I JUST, I CAN'T SUPPORT SPENDING THIS MONEY ON THAT BUILDING. WE OWN THE BUILDING, WE CAN USE IT, WE CAN LEASE IT, WE CAN DO WHATEVER ON IT, BUT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. WE NEED TO FINISH WHAT WE STARTED DOWNTOWN, GET THE DOWNTOWN FINISHED, AND GET IT LOOKING RIGHT AND USABLE AND FUNCTIONAL. WE ALREADY OWN ALL THE AIR CONDITIONERS, WE OWN THE, THE STEEL FOR IT, WE OWN THE ELEVATORS FOR IT. I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING. SO IT COULD BE VOTED ON BY THE FULL COUNCIL AND THAT'S FINE. UM, JUST TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. SURE. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 50% DESIGN ON THE CITY HALL. UH, THE INTENT IS BY SEPTEMBER THE 24TH, UH, 21ST MEETING, [00:20:01] UH, WE'LL HAVE 75% DESIGNS AND KEY CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ABLE TO GET US A BETTER PRICE ON IT. RIGHT NOW IT'S SITTING AT 15 MILLION. AND ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS THAT I FOUND FROM TURNER CONSTRUCTION, WHEN, WHEN WE, WE DECIDED NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH 'EM, THEIR LATEST PROPOSAL WAS 17 MILLION. UM, THE 15 MILLION THAT KEY CURRENTLY HAS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE PREPAID STEAL OR THE HVAC. AND SO THEY'RE DIGGING INTO THAT TO SEE WHAT WOULD COME OFF FROM THERE. UM, AND AT THIS POINT, IT'S MORE OF A THUMBNAIL GUESSTIMATE THAN IT IS A HARDCORE, THE 75% DESIGN WILL GIVE US A BETTER ESTIMATE, IN OTHER WORDS. SO I STILL THINK WE CAN PUT TOGETHER CITY HALL BACK TOGETHER AND STILL SAVE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED. I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT. RIGHT. UM, BUT SO FAR OUR ARCHITECTURE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, RBDR AND KEY CONSTRUCTION HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE ON THEIR ESTIMATES ON THE COMERICA BUILDING. SO THAT GIVES ME COMFORT AND PEACE THAT THERE'LL BE SO IN THE CITY HALL BUILDING AS WELL. UM, AGAIN, THAT'S NO GUARANTEE, UM, THAT Y'ALL WANT TO DELAY IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. I WILL REMIND THAT COUNCILMAN SER WON'T BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING. CORRECT. SO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE NEXT FULL COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 8TH. UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE MAYOR AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THIS OFF SOME, BUT IN, IN THE END, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN ATKINS WASN'T GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT. AND THERE'S BEEN SUCH A DELAY ON BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND, UM, SEE IF WE COULD GET BUY-IN ON IT. WE STILL THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM. UM, IT STILL GETS THE ENTIRE BUILDING, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE FOR AROUND 500 AND, UH, YEAH, LESS THAN $550 A SQUARE FEET, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE AND THE, UM, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE DEMOLITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. ALL, ALL THE ELECTRICAL AND ALL THE PLUMBING'S BEEN RIPPED OUTTA THE BUILDING AND IT'LL ALL BE PUT BACK. NO. UM, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IN PATCHWORKING. IT. UM, IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY IS, THERE'S ONLY TIME, ONE TIME TO DO IT IS DO IT RIGHT UP FRONT. IN OTHER OTHER WORDS, IF, IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE USE SOME OF THE OLD PIPING AND SOME OF THE OLD ELECTRICAL FACE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WOULD BE EVEN MORE COSTLY THAN THEY ARE NOW. UM, HAVING SAID THAT, IF THE COUNCIL'S MOST COMFORTABLE PUTTING IT OFF UNTIL, UH, IF, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT FULL COUNSEL HERE, THE BEST ESTIMATE I CAN HAVE IS SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, SINCE WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING ON THE SEVENTH BECAUSE IT BEING LABOR DAY. UM, WELL, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE FULL COUNCIL, IT'S JUST, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR BECAUSE I'M, I'M AT THE MOMENT STILL A NO VOTE AND WE CAN'T DO IT TONIGHT AT THAT VOTE. YEAH. THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL AND THE PLUMBING. 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T SURE THAT, IT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION AS TO WHY WHEN WE STOPPED THE CONTRACT WITH TURNER DOWNTOWN, WE STILL DIDN'T BUY THAT COMERICA BUILDING FOR MONTHS AFTER THAT. AND THEN WE MONTHS AFTER THAT, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL WITH THAT BUILDING. AND NOW WE'RE BYPASSING THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET TO GO BUILD ONE THAT HAS TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT YES, THEY WERE IN OUR FUTURE PLANS TO EVENTUALLY BUILD A BUILDING FOR THEM. BUT THE ONLY THING ON THE OTHER FLOOR IS MOVING UTILITY BILLING, WHICH IS IN A PLACE THAT'S WORKING PERFECTLY FINE AT THE MOMENT, FOR THE MOMENT IT WORKS FINE. AND THEN THE MUNICIPAL COURTS AND OURSELVES. SO WHY WE DON'T DO THE DOWNTOWN DOESN'T WORK FINE. IF YOU RECALL BACK TO, UH, THE BUDGET SESSIONS LAST YEAR, WE ALMOST COULDN'T ADD A POSITION 'CAUSE THEY HAD NOWHERE TO PUT 'EM. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUTTA SPACE. HAVE YOU BEEN IN THAT BUILDING? I HAVE BEEN. I GO IN THERE EVERY MONTH FOR THREE WATER BILLS. , I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S WORKING FOR WHAT IT NEEDS AT THE MOMENT DOWN THERE IN THE BUILDING. AND WHEN THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET GETS DONE, THEN WE'LL BE REARRANGING WHAT'S GOING ON. AND MR. SMITH, I WILL RECALL, I THINK YOU'LL AGREE WITH ME, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TOLD ME, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE INSIDE OF THAT BEATTY BUILDING AND HOW MUCH SPACE WE'RE WASTING IN THAT BUILDING AND OFFICES THAT IF WE ENGINEERED IT BETTER, WE COULD USE THE SPACE AND HAVE IT THERE? YEAH, IT'S GONNA COST MONEY, BUT YES. I MEAN, I, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT I AGREE. UM, SO I I I DO WANNA POINT OUT ON THE THIRD FLOOR THOUGH. YES. ISN'T THERE A, IT'S NOT AS BIG EITHER, SO NO, THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE COMERICA BUILDING ISN'T, THAT'S WHAT I TALKING ABOUT IST THERE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT OR 4,000 YEAH. THE OTHER FOOT CONFERENCE ROOM. YES. IT'S PART OF A TRAINING ROOM AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH IS ADDRESSES ANOTHER NEED THAT WE HAVE AS A BIG TRAINING ROOM THAT CAN BE USED BY ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS. UM, ANOTHER REASON FOR GOING IN AND ADDRESSING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS, UM, AS ANY, ALL THE DIRECTORS AND SO FORTH CAN ATTEST TO WHEN WE HAD [00:25:01] OUR, UH, BIG DRILL WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SOME, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT MONTH IT WAS IN PROBABLY AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THE PRESENT DAY EMERGENCY, UH, UH, EOC WAS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. WE WERE BASICALLY FALLING OVER EACH OTHER. UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A NEED TO VACATE SOME OFFICES. SO THIS WILL MOVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT INTO THIS BUILDING. UM, AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, UH, FIRE ADMINISTRATION IS COMPLETELY OUTTA ROOM. WE GOT GUYS IN CLOSETS OVER THERE, AND IT'S GONNA COST SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $8 MILLION TO BUILD A STANDALONE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER DEAL. UM, THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE COMERICA BUILDING ALSO IS ROUGHLY, I THINK IT'S AROUND 6,000 SQUARE FEET. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT. WHEREAS THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR ARE BASICALLY 11,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. AGAIN, IN ROUND NUMBERS. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT. UM, SO IT'S A MUCH SMALLER FLOOR, UH, TO FINISH OUT FOR THEM. THE MOBILE COMMAND UNIT TAKES CARE OF A SITUATION THAT'S OUT IN THE FIELD. BUT EVEN IF YOU HAVE, SAY, A TORNADO, YOU NEED THAT MOBILE COMMAND UNIT AND YOU STILL NEED A BASE STATION, AN EOC TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS. IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT TO TAKE CARE OF A FULL COUNTY NEED. NOW THE COUNTY HAS AN EOC, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, THEY'LL HAVE AN INCIDENT, YOU KNOW, NATURALLY. AND WE MAY HAVE TO JOIN FORCES AND WORK TOGETHER. AND, UH, CERTAINLY WE'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS WITH US. WHEN THEY, WHEN WE HAD THE TRAIN DERAILMENT, WE SET UP THE EOC THERE OR THEIR OPERATIONS THERE IN, IN THEIR, UH, CENTRAL OFFICE THAT THEY REMODELED FROM THE BAPTIST CHURCH. UM, AGAIN, I, I WOULD RECKON IF IT GIVES YOU THE MOST SOLACE AND SO FORTH, IF WE'RE GOING TO DELAY THIS, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT A FULL COUNSEL, AND IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT A BETTER ESTIMATE IS ON THE CITY HALL, WE CAN TABLE BOTH OF THEM UNTIL THE 21ST DAY OF SEPTEMBER. IT'S JUST GONNA DELAY THINGS. UH, MY MY DIRECTION WAS I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE KA AMERICA BUILDING GOING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND SO IT WAS PUSHED TO THE FOREFRONT, AND THAT'S WHAT I DIRECTED OUR ARCHITECTS TO DO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. PLUS THE CITY HALL. THE CITY HALL BUILDING, BEING A, A 1911 BUILDING AND A 1950 BUILDING AND ADDING A NEW BUILDING TO IT IS MORE COMPLICATED. AND SO IT NATURALLY WAS GONNA TAKE LONGER ANYWAY TO GET THE DESIGN JUST RIGHT AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKED TOGETHER AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THE COMERICA BUILDING IS AHEAD OF THE CITY HALL BUILDING. UM, BUT AGAIN, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO, IF, IF YOU WANNA TABLE IT AND YOU WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT BOTH BUILDINGS AT ONE TIME, I WOULD SUGGEST UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 21ST. BUT I, I, I APPRECIATE IT AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU'VE GIVEN AND, AND SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU GAVE FOR THE DIFFERENT THINGS IS WHEN WE HAD THOSE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS IS WHY I SAID OKAY, AND WENT ALONG WITH THE THING. AND THE REASON I'M HOLDING MY GROUND WHEN IT COMES TO, TO NOT VOTING FOR THIS TONIGHT MYSELF, IS BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF VOTES THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN UNANIMOUS VOTES. BUT I WAS DISAGREED. I DISAGREED WITH THE POINT OF THEM, AND I'VE VOTED, AND THEN MY CONSTITUENTS ARE COMING UP AND ASKING ME, WELL, YOU VOTED YES FOR IT. WELL, WHY'D YOU VOTE YES FOR IT? IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU FELT ABOUT IT, WHY'D YOU VOTE BEST FOR IT? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA PASS AND IT'S GONNA GO, AND I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO BE IN, IN UNITY ON IT. BUT WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE NEXT ITEM HERE IN A MINUTE WITH THE BUDGET, AND I'VE GOT OTHER QUESTIONS, AND IT WILL, IT WILL PUT A LITTLE MORE LIGHT ON WHY I AM SO NERVOUS ABOUT MONEY AT THE MOMENT. SO THANK YOU. WHAT DO WE HAVE BONDED FOR THESE? SO THE EXISTING BOND FOR CITY HALL, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED IN A MINUTE, UH, ON THE BOND, UH, VOTE FOR 2026 BOND SALE. SO I, I CAN DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW, WE STILL HAVE $11 MILLION IN THAT EXISTING BOND FROM THE ORIGINAL BOND FOR CITY HALL, CORRECT. CHAD, IS THAT, IS THAT ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBER? EXCUSE ME. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CHAIR COUNSEL. YEAH, WE ISSUED ABOUT $9 MILLION IN BONDS IN 2024 FOR THAT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. AND THEN WE ALSO FUNDED, UH, USED SOME GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, I BELIEVE FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION OR SO, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S SITTING AT ABOUT 11 MILLION. THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO, PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT ITEM ON THE BOND SALE, [00:30:01] UM, YOU KNOW, BACK ON JUNE THE FIRST CHAD COMES TO YOU, TELLS YOU, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT WE INTEND TO SELL UP TO $35.3 MILLION IN BONDS. WELL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN A MINUTE IT IS DOWN TO 22.2 MILLION. AND LAST YEAR, UH, WHEN THE CHANGE WAS MADE JUNE THE SECOND, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SELL 57.79 MILLION. AND, UM, WAIT A MINUTE. I, I MISSPOKE ON JUNE THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE 69.3 MILLION AND IT'S NOW 35.3, 69.3 DOWN TO 35.3. WHAT CAUSED THE DIFFERENCE? WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A PROCESS THROUGH CHAZ, UM, UH, GUIDANCE AND SO FORTH TO HAVE QUARTERLY CIP UPDATES, AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS FROM PAST BONDS. SO WE'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN OUR PROJECTS, WE'RE NOT STOPPING STREET PROJECTS OR WATER PROJECTS OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH THOSE. WE'RE UTILIZING BOND DOLLARS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR INSTEAD OF ISSUING BRAND NEW BONDS SURE. THAN WHEN WE HAVE MONEY SITTING AROUND. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. SO AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING DOWN FROM 69.3 TO 35.3. LAST YEAR WE WENT DOWN FROM 57.79 TO 22.2 FOR A COMBINED TOTAL, 69.59 MILLION. AND EACH MILLION COSTS YOU 80,000 A YEAR IN PAYMENTS. THAT'S $5.567 MILLION A YEAR. WE'RE CUTTING OUT IN PAYMENTS IN THE TWO YEARS COMBINED. AND OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD, THAT'S $111 MILLION. SO STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY, AND NOT JUST THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUT CERTAINLY WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP, BUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS PROVIDING THE NECESSARY INFORMATION AND, UM, SEEING THE, UH, VALIDITY OF THIS EXERCISE, UM, ALL THAT TOGETHER, THE HARD WORK OF STAFF HAS COME UP WITH THIS TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS $111 MILLION AND STILL ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE LAST YEAR. AND THIS YEAR, UM, EVEN, EVEN THE, UM, PROPOSED LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WE'RE NOT ISSUING NEW BONDS FOR THAT. SO EVEN IF Y'ALL DO GO FORTH THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE AGREE TO BUY IT, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO ISSUE NEW BONDS BECAUSE OF THE PRIOR BOND SAVINGS. YEAH. SO, AND I, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. I REALLY DO. AND THAT'S BEEN THE CONCERN I HAVE THAT THAT PART'S NOT A CONCERN OF IT BECAUSE I KNOW CHAD'S ALWAYS DONE THAT. SO PAID 'EM OFF EARLY WHEN WE CAN AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THAT BOND, THAT BOND GAP THERE, THAT WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO WHERE WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT TO KEEP THAT FROM GETTING TOO SMALL AND DO GREATLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY PUTS INTO THAT. YEAH. SO WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, THE WAY I RUN MY PERSONAL BUSINESS IS THE WAY I RUN CITY BUSINESS. I TRY TO GET THE BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR SO WE CAN NOT ONLY DO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND DO IT BETTER, BUT DO MORE. BUT, AND I WOULD NEVER GUIDE THIS COUNCIL, UH, TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD HURT US FINANCIALLY. I'VE WORKED WITH CHAD AND HIS STAFF HAND IN HAND THROUGH ALL THESE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT WE'RE BITING OFF TOO MUCH AT ONE TIME. HAVING SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION, IF WE NEED TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL AGAIN, THE 21ST OF SEPTEMBER OR BEFORE THAT DATE, UH, I'M MORE THAN FINE WITH THAT, WITH DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER. IT, IT IS JUST THAT IT IS GOING TO DELAY THE PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER OF THE EIGHT 20 FERRIS BUILDING. I SHOULDN'T KEEP SAYING COMERICA, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW IT AS. BUT, UH, OF COURSE THE EIGHT 20 FERRIS BUILDING, OH, GO AHEAD. SORRY. UH, COUNCILMAN ROD, ARE ARE, ARE YOU JUST A NO ON THIS, REGARDLESS, THERE'S, THERE'S NO PATH. NOT TONIGHT. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ANSWERED. NOT TONIGHT. OKAY. WELL, WHY'D I ASK IF ANYBODY HAS A, IF THERE THERE'S A MOTION TO BE MADE? I WILL YES, SIR. ENTERTAIN IT. MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, I HEREBY MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM AGENDA ITEM 11 REGARDING THE KEY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, UH, TO MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, SO AS TO ADDRESS, UH, COUNCILMAN WRIGHT'S CONCERNS, BUT ALSO PROVIDE AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY [00:35:01] AS POSSIBLE TO EVERYONE AS WITNESSED BY WHAT, UH, CHIEF, THE INFORMATION CHIEF BOYD IS PROVIDED AS TONIGHT. I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, A LONG MEANDERING MOTION, BUT AND BY THEN YOU SAID WE WOULD HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE OTHER MOST LIKELY NO, NO, WE WON'T HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. WE'LL HAVE A 75% ESTIMATE, WHICH IS MUCH MORE SOLID THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. NOW, BEFORE Y'ALL VOTE ON THIS, I DO WANT TO ASK KEY CONSTRUCTIONS HERE. SO IF YOU CAN STEP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE, SIR. UM, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK INTO THIS, THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, HOW LONG IS THAT GOOD FOR BEFORE WE SIGN A CONTRACT? UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR 90 DAYS. 90 DAYS NOW. I WAS PRETTY SURE OF THAT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS DELAY WOULD NOT JEOPARDIZE THAT GOING UP. CORRECT, YEAH. AND KNOW ALSO THAT WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH SOME VALUE ENGINEERING. WE STILL HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOWER IT FROM THAT. UM, THERE'S SOME ISSUES OF, UH, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, ELECTRICAL FEEDER WIRES THAT COULD COME INTO THE BUILDING THAT COULD SAVE ANOTHER TWO AND A QUARTER. UH, YEAH, IT WAS A SIZABLE, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ALTERNATE SIZING OF THE GENERATOR TOO. UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO GENERATORS IN PARALLEL, AND IF WE CAN UPSIZE AND GO TO A SINGLE GENERATOR, SHRINKS A FOOTPRINT. UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LITTLE AUXILIARY STORAGE BUILDING RIGHT THERE THAT'S GONNA GO AWAY, AND THAT'LL BE WHERE THE GENERATOR GOES. SO, UM, ONE ITEM TOO THAT WAS LEFT OUT IS, UH, IN THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE THAT DOES REPLACE ALL OF THE, THE DATED PAVING THAT'S GOT SOME ISSUES TOO ON THE SITE. YEAH. WHICH HAS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AS WELL. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T JEOPARDIZE THE GMP THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO, UH, WITH THAT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, MOVE ITEM 11 TO THE SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026 DATE IS, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, SIR. MOVES [12. Consideration and action taken on an ordinance providing for the issuance of City of Waxahachie, Texas, Combination Tax and Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2026; levying an annual ad valorem tax and providing for the security for and payment of said Certificates; approving the Official Statement; and ordaining other matters relating to the subject ] US TO ITEM 12, UH, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TAKEN ON AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE COMBINATION TAX AND COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2026 LEVYING AN ANNUAL AD THEORUM TAX, BLESS YOU. AND PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY FOR AND PAYMENT OF SAID CERTIFICATES APPROVING THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT AND ORDAINING OTHER MATTERS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT, CHAD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR PROAM. GOOD EVENING. UH, JUST SOME BACKGROUND FOR THIS ITEM. UH, THE CIP, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IT'S, UH, DESCRIBES THE CITY'S LARGE MULTI-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. UM, IT INCLUDES STREET PROJECTS, SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, UM, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, WATER AND WASTEWATER, UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, AND MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. UM, SO JUST AS, AS FAR AS KIND OF TAKING US BACK A LITTLE BIT ON APRIL 15TH, UH, STAFF PRESENTED THE CIP, UH, AND FUNDING STRATEGY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP. AND ONE OF THOSE FUNDING MECHANISMS AMONGST ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, WAYS TO FUND, UH, THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS WAS ISSUING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. UM, THE, UH, THE BOND ISSUANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, RICKY HAD MENTIONED THIS OR THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, MENTIONED THIS. WE STARTED OUT WITH 11 PROJECTS AT 69.3 MILLION. UM, THE BOND ISSUANCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT WAS PRICED THIS MORNING, UM, IS, UH, FIVE PROJECTS, UM, AGAIN FOR 35.3 MILLION. UH, THAT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, AND RENO, UM, AND RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION ONE, UH, THE RENOVATION OF THE FACILITY THAT, UH, WAS JUST BEING SPOKEN ABOUT. UM, AND THEN, UH, THREE WATER REHAB PROJECTS, ONE FOR THE, THE SOUTH PRONG DAM. UM, AND THEN JUST WATER REHAB PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, AND THEN OF THAT, UH, OF THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, 23.3 MILLION IS SUPPORTED BY, BY THE VALOREM, UH, TAX REVENUE AND THE CITY'S CURRENT TAX RATE AND $12 MILLION IS SUPPORTED BY THE WATER UTILITY RATES. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE AN INCREASE IN THE CITY'S OVERALL TAX RATE. SO THE ISSUE TONIGHT, UH, THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH THE NECESSARY POSTING REQUIREMENTS, UH, STARTING BACK IN JUNE WHEN THE NOTICE OF INTENT, UH, WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, WE'VE MET WITH, UH, RATING AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THEY'VE AFFIRMED OUR, UM, OUR INVESTMENT GRADE RATING OF AA AND, UH, AA TWO BY THE, BY THE MAJOR RATING AGENCIES. AND SO I'LL JUST MENTION, 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR THE CITY AS A, AS A WHOLE DOING, WELL, THE COUPLE THINGS THAT THEY CITED OF THAT, THAT THE CITY CAN CONTROL IS A STRONG, UH, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND, UH, HISTORY OF, OF STRONG FINANCIAL RESERVES AS WELL. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, TODAY'S ACTION WOULD TAKE THE FINAL STEP TO ADOPT, UH, THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE, UH, THE SALE, UM, AND THE ISSUANCE. UM, I'LL MENTION [00:40:01] AS WELL, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE WAY WE WENT ABOUT THE PROCESS, UM, THIS MORNING WE RECEIVED EIGHT BIDS, UH, TO, TO, UM, BUY OUR BONDS, WHICH, WHICH IS VERY STRONG AND VERY COMPETITIVE, UH, IN THE MARKET. AND THE TRUE INTEREST COST CAME IN AT 4.28%. AND SO TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO, UH, WE'VE BEEN ESTIMATING BETWEEN, UH, INTERNALLY 4.5 TO 5%. SO, UH, IT'S A POSITIVE, UH, IT'S SOME POSITIVE SAVINGS ON THAT. UM, SO TODAY'S ACTION, AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, WOULD TAKE THAT FINAL STEP UPON APPROVAL. WE WOULD EXPECT FUNDS TO ARRIVE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, UH, JUST PRIOR TO THE START OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO ALSO, UH, KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES THANK, UH, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UH, MARTY SHU, SHE'S IN THE BACK THERE, UH, AND HER TEAM WITH TELL TOP SECURITIES AND AS WELL, AND AS ALSO OUR BOND ATTORNEY, OUR BOND COUNSEL, COOPER ANDERSON, UH, WITH MCCALL PARKERSON HORTON, UH, TO ANSWER, QUICK TO ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS AND REALLY KEEP US ON TRACK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT STEPS AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO, TO, TO PASS THESE BONDS. UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE AS WELL AS, UH, MARTY FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. CHAD, I'D LIKE YOU TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, AS IT RELATES TO OUR RATING. TELL US HOW SPECIAL, AND SO PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE OR PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING, HOW SPECIAL THAT IS TO HAVE SUCH A HIGH RATING. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CONSIDERED HIGH INVESTMENT GRADE AND UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT A CITY CAN'T CONTROL AND THE CITY'S THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN'T CONTROL. AND THEY GAVE US A REPORT CARD, KIND OF WHERE WE STAND IN EACH OF THESE MAJOR METRICS. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE MAJOR METRICS AND THE ONES THAT WE CAN CONTROL WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB AND WE'RE COMMENDED ON THOSE. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE SUPER HIGH INCOME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, INDUSTRIES THAT ARE DRIVING SOME OF THE, UM, THE HOUSEHOLD INCOMES AND WHATNOT. BUT, UM, FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN DO, WE'RE IN THE HIGHEST TIER. YOU KNOW, IT GOES UP TO AAA OBVIOUSLY, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO GET TO. BUT WE'RE ARE IN THE HIGHEST, UH, TIER OF THE HIGH INVESTMENT GRADE, WHICH IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. NOT ONLY THE CITY STAFF, BUT OF COURSE CITY COUNCIL AND THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, GETTING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THANK YOU, SIR. HE TOOK THE HUMBLEST ROUTE TO GET YOU FINALLY GET TO SAYING WE ARE SUPER PROUD OF. HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB OF THE GREAT JOB YOU GUYS DO IN KEEPING US IN THE HIGHEST BOND RATING AND WARNING US IF WE'RE DOING STUPID THINGS THAT ARE GONNA TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT BAD, WHICH WE'VE NEVER, YOU'VE NEVER TOLD US WE WERE DUMB FOR DOING SOMETHING. YOU, YOU'VE WARNED US THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TIGHT SOMETIMES IF WE DID CERTAIN THINGS. THAT BEING SAID, ONE TIME, YOU'VE TOLD ME A LONG TIME AGO, AND SEVERAL TIMES YOU'VE REITERATED IT OVER THE YEARS WHEN WE, WHEN WE START DIGGING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, THAT WE WANNA BE CAREFUL HOW OFTEN WE GO DIGGING INTO THE GENERAL FUND DECK. 'CAUSE THAT'LL AFFECT OUR BOND RATING GOING FORWARD AFTER THIS BUDGET THAT WE'VE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND THE AMOUNT WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE TO COVER TO MAKE IT RIGHT. HOW MANY MONTHS, HOW, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY ALWAYS GIVE US HOW MANY MONTHS WORTH OF YEAH. BOND OR WHATEVER. LOOK HOW, HOW BIG IS OUR GENERAL FUND? YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IN MONTHS OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GFOA, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER ASSOCIATION, THEY LIKE TO USE PERCENTAGES. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCIAL POLICY MAKES, YOU KNOW, WANTS US TO HAVE 25% MINIMUM, UH, RESERVE LEVEL. AND RIGHT NOW IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE PROJECTING IN THE 2027 BUDGET TO END 2027, UM, RIGHT AROUND 43, 40 4%. AND THAT'S AFTER, AFTER WE'VE TAKEN ANYTHING WE WERE GONNA TAKE OUT OF IT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S EVERY, THAT'S, THAT'S AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, HAD THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON JUNE 22ND. YOU KNOW, AND I DID MENTION AT THE TIME, AND IT'S STILL THE CASE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT CITIES ARE HAMPERED BY, UH, THE ABILITY TO RAISE REVENUE. AND SO WE HAVE TO JUST BE COGNIZANT OF THAT WITH WHAT WE MIGHT BE ADDING IN THE FUTURE. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS IS FOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DRAWING DOWN THAT FUND BALANCE TOO MUCH. UM, WE ARE STRUCTURALLY BALANCED GOING INTO 2027. SO AGAIN, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OUR RECURRING REVENUE IS COVERING OUR RECURRING EXPENSE. UM, AND IT'S THOSE RECURRING EXPENSES THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE TRICKIER IN THE FUTURE. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST REVISIT EACH YEAR WITH COUNSEL BEFORE THESE BIG DECISIONS ARE MADE ON WHAT MIGHT BE ADDED OR WHAT MIGHT NOT BE ADDED, UH, TO THE BUDGET. THE, SO THE REASON I ASK YOU, AND I'LL BRING THAT UP AND MENTION IT, IS THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE, THE CIP THAT WE WERE GIVEN. ONE WAS SIX FIREMEN WITH THE INTENTION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO FOUR MEN ON A TRUCK, WHICH IS THE, THE NORM AND WHAT THE STANDARD. AND WE'VE NEVER REALLY EVER, IT'S NOT THE STANDARD THAT'S ABOVE, THAT'S WELL, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN REQUESTED. YES. SAFETY. AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAID, SAFETY, THAT'S WHAT IT SAID ON THERE WAS SIX MAN STAFFING OR FOUR MAN STAFFING. [00:45:02] BUT THEN AT THE BACK AND THE UNFUNDED PART, IT SHOWED WE'D APPLIED, APPLIED FOR A SAFER GRANT FOR 12 MORE FIREMEN AND THE SAFER GRANT WOULD PAY FOR 75%. OR IS IT CHIEF, COULD YOU TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT IT PAYS? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA GET IT WRONG. YEAH, IT PAYS 75% THE FIRST TWO YEARS AND 30, 35% THE THIRD YEAR. SO IT PAYS THAT. SO IF, IF WE GET THAT GRANT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT GRANT IF WE DO GET IT UNTIL AFTER WE PASS THIS BUDGET. SO I CAN'T FIND, AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND WHERE WE HAD A PLAN, HOW WE WERE GONNA BUDGET, HOW WE WERE PAYING THAT. 'CAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE EIGHT, 840 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE 25% WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE FIRST TWO YEARS. CHIEF SAFFORD, UM, AND REMIND ME IF I'M WRONG, THE SIX FIREMEN THAT YOU APPROVED WITHOUT THE GRANT, RIGHT? RIGHT. IS ROUGHLY EIGHT 40. YES, SIR. AND I THINK IF WE TAKE THE GRANT AND REALLY THEN IT BECOMES 18, IT'S NOT 18 PLUS THE SIX, IT'S TOTAL OF 18. IT'S 12 AND SIX. YES. 900,000 ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME. A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. IT'S NOT, IT, IT WILL COST THE TAXPAYERS 900,000 INSTEAD OF 840. AND THESE ARE ROUND NUMBERS. I DIDN'T BRING THOSE THINGS. UH, I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH NUMBERS IN MEMORY, BUT THAT'S THE BEST THEY CAN DO RIGHT NOW. WELL, THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR IT'S 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET. BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED THAT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT. THAT THAT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET CORRECT AT ALL. THIS BUDGET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO COUNCIL TO PUT IT IN THIS YEAR. COUNCILMAN WRIGHT, I WOULD ASK THAT WE NOT BRING THINGS FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION TO THE OPEN FLOOR. ALRIGHT. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT AN INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, BUT I'D ALSO EX EXPECT THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSING PEOPLE'S MONEY THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY IN TAXES BACK THERE INSTEAD OF OUT HERE. WELL, IN CHECK. UNLESS IT'S, UNLESS IT'S A LEGAL THING THAT HE, THAT THE LAWYER HAS TO HAVE A REASON FOR. WELL, HE'S IN THERE WITH US. SO I THINK HE'S IN THERE. HIM BEING IN THE ROOM DOESN'T MAKE EVERYTHING IN THERE ALL OF A SUDDEN A GREAT THING TO BE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S NOTHING NEFARIOUS THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. BE ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW TOO. SO YES, YES, THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. I DON'T HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT. AND, AND SHAQ CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN FOR THAT OTHER EXPENSE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MET NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THIS ISSUE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TIMES. AND AGAIN, I WOULD NEVER PROPOSE TO YOU SOMETHING THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE WELFARE OF THIS CITY. I LIVE HERE, I PAY TAXES HERE. UM, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE IT IN THE PAPER UNDER MY LEADERSHIP THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO FURLOUGHS OR ROLLBACKS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO, SO WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE THE OTHER AMENITIES AND THE OTHER THINGS. WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CITIZENS NOW. WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THINGS AND CUT THEM ALL BACK TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO ITEM 12, THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. ON, ON THE BOND ISSUANCE FOR THE FIVE PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE FIRE STATION ONE, UH, THREE WATER REHAB PROJECTS AND MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 'CAUSE IT SAYS A TAX RATE OF 61 CENTS AND TO COVER THE OTHER EXPENSE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD INCREASE THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS TOO LATE FOR US TO DO THAT, BUT WE, WE'VE EVEN PASSED THIS, THIS ISN'T SETTING THE TAX RIGHT. THIS, AND MAYBE I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, PUTTING IT FORWARD. MAYBE I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE TAX RATE'S DIVIDED UP IN THE TWO COMPONENTS. THE, THE DEBT RATE, AND THAT'S THE FIRST ONE KIND OF THAT HAS TO GO WITH THIS. THE, WE SET A TAX RATE ON THE DEBT SIDE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR OUR DEBT OBLIGATIONS. SURE. AND THAT INCLUDES THIS ISSUANCE AS WELL. YOU KNOW, THESE, THIS IS THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING, PAYING NEXT YEAR. AND THAT COMES OUT TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 21 CENTS, I FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, AND THEN THAT GETS ADDED TO THE OTHER PORTION, WHICH IS, UM, OUR, OUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE ON THE M AND O SIDE TIMES HOWEVER MUCH PERCENTAGE WE CAN GO UP TO 3.5%. AND SO ON THE NEXT ITEM IS WHEN WE WOULD TALK ABOUT KIND OF THAT TAX RATE AND, AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS YES. UH, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS 2061 THANK YOU. MOTION. I WOULD LOVE A MOTION. COUNCILMAN SUITER. OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF WAXAHACHIE, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION [00:50:01] SERIES 2026, ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES AND DELEGATING AUTHORITY FOR THE SALE AND DELIVERY OF THE CERTIFICATES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. 'CAUSE I APOLOGIZE. I JUMPED AHEAD OF ONE. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SIRS. IT BRINGS US TO ITEM [13. Consider setting Proposed Tax Rate and Dates for Public Hearing ] 13, UH, CONSIDER SETTING PROPOSED TAX RATE AND DATES FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CHAD, BACK TO YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR PROTI. SO AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS, UH, CHAPTER 26 OF THE PROPERTY TAX CODE, UH, REQUIRES CERTAIN STEPS, UH, FOR A CITY TO TAKE CERTAIN STEPS PRIOR TO HOLDING, UH, A HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND ADOPTING A TAX RATE. AND SO THIS ITEM TODAY OR TONIGHT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL TO SET THE PROPOSED RATE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION, SET THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE AND TIME AND PLACE AN ITEM ON A FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE NECESSARY TO FUND THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET. SO PRETTY MUCH JUST GIVES US AUTHORITY TO GO TO THE NEWSPAPER AND POST, UH, POST A HEARING NOTICE FY 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES A PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 61 CENTS. IT, UH, REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE PRIOR YEAR AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE A RECORD VOTE, UH, TO PROPOSE, UH, THAT VALOREM TAX RATE OF 61 CENTS, UH, AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST AT 5:30 PM AND AGAIN, UH, THIS IS A RECORD VOTE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. AND SO THE, AND IF I CAN'T, UH, A RECORD VOTE IS THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS THE CALL FOR CORRECT. EACH INDIVIDUAL, CORRECT? YES, SIR. STATE CASE. SO THAT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU SAID I WAS ONE AHEAD. MM-HMM . SO THAT, TO BRING US BACK TO, RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, 'CAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE AND, AND WHEN WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS IS JUST SETTING A DATE, I REALIZE THAT. SO CAN, CAN WE SCHEDULE A MEETING, A WORKSHOP TO WHERE WE CAN SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN GIVE US THE, THE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO COUNCIL ON HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND THAT STUFF WITHOUT A TAX RATE INCREASE BEFORE WE HAVE THE ACTUAL VOTE ON THE TAX INCREASE? WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS NOT COME IN HERE THE DATE THAT WE GOTTA VOTE ON IT AND STILL NOT KNOW HOW THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GONNA AFFECT THE EXPENSES ARE GONNA BE PAID FOR. WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS SETS THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT WILL BE HAVE A SECOND HEARING AND IS JUST FOLLOWING THE LAW. THIS IS ACTUALLY SETTING THE TAX RATE AT THIS TIME IS SETTING A MAXIMUM. IT CAN BE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE CITY COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT MONTH WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ANY OTHER WORK SESSIONS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE, UM, IT CAN COME DOWN FROM THAT 61 CENTS. EACH COMPONENT SEPARATELY CAN COME DOWN. WE CANNOT GO UP THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THIS MEETING, WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND REALIZE, OH, THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT AFFECTING OTHER THINGS IS WE NEED THE TAX RATE TO BE THIS. WELL, AND, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE SAID IT'S THIS. WE COULD HAVE IT THERE AND THEN COME DOWN, BUT WE CAN'T HERE AND GO UP. WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR ON THIS TOO. SO I TALKED ABOUT THOSE TWO COMPONENTS, THE DEBT RATE AND THE M AND O RATE. THE M AND O RATE. RIGHT NOW, THE WAY I HAVE IT SET AT 61 CENTS TO, TO MAKE 61 CENTS THE TAX RATE UNCHANGED IS WE REDUCED THE M AND O THE INS RATE JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND, UM, ONE OF OUR PRACTICE, WE'VE INCREASED THE M AND O RATE UP TO THAT 3.5% LIMIT. SURE. SO EVEN IF COUNCIL WANTED TO GO ABOVE THAT M AND O RATE, WE'RE CAPPED OUT AT THIS POINT WITH THE, WITH THE 61 CENTS. BUT WE COULD, SO THE ONLY WAY WE WAY WE COULD GO ABOVE THAT THREE POINT A HALF PERCENT IS ALLOW AN ELECTION ALLOWED OR NOT ISSUE EVENTUALLY OR NOT ISSUE THE, THE NEW DEBT, RIGHT? NO, WE, NO, NO. 'CAUSE WELL, BECAUSE THEN WE COULD BRING THE INS DOWN, I WOULD JUST BRING THE INS DOWN. IT WOULDN'T MESS WITH THE M AND O SIDE AT ALL. SO IT WOULD JUST LOWER THE OVERALL TAX RATES. SO COULD, SO WHAT WHAT HE SAYING IS THE MO IF WE LOWER THE INS NO, NO, BECAUSE THE M AND O IS WHAT'S CAPPED AT THREE. YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT 'EM AS COMPLETELY SEPARATE ITEMS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IN THE PAST YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE, BUT WITH SB TWO YOU'RE REALLY JUST CAPPED HARD ON THAT THREE AND A HALF. SO I THINK, I THINK A QUESTION IF I CAN FOR COUNCILMAN WRIGHT, DO WE HAVE TO PASS THIS TONIGHT? UM, IS THIS LIKE THE DEADLINE TO DO THIS PORTION OF IT TONIGHT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. IWI WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO IT TONIGHT JUST BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF AT THE MAXIMUM, UM, NOT JUST THE MAXIMUM THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD SET, BUT JUST THE MAXIMUM OVERALL THAT WE, WE, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET TO GOING UP TO THAT THREE AND A HALF TECHNICALLY. COULD WE, COULD WE COME, UH, COULD WE MOVE THIS TO A DIFFERENT DATE? [00:55:01] THE ONLY THING I'M AWARE OF IS THE STATUTE, UH, REQUIRES THE CITY TO, UH, UH, LIKE STAFF TO PRESENT OR ME TO PRESENT THE TAX RATE TO YOU IN A FORMAL SETTING. AND THE COUNCIL APPROVE IT BY, I THINK IT'S, UH, AUGUST 7TH OR AS SOON AS PRAC, UH, AS SOON AS PRACTICAL AFTER THAT DATE, I THINK IS WAY, THE WAY THE THING. SO WHETHER THAT'S THE 17TH, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING THAT'S CALLED, UM, BUT IT REALLY WOULDN'T CHANGE FROM THE 61 CENTS UNLESS THE COUNCIL WANTED TO COME BACK AND LOWER THAT 61 CENTS TO A LOWER AMOUNT. BUT AGAIN, EVEN IF WE LOWERED IT, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THEM ON OH, RATE, RIGHT? WELL WE COULD AND, AND THE COUNCIL COULD DECIDE INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO THREE AND A HALF, YOU COULD GO TO, UM, TWO, ONE, GO TO, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING BACK DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE. I I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE PAGE THE SAME PAGE. YEAH. I DON'T WANNA RAISE ANYBODY'S TAXES AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES, BUT IT KEEPS IT AT 61. BUT TO PAY FOR THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT GOING INTO ANY MORE DETAIL. 'CAUSE I, I'M GONNA RESPECT WHAT MR. SMITH ASKED AND NOT GOING ANY MORE DETAIL. 'CAUSE THE THINGS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT IN THIS BUDGET AT ALL, BUT WE'RE PASSING THE BUDGET FOR THAT WHOLE YEAR AND I'M BEING TOLD THE OTHER MIGHT HAPPEN. SO I SAID THAT I COULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO LET THE VOTERS COME OUT AND SAY THEY WANTED TO PAY 4 CENTS OR 5 CENTS OR FOUR, 3 CENTS OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT WOULD BE TO PAY FOR THAT. BUT NOW THIS DOESN'T GIVE THAT OPTION. YES. SO I WANNA MAKE IT OBVIOUS AND CLEAR AND A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL. I WANNA KNOW WHAT, HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND IT. COUNCILMAN WRIGHT, IF I'M VOTING ON IT, I, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE OFF, UM, BUT THE, THE ONGOING COST OF ANY, OF ANY ACTION WOULD BE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. IT WOULDN'T BE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET ACT. ACTUALLY, SOME OF IT WOULD ON THE PROPOSAL, BUT NOT ENOUGH OF IT TO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALL OF IT. WE HAVE 43% OF OPERATING COSTS. YES. SO, SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THERE. SO ANY UPFRONT COST, UM, WE COULD EAT. UM, I ALSO DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ANY SUPPORT FROM THE, I MEAN, AT LEAST NOT FROM ME, AND I'VE HEARD HOW TRACE HAS SAID IT PUBLICLY. UH, MAYOR WALLACE HAS SAID IT SAID IT THE SAME WAY. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A VOTE TO RAISE THE TAX RATE. WELL, I MEAN, LIKE A VOTE IN SUPPORT. I WAS GONNA SAY WE'RE NOT VOTING TO READ. YEAH. SO WE WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE VOTING TO RAISE THE TAX RATE. WE WOULD BE VOTING TO LET THE, THE TAX PAYERS CHOOSE IF THEY WANNA FUND WHATEVER THAT IS. THAT BEING SAID, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THAT I STAND ALONE OVER HERE IN THIS DARK, DARK, DARK CORNER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE MY ENTIRE LIFE AND NOT KNOWING HOW SOMETHING'S GONNA BE PAID FOR WHEN IT'S BEEN PUT, PUT THERE IN FRONT OF ME. SO IF Y'ALL WANNA GO AHEAD WITH THIS MOTION AND, AND DO IT, WE GOING PASS. YEAH, I DO. WE'RE GONNA DO THE TAX RATE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA MEET ON WEDNESDAY, AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, I ALSO DO WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT SETTING THE BUDGET TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. AND SO, EVEN THOUGH ITEMS MISSING DATE TONIGHT, THAT, THAT, THAT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT BEING ACTED UPON TONIGHT. THIS PASSING THE 61 CENT MAXIMUM TAX RATE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE, THAT THAT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF WILL BE ENACTED. SURE. AND AGAIN, IF THE MAJORITY OF COUNSEL WANTS TO, OR COUNSEL WANTS TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ONE-ON-ONES OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO GO OVER THE FACTS AND FIGURES. I MEAN, A HUNDRED PERCENT. I'M AS TRANSPARENT AS I CAN POSSIBLY BE. I, I THOUGHT WE EXPLAINED IT HOW IT WAS GONNA FUND IT, BUT, AND MAYBE I WOULDN'T CLEAR IT CLEAR ENOUGH WITH THAT, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I WASN'T. UM, UM, I'M VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR, IN OUR PLAN, UH, BUT THIS DOES NOT SET THE BUDGET. IT, IT JUST MERELY SETS THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE, WHICH IS COMPLYING WITH THE LAW ON THE TIMING ISSUES. I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE HAVE TO FUND ANYTHING, WE CAN ALSO, WE, WE, IT, WE ALSO HAVE TIME TO ADJUST THE BUDGET BEFORE WE PASS THAT. YEAH, THAT'S THE EXACT POINT. MAYOR PRO TEM, LIKE ANYTHING AFTER THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UM, AND EVEN IF IT COMES AFTER ANYTHING COMES AFTER THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, AS COUNSEL KNOWS TO AMEND THE BUDGET, UM, IS NEEDED TO FUND ANY PROGRAM THAT IT WANTS TO DO. WELL, AND NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE IDEA OF INCREASING THE TAX RATE, IT'S GOING IN AND CHANGING WHAT WE HAVE, WHERE [01:00:01] WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM SOME THINGS THAT WE EXACTLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. YES. THERE'S REALLY TWO COMPONENTS OF THAT. I, I, AND AS, AS I HOPE COUNSEL SMITH CAN, CAN APPRECIATE, I'M TRYING MY DARNEDEST TO BRING UP MY POINT WITH NOW GOING INTO ALL THE, THE SPIDER WEBS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND I APOLOGIZE TO YOU GUYS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING, IT'S PERSONNEL AND CONTRACTS. YEAH. IT'S LIMITED TO WHAT WE CAN DISCLOSE RIGHT NOW. SO THANK YOU. BUT I JUST DID WANT TO NO, I UNDERSTAND. YES. HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT OTHER COMPONENT OF IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WITH ALL OF THAT DISCUSSION, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. OKAY. I MOVE TO CONSIDER OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 61 CENTS AND SET THE DATE, TIME, AND PLACE FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST AT 5:30 PM AT THE WAXAHATCHEE CIVIC CENTER. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN. OH, WE HAVE TO DO, OH, WE HAVE, YEP. YEAH, SO WE'LL START TO, AM I RIGHT? YOU GOTTA CALL MY NAME COUNCILMAN WRIGHT . YAY. COUNCILMAN SUITER. YES. AND MYSELF. COUNCILMAN SMITH. YAY. UH, PASSES THREE. OH, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT TAKES TO [14. Consider agreement between Ellis County Woman’s Building Board of Trustees and the City of Waxahachie ] ITEM 14, CONSIDER AGREEMENT BETWEEN ELLIS COUNTY WOMAN'S BUILDING BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE, CITY MANAGER BOYD. YEAH. SO, UM, FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE ELLIS COUNTY, UH, WOMEN'S, UH, BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO FORMALIZE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD OVER THE, WITH THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. A LOT OF THIS IS IN WITH THE INTENTION OF, UH, THEY KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO MAKE REPAIRS AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT AND THAT SORT OF THING. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN OUR ATTORNEYS AND THEIRS. UM, WE THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO BOTH PARTIES. UH, THIS IS A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE OPTIONAL, UH, UH, THREE YEAR EXTENSIONS THEREAFTER. UM, LAST FRIDAY, UM, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES VOTED TO APPROVE IT. AND, UH, I THINK THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALL SEEN THIS, UH, AGREEMENT AND IT IS AS IT WAS THAT DAY THAT, THAT, UH, IT WAS SHARED WITH Y'ALL. AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS THIS AGREEMENT AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE NECESSITY FOR THIS AGREEMENT WAS MADE QUITE EVIDENT LESS THAN A YEAR AGO WHEN THERE WAS CERTAIN, UH, UH, PROPOSED RENOVATIONS AND WORK DONE TO THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN SMITH PUT A TON OF WORK INTO TO DIGGING INTO THAT. I KNOW CHIEF BOY DID. AND THIS JUST CLARIFIES IT SO WE DON'T, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO'S RESPONSIBILITY IT IS AND, AND WHERE FUNDING COMES FROM. SO DON'T FORGET, SEAN, SEAN PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS TOO. WELL, I'M JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO LOOK AT ME AND GIVE ME THE EVIL EYE THAT I DIDN'T MENTION HIS NAME, BUT . BUT THIS IS A GOOD THING TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, UM, TO MEMORIALIZE THE AGREEMENT FOR 10 YEARS. DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT FOR THE WOMEN'S BUILDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE AND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE ELLIS COUNTY WOMEN'S BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, TENANT A TEXAS NONPROFIT CORPORATION AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. GREAT WORK AND THANK YOU KATHLEEN. UH, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK IN DIGGING IN ON THIS. THANK YOU. UH, TAKES [15. Public Hearing on the establishment of City of Waxahachie Reinvestment Zone #33 at 3700 N. Interstate 35E, Waxahachie, Texas ] US TO ITEM 15, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE REINVESTMENT. ZONE NUMBER 33 AT 3,700 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS, CASANDRA CARROLL. HI, UM, COUNCILMAN, I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, DISCUSSED BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY EARLIER THAN THE YEAR. AND WE HAVE FINALLY GOT THE PROJECT, UM, IRONED OUT AND EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO. SO, UH, I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UH, AN EXPANSION PROPOSED BY OWENS CORNING. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND TO PROVIDE THE TAX ABATEMENT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO ESTABLISH THAT, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONE, UH, FOR THEIR PROPERTY AT 3,700 NORTH. UH, I 35, [01:05:02] ALSO KNOWN AS PROPERTY ID 1 8 0 4 4 1. AS YOU KNOW, UH, OWENS CORNING HAS BEEN HERE SINCE ABOUT 1960 AND IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST TAXPAYERS HERE IN THE, IN THE, UM, CITY. SO, UM, ONCE WE GET THE REINVESTMENT ZONE, UH, PASSED AND THIS RESOLUTION OR THIS ORDINANCE TAKEN CARE OF, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER OPTIONS. THEY ARE PROPOSING ABOUT A CLOSE TO A $60 MILLION PROJECT NOW, UH, FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SOME OF THEIR PRODUCTION LINES, AS WELL AS SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF, OF SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, OBSOLETE PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO, UM, EMPLOYMENT WILL REMAIN THE SAME, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME UPSKILLING FOR THE EXISTING EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RUN THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT IS, UH, GONNA BE IN PLACE. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THIS, WE DO HAVE, UH, GEORGE FRANCIS HERE WITH CHF CONSULTING AND KEVIN WARD, PLANT MANAGER OF OWENS CORNING. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO, UM, PROPOSE THAT ORDINANCE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. CASSANDRA. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE SET UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. UH, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH MOVES US TO ITEM 16. [16. Consider proposed Ordinance designating a certain area within the taxing jurisdiction of the City of Waxahachie to be known as Reinvestment Zone #33; establishing the boundaries thereof; and providing for an effective date] CONSIDER PROPOSED, CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE TAXING JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF W HATCHEE TO BE KNOWN AS REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 33, ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES THEREOF AND PROVIDING FOR AN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ANY DISCUSSION OR ACTION? I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION. HMM. YOU ? I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION. DO YOU WANT A MOTION? CAN WE OUTLINE WHAT THE, UM, AB UH, CAN WE OUTLINE WHAT THE ABATEMENT IS? JUST FOR THE RECORD RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DOING THE ZONE, RIGHT. WELL, THAT ACTUALLY IS THE NEXT ITEM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT IF, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO. SO WE ARE, UM, PROPOSING A, A 50% ABATEMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS FOR THIS PROJECT. UH, THIS WILL AGAIN, UH, THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENTS THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR EXPANSION IS FOR ABOUT $56 MILLION. SO THAT WOULD GIVE US, UM, ESTIMATED TOTAL ABATEMENT OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEVEN YEARS WOULD BE ABOUT A 508,000. AND THEN CITY REVENUES OF THE SAME OVER THAT TIME. AND THIS, THESE PARTICULAR REVENUES ARE FOR JUST THE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT FOR THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT, INVENTORY, LAND, ET CETERA, THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND SO THE ABATEMENT IS ONLY ON THE NEW ITEMS AS WELL? THAT IS CORRECT. WELL, IT'S NOT ON THEIR ENTIRE PLANT, YES. OR AS IT EXISTS OR ANYTHING. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ABATEMENT IS FOR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. UH, THERE ARE NO REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS GOING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IT'S STRICTLY JUST THE PRODUCTION LINES. DO THEY HAVE THEY, THEY HAVE NO CURRENT ABATEMENTS? NO, SIR. IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE THEY'VE GOTTEN AN ABATEMENT, RIGHT? CORRECT. CORRECT. AND THIS, THEY JUST HAD AN ENTERPRISE ZONE PROJECT STATUS DESIGNATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SEVERAL, 2015 ISH MAYBE. YEAH, MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO OR SO. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S IT. THIS IS ON BUSINESS. PERSONAL PROPERTY, NOT PROPERTY TAX. NOT THE REAL PROPERTY, NO SIR. YEAH. AND BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. UH, LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UH, THEY INCREASED THAT SIGNIFICANTLY. UH, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PROBABLY THAT THAT TREND WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE AS WELL. SO I MOVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A CERTAIN AREA. THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE IS WAXAHATCHEE RES. IF WE INVESTMENT ZONE 33, CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS. SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES YOUR UNANIM. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU CASSANDRA. AND THAT MOVES THIS TO [17. Public Hearing on a request by applicant Owens Corning Insulating Systems, LLC., owner of property located at 3700 N. Interstate 35-E, Waxahachie, Texas, for a tax abatement agreement in support of an expansion of business operations including, but not limited to production line improvements estimated at $56,000,000 within the City of Waxahachie Reinvestment Zone #33 at 3700 N. Interstate 35-E, Waxahachie, Texas ] ITEM 17 PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY APPLICANT OWENS CORNING INSTALLATION SYSTEMS LLC OWNER OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3,700 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 E WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS FOR A TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT IN SUPPORT OF AN EXPANSION OF BUSINESS OPERATION OPERATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRODUCTION LINE IMPROVEMENTS ESTIMATED AT $56 MILLION WITHIN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE REINVESTMENT. ZONE NUMBER 33 AT 3,700 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 E WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CASSANDRA CARROLL. SO AS WE DISCUSSED, UM, WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THIS IS FOR AN ABATEMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS FOR ABOUT A $56 MILLION EXPANSION AT THE OWENS CORNING PLANT. AND THE ABATEMENT WILL BE FOR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY ONLY. DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY REAL [01:10:01] PROPERTY. IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PRODUCTION LINES, THAT WILL ALSO INCREASE THEIR OUTPUT BY AN ADDITIONAL 10%. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL 10% INCREASE IN THEIR INVENTORY VALUES. UH, IT WILL, UH, REMOVE, LIKE I SAID, THE OBSOLETE STORAGE TANKS AND MATERIALS HANDLING EQUIPMENT. AND THE NEW PRODUCTION LINES ALSO RUN MUCH, UM, MORE EFFICIENTLY. SO IT'S GONNA GIVE US A REDUCTION IN THEIR WATER USAGE, THEIR SEWER USAGE, NATURAL GAS AND THEIR LAND, LAND FIELD WASTE, AND THEIR EMISSIONS OUTPUT AS WELL. SO, UM, OVERALL IT'S A WIN-WIN AS FAR AS THE PLAN IS CONCERNED. IT BRINGS IT UP INTO THE 21ST CENTURY OR STARTING OF BRINGING IT TO THE 21ST CENTURY. UM, AND THEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL. SO YEAH, THAT'S, UM, WHERE WE ARE. AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS ABATEMENT FOR OWENS CORN. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UM, WE HAD NO ONE SIGN UP FOR THIS FOR THE, WE HAD NO ONE SIGN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, SO WE CAN CLOSE THAT AT THIS TIME AND MOVE US TO ITEM 18. [18. Consider proposed Resolution approving Tax Abatement Agreement for Owens Corning Insulating Systems, LLC in support of expansion of business operations at 3700 N. Interstate 35-E, Waxahachie, Texas ] CONSIDER PROPOSED RESOLUTION APPROVING TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT FOR OWENS CORNING INSULATION INSULATING SYSTEMS LLC IN SUPPORT OF EXPANSION OF BUSINESS OPERATIONS OPERATIONS. WHY CAN'T I SAY THAT? ONE AT 3,700 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 E WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS, I MOVED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT WITH OWENS CORNING INSULATING SYSTEMS LLC AS PRESENTED WITH A TAX ABATEMENT ON BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, A VALOREM TAX OF 50% FOR SEVEN YEARS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND, I HAVE THE MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY. THANK Y'ALL. IT'S THE ENDS. THEY'RE GETTING. I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A LOT IN THAT ONE. ALRIGHT, CASSANDRA, ARE YOU READY? 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 19, [19. Public Hearing to consider Resolution nominating Owens Corning Insulating Systems, LLC for the Texas Enterprise Zone Program ] PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION. NOMINATING OWENS CORNING INSULATING SYSTEMS, LLC FOR THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CASSANDRA CARROLL. SO, UM, AS WE, LIKE, WE DID THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DID THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, UM, PROJECT STATUS FOR WALGREENS. WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO DO THAT AS WELL FOR OWENS CORNING. WITH THIS PROJECT COMING FORWARD, UH, THAT DOES, UH, MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE TO REQUEST THIS DESIGNATION FROM THE STATE. AND AGAIN, THIS, BY YOU PASSING THIS RESOLUTION AND RECOMMENDING THEM FOR THAT, IT DOES GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO COLLECT THE STATE SALES TAX PORTION THAT THEY DO SPEND, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THEIR OPERATIONS AND ALSO CONTINUES TO PROVIDE JOBS FOR THOSE, UH, CENSUS TRACKS, CENSUS BLOCKS WHERE, UH, THE EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE INCOMES ARE, ARE THE LOWER INCOMES ARE AND TO PROVIDE THOSE JOBS FOR, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, I'M AS REQUESTING THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT RESOLUTION FOR OWENS CORNING TO BE DESIGNATED AS AN ENTERPRISE ZONE PROJECT. AND IF THEY WERE ACCEPTED AND APPROVED, THAT WOULD KEEP STATE SALES TAX DOLLARS HOME, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE HAD NO ONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SO CAN MOVE US TO ITEM 20, [20. Consider proposed Resolution nominating Owens Corning Insulating Systems, LLC as a Texas State Enterprise Zone Project ] CONSIDER PROPOSED RESOLUTION NOMINATING OWENS CORNING INSULATING SYSTEMS LLC AS A TEXAS STATE ENTERPRISE ZONE PROJECT, MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE NOMINATION OF OWENS CORNING AND INSULATION SYSTEM, INSULATING SYSTEMS LLC TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BANK AS A TEXAS STATE ENTERPRISE PROJECT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ON NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. MOTION TO SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. AND THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES TO ITEM 21, [21. Consider budget transfer for Alpine Wastewater Oversize Participation in an amount not to exceed $49,359] CONSIDER BUDGET TRANSFER FOR ALPINE WASTEWATER, OVERSIZED PARTICIPATION IN, IN, IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 49,359. DIRECTOR OF CIP ENGINEERING, JAMES GARTNER. THANK YOU MAYOR PROAM. UH, COUNSEL, UH, SAVING THE LAST FOR SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST RIGHT HERE. SO . UH, SO THIS RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT WITH ALPINE GROUP, UH, TO BE ABLE TO OVERSIZE THE WATER AND SEWER LINE, UH, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING TO GET TO THEIR SITE. AND SO INSTEAD OF THEM PUTTING A 12 INCH, UH, FOR, FOR THE WATER LINE, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A 16 INCH WATER LINE BASED ON OUR WATER MASTER PLAN. AND THEN WITH THE SEWER LINE, INSTEAD OF PUTTING A 12 INCH, UH, PER ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A 15 INCH, UH, SEWER LINE. AND SO FOR THE WATER, THERE'S [01:15:01] 4,200 FEET OF WATER LINE. AND FOR THE SEWER THERE IS, UH, 6,300 FEET OF SEWER LINE THAT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED. AND SO, UH, WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR THE WATER, UH, PORTION. WE HAVE BUDGET THAT FOR THE SEWER, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY SHORT 49,500, SORRY, $49,359. AND SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE ASKING FOR A BASICALLY A, A BUDGET TRANSFER. THIS IS, UH, IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE AS WE CAN MOVE MONEY FROM THE IMPACT FEES TO PAY FOR THIS, UH, OVERSIZED PARTICIPATION. LEMME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JAMES. IS THIS SOME IS IS, IS THIS A PROJECT WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, AT LEAST RUN CONDUIT OF SOME KIND TO GET FIBER OR HELP GET FIBER ON THAT SIDE OF I 35 OR ON, SORRY, ON 2 87? IT IS. UM, WE HAVE NOT ASKED THAT TO, TO, UH, AND WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR THAT. UH, SO WE CAN TALK WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO ACTUALLY PUT A CONDUIT IN THERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA NEED IT TOO THOUGH, RIGHT? TO GET TO THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? IS THAT IT IS TO GO TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT THERE, THE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR 48 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE COULDN'T SAY NO TO. YES. UM, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD CONSIDER WE, WE, WE COULD MOVE FUNDS FOR? I I I, I COULD ASK BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT SIDE OF, FROM 2 2 7 EAST, UM, CELL RECEPTION'S BAD, THE INTERNET'S BAD. IS THAT, AND ONE THING WE COULD LOOK AT IS BASICALLY IT IS THE COIN ALL JUST ALL ALONG FOR THE, THE WATER LINE TO JUST TALKING ABOUT JUST GETTING ACROSS, UH, 2 87 RIGHTS. BECAUSE I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING ALONG THE SEWER LINE, UH, PORTION. UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING OUT THERE. UH, BUT AT LEAST TO GET ACROSS THE, I CAN TALK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND GET A QUOTE FOR THE HOW MUCH WOULD COST TO PUT A CONDUIT IN THE GROUND. UH, THEN WE HAD TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT. BUT I, I WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM, UH, ON THAT RIGHT THERE. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH COUNCIL AND AND RICKY TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN FUND THAT. WOULD THAT NOT BE SOMETHING WE'D WANT THE THE DEVELOPER? YEAH, HE'S GONNA BUILD THOSE. I MEAN, I WAS KIND OF THINKING OUT THERE, LET THEM PAY FOR THE, THE INTERNET GOING OUT THERE. AND SO I WANNA SAY WITH UH, HAPPENING LIKE, UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNET FOR, UH, BASICALLY LIKE A FRANCHISE, UTILITIES, I SAY AT AND T OR SPECTRUM, THEN I, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY'LL BE DEFINITELY COORDINATING WITH, UH, THOSE COMPANIES TO DO THAT. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A, A CONDO FOR CITY FIBER OH NO, I, I, I MEANT, I MEANT FOR FUTURE USE FOR OH, OKAY. OKAY. AT AND T OR SPECTRUM OR WHOEVER TO COME THROUGH AND OKAY. IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY CAN JUST, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S ACROSS, IT'S ON, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? I GUESS IT'D BE THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF 2 87 WITH THE MAP TURN RIGHT POINT TOWARDS MIDDLE CREEK. SO I KNOW IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, BUT WE'VE GOT CRUMMY EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT EAST, SO, SO IF WE SOMETHING, SO THAT'S, TALK WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLAN IS FOR THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES. SO IT, THAT WAY IT'S NOT A COST TO US. UH, SO I CAN DEFINITELY TALK WITH THEM, FIND OUT WHAT THEIR PLAN IS FOR THAT. THAT'D BE AWESOME. YEP, GO AHEAD. WE'LL TRY TO BRING YOU SOMETHING BACK AS SOON WE CAN. YEAH. A MOTION. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET TRANSFER FROM WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES TO PROJECT NUMBER 4 38 RELATED TO THE ALPINE WASTEWATER OVERSIZED PARTICIPATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TAKE, EXCEED $49,359 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. UH, NUMBER ITEM 22 IS TO CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS, SO WE CAN JUST BLOW BY THAT ONE. UM, AND TAKES US DOWN TO ITEM [24. Comments by Mayor, City Council, City Attorney and City Management] 24 COMMENTS BY, UH, MAYOR, SHE JUST HASN'T, SHE'S NOT HERE. UM, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGEMENT. I WILL START TO OUR RIGHT. NOTHING SIR. THANK YOU. GOT RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COMPLIMENTS ON THE, ON THE, UH, PARKING OUT AT THE SMALL DOG PARK AND AT THE, AT THE FARMER'S MARKET. IT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE SAY NICE THINGS TO US OCCASIONALLY, . WE APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING. 'CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL COME TO THE MEETINGS. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A, BEEN A HARD COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE'VE HAD ALBERT PASSED AND TRACE'S DAD PASSED AND NOW DAVID BIDDLES PASSED AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY, REALLY TOUGH WEEK. SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE FAMILY OF MR. BIDDLE IN, IN [01:20:01] YOUR PRAYERS AND, AND, UH, CONTINUED WITHOUT ALBERT'S FAMILY AND TRACE'S FAMILY. AND OTHER THAN THAT, THANKS FOR COMING . UH, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, FIRST OFF, UH, DO WANT TO THANK OWENS CORNING FOR BEING A, A, A GREAT CORPORATE CITIZEN HERE. UM, PROVIDE A LOT OF JOBS, HELP WITH THE TAX BASE. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT. UM, DID WANNA POINT OUT, YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND DISSECTING INTO NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT PASSION UP HERE, EVEN IF THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING THINGS, BUT I THINK WE, WE, UH, WORK TOGETHER WELL ON THAT. AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD, GOOD STEWARDS OF Y'ALL'S FINANCES. AND SO, UM, MORE TO COME ON THAT. FINALLY, I DO WANT TO, UM, COUNCILMAN WRIGHT HAD MENTIONED COUNCILMAN ATKINS. HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT AND I SPOKE TO HIM EARLIER TODAY AND HE DID GIVE ME PERMISSION TO SAY THAT HE HAS A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S GOING THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT SURGERY IN THE MORNING. I, I ENCOURAGED HIM. I KNOW OTHERS ENCOURAGED HIM. HE WAS WANTING TO COME HERE AND WE LIKE FAMILY FIRST TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY. SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE HIM IN YOUR PRAYERS AND, AND, AND HIS FAMILY MEMBER IN YOUR PRAYERS AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT. UH, OH, AND ONE LAST THING IS ALLUDED TO, I WILL NOT BE HERE NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MEETING. UM, I WILL BE ON A TRIP WITH MY LOVELY BRIDE FOR OUR ANNIVERSARY AND SHE, SHE IS OWED A NICE TRIP FROM HAVING TO PUT UP WITH ME. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU SIR. THANK Y'ALL. DONE HERE. THE IN TRENTON JOHN CHIEF MAJOR BOY. YEAH, THANKS FOR A LOT OF THINGS TONIGHT. UM, CHAD AND THE FINANCE TEAM AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS FOR WORKING ON A BUDGET SO LONG, UM, IT'S A LONG PROCESS AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S DIGGING IN TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITIZENS' MONEY. UM, THANK YOU TO THE ELLIS COUNTY WOMEN'S, UH, BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR FINALIZING THE AGREEMENT AND ALL THOSE THAT WORKED ON THAT. THANK YOU OWENS CORNING FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD CORPORATE PARTNER TO THIS CITY. WE, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S LONG HISTORY HERE AND, AND WANTING TO CONTINUE THAT AND PROVE THAT AND CASSANDRA'S WORK ON THAT PROJECT. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, AS, AS IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, THERE'S A LOT OF OUR CITY FAMILY HURTING IN A LOT OF WAYS. UM, UM, TRACE ATKINS HAS FACED SEVERAL THINGS THE PAST OF HIS FATHER AND, UM, UH, BATTLING CANCER AND THEN NOW THIS, UM, MEDICAL CONCERN FOR HIS SON. UM, I DO THINK ALL THOSE THAT SHOWED UP FOR OUR SERVICES AND, UM, I I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY, VERY FITTING AND GOOD SERVICE FOR HIM. AND UM, CERTAINLY FOR THE PASSING OF DAVID BIDDLE UNEXPECTED, UM, UM, DO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE PRAYING FOR THAT FAMILY. UH, ALSO PRAY FOR OUR POLICE OFFICER FAMILY. UM, DAVID PUT IN 22 ODD YEARS HERE. UM, AND THOSE ARE RELATIONSHIPS THAT, UM, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST WORK PARTNERS. UM, WE GET TO KNOW OUR COWORKERS IN A BIG WAY AND WE BECOME A FAMILY AND WE SAY THAT AND WE DON'T JUST SAY IT, WE MEAN IT. UM, SO MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE POLICE FAMILY AS WELL. AND, UH, WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. I'M A ONE OTHER THING. I DID SEND Y'ALL THE SERVICES FOR MR. BIDDLE, UH, IN THE EMAIL, SO I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO PLUG THOSE ACTUALLY, YEAH, THOSE ARE UM, THURSDAY, HIS VISITATION IS THURSDAY NIGHT, THE AVENUE CHURCH HERE IN TOWN SIX TO EIGHT AND THEN HIS UH, SERVICES ARE 11 O'CLOCK, UH, THERE AT THE AVENUE CHURCH AS WELL ON FRIDAY. SO THANK YOU. I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO PLUG IN 'CAUSE I'M A CRIER AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT CRY. THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF CRIERS. UM, WITH THAT, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND UH, WE GOT THROUGH A 25 ITEM AGENDA AND AN HOUR AND A HALF, BE SURE TO MENTION THAT TO BILL. IT IS 8:28 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.