Mar 03, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

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[4. Public Comments]

PERSONS MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUES.

THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY CONCERN WHETHER ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE COUNCIL MAY NOT COMMENT OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS DURING THIS PERIOD, EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 5 1 0 4 2 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SHEILA HOOD, 38 41 BLACK CHAMP ROAD.

UH, I'M COMING TO REPRESENT THE PET COALITION OF ELLIS COUNTY THIS EVENING.

I KNOW YOU'RE USED TO SEEING DARLENE'S FACE, BUT BUT YOU HAVE ME THIS EVENING.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, A QUICK UPDATE AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE DONE A TOUR OF THE TRI-CITIES ANIMAL SHELTER AND HAD CONVERSATION WITH US ABOUT, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH OTHER CITIES TO BUILD A STATE-OF-THE-ART SHELTER FOR OUR COUNTY.

UH, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO SEE, UH, PEOPLE ENGAGE AND LEAN INTO.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE MANY, MANY THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE, BUT WE FEEL REAL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE AN EXCELLENT COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO IS HAVE EXCELLENT SERVICES FOR THEIR CITIZENS.

AND AN AN EXCELLENT ANIMAL SHELTER IS CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF WHO WE ARE AS EACH CITY IN THIS COUNTY.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE, UH, BESIDES THE SHELTER, OH, WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS, WE'VE HAD THREE TOTAL TOURS WITH A NUMBER OF OFFICIALS FROM OTHER CITIES AND FROM THE COUNTY THERE, SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HAVE A STATE-OF-THE-ART SHELTER IN A PARTNERSHIP.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A FLYING BEE.

WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTY FOR LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER.

PET COALITION IS FUNDING SOME OF THAT THROUGH, UH, DONATIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS SO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP WITH THE SOURCE OF THE STRAY ANIMAL, UH, PROBLEM WE HAVE ALSO, UM, MEETING TONIGHT, WE HAVE ABOUT 70 VOLUNTEERS MEETING TONIGHT AND WORK WORKSHOP TO WORK ON DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE CAN TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS IN THIS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOURCE PLACING ANIMALS, HELPING PEOPLE KEEP ANIMALS, TRANSPORTING ANIMALS, AND EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO HELP THE EXPLOSION IN, IN THE, UH, THE POPULATION.

UM, WE ALSO, UH, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER OR WANTS TO HEAR MORE ABOUT, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A WEBSITE.

UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO ENGAGE VOLUNTEERS NOT ONLY FROM WAXAHATCHEE,

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BUT ALL THE, ALL THE CITIES AND STUFF IN THE COUNTY.

AND AS ALWAYS, OUR GOAL FROM WITH THE PET COALITION IS TO SAY, HOW CAN WE HELP? WHAT CAN WE DO? SO ANY OF YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, KNOW MORE THAT WE CAN DO OR SOMETHING ELSE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US BECAUSE WE WANNA BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, CONSENT, CONSENT AGENDA.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[5. Consent Agenda]

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM FIVE.

CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.

ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY MEM ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TO, UH, FURTHER DISCUSS ITEM 12, THE TAXI CAB PERMIT REQUEST FROM SILVER BULLET TAXI IF WE COULD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNSEL, MAD MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, EXCLUDING ITEM K FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS AS NECESSARY.

MOTION CARRIES.

COUNSEL IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE, UH, SILVER BULLET TAXI HERE, UH, THIS EVENING? NO, I WAS JUST, UH, READING THROUGH THE PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AND I DIDN'T NOTICE IN THERE ANYWHERE ABOUT, UM, A CCH, UM, BEING COMPLETED ON THE DRIVER'S FOR THIS TAXI CAB PERMIT REQUEST FROM THE SILVER BULLET TAXI.

UM, CHIEF, DO WE, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? CAN YOU SPEAK TO IT AT ALL? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

I'M SORRY.

WE WOULD NEED THAT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

UM, BECAUSE THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE IS, IS GOING THROUGH THE, THE DIFFERENT STEPS OF, OF ONE HAVING THIS ON THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, UM, AND GOING THROUGH THE OTHER STEPS OF PERMITS, ET CETERA.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WHOEVER THE DRIVERS WILL BE THAT WILL BE DRIVING OUR FAMILIES AND POSSIBLY OUR CHILDREN AROUND IN WAXAHATCHEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT A, A, A CRIMINAL HISTORY BE RAN ON THEM, UH, AND APPROVED, UH, BEFORE WE ALLOW THAT.

I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I AGREE.

YES.

YEAH, WE NEED TO.

IN FACT, UH, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT, THAT HAS SUBMITTED.

WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE IN THE PAST.

THIS IS THE ONLY ONE SUBMITTED.

IN FACT, AMBER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE ORDINANCE IS PROBABLY NEEDS BE UPDATED ANYWAY, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT LANGUAGE AND THEN RUN THIS BACK THROUGH ONCE THAT, ONCE THAT APPROVED ORDINANCES BACK BEFORE Y'ALL.

VERY GOOD.

SO, SO SHOULD WE TABLE THIS? YEAH, I WOULD JUST DENY IT IS WHAT I WOULD DO.

AND THEN WOULD THE, BUT WOULD THAT, IF WE D DENY IT, DO THEY HAVE TO CEASE OPERATION IMMEDIATELY? CURRENT IF THEY DON'T HAVE PERMIT, THEY'RE OPERATING DON'T YET YET.

SILVER BULLET.

IS IT? THEY USED TO NOT, NOT CURRENTLY.

WE COULD DO ONE OR TWO THINGS TO NOT DENY THE PERMIT.

WE COULD INDEFINITELY POSTPONE IT UNTIL WE COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THAT Y'ALL CAN ADOPT AND THEN, THEN THEY COULD COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DO AND, AND DO THE CRIMINAL HISTORY BACKGROUND CHECK ON, ON WHOEVER THEIR DRIVERS MAY BE.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO DENY TONIGHT.

WE COULD DO JUST POSTPONE INDEFINITELY.

POSTPONE IT.

GET THE ORDINANCE PREPARED AND THEY, THAT WOULDN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM COMING BACK.

WHILE WE

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I, I DON'T FEEL WE SHOULD DENY IT.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY FILED UNDER WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT.

UM, SO IF WE JUST DO THE INDEFINITE, THE INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, THEN OKAY.

I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD BE GOOD THERE.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT PLEASE? LEMME, LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

SO, BUT THE, THE WILL, THE WISHES OF COUNSEL IS THAT, THAT THEY WILL NOT BE OPERATING UNTIL THAT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK IS THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT.

MAKE SURE MAD MAYOR, I MOVE FOR AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM K FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

AND JUST FOR, UM, CLARIFICATION, THE AGENDA FOR ITEM L SAYS THREE 15 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THREE 15 SOUTH ROGERS STREET, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, ON ITEM L.

SO IF YOU WOULD JUST MAKE NOTE OF THAT CHANGE.

[6. Introduce Honorary Council Member]

UM, NEXT, UH, IT IS MY MONTH TO INTRODUCE THE HONORARY COUNSEL MEMBER, AND TONIGHT I PRESENT TO YOU, UH, KIM HOLMAN, WHICH IS DOWN THERE ON THE END.

HI, KIM.

HELLO.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

HIGHLIGHT THE, THE MANY WONDERFUL THINGS THAT KIM AND WADE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, WHILE, UH, EMPLOYED, UH, AT WAXAHATCHEE CARE.

APPRECIATE, UH, KIM HOLMAN AND HER HUSBAND WADE.

MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THEM.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN, UM, RUNNING, UM, WAXAHATCHEE CARE FOR SIX, SIX AND A HALF YEARS.

AND, UM, THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HERE TONIGHT WAS TO JUST TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR ALL THE WORK, UH, THAT THEY HAVE DONE, UH, FOR, FOR, FOR OUR COUNTY, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY SERVE THE ENTIRE ELLIS COUNTY, NOT, UH, JUST WAXAHATCHEE.

UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD HAD FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER THAT HAS RELIED ON THEM FOR FOOD.

YOU MAY HAVE TOO.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES THAT WAXAHATCHEE CARE, UH, PROVIDES IS NOT ONLY FOOD, BUT, UH, HELP WITH, UM, ELECTRICITY.

BILLS, HELP WITH, UM, RENT.

UH, I'VE CALLED, UH, UP ON WAXAHATCHEE CARE MORE THAN ONCE TO ASSIST IN KEEPING A FAMILY.

USUALLY IT'S A, A SINGLE MOTHER WITH CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO KEEP 'EM, UH, IN THEIR, IN THEIR HOME AND NOT LIVING IN THEIR VEHICLE OR, UH, IN THE STREET SOMEWHERE.

UM, JUST SOME THINGS THAT KIM AND WADE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE LAST SIX, SIX AND A HALF YEARS.

AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS LIST BECAUSE WE WOULD BE HERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME TONIGHT.

UH, BUT JUST A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO READ, UH, SOME PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THE, UH, 2020 LEADERSHIP WAXAHATCHEE GRADUATE, UM, KIM AND WADE, THEY LOVE WAXAHATCHEE.

IT SHOWS IN EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

UM, 2021 WAXAHATCHEE 1 0 1 GRADUATE.

2021 WAXAHATCHEE CHAMBER OF CURSE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HATCHIE AWARD FOR, UM, FOR LEADING, UH, THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.

2022 ELLIS CHRISTIAN WOMEN'S JOB CORPS ROSE AWARD FOR MINISTRY LEADER OF THE YEAR 2023.

NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK NON-PROFIT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATE, ONE YEAR PROGRAM.

UH, PAST BOARD MEMBER OF THE ELLIS CHRISTIAN WOMEN'S JOB CORPS.

UH, WISD, PARTNERS AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR TWO YEARS.

A VOLUNTEER FOR FIVE YEARS FOR WISD, NON-PROFIT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

WALK SUCH A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NON-PROFIT OF THE YEAR AWARD.

UH, THREE TIMES, UH, NOMINATED, UM, AND WON RIGHT KIM, UH, FOR OUTTA SIX YEARS.

THEY WON IT FOR THREE YEARS.

THAT'S AMAZING.

2019, UH, SUMMER EARN AND LEARN PROGRAM WITH ATCH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS 2021 LIFE LEADER AWARD FOR SOCIAL AWARENESS FROM LIFE SCHOOL.

THAT THERE'S, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH HERE AND, UH, I'M HONORED AND I KNOW, UH, THE REST OF COUNCIL IS TOO, TO HAVE KIM HERE.

UH, WADE CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, BUT I REALLY JUST WANNA

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[7. Public Hearing on a request by Richard Shinpaugh, Ellis County Bail Bond, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Bail Bond Agency use within a Commercial (C) zoning district located at 104 North Jackson Street (Property ID 170540 - Owner: 201 Main Wax LLC (ZDC-6-2025)]

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY RICHARD SHEPA ELLIS COUNTY BAILON FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAIL BOND AGENCY USE WITHIN A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 1 0 4 NORTH JACKSON STREET.

OWNER 2 0 1 MAIN WAXAHATCHEE, LLC.

THIS IS ZDC 6 20 25 TRENTON.

MAYBE EVEN THE REST OF COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WAS, UM, THAT IT WAS FOR NO MORE THAN TWO YEARS.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BELL BOND AGENCY.

UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY AN EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY.

WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED ON JUNE NINE, UH, JUNE 19TH, 2023, UH, THERE WAS, THEY WERE GIVEN A TWO YEAR EXPIRATION PERIOD ON THIS.

UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS AT TWO 16 SOUTH JACKSON, THEY HAD APPROVED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ANOTHER BUILDING THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT.

UM, HOWEVER, DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS, THEY'RE NO LONGER WANTING TO DO THE BAIL BOND AGENCY AT TWO 16 SOUTH JACKSON STREET AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS LOCATION THEIR PERMANENT, UH, LO UH, LOCATION FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

UH, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS MOSTLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND, UH, CENTRAL AREA.

THE ZONING MAP IS HERE SHOWING THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS IS A COMPATIBLE USE ACCORDING TO OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

UM, WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON? UM, THEY'VE BEEN IN W TATCH FOR A WHILE NOW.

UM, PRIOR TO JUNE OF 2023, UH, THEY DID HAVE BAIL BOND AGENCY OPEN AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

BUT DUE TO, UM, THEY'RE LEASING THAT LOCATION, BUT DUE TO VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT'S WHEN THEY MOVED TO THIS LOCATION.

UH, FOR THAT TWO YEAR, UH, SUP, WE DID MOUNT NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

UH, ZERO CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION, ONE CAME BACK IN FAVOR.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, HERE'S SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE LOCATION THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE THIS A PERMANENT BELL BOND LOCATION FOR THE SUP.

UH, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL.

THERE ARE CONDITIONS, UH, THAT STAFF IS IMPOSING IN AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.

UH, SOME OF THOSE LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A CAVEAT ON THAT.

UM, THEY NEVER PLANNED TO STAY OPEN TO MIDNIGHT.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE'S AN OCCASIONAL TIME WHEN SOMEONE MAY HAVE A CALL WHERE THEY HAVE TO FINISH UP SOME PAPERWORK AND THEY JUST WANNA BE HELD, UH, TO THE 10:00 PM TIME THAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS SUP.

UM, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMANENT LANGUAGE.

AND THAT ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THOSE RARE OCCASIONS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO FINISH UP PAPERWORK AND STAY WITHIN CONFORMANCE OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ORDINANCE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE WOULD NO, THERE WOULD NOT BE AN EXPIRATION CLAUSE ON THIS.

HOWEVER, THE SUP WOULD BE TIED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS LOCATION.

THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, PART OF A MULTI-TENANT RETAIL BUILDING.

AND SO NO OTHER, UH, TENANT IN THAT BUILDING WOULD BE ABLE TO DO A BELL BOND AGENCY.

UM, THIS WOULD ALSO BE TIED TO THE OWNER OF THE BELL BOND AGENCY, UM, POT.

AND IF HE EVER SELLS IT THAT TERM, THIS SUP WOULD EXPIRE AND WOULD BE TERMINATED.

UM, ALSO IF HE, UM, SELLS IT OR CHANGES THE NAME, IT'S ALSO TIED TO THE NAME OF THE, OF THIS BE AND AGENCY.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, TRENTON.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. SHIAL, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL, UH, WHY THE CHANGE, UH, FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS? MOST OF COUNCIL WAS SEATED WHENEVER YOU CAME HERE A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO AGO.

UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE WEREN'T IN FAVOR, UH, NECESSARILY OF HAVING THE BAIL BONDS AT THAT LOCATION AT THAT TIME.

UM, THE SELLING POINT FOR ME, AND, AND

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MM-HMM .

AND NOW YOU'RE BACK ASKING TO PERMANENTLY, UH, REMAIN AT THAT LOCATION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL WHAT'S CHANGED? WELL, IT'S A FINANCIAL ISSUE.

WE, WE STARTED THE NEW PROJECT ON THE NEW BUILDING AND RAN INTO A FINANCIAL ISSUE ON IT.

WE'RE, I'M STILL, I MEAN, I'M NOT RULING OUT THAT I'M GONNA BUILD A BUILDING, BUT I'M RULING OUT THAT I'LL EVER PUT A BAIL BOND COMPANY THERE.

MY INSURANCE COMPANY'S REQUESTED THAT I NOT KEEP MOVING BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OUR BUSINESS.

IT AFFECTS WHEN MY CLIENTS, WHEN I GET 'EM OUTTA JAIL, IF I'M AT 1 0 4 NORTH JACKSON TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND THEIR CASE COMES UP, THEY GET TO COURT AND THEN COME TRYING TO FIND ME, I'M NOT THERE ANYMORE.

IT CREATES PROBLEMS. SO I HAD ALREADY DECIDED NOT TO PUT THE BAIL BOND COMPANY IN THE NEW BUILDING AS I PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED BECAUSE OF ADVICE FROM SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT I NEEDED TO KEEP IT AS A BUSINESS BUILDING AND NOT IF ATTORNEYS WANTED TO MOVE IN THERE.

AN ATTORNEY REALLY DOESN'T WANNA BE IN THE SAME LOCATION AS A BAIL BOND COMPANY.

IT'S JUST A LOCATION SITUATION.

SO THIS PLACE, THIS LOCATION WHERE I'M REQUESTING THE PERMANENT SUP HAS BEEN GREAT FOR BUSINESS.

IT'S BEEN GREAT THAT WHERE I'M RIGHT THERE AT THE COURTHOUSE, UH, IT JUST, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS WORKING REALLY WELL.

SO, I MEAN, I'M 70 YEARS OLD.

I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE FOR 20 YEARS.

I'M HOPING TO RETIRE IN THE FUTURE.

SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST NEED TO RIDE IT OUT.

I NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAY THERE.

AND IT'S A GOOD SIZE FOR US.

IT'S NOT TOO MUCH SPACE.

IT'S ABOUT THE RIGHT SIZE.

AND SO WE'VE JUST TALKED IT AROUND AND TALK.

I TALKED TO MY INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH IT.

I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY.

THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH IT.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS BAIL BONDS IN THAT BUSINESS PARK OVER THE PAST YEAR.

SO I'M JUST, THAT'S WHY I'M REQUESTING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STAY THERE SO I DON'T HAVE TO RENEW THIS THING ALL THE TIME, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

DO YOU REMEMBER, RICK, AND YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME, RIGHT? AND WHENEVER TRENTON SAID YOU'D BEEN HERE A WHILE, HE, HE, HE SAID A MOUTHFUL.

'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

I'VE BEEN HERE 41 YEARS IN THE BELL BOND.

UM, DO YOU REMEMBER WHY, UM, COUNSEL WAS HESITANT, UH, IN THE PAST OF, OF APPROVING THAT? DO YOU REMEMBER WHY? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER THAN BECAUSE IT MAYBE FACED THE HOTEL OR SOMETHING, BUT JUST DRIVING ON 2 87, UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, HEADING OUT EAST MM-HMM .

THEN YOU DO SEE IT.

WE, WE DO HAVE THE ONE, YOU KNOW, BELL BONDS THERE ON, UH, ELM OR 77.

UM, THE DISCUSSION WAS, AND IT'S, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.

AND I, I MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONE THAT, THAT THAT BROUGHT IT UP, UH, WHENEVER YOU WERE HERE THE FIRST TIME.

MM-HMM .

IS, IS THAT ME PERSONALLY, UH, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF HAVING BAIL BONDS ON EVERY, UH, VEINS IN AND OUT OF OUR CITY.

THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

UM, THAT WAS MY HESITANCY THEN.

AND IT'S MY HESITANCY NOW.

UH, IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

WELL, I'VE JUST, I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO KEEP MY SIGNAGE MINIMAL.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE GIANT NEON SIGNS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP, KEEP MY SIGNAGE MINIMAL.

AND, UH, SO IT DOESN'T STAND OUT AS MUCH.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT ENOUGH SIGNAGE SO MY CUSTOMERS CAN FIND ME IF THEY COME DOWN THERE LOOKING FOR ME.

AND THAT WAS AN ISSUE WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE, BECAUSE IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET EVERYTHING APPROVED TO PUT MY SIGNAGE UP.

PEOPLE WERE RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO FIND US AND COULDN'T FIND US.

SO.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I MEAN, I, NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE AS FAR AS SIGNAGE.

I'LL KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.

I JUST, IT'S JUST CONVENIENT BEING AT THE COURTHOUSE.

HONESTLY, I THINK THE SIGNAGE IS AN ISSUE FOR ME.

MR. SH PAUL.

'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE SORT OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF US THERE.

SOME, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE PHOTO OF THE BUILDING AS IT IS NOW, THAT'S NOT MINIMAL SIGNAGE.

I MEAN, THAT'S MORE THAN ANY BOUTIQUE IN TOWN HAS.

WELL, THE WHOLE ISSUE WAS, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE NEON.

BUT THAT'S A TERRIBLY BRIGHT YELLOW IN OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN ON THE HISTORIC BRICK.

THOSE COLORS HAVE BEEN MY COLORS FOR 41 YEARS ON ALL MY ADVERTISING.

SO THAT'S WHY I USED IT.

WELL, AND ALSO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ADDED THE WHITE

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LIGHTS.

I MEAN, I GET THE IDEA OF YOU WANTING TO BE SEEN RIGHT THERE.

UH, BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, I MEAN, YEAH.

I MEAN, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I WANT YOU TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO FIND YOU.

BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT SOME BEAMING, YOU KNOW, BELL BONDS OFFICE IN EVERY VEIN OF OUR CITY GOING IN AND OUT.

WELL THE WHITE LIGHTS WERE JUST, BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN THOSE LIGHTS AREN'T ON, IT IS PITCH BLACK RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST AT NIGHT.

AT NIGHT.

THAT'S THE WHOLE ISSUE.

BUT THE LIGHTS ARE ON A TIMER, SO THEY ONLY COME ON FROM DUST.

I MEAN, FROM, YOU KNOW, DUST TO A MORNING.

SO IT'S ALSO NOT SHOWING THE BIG NEON OPEN SIGN THAT'S IN THE WINDOW AS WELL.

SO, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT THAT THING LIT UP PRETTY, PRETTY BRIGHT.

WELL, I CAN DO AWAY, I MEAN, WITH THE LITTLE YELLOW ONE ON THE GROUND OVER THERE, THE ONLY REASON I HAD TO GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SIGNAGE, SO I PURCHASED THAT ONE TO PUT ON THE SIDEWALK, WHICH WAS A SUGGESTION BY BY THE CITY.

SO, UH, I MEAN, WE JUST KEPT IT SO IT'S JUST SAT IT JUST LEANS UP OUT THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, RICK, IF WE PUT ANOTHER TIME LIMIT ON IT.

I UNDERSTAND YOU NOT WANTING TO, TO MOVE OVER AND OVER, BUT YOU KNOW, TO SAY, SURE, YOU CAN STAY HERE INDEFINITELY.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

WELL, IT WON'T BE AN INDEFINITE AT MY AGE.

WELL, YOU GOT KIDS, DON'T YOU? YEAH, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT BUSINESS.

I KNOW, BUT YOU PROBABLY GOT GRANDKIDS.

I MEAN, BUT THEY'RE, THEY, I MEAN, ANYBODY BUT ME HAS IT.

THEY GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

SO, I MEAN, I WOULD, I CONSIDER FIVE YEARS IS THE LIMIT ON IT.

DOWN THAT SAYS ELLIS COUNTY.

I, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, RICK, AND NO, THAT'S FINE.

JUST SHOOT STRAIGHT WITH YOU.

I PLAN ON, UH, HOPEFULLY SELLING IT OR RETIRING BY THEN, THEN LET WHOEVER TAKES IT, WORRY ABOUT IT.

BUT ANY OTHER , I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH FIVE YEARS.

IF I, I JUST, MY, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS WANTING ME TO SIGN LEASES AND I DON'T WANT TO SIGN A FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH HIM, OR A 10 YEAR LEASE WITH HIM IF I DON'T HAVE A SUP IN EFFECT.

BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR TIME THAT THE SUP RUNS OUT, YOU KNOW, SO.

SURE.

THAT'S THE REASON.

IF I'M GONNA HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON THAT, I NEED TO, I NEED IT DESIGNATED.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO I SIGN A LEASE FOR FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I'M, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEN I'M SAFE.

SO, ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? YEAH, EXCUSE ME.

I WOULD, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A TIME LIMIT.

UM, WHETHER IT'S FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL COMES UP WITH ALSO, THAT'S A LOT OF SIGNAGE.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, WELL, I CAN GET RID OF THE SIDEWALK SIGN.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, THAT WAS A TEMPORARY SIGN ANYWAY.

SO, WELL, THE SIDEWALK SIGN'S THE LEAST OF MY PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE IT ON THE BIG WINDOW AS, UH, WELL, THE WHOLE REASON FOR THAT IS IF SOMEBODY'S PARKED RIGHT THERE, WHICH 90% OF THE TIME SOMEBODY'S PARKED IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING, YOU CAN'T SEE THAT SIGN.

SO THAT'S WHY THE SIGN IS ON TOP, BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE IT COMING DOWN MAIN STREET OR COMING DOWN JACKSON STREET.

AND I MEAN, LITERALLY DRIVE BY IN THE DAYTIME 90% OF THE TIME.

AND IT'S NOT US, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE BUSINESSES IN THERE.

EVERYBODY COMES AROUND THE CORNER TO PARK.

SO IF AN SU V'S PARKED THERE, OR A BIG TRUCK OR ANYTHING, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF MY SIGNAGE OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT'S ON TOP.

SO THEN REALLY THE ONE OF NECESSITY IS THE ONE ON TOP.

THE ONE ON TOP IS THE NECESSITY.

YES.

SO THE SIDEWALK SIGN AND THE WINDOW SIGNAGE.

DON'T FORGET THE OVERHANG SIGN.

OH, YEP.

I MEAN, I, I JUST, I, I MEAN, I'M OPEN Y'ALL SUGGESTION.

I'M NOT TRYING TO , I WOULD GO WITH JUST, WITH JUST ONE SIGN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO OPERATE AND MAKE A LIVING.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MY GOAL.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT.

WHERE YOU HAVE PROPER SIGNAGE.

UM, THE ONE UP TOP ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE BUILDING.

BUILDING, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

WOULDN'T BE BLOCKED.

UM, ALL THE OTHER ONES.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE ONE UNDER THE AWNING, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S COMING AROUND THE CORNER AND COMING DOWN THAT SIDEWALK, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT ONE UP THERE.

THEY AT LEAST CAN SEE THE ONE HANGING

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WHICH ONE? THE, THE ONE ON.

WELL, YOU CAN'T, IT'S HARD TO SEE.

YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

OH, OKAY.

IT'S JUST LIKE ALL THE BUSINESSES IN TOWN HAVE A LITTLE HANG DOWN.

SO I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ALLOW ANYBODY TO HAVE THOSE KIND LIGHTS THOUGH, TO ILLUMINATE A SIGN.

WELL, I WENT TO THE CITY BEFORE I PUT 'EM UP AND ASKED, AND THEY'RE CONSIDERED DECORATIVE LIGHTS.

SO THEY SAID THERE WAS NO REASON I COULDN'T HAVE 'EM.

I DON'T, I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT, THAT, THAT THE LIGHT POLLUTION FROM THOSE EXTENDS BEYOND YOUR BUILDING, UM, BEING OUTDOOR FLOODLIGHTS.

UM, WHICH ONE ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TWO UPLIGHTS RIGHT THERE? YEAH.

THAT JUST SHINES ON THE SIGN THE NORMALLY I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T THINK WE ALLOW ANYBODY TO LIGHT THEIR SIGNS WITH THOSE.

ESPECIALLY NOT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY GOTTA BE BACK LIT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I ASKED FIRST, BUT I MEAN, I CAN GET RID OF 'EM.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

CAN ANYBODY ON STAFF CORRECT ME IF I'M IT, WOULD THE DECORATIVE LIGHTS AT NIGHT BE SUFFICIENT TO LIGHT THAT UP IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE? NO, IT'S BECAUSE THE AWNING BLOCKS ALL THE LIGHTING.

OH.

I MEAN, I CAN GET RID OF THOSE.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

I MEAN, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO COMPLY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US, UH, APPROVE FIVE YEARS, UH, RICK.

AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT SIGN, UH, THAT'S HANGING UNDERNEATH THERE NECESSARILY IN THE ONE ON, ON TOP.

UM, NOT A FAN OF THE OTHER TWO.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE, THE, UH, SUP APPROVAL, UH, NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE ADDED.

THAT'S FINE.

COUNSEL, I AGREE.

THAT INCLUDES SIGNAGE IN THE WINDOW AS WELL.

NO ADDITIONAL.

CORRECT.

I, AND I WOULD TAKE IT NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE PERIOD, NO MATTER WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

WE HAVE THE ONE ON THE BUILDING AND THE, AND THE ONE THAT, THAT HANGS DOWN.

BUT OTHERWISE WE, WE SHOULD, HE SHOULD AT LEAST BE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPEN SIGN.

WELL, NOT A NEON ONE THAT FLASHES.

WELL, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I MEAN, EVERY BUSINESS IN TOWN HAS YEAH.

WHERE'S IT AT? SO EVERY BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN WALKS HATCH.

IT HAS AN OPEN SIGN.

IT'S A NEON LITTLE OPEN, OPEN SIGN.

IT'S NO, THEY DON'T.

IT'S IN THE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT OVER THERE.

IT FILLS UP THE MAJORITY OF THE WINDOW.

IT'S A STANDARD SIZE OPEN SIGN.

LIKE THIS BIGGER ROUND.

I'M OKAY WITH THE OPEN SIGN.

UM, AS LONG AS WE GET RID OF THE OTHER TWO THERE, THE ONE UNDERNEATH IS FINE.

THE ONE ON TOP IS FINE.

FIVE YEARS AND NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE.

I, I WOULD SUPPORT.

THOSE LIGHTS HAVE TO BE APPROVED TOO.

WE, WE NEED TO GET A, WHATEVER THAT NEW TOOL IS THAT WE HAVE TO TEST THE LIGHT POLLUTION.

'CAUSE I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THOSE LIGHTS ARE NOT OKAY.

IT'S TWO FLOODLIGHTS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? MR. SYMPA? IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE BEATING YOU UP.

IT'S THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO OVERLOOK OUR ZONING.

AND IF WE DO THAT AND WE LET YOU PUSH IT THIS FAR, THEN THE NEXT PERSON WILL TRY TO PUSH IT EVEN.

I'LL DO WHATEVER Y'ALL REQUEST ME.

MY, I MEAN, MY BIGGEST, BIGGEST ISSUE WITH IT, AND I'M NOT, I MEAN, I WANT TO DO WHAT Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO, BUT ALL OF THIS STUFF, IT, I, I WILL ALL OF IT ACTUALLY, , I HAD TO DO THE WINDOW SIGNAGE, GET A PERMIT FOR IT, AND GET IT PUT UP BEFORE I EVER DID IT.

I HAD TO GET A PERMIT FOR THE HANGING SIGN ON THE AWNING.

I HAD TO GET A PERMIT AND APPROVAL ON THE SIGN ABOVE THE BUILDING BEFORE I DID IT.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST KIND OF DISCOURAGING BECAUSE I DID WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

I WENT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AND GOT ALL OF THAT APPROVED AND NOW I'M BEING REQUESTED TO TAKE BACK DOWN.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I DON'T THINK YOU EVER GOT APPROVAL FOR THOSE LIGHTS.

AND IF YOU DID, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

WHICH YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TWO UPLIGHTS, THE LIGHT UPLIGHTS.

I DIDN'T GET A PERMIT FOR IT.

I JUST ASKED IF I COULD LIGHT THAT SIGN UP AND THEY SAID, YEAH, WELL, WE DON'T ALLOW THOSE KIND LIGHTS IS WHAT I'M TRYING.

I MEAN, THE LIGHTS ARE NOT THE ISSUE.

THE SIGN SIGNS ARE THE ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GOT APPROVAL FOR THAT WINDOW SIGN AND IT'S WITHIN THE CITY'S DESIGNATION SIZE WISE.

NOW THE SIDEWALK SIGN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, I'LL THROW IT IN THE TRASH.

BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'LL DO WHAT Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO TO KEEP MY, I NEED THE SUP.

I CAN'T MOVE AGAIN.

AND, UH,

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IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I'M JUST A LITTLE DISCOURAGED BECAUSE NOW I'M COMING BACK IN THERE STUFF I GOT APPROVED WAITING.

I, IT'S BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME.

I MEAN, SINCE I MOVED IN THERE AND NOW I'M JUST WANTING TO EXTEND TO BE THERE A LITTLE LONGER AND I'M HAVING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.

THAT'S JUST A LITTLE DISCOURAGING.

WELL, BUT YOU GOTTA PROVE TO BE THERE IN A, IN A BUILDING THAT'S NOT ZONED FOR YOUR BUSINESS WITH THE STIPULATION THAT YOU WERE GONNA MOVE INTO A BUILDING THAT YOU OWNED.

BUT I STILL, IT'S NOT A BUILDING THAT YOU OWNED, BUT SIGNAGE APPROVED , YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE COMING TO ASK US TO OVERLOOK OUR ZONING AND YOU'VE PUSHED IT ALREADY AND YOU'RE PUSHING IT AGAIN.

WELL, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND IT, SO IF YOU PUSH IT, THEN THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES IN THAT ASKED FOR THE SAME EXACT THING.

WE CAN'T SAY, WELL, OUR ZONING SAYS THIS.

SAY, WELL, YOU DID THIS FOR MR. SHE PAUL, IS IT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HERE FOR 41 YEARS AND I'M NEW? THAT PUTS US IN A REAL BAD SPOT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

SO THE ZONING'S IN PLACE FOR A REASON.

WE'VE GOTTA STICK TO IT AS CLOSELY AS WE CAN WITHOUT HURTING A SMALL BUSINESS.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S FINE.

I'LL GET RID OF THIS.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO MAKING THAT WHOLE PART OF THAT STREET NO PARKING.

AND THEN THERE'S NOT ANYBODY IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT SURE ISN'T SAFE ANYWAYS WHEN THERE'S CARS PARKED ALL RIGHT THERE.

NAH, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PULL OUT AND BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND, YOU CAN'T PULL OUT PULLING OUT OF THAT STREET ON ACROSS DEADLY.

MARTIN LUTHER KING IS A DEATH WISH.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S BAD.

OH, I KNOW.

IT'S TERRIBLE.

I'VE BEEN HIT MYSELF ALMOST SEVERAL TIMES.

SO EVERY TIME YOU CROSS, YOU'RE JUST LIKE PRAYING YOU DON'T GET HIT.

'CAUSE THEY PARK IN FRONT ON MARTIN LUTHER KING ALL THE WAY UP.

YOU CAN'T SEE IF ANYTHING'S COMING AT ALL.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BAD.

YOU GOTTA INCH YOU OUT THERE.

BUT NOT EVERYBODY DOES THAT.

NO.

HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS OVER THERE IN THAT COURTHOUSE ARE THERE FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS? JUST SAYING, I ALREADY GOT THE BEST DRIVERS TO BEGIN WITH.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I'LL REMOVE THE LIGHTING.

I MEAN, CAN I KEEP THE DECORATIVE LIGHTING THAT'S, YEAH, THE DECORATIVES FINE.

IT'S, IT'S OKAY.

IT'S THE UPLIGHTS THAT ARE, ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA REMOVE THE UPLIGHTS, REMOVE THE TWO SIGNS.

THERE ARE WAYS TO LIGHT THAT SIGN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ADHERE WITH WHAT WE ALLOW EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, IF THERE IS AND I CAN DO IT.

THAT, THAT, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH ME.

I MEAN, IT'D BE NICE JUST TO HAVE IT LIT UP SO YOU CAN SEE IT AT NIGHT.

IS THERE A STREET LIGHT ANYWHERE NEAR THERE, RICK? I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE IS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THAT BLOCK BACK TOWARD THE RAILROAD.

IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THERE WAS A GUARD LIGHT BEHIND ME ON THAT PARKING LOT.

BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T, BUT DOESN'T IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING.

I MEAN, THAT WAS THE WHOLE ISSUE WHEN I FIRST GOT DOWN THERE AND I WENT DOWN THERE THE FIRST NIGHT.

I WAS LIKE, MAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THIS BUILDING AT NIGHTTIME.

YOU KNOW? SO, I MEAN, I EVEN LEAVE MY OFFICE LIGHTS ON ON THE INSIDE JUST SO IT KIND OF LIGHTS IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT, THOSE ARE TINTED WINDOWS, SO THAT DOESN'T DO A WHOLE LOT.

JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, HOW MANY TIMES A DAY WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU ACTUALLY REPORT TO THAT BUILDING? FOR, FOR BUSINESS? WELL, I HAVE A STAFF THAT WORKS THERE FROM EIGHT TO SIX EVERY DAY.

YOU DO THE EIGHT TO 12.

AND THE REASON I CHANGED THAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING, , WHEN I FIRST GOT IN THERE, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT WE HAD TO BE DOWN THERE AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

SO I HAD SOMEONE DOING A LOT OF COMPLAINING WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE AND THEY OPPOSED THE FIRST THING.

SO EVERY LITTLE THING I DID OUT OF THE ORDINARY, THEY WERE COMPLAINING.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER MY BASES.

NORMALLY BY SIX O'CLOCK WE'RE GONE.

BUT THERE IS TIMES THAT IF SOMEBODY'S COMING FROM DALLAS OR WE GET THEIR FAMILY OUT LATE, THEN WE MAY MEET 'EM THERE AT 9, 10, 10 30.

I'VE AS LATE AS 11 SOMETIMES, UH, MEET 'EM DOWN THERE.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CLOSING AT NINE O'CLOCK AND THEY'RE DOWN THERE DOING BUSINESS.

SURE.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER THE SPECTRUM.

BUT OUR NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS OCCUPIED BUSINESS HOURS IN THE OFFICE ARE EIGHT TO SIX, EIGHT TO FIVE MOST DAYS IF NOTHING'S GOING ON.

UM, IF THERE'S NO, NO OTHER DISCUSSION, UH, FROM COUNSEL, THIS, THIS DOESN'T PERTAIN TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN IF, IF WE CHANGE THE WAY THAT THIS THIS IS WRITTEN, DO WE NEED TO PUT ALL OF THE OTHER INFORMATION IN THERE AS WELL? TERRY? IT'LL, IT, IT'LL GO INTO THE

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SUP ORDINANCE ITSELF.

SO WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

AT THESE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

TRENTON, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING.

ITEM EIGHT, CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 6 20 25.

ALRIGHT,

[8. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-6-2025]

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 6 20 25.

A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAIL BOND AGENCY USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE NEED TO INSERT LANGUAGE STATING? YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD ADD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION IN THE MOTION THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING, THE FIVE YEAR TIME LIMIT ON THE SUP AND REMOVAL OF THE SIDEWALK SIGNAGE, UH, AND REMOVAL OF THE WINDOW SIGN.

NO FURTHER ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY.

THE DECORATIVE LIGHTS CAN REMAIN AND THE OPEN SIGN CAN REMAIN.

YOU GOT THAT? WHAT ABOUT THE, THE LIGHTS, THE FACADE.

SO JUST INSERT INTO YOUR, SO JUST AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING TERRY JUST SAID AND ADD ONE THING AND THE TWO LIGHTS THAT ARE ON THE OVERHANG.

THE TWO FLOODLIGHTS.

THE TWO FLOODLIGHTS, YEAH.

THE OTHER LIGHTS WOULD BE, WOULD BE REVIEWED TO, TO, TO, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING CITY LIGHT STANDARDS.

IF YOU WANNA TAKE A SHOT AT THAT, WE, WE CAN JUST ADD THAT INTO, IF YOU COULD JUST SAY, SO MOVED.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

SO MOVED.

, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

[9. Consider proposed Ordinance cancelling the City Council General Election currently scheduled for May 3, 2025 and declaring Billie Wallace for At-Large Council Member Place 4 and Travis Smith for At-Large Council Member Place 5, elected as Waxahachie City Council Members for a two-year term]

NEXT ITEM.

CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE COUNT CANCELING THE CITY COUNCIL GENERAL ELECTION, CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR MAY 3RD, 2025.

AND DECLARING BILLY WALLACE FOR AT LARGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE FOUR.

AND TRAVIS SMITH FOR AT LARGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE FIVE, ELECTED AS W CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.

AMBER? YES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU IS JUST CANCELING THE ELECTION FOR THE MAY 3RD.

UH, WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE GENERAL ELECTION? ALL FILING DEADLINES HAD PASSED.

THE WRITE-IN DEADLINE HAS PASSED AND BOTH CANDIDATES WERE UN OPPOSED.

SO, I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL FOR AMBER? NO.

AMBER? MM-HMM .

IF NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE CANCELING THE MAY 3RD, 2025 GENERAL ELECTION AS PRESENTED.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

REHABILITATION PROJECT KUMAR.

COUNSEL.

[10. Consider Engineering Professional Services Agreement for Water Storage Tanks Rehabilitation Project]

ITEM 10.

CONSIDER ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR WATER STORAGE TANKS.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

UH, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

UM, WE ARE REQUESTING A PROFESSIONAL, UH, SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH, UH, COASTAL WIND FORCE, UH, CONSULTING FIRM, UH, FOR REHABILITATION OF, UM, THE HIGHLAND AVENUE ELEVATED TANK AND, UH, GRAND AVENUE GROUND STORAGE TANK.

UM, WE DO THIS REHABILITATION EVERY 20 YEARS, UH, TO MAKE SURE STRUCTURALLY, UM, THE STRUCTURE IS GOOD.

AND ALSO THE INTERIOR OF THE ELEVATED TANK AND THE GROUND STORAGE TANK, UM, MEETS ALL THE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THIS IS AN UPROOT CIP PROJECT, UM, AND IT IS FUNDED THROUGH 2024, UH, WATER BOND SALE.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SOUTH WAXAHATCHEE, THAT'S WHAT DICTATES.

COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM.

SEEING THAT, I JUST HAVE A BASIC ON HOW DO WE DECIDE WHEN WE ELEVATE A TANK AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE PUT ONE IN THE GROUND? IT'S, UM, IT'S MOSTLY DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF THE CONNECTIONS WE HAVE IN THE CITY, UM, THAT DICTATES, UH, THE, THE ELEVATED NUMBER OF THE ELEVATED TANKS WE NEED.

UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO WATER PLANTS.

UH, AND SO IT'S DIVIDED INTO TWO ZONES.

THE NORTH ZONE, IN THE SOUTH ZONE.

UM, SO BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS IN THE NORTH WAXAHATCHEE AND BASED ON THE CONNECTION

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BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT, UM, NEAR THERE.

WE DO HAVE AN ELEVATED TANK IN OUR CIP PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

IS THAT GONNA BE SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN OR IT'LL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THERE IS, THERE'LL BE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, THAT THAT'LL, BUT THAT'LL BE, UH, BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER.

LEARN SOMETHING NEW.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COASTAL WINDFORCE INC.

FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE HIGHLAND AVENUE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND THE GRAND AVENUE GROUND WATER STORAGE TANK AND THE AMOUNT OF $170,000.

AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

NEXT ITEM, CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES KUMAR.

[11. Consider supplemental appropriation for prior year encumbrances]

YEP.

UM, MADAM MAYOR, UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, UH, WE HAD, UH, PROJECTS, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND ALSO PURCHASE OF CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, UH, IN WATER FUND BASED WATER FUND AND SOCAL FUND.

UM, ALL THOSE, UH, PROJECTS, THE CIP PROJECTS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WERE APPROVED BY, UH, THE COUNCIL IN THE BUDGET AND, UM, AND, AND WERE ENCUMBERED, UH, TO THE VENDORS.

AND THEN, UM, THIS PROJECTS TOOK LONGER, UM, THAN THE, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTS ARE STILL CONTINUING.

AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24, THE UNSPENT, UM, FUNDS FOR ALL THIS, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT WENT BACK INTO THE UNRESOLVED FUND BALANCE.

UM, SO, BUT WE NEED THOSE FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE, THE CAP PURCHASING THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, AND ALSO THE CAPITAL IMPLEMENT PROJECTS.

UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, A SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION, UM, TO, UH, SUPPORT COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECTS TRANSFER, UH, THE FUNDS FROM THE UNRESOLVED FUND BALANCE, UM, INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.

THIS IS NOT NEW MONEY.

IT'S THE, IT'S THE SAME MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

IT WASN'T SPENT DUE TO THE DELAYS OF EQUIPMENT LEAD TIMES.

SO IT WENT BACK TO THE FUND BALANCE, AND NOW WE ARE REQUESTING IT TO ADD IT TO THE PHYSICAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.

COUNSEL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, THIS, THIS AMOUNT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PUT BACK IN, ARE, ARE THOSE THOSE AMOUNTS THE SAME? LIKE THIS PROJECT DIDN'T GO UP, DID IT? NO, SIR.

IT'S, UH, THE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS, UM, REQUIRED.

UM, IT'S THE SAME FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSIONAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE TOTAL SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $1,515,957 FROM THE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCES OF THE WATER FUND, SOCAL FUND, AND WASTEWATER FUND TO ACCOUNT FOR PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

NEXT ITEM, CONSIDER ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM SMOKE TESTING AND MANHOLE CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

[12. Consider annual contract for Sanitary Sewer System Smoke Testing and Manhole Condition Assessment]

KUMAR .

LAST ONE, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH INSTITUTE FORM, UH, FOR SMOKE TESTING, UM, APPROXIMATELY 38,000 LINEAR FEED OF OUR SERVER.

AND, UH, APPROXIMATELY 190 MANHOLES CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF MANHOLES.

UM, WE, WE, AS A CITY, WE'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE, UM, IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING, UM, INFLOW AND INFILTRATION PROBLEMS IN OUR SANITARY SEWS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

UH, THIS IS THE 10TH PHASE, UH, OF THE PROACTIVE PROGRAM.

UM, SO, UH, AND, AND THIS IS AN APPROVED, UH, BUDGET IN OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL,

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SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

, I MOVED TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH INCI FORM TECHNOLOGIES, LLC FOR SANITARY SEWER SMOKE TESTING AND MANHOLE CONDITION ASSESSMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $107,535.

AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

WELL, COME ON.

COME ON.

OR JUST SIT, SAT DOWN.

DENNY, YOU, YOU'RE DONE.

NO, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU TONIGHT, DON'T THEY? YOU STAY UP THERE FOR A WHILE LONGER.

[13. Consider Professional Service Agreement for Waxahachie Impact Fee Program Update]

NEXT ITEM.

CONSIDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR WCEI IMPACT FEE PROGRAM UPDATE JUSTIN.

THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY'S CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDERNEATH AN IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT WAS PREPARED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2020.

UH, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE PERFORM AN UPDATE TO THIS STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS.

UH, WE'VE EVALUATED DIFFERENT CONSULTING FIRMS AND FOUND THAT FREEZE IN NICHOLS, UM, IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR SYSTEM AND, UH, WOULD BE THE, THE BEST CONSULTING FIRM TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THIS UPDATED STUDY FOR US.

UH, THIS STUDY WILL INCLUDE, UH, STREETS AND WATER AND WASTE WATER AND, UH, BRING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHAT'S APPLICABLE FOR USE, UH, WITH IMPACT FEES.

AND, UH, I I DO NEED TO MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE STAFF REPORT UNDER THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.

THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT SHOULD READ $205,500.

UH, AND, UH, WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WILL THIS INCLUDE, UH, WE, WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO NOW.

UM, AND IT MIGHT EVEN JUST BEEN DURING A WORKSHOP, BUT WE DISCUSSED CHANGING OUR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

WILL THAT BE IN, NOT FEES, BUT THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ZONES? WILL THAT BE INCLUDED HERE AS WELL? YES, SIR.

YEAH, IT, THE PART OF THE PLAN WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE ROADS IS TO, UH, DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF COMBINING ZONES FOUR AND FIVE, UH, OUTRIGHT, AND THEN TO EVALUATE WHETHER WE CAN COMBINE ONE AND TWO AND SIX AND SEVEN.

AWESOME.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

IS THERE QUESTION ON THE DISCUSSION? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MS. PIT? UM, WHATEVER.

IF I'M AT ORDER, THEN I, YEAH, THE, THE PROBLEM IS, UH, MS. BETTY IS, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ALREADY OVER.

I MEAN THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH FRIES AND NICHOLS INCORPORATED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE WATER, SEWER AND ROADWAY IMPACT FEES IN THE, EXCUSE ME, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $205,500 FOR THE WAXAHATCHEE IMPACT FEE PROGRAM UPDATE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

ALRIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO THE, UH, COMMENTS BY MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER.

[14. Comments by Mayor, City Council, City Attorney and City Manager]

START TO OUR RIGHT DOWN THERE.

NOTHING MADAM MAYOR.

HOW ABOUT YOU? UH, JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, UH, CHRIS WRIGHT IS ACTUALLY OUT OF STATE WITH HIS, UH, UH, SON WHO'S PRESENTING IN A, UH, IN A SCHOLASTIC, UH, UM, A, A SCHOLASTIC PROGRAM AND, UM, WAS I THINK IN MINNESOTA.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY IT'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT WE WISH, WE WISH THEM WELL IN THEIR TRAVELS AND ALSO IN THE PRESENTATION OF THIS SCHOLARLY ARTICLE.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, AND DOWN ON MY LEFT, SEAN, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING DOWN THERE? NO, ALBERT, NOTHING.

AND THE VENDORS AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, THAT PULLED OFF ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL, UM, INFORMED, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL SAFE, UM, MARDI GRAS PARADE AND FESTIVITIES IN, IN, IN DOWNTOWN.

UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES.

UM, BIG SHOUT OUT AND, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE STAFF

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IT WAS, UH, TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET YOUR FOOD AT SOME PLACES 'CAUSE IT WAS SO BUSY, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THEM.

UM, YEAH.

AND IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY AND HE HAPPENS TO BE AT THE FRONT DOOR, HE'LL BRING YOU SOME HUSH PUPPIES IF HE SEES YOU IN TIME.

UM, SO A BIG THANK YOU THERE, UM, TO ALL THAT WERE INVOLVED.

UM, AND THEN, UM, MAD MAYOR, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING OH, UNOPPOSED.

THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT.

AND A BIG THANK YOU TO TERRY.

UM, IT WAS KIND OF AN OFFHAND COMMENT THAT ALBERT AND I WERE DISCUSSING AFTER A WORK SESSION, BUT TO GET THAT ORDINANCE DRAFTED IN ON THE AGENDA, UM, IN WHAT, TWO WEEKS, A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS? YEAH, TWO WEEKS.

UM, TO UP THAT, THAT PROCEDURAL MOVE TO ALLOW THE, THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS FOR, UH, PROJECTS, UM, A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY THAN HAVING TO COME BACK THROUGH TO US.

UM, SO BIG THANKS, SIR.

COUNCILMAN ATKINS.

WELL, COUNCILMAN SMITH JUST STOLE MY THUNDER ABOUT, BUT I, I WANT TO REITERATE, UM, TO STAFF AND, AND ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN, IN HATCHIE GRAS, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A FUN TIME HAD BY ALL.

UM, I SAW NOTHING BUT, UH, FAMILIES AND, AND FOLKS JUST HAVING A REALLY, UH, SAFE AND WONDERFUL AFTERNOON.

UH, WE RAN OUTTA CRAWFISH ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK, WHICH WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING, BUT, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, COUNCILMAN SMITH AND THE MAYOR WALLACE FOR YOUR REELECTION.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

UM, ALSO, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, DUSTIN DEAL FOR THE LAST, UH, COUPLE DAYS.

OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES AT, AT CITY HALL WITH OUR AIR CONDITIONING UNIT.

AND, AND, AND DUSTIN REALLY HAS BEEN, BEEN THE ONE RUNNING POINT ON, UH, THAT THOSE REPAIRS AS WELL AS, UH, DOING SOME ADDITIONAL TESTING AND ALL.

AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE'LL BE BACK OPEN FOR BUSINESS TOMORROW AT THE BEATTY BUILDING.

AND SO, DUSTIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

AND ALICE, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME, SOME OUTREACH AS FAR AS KEEPING EVERYONE INFORMED AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND, UM, ALBERT, OF COURSE, WAS RIGHT THERE AS WELL, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, THAT, UH, THINGS WERE MOVING FORWARD.

SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THAT.

WE'LL BE BACK IN BUSINESS TOMORROW.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

UH, FIRST OFF, I JUST, UH, AGAIN, WANT TO, UH, SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU KIM, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT, UH, YOU AND WADE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND, AND DO IN THE LAST SIX, SIX AND A HALF YEARS.

UM, YOU'VE BEEN A, YOU TWO HAVE BEEN A, A REAL BLESSING TO SO MANY FAMILIES OVER THE YEARS, AND, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.