* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] READY? PATRICK? YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING. [1. Call to Order] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I AM, UH, MAYOR BILLY WALLACE, AND I'M GLAD TO, UH, SEE ALL OF YOU HERE TONIGHT. UH, WHETHER YOU HAVE AN, UH, INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM OR NOT, THANK YOU FOR CARING ABOUT WAXAHATCHEE. WITH THAT, UM, WE WILL DO THE INVOCATION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT THAT'S GONNA DO THAT? I WASN'T NOTIFIED OF ANYBODY, SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT IF YOU WOULD. PLEASE STAND. GRACIOUS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING, UH, FIRST TO, TO PRAISE YOU AND TO GLORIFY YOU FOR, FOR LOVING US, LORD, AND FOR ALL OF OUR BLESSINGS, UH, THE ONES THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND THE ONES THAT WE, UH, DO NOT RECOGNIZE. UH, FATHER GOD, BE WITH US, UH, TONIGHT, UH, CITY COUNCIL AS WE MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS, UH, FOR THE CITY. AND, UM, JUST BE WITH EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT AND, UH, IN THEIR SITUATION. LORD, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE SITUATIONS ARE. UH, IF THERE'S SOMEONE HERE TONIGHT THAT NEEDS TO BE LIFTED UP FROM ILLNESS OR, OR ANY OTHER, UH, ISSUE OR AILMENT, I JUST LIFT THEM UP TO YOU TONIGHT. AND I PRAISE, I PRAISE YOUR NAME, LORD, AND I ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR HOLY SON'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. IF YOU WOULD FACE THE FLAG, I PLEDGE IS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ME, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. YOU WELCOME. WE [4. Public Comments] WILL START WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. PERSONS MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUES. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY CONCERN WHETHER ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT COMMENT OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS DURING THIS PERIOD, EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 5 1 0 4 2 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. IF THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM ON HERE, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM. UH, SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, THAT MAY BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME, UH, TO COME UP. UH, BUT NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANYONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY. MY NAME IS MIKE LANGFORD, AND I LIVE AT ONE 10 REDMOND LANE HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE. UM, I RAN A TOURNAMENT THIS LAST AUGUST CALLED THE YOUTH WORLD BASEBALL CLASSIC. AND, UH, WE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY AND, AND LORI'S OFFICE. AND I JUST WANTED TO COME TONIGHT AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR ALLOWING US TO HOST THAT EVENT. IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. UH, WE JUST OPENED REGISTRATION YESTERDAY FOR NEXT AUGUST EVENT. WE'VE ALREADY GOT COMMITMENTS FROM 36 TEAMS OUT OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE HERE TO WAXAHATCHEE AND SHOW UP OUR CITY. AND THEN THERE'S A SHORT RECAP VIDEO, GIRL. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. SEEING NONE, I WILL MOVE [5. Consent Agenda] TO [00:05:01] THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM FIVE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM. ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNSEL, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS AS NECESSARY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU COUNCIL. [6. Introduce Honorary Council Member] NEXT ITEM IS THE HONORARY COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH WE WILL HAVE AN HONORARY COUNCIL MEMBER AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, OF THIS MONTH. [7. Recognize Daniel Christie, Parks Department, for receiving his Backflow Assembly Tester License] NEXT ITEM, RECOGNIZE DANIEL KRIS CHRISTIE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR RECEIVING HIS BACKFLOW ASSEMBLY TESTER LICENSE. KYLE, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNSEL, IT'S, UM, MY PRIVILEGE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE AND INTRODUCE DANIEL CHRISTIE FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UH, HE JOINED US IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND SINCE THEN HAS PASSED HIS BACKFLOW ASSEMBLY TESTER LICENSE. AND WITH THAT, WE EXPECT TO SAVE, UM, $10,000 THIS YEAR ALONE IN JUST INSPECTION FEES. SO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR HIS EFFORTS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. YEAH, LET'S GET A, A PHOTOGRAPH IF WE COULD. THANK YOU. [8. Request to appear by David Hudgins, President of the Waxahachie Arts Council, to present Annual Financial Report for Waxahachie Arts Council and consider request to extend contract] NEXT ITEM, REQUEST TO APPEAR BY DAVID HUDGENS, PRESIDENT OF THE W HECHE ARTS COUNCIL TO PRESENT ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR W ARTS COUNCIL AND CONSIDER REQUEST TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU THE ANNUAL REPORT AND, UH, TO ASK FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND, UH, WE'VE JUST HAD ONE YEAR ROLL OFF, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION ON THAT. THE EIGHT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THAT MAKE UP THIS GROUP, UH, EACH ONE WANTS TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT FROM THE HOTEL, MOTEL, BED, AND BREAKFAST AND AIRBNB, UH, BUSINESS IN OUR CITY. UH, THESE PROGRAMS DO SO MUCH TO MAKE OUR CITY A A BETTER PLACE. AND, UH, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A, UH, STATEMENT ON EACH OF THE EIGHT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, OF THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENT. AND BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THIS IS A NEW FORM THAT WE'VE CAME, UH, CAME UP WITH TO, UH, TRY TO SIMPLIFY. AND, UH, SO IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THAT FORM THAT YOU DON'T LIKE OR THAT YOU THINK, UH, IS MISSING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO THAT WE CAN CORRECT THAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT INSTEAD OF YOU GETTING A PILE OF PAPERWORK TO GO THROUGH, WE'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE IT DOWN A FEW SHEETS. THAT, THAT IT'S THE BASIC INFORMATION. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE, UH, ALL OF THAT PAPERWORK. SO SHOULD YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ANY OF THE EIGHT, UH, IN THE GROUP, UH, WE WOULD BE, UH, HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND GO INTO MORE DETAIL. UH, JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE BESIDES THAT NEW FORM, AT OUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, UH, [00:10:01] THE BOARD APPROVED, UH, ONE NEW ORGANIZATION, THE CROSSROADS OF TEXAS FESTIVAL, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SINGLE DAY EVENT WE HAVE IN WAXAHATCHEE. AND SO IN, UH, 2025, THEY WILL BE A FULL MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION IN RECEIVING THE FUNDS. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE, ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING OVER THE BYLAWS, UH, TO, UH, TRY TO UPDATE 'EM. IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE THE BYLAWS HAVE, HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, REALLY VISITED. SO WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, WE HOPE TO, UH, MAKE THOSE CHANGES, UH, IN PROBABLY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, AND THAT THAT BOARD WILL, WILL VOTE ON THOSE. BUT, UH, WE WILL KEEP THE CITY MANAGER INFORMED OF ALL OF THAT BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. SO I HOPE TONIGHT THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. UH, OTHERWISE, UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER YEAR ON THE, ON THE CONTRACT. UH, SO IF YOU'VE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I GUESS I'M OPEN. YES, SIR. I HAVE A COUPLE. YES. UM, WHY DID WE ADD CROSSROADS OR NOT WE, WHY DID Y'ALL ADD CROSSROADS TO THAT, WHEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CITY ALREADY PUTS BACK INTO? WELL, UH, THEY, THEY APPLIED, UH, TO, TO BE A MEMBER, AND THEY MET THE CRITERIA. AND, UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THEY HAD THE, PROBABLY THE, THE LARGEST EVENT IN THE CITY. UH, AND SO WE, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE. AND, UH, UH, EACH MEMBER KNOWS THAT THAT TAKES A LITTLE OF THEIR PIECE OF THE PIE AWAY. BUT THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT ORGANIZATION HAS, HAS PROVEN THAT IT'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. AND I KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR FROM THE BOB PHILLIPS TO THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S CONTINUATION OF IT. AND THIS YEAR WAS, WAS REAL GOOD. SO IF THEY APPLIED AND THEY MET THE CRITERIA AND THEY WERE ADDED, WHY HAS THE ELLIS COUNTY CHILDREN'S THEATER NOT BEEN ADDED? AND THEY'VE APPLIED SEVERAL TIMES? WELL, PART OF THAT IS, UH, IN THE BYLAWS, IT STATES THAT IF, IF THOSE NEEDS ARE ALREADY, UH, MET BY ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, WHICH THEY ARE, THEN UH, THAT IS, UH, A REASON TO DENY THAT. BUT THOSE NEEDS AREN'T BEING MET THE SAME WAY WITH THE ACHI COMMUNITY THEATER AS THEY ARE WITH THE ELLIS COUNTY CHILDREN'S THEATER. THEY'RE TWO ONE'S FOR KIDS AND ONE'S NOT. WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS, UH, THEY SUBMITTED THEIR STUFF, UH, ABOUT THE TIME I WAS BROUGHT ON, SO I WASN'T REALLY OVER IT. UH, AND THEY WERE, UH, TURNED DOWN AT THAT TIME. AND THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT NEED WAS ALREADY MET AND THAT YOU ARE NOT TO DUPLICATE IT. AND, UH, THAT WAS THE REASON THEY WERE, WERE TURNED DOWN AT THAT TIME. UH, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THEY RESUBMIT, THEN THE BOARD WILL LOOK AT IT AND, AND DETERMINE IF THEY, UH, MEET IT OR NOT. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY'VE RESUBMITTED SEVERAL TIMES AND HAVE BEEN DENIED EACH TIME. UM, I FEEL AS IF, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA BE DESIGNATING MONEY, UM, FROM OUR HOT TAXES, UM, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE INPUT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ONTO AS TO WHO IS RECEIVING SAID FUNDS. ALL, ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS, IS FOLLOW THE BYLAWS THAT ARE, THAT I INHERITED AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. I UNDERSTAND. BUT YEAH, DOING IT THE SAME WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT. UM, I HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH A, WITH, WITH A, WITH A YOUTH ORGANIZATION, UM, BEING TOLD THAT, THAT THEY DON'T QUALIFY OR THAT THEY, THEY'RE A DUPLICATE OF AN ADULT OR ORGANIZATION. NOW, GRANTED, THEY DO HAVE SOME CHILDREN WHO PARTICIPATE, BUT IT'S NOT GEARED TOWARDS JUST THE CHILDREN. UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON THERE. THERE'S SOME KIND OF CON THERE'S, WELL, THERE'S, I'M JUST SAYING SOME KIND OF PERSONALITY THING THAT'S GOING ON THERE. SINCE I HAVE, UH, TAKEN OVER THIS, NO ONE'S BROUGHT IT UP. NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING. UH, THE ONLY ONE WE'VE RECEIVED WAS CROSSROADS AND, UH, IT, IT MET THE CRITERIA AND, AND THE MEMBERS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT. WELL, THEY'VE COME TO SEVERAL OF [00:15:01] OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS TO SPEAK. OKAY. IT'S BEEN THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE COME TO SPEAK, BUT THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ANYTHING TO, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE SEVERAL TIMES. AND THEY, THEY SENT THE DOCUMENTATION TO US SHOWING THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY APPLIED SEVERAL TIMES, UM, AND BEEN TOLD NO. I KNOW THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, BUT THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANYTHING TO ME. I, I'M, I'M, I I'VE ONLY BEEN OVER THIS, UH, LESS THAN A YEAR, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO ME EXCEPT CROSSROADS. THAT IS THE ONLY ONE. SO MR. HUDGENS, THEY, THEY CAN REAPPLY AND THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT, UH, IN A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING. UH, BUT THEY, THEY CAN REAPPLY. YES. THERE'S NO, UH, WAITING PERIOD AFTER THEY'VE BEEN TURNED DOWN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO. UH, AND THE BYLAWS DO NOT ADDRESS IT, SO IT COULD BE SUBMITTED EVERY YEAR. NORMALLY YOU SAY THERE'S A TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COVERED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BYLAWS. OKAY. I KNOW THAT, BUT I JUST, A REQUEST, THIS ISN'T, THIS IS JUST A REQUEST AND AT LEAST FROM TWO COUNCILMEN, WHICH WOULD BE COUNCILMAN SMITH AND MYSELF, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHERS, BUT I JUST, SINCE HE JUST BROUGHT IT UP. MM-HMM. , I ASSUME THAT HE'S ON THE SAME PAGE WITH ME. LAST YEAR WHEN THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO US, THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GET THE MONEY BECAUSE THE BYLAWS SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T GIVE DUPLICATE SINCE YOU ALREADY HAD SOMEONE DOING THAT, YOU COULDN'T GIVE MONEY TO OTHER. AND ALL I'D ASK IS, IF YOU'RE REVIEWING THE BYLAWS NOW, WHICH YOU SAID Y'ALL ARE DOING, THAT YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TWO COUNCILMEN OR MAYBE MORE, THAT WOULD LACK FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE TO TWO DIFFERENT DRAMA TYPE SITUATIONS TO WHERE THE CHILDREN HAD SOME AND THE ADULTS HAD SOME, I'M NOT SELLING YOU TO DO IT, RIGHT? NO. I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT YOUR BYLAWS AND SEE IF YOU CAN WORK IT IN. NO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SMALL COMMITTEE HAS SAID IS THEY WANT THE, UH, STATE LAW ON IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT AND, AND, UH, UH, DECIDE IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY CHANGES. 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING. UH, WE WOULD ALSO, LIKE, WHATEVER WE DO ON OUR NEW BYLAWS IS WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GO OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT AND, AND, UH, THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE. TRUE. UH, SO THERE'S NO INTENT OF, OF TURNING SOMEONE DOWN, UH, THAT DOESN'T MEET THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS. I MEAN, SO, OKAY. BUT THEY CAN SUBMIT, UH, I'M ASSUMING EVERY YEAR, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT IS NOT DECIDED, IS TO HAVE EVERYBODY SUBMIT IT BY NOVEMBER 30TH. AND THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE TIME A YEAR, UH, STARTING THE NEW YEAR, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE PLAN ON SOMETHING FOR A YEAR, WHETHER IT BE THE SYMPHONY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY'D HAVE TO KNOW THEY HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY THAT THEY CAN HIRE AND DO THINGS, AND TO COME IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR YEAR AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA CUT YOUR FUNDS, UH, IS, AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, NOT SAYING WE'RE DOING IT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING IT ONCE A YEAR, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT IN BY NOVEMBER 30TH, AND THEN AT THAT BOARD MEETING IN, UH, JANUARY, IT WOULD BE DECIDED AT THAT TIME. SO, UH, IT'S JUST THAT CROSSROADS PUT THEIRS UP AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT GONNA BE APART UNTIL 2025. OKAY. I JUST HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THIS PROCESS, UM, AND IT NOT INCLUDING THE COUNCIL ON HOW, UH, THESE GROUPS ARE CHOSEN. UM, WE'RE DESIGNATING, WE'RE DESIGNATING TAX REVENUE TO A GROUP THAT HAS FULL CONTROL OVER WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING. WE'RE ADDING, WE'VE ADDED, WHAT, 40 SHORT TERM RENTALS OR MORE? UM, SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL HOT TAX THERE. WE HAVE A NEW HOTEL THAT'S BEING BUILT RIGHT HERE. UM, SO THERE'S MORE HOT TAX THERE. SO WE'RE ADDING TO THE, WE'RE WE'RE ADDING TO THEIR FUNDS. UM, UH, AND YET WE HAVE NO REAL IDEA OR INPUT ON WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW. THE BYLAWS STATE THAT, UH, BY THE BYLAWS, IT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN, UH, SELECT ONE MEMBER FROM THE COUNCIL TO BE ON THIS IF THEY WISH. OKAY. WE'LL, UH, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT. I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU PRESENTING TONIGHT. UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M, I'M NUMBER THREE ON THAT LIST. [00:20:01] I, I'VE, I'VE MET WITH, UH, THE CHILDREN'S GROUP AS WELL, AND I, I THINK IT WAS, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I LOOK, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS CONVERSATION GO FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM. SO THERE'S A REQUEST IN THERE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, CAN I GET A MOTION, UH, TO VOTE ON ITEM EIGHT? SHOULD WE NOT WAIT UNTIL AFTER THEY UPDATE THEIR BYLAWS IN JANUARY? IS THERE A A PRESSING NEED TO EXTEND BEFORE THEN? GENUINELY JUST, JUST ASKING. YEAH. THE, THE CONTRACT JUST HAS THE DATES AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE IT WOULD START JANUARY ONE THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST OF, OF 2027. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE TIMING IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. UM, D DOES THAT MEAN THAT NOBODY COULD BE ADDED IN THE NEXT YEAR? NO, I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS. I, I REALLY, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING. THIS IS SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA DESIGNATE 25% OF OUR HOT TAX TO THE ARTS COUNCIL TO ADMINISTER THAT BYLAWS ARE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION THAT'S TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS BY WHICH, UM, ENTITIES ARE ADDED OR REMOVED, AND HOW THAT BOARD IS OPERATED AND SET UP. OKAY. SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE. IT REALLY, I, I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T THINK THIS TIES YOUR HANDS IN, IN HAVING INPUT IN THE BYLAWS AT A LATER TIME. OKAY. THIS IS US JUST REAUTHORIZING THAT 24, SIR. 25% FOR THE THREE YEARS OF HOT TECH ITCH TIME, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? YOUR HONOR, MAY I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE 25% OF THE HOT TECHS FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL? DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, SECOND CORRECT. MICHAEL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S AN EXTENSION RATHER THAN THE APPROVAL. CORRECT. SO IT'S APPROVAL OF THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION, RIGHT. TO MAKE A STRESSFUL THREE YEARS BECAUSE THEY'D BE DONE TWO YEARS OUTTA THIS CAMP. RIGHT NOW I MOVE, WE MAKE AN APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION FOR AN EXTRA YEAR TO THE, HAVE THE 25% OF THE HOT TAX THAT GOES TO THE ARTS COUNCIL. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PLEASE. UH, MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. NEXT [9. Continue Public Hearing on a request by Matthew Smith, Darwood Partners, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Convenience Store and Gasoline Sales use within a General Retail zoning district located at the northwest corner of Broadhead Road and Garden Valley Parkway (Property ID 242234) – Owner: WP Legacy LTD (ZDC-139- 2024)] ITEM NUMBER NINE IS CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY MATTHEW SMITH, DAR WOOD PARTNERS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GASOLINE SALES USE WITHIN A GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT. LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROADHEAD ROAD AND GARDEN VALLEY PARKWAY. OWNER WP LEGACY LTD. THIS IS ZDC 1 39 20 24. JENNIFER, THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNSEL, UH, JUST FOR ONE MOMENT, UM, STAFF HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT FOLLOWING STAFF'S PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PREPARED A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING. SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD BEFORE I START MY PRESENTATION, UM, THAT WAY, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. OKAY. THANK YOU, JENNIFER? YES, MA'AM. UH, THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE I USE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, CDC 1 39 20 24, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES FOR SEVEN 11. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.5 ACRES IN SIZE. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL RETAIL GR AND AS I NOTED, UM, THE USE THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS SUBJECT TO, UH, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE ZONING WAS CHANGED IN 2002. UM, PREVIOUSLY THE ZONING WAS, UM, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FD AND THE ZONING WAS CHANGED, UM, AS PART OF THE GARDEN VALLEY PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT AT THAT TIME, THAT'S WHEN THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, WAS REZONED. WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION REGARDING A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE APPLICANT WILL TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL AS THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOU THIS EVENING. NOW, THE, UM, SEVEN 11 THAT'S PROPOSED IS APPROXIMATELY 4,800 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, 10 GASOLINE PUMPS AS PART OF THE PROJECT. THERE ARE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, ONE ON GARDEN VALLEY, AND THE OTHER ACCESS IS, UM, PROPOSED ON, UM, BROADHEAD ROAD. WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO ADD A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG GARDEN VALLEY, AND IN ADDITION [00:25:01] TO THAT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK ON THE PERIMETER OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AS WELL. UM, THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UM, FOR YOU THIS EVENING. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS REGARDING, UM, STREET TREES, ALSO ORNAMENTAL TREES, AND ALSO SHRUBS. WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES OR WAIVERS AS A PART OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. NOW, AS PART OF THE BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED, THE APPLICANT HAS IDENTIFIED THE, UM, VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION ON ALL OF THE FACADES. UM, THE MATERIALS ARE STONE AND BRICK. THEY'VE INCLUDED THOSE MATERIALS, UM, TO WRAP THE, UM, SUPPORTS FOR THE CANOPY AS WELL AS THEY'LL, UM, INCLUDE THAT SAME MATERIAL. ON THE, UM, TRASH ENCLOSURES PROPOSED ON SITE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A FULL, UM, SIGN PACKAGE. WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PACKET FREE THIS EVENING. THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY POLL SIGNS OR ANY SIGNS THAT EXCEED THE, UM, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR MONUMENT TYPE SIGNAGE. WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, UM, OR AT LEAST IN THE PRESENTATION, A, UH, SATURATION MAP THAT IDENTIFIES THE 12, UM, GAS STATIONS THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ON 77. IT DOES ALSO IDENTIFY THE TWO, UM, GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES THAT ARE, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, ONE OF WHICH IS THE VALERO, UM, OFF OF FARLEY, AND ALSO THE QT OFF OF BROWN. SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PACKET THAT IDENTIFIES THOSE, UM, GAS STATIONS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED GAS STATION. NOW, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON, UM, THE 12TH OF NOVEMBER, P AND Z RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A FOUR TWO VOTE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF LETTERS, 41 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. NOW, EIGHT OF THOSE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION ARE INCLUDED IN THE 200 FOOT, UM, NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE STAFF, WE DID IDENTIFY ALL OF THE OPPOSITION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITHIN A HALF MILE. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE HALF MILE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE TWO PETITIONS THAT WE RECEIVED, 217 SIGNATURES FOR OPPOSITION. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ITEM. UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, THOSE ARE INCLUDED AS WELL. UM, WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN GENERAL RETAIL GR UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A LIST OF USES THAT THEY ARE EXCLUDING, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WHICH INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LIST OF USES THAT THEY ARE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UM, FOR, UM, EXCLUSION THAT WILL BE DEED RESTRICTED. SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, THAT DOES INCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, AND AS I NOTED, THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING. AND, UH, STAFF, WE CAN BRING THAT UP IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. UM, Y'ALL COULDN'T COME ON UP. IT'S IN THE PRESENT. IT'S, IT'S, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS MATTHEW SMITH WITH DARWIN PARTNERS. MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 0 4 MACON STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS. UM, SO SORRY I'M A LITTLE SICK. SO APOLOGY, UH, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO AS JENNIFER POINTED OUT, THIS IS OUR SIDE PLAN. IT, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT 10 PUMPS, IT'S 10 FUELING STATIONS. IT'S ONLY FIVE MPDS. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND WE'RE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE'RE ACTUALLY EXTENDING BOTH THE WATER AND SEWER LINE TO LOOP [00:30:01] THE WATER LINE AND THEN EXTEND THE SEWER LINE OVER TO THE ADJACENT PARCEL AS WELL. UM, AND NEXT SLIDE. LANDSCAPE PLAN, AS YOU SAID, NO VARIANCES THERE. UM, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXISTING TREES. THE ISSUE WITH THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON SITE IS THAT WHEN WE DO EXTEND THE WATER AND SEWER LINE, THEY CANNOT BE WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THOSE LINES PER THE CITY ORDINANCE. SO, UM, AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. UM, ELEVATIONS, FULL MASONRY ELEVATIONS. UM, AND WE HAVE SOME, IF YOU'LL KEEP GOING DOWN, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID SOME 3D RENDERINGS OF THE SITE AS WELL. IT KIND OF, WHEN THE, UH, PRESENTATION FORMATTED, IT KIND OF MADE IT GRAINY. BUT, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS IF YOU JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SCROLL THROUGH 'EM, THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKETS AS WELL. UM, KEEP GOING, GOING THE LAST ONE. UM, SO WE MET WITH THE, UM, HO OR WE HAD A ZOOM CALL WITH HOAS BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UM, TO JUST WALK THROUGH OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSE USE AND GET SOME FEEDBACK. UM, AFTER THAT MEETING WE MET AND MADE SOME CHANGES THAT WE WILL TALK THROUGH HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT WHEN WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD, UH, REPRESENT AND THAT, UH, REQUEST WAS DENIED BY THE OAS, SO HERE WE ARE, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING WE CAN MITIGATE ALL ISSUES. SO, UM, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE LIGHTING CONCERNS, THAT'S THE PHOTOMETRIC BLEED. UM, BA WE, WE ARE FULLY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY. UM, THIS SLIGHT, UM, OFF SITE LIGHTING THERE IS FROM THE ENTRANCE LIGHTING MAINLY. UM, AND IT'S LESS THAN 0.2, UM, LUMENS. UH, AND THAT'S WITHIN CODE AS WELL. UH, SCROLL DOWN. SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FOR UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS, UM, INSTALLATION OF THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS IS HIGHLY REGULAR REGULATED BY TCEQ. UH, DOUBLE WALLED TANKS AND PIPING ALL USED, UM, ON SITE 24 7 MONITORING OF THE SPACE BETWEEN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY WALLS OF THE TANKS MONITORED BY THE STORE. AND A THIRD PARTY, UH, 24 7 MONITORING OF A PROBE IN THE TANK. UM, TANK TIGHTNESS AND LINE TESTS DONE ANNUALLY. AND THEN THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS OF ALL VISIBLE EQUIPMENT ARE DONE MONTHLY. LEMME GO. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO IT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING THE P AND Z, UH, MEETING, SO THE FUEL VENTS, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, REPORTS THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, IT WAS PUBLISHED ONLINE THAT THEY HAD ON THEIR FACEBOOK GROUP OR ONE OF THE HOAS DID. UM, SO THAT HEALTH EFFECTS OF ARY GAS STATIONS ARE NOT WELL UNDERSTOOD. UM, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO NOT PUTTING ELEMENTARY, OR SORRY, ANY SCHOOLS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A SCHOOL, BUT THAT DEFINITION WAS FOR LARGE FORMAT GAS STATIONS LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AT THE QT ON I 35 AND BUTCHER DOING OVER 3.6 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR. UM, AND THEN USES THAT COULD HAVE FUEL VENTS ALLOWED BY RIGHT CAR DEALERSHIP, TOOL AND EQUIPMENT RENTAL, MUNICIPAL AND FACILITIES, AND THEN A DIFFERENT AIRBORNE, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M SORRY, NOUSE. YEAH, NOUSE WOULD BE THE CREMATORIUM. AND ACTUALLY IT'S SMALL, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FROM WHERE THEY ARE TO THE SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY 1300, UH, WHAT IS IT? THREE FEET. SO, UM, GO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE DID IT LIKE, UH, JENNIFER MENTIONED WE DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT, UM, STATED WHILE THE VEHICLES PER DAY, UM, WOULD FALL FOR A FOUR-WAY, STOP THE 15 TO 22ND VEHICLE DELAY, WHICH IS REQUIRED AS A SECOND STAGE OF WHAT WOULD, UM, FOUR STOP, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUTE A FOUR-WAY STOP IS NOT MET AFTER OUR BUILD OUT. THE 25 TO 32ND VEHICLE DELAY WOULD, UM, TRIGGER THAT SECOND WARRANT. AND SO WE WOULD BE INSTALLING A FOUR-WAY STOP THERE, IN ADDITION TO LOOK PER THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE LOOKING AT ALL MAJOR INTERSECTIONS WITHIN A MILE IN A FULL TIA, WHICH WE WOULD COMPLETE UPON APPROVAL, UM, AND FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. UM, SO, UH, SORRY, GO DOWN. UM, SO THERE WAS SOME TALK AT THE PNZ MEETING THAT THE CAMERA, WE USED TO, UM, COUNT PEDESTRIANS WALK IN THE INTERSECTION WAS OFF. THERE WAS A LOT MORE THAN, [00:35:01] UM, WAS SHOWN. SO WE PUT A CAMERA UP, UM, FOR FOUR DAYS, TUESDAY TO FRIDAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING. AND DURING THAT THREE TO FOUR, NO, SORRY, THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING, UM, THE NUMBERS LINED UP WITH OUR TIA AND THE RAW DATA FOR THE TIA IS IN THE BACK OF Y'ALL'S PACKETS. IT'S EVERY 15 MINUTES. UM, SO, AND THAT'S FROM THREE TO FOUR. AND THEN IT'S MAINLY A WINDOW FROM THREE 15 TO THREE 30 IS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW PEDESTRIANS, BUT AFTER THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT MANY. UM, AND THAT RECORDED FOR 24 HOURS A DAY. UM, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, SO THIS INTERSECTION IS AT A MA, UM, MINOR ARTERIAL AND MAJOR COLLECTOR, UM, ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2023, UH, GO DOWN. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL BE ADDING, ADDING THE STOP SIGNS, MAKING THE SUPPORT WAY STOP. IN ADDITION TO THAT, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK SO THAT THE, THE ANYBODY THAT'S WALKING, NOBODY WOULD EVER HAVE TO WALK IN FRONT OF THE CARS LEAVING OR ENTERING THAT ACCESS POINT. THEY CAN WALK AROUND THE SITE AS AN ALTERNATIVE MEASURE IF, IF, IF THEY SEE FIT. UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE, UM, ADDED, WORKED WITH STAFF TO, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CROSSING SIGNS, UM, AS THEY APPROACH THE INTERSECTION. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE OPERATIONS. SO LOITERING, UH, SEVEN 11 AREA MANAGERS SAID THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY, THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH THIS AT THE EXISTING LOCATIONS. UM, AND TO HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, KEEPING OFFICERS BY SEVEN 11 HAS ALWAYS OFFERED FREE COFFEE AND DRINKS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE PRESENCE ON SITE, UM, AND THE SALE OF NICK TEAM AND OTHER PRODUCTS AND MINORS. SO EVERY EMPLOYEE IS TAB CER, TABC CERTIFIED. AND EVERY SORT, UM, PARTICIPATES IN THE BAR, SECRET CHOPPER PROGRAM, WHICH BASICALLY HAPPENS TWICE A MONTH WHERE SOMEBODY COMES IN, MAKES SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE CHECKING IDS, AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE REPORT IT AT THE CORPORATE LEVEL. SO, UM, SO GETTING TO ZONING, ZONING DEFINITIONS. SO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AT THE TOP IS LEAST RESTRICTIVE, OR SORRY, MOST RESTRICTIVE GENERAL RETAIL WOULD BE JUST UNDER THAT. AND THEN COMMERCIAL FOR RETAIL TYPE USES. UM, UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEFINITION, CONVENIENCE STORES ARE INCLUDED, WHEREAS THIS IS GENERAL RETAIL. AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SAYS, UH, TRA UH, OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS OF TRAFFIC SERVICE REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS MEANS GENERAL RETAIL. WE JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THE DEFINITIONS IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. UM, NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS WAS ZONED GENERAL RETAIL IN 2002. GENERAL RETAIL IS THE BASE ZONING FOR 14 OF THE 21 APPROVED CONVENIENCE STORES IN WAXAHATCHEE. UM, AND HOUSE BILL 24 39 UH, DICTATES THAT MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT, UH, DICTATE BUILDING MATERIALS. UM, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THAT LIST RIGHT THERE IS WHAT WE WILL BE, UM, INCLUDING IN THE DEED RESTRICTION, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT PAGE, I BELIEVE. OR, UH, SORRY, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST USES ALLOWED. KEEP GOING. I, I THINK WE HAVE, YEAH, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, YEAH. UM, SO THIS IS THE DEED RESTRICTION, UM, PROBABLY WON'T BE USED FOR THE FOLLOWING USES THERE. AND THEN ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF 80%, UH, MASONRY CONSTRUCTION ON ALL BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE ZONES, WHICH FOR THAT HOUSE BILL, UH, CANNOT BE DICTATED. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, SO YEAH, JUST A QUICK ECONOMIC IMPACT. WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE EXTENDING THE SEWER AND WATERLINE. OUR PERMIT AND IMPACT FEES ALONE ARE OVER $200,000. THE ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX ESTIMATE IS 50 TO $60,000 AND THE SEVEN 11 DOESN'T RELEASE THEIR SALES PROJECTIONS TO US, BUT THE OTHER TWO STORES DO VERY WELL IN THE AREA AND PROVIDE A LOT OF TAX REVENUE. SO THE LAST THING IS, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. SO SEVEN 11 IS, IS, UH, DOES INVEST COMMUNITY, THEY PICK OUT THE NEAREST SCHOOL AND PROVIDE ONGOING, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, HIRE LOCAL AND THEN THEY HAVE A PROJECT, A GAME, WHICH HAS BEEN COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT THEY RUN. SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, I, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR ME THAT I CAN ANSWER, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO START. UM, THAT PEDESTRIAN STUDY THAT YOU DID, WAS THAT ON SCHOOL DAYS? YEAH, IT WAS. SO THE FIRST [00:40:01] ONE IN THE TIA WAS ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 20. UM, I FORGET WHAT DAY IT WAS, BUT, AND THEN THE, THE CAMERA WE PUT UP WAS THE 18TH THROUGH THE 22ND, I BELIEVE. 19TH THROUGH THE 22ND. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YES. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD COME TO JENNIFER OR YOU GUYS, BUT ADD DIFFERENT PHOTOS THERE. THE ONE PHOTO YOU HAD UP SHOWED THE SIDEWALK COMING FROM THE HAMILTON DOWN GARDEN VALLEY AND STOPPING AT BROADHEAD. 'CAUSE YOU WERE GONNA BUILD A SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY. SO WE HA WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO BOTH. SO YOU'RE GONNA COME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BROADHEAD AND THEN DOWN BROADHEAD. SO IT'LL GO, SO THE ONE ON BROADHEADS EXISTING, SEE THAT PICTURE THERE WHERE IT STOPS? YEAH. SO THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. YEAH. ON, ON BROADHEAD. SO IS IT THE ONE ON BROADHEAD? YOU'RE JUST RUNNING INTO THE EXISTING ONE ON BROADHEAD? CAN YOU GO TO THE FULL SIDE PLANE? UM, NO, SORRY. UH, KEEP GOING DOWN. IT'S ANOTHER COLOR ONE. KEEP GOING DOWN BECAUSE THE COLOR ONE SHOWS IT. SORRY, KEEP GOING DOWN. UM, IT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THE SIDEWALK WITH THE DASHES ON IT. SO YOU'RE JUST ATTACHING TO THE EXISTING ONE. BUT YOU ARE GONNA PUT YOUR, YOUR, THE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK SAYING YOU'LL PUT A SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY AROUND. IT'S REQUIRED IN THE, UH, IT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT WILL BE REQUIRED. IT'S IN THE WHAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO. NO, IT'S NOT. UM, SECOND THING YOU SAID WAS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THE, THE TWO DIFFERENT ONES YOU'VE DONE, BUT THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IF IT GOT APPROVED AND THEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESSING OR THE PERMIT PROCESSING. YES. YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. YES. AND IT THAT RIPPED OVER ME REAL QUICK. OKAY. SO WE WERE, YOU SAY ON EVERY INTERSECTION, WE WERE NOT, WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE FIRST ONE YOU WEREN'T, BUT THE ONE IN THE PROCESS OF, SO NOW SINCE THE STOP SIGNS ARE WARRANTED, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR EVERY MAJOR INTERSECTION WITHIN A MILE TO SEE HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT ANY OTHER TRAFFIC. AND THAT'S IN THE PROCESS TO GET A PERMIT TO DO THIS? YES. THAT'S A PART OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. SO EVEN IF WE PASS THIS, IF YOU DON'T PASS THAT, YOU CAN'T GET A PERMIT. CORRECT. UH, NEXT WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO, ANY IMPROVEMENTS IDENTIFIED WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE OKAY. TO ISSUE THE PERMIT. OKAY. YEAH. UH, THE FOUR-WAY STOP THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, IF, IF IT GOES THAT WAY AND IF IT GOES PASSED. MM-HMM. , WOULD YOU GUYS BE AMENABLE TO MAKING IT ONE OF THE FOUR-WAY STOPS THAT HAS THE LIGHTS THAT ARE AROUND IT THAT BLINK? THAT'S FINE. THAT DRAWS ATTENTION TO IT. YES. SAME THING WITH THE CROSSING SIGNS THAT SHOW THAT THERE'S A SCREW CROSSING AND ALL THAT ABOVE. YES. AND YOU HAD BLINKING LIGHTS AROUND. WE WERE TRYING TO PUT 'EM IN THERE, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY WORK FOR THE PRESENTATION. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, WE TALKED ABOUT WITH SAP WAS THE ONES THAT DURING THE HIGHER VOLUME HOURS OF SCHOOL THAT THEY WOULD FLASH. RIGHT. FOR THE, FOR THE CROSSING SIGN AND THEN THE STOP SIGN. YES. WE WOULD BE, YES, WE'D BE OPEN TO THAT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, JENNIFER, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, GOING ACROSS THE, THE, IT'S, IT'S FURTHER DOWN THE, THE EXTRA SIDEWALK. KEEP GOING DOWN RIGHT THERE. KEEP GOING DOWN RIGHT THERE. YEP. OKAY. UM, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT HOW DOES YOUR, HOW DOES YOUR LIGHTING PLAN, BECAUSE IF, IF YOUR LIGHTING PLAN IS NOT, IS IS TRYING TO KEEP LIGHT ON THE SIDE ITSELF, THAT SIDEWALK'S GONNA BE IN THE DARK, IS IT NOT? YES. WOULD, WOULD, WOULD YOU NOT, UM, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO PUTTING THAT SIDEWALK UP ON THE EDGE OF THE ACTUAL PARKING LOT AREA WHERE YOUR APRONS GO OUT INTO THE PROPERTY? WE, I, YES, WE WOULD DO THAT. UM, IT WOULD, THE THOUGHT WAS IF THIS WERE TO BE DEVELOPED ADDITIONALLY, THEN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED AGAIN. BUT WE COULD ALSO DO A DEVELOP, PUT IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE NEXT PER OR THE DEED RESTRICTION, IF THE NEXT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT THE SIDEWALK NORTH OF THEIR PROPERTY. SO FOR THE, FOR THE TIME BEING, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE SIDEWALK COULD RUN PARALLEL, UH, YES. PARALLEL WITH THAT DRIVE AISLE, AND THEN IN THE RESTRICTION OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE COULD PUT IN THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD THEN RELOCATE THAT SIDEWALK NORTH OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. I JUST, I, I MEAN [00:45:01] I, I I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE. MM-HMM. . BUT I JUST, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IT'S, THAT'S A DARK'S, A DARK AREA. UNDERSTOOD. SO, AND THEN, UM, YOU SAID YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU, YOU MET WITH, WITH, WITH BOTH HOAS. WE HAD A ZERO PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARILY, YES. AND, AND I GUESS THEN BOTH HOAS. SO, UM, WE REACHED OUT TO BOTH HOAS. WE GOT A RESPONSE FROM, I BELIEVE BUFFALO RIDGE, AND THEN THEY SENT IT OUT TO OTHER MEMBERS, UH, ON THE CALL. WE WERE TOLD BOTH GARDEN VALLEY AND BUFFALO RIDGE WERE ON THAT INITIAL CALL. OKAY. BUT THEY, NEITHER, NEITHER HOA WANTED TO HAVE A SECOND MEETING. ONLY THE ONLY BUFFALO RIDGE DENIED THE REQUEST TO PRESENT AT THEIR BOARD. WHAT WAS IT? SO DID YOU MEET WITH THE OTHER HOA? WE DID NOT. THE SECOND TIME WE DID NOT WE, WAIT, SORRY. GARDEN VALLEY, YES. WE NEVER GOT A RESPONSE THE FIRST TIME FROM THEM. OKAY. WE NEVER GOT ANY EMAIL RESPONSE, ANYTHING. OKAY. SO, SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY HOA THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAD THE ZOOM WITH WAS BUFFALO RIDGE? WE WERE TOLD, WE WERE TOLD BOTH. SO THE ZOOM WENT OUT TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HOA PRESIDENT FORWARDED IT TO GARDEN VALLEY, BUT WE WERE TOLD MEMBERS OF BOTH HOAS WERE PRESENT IN ATTENDANCE. YES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND THEN TO FURTHER POINT, THERE WERE THINGS THAT, THAT WERE ADDRESSED FROM THAT ZOOM CALL, BUT ALSO IN ALL THE LETTERS WE RECEIVED AS WELL. SO OBVIOUSLY THOSE CAME FROM ALL OKAY. PARTIES. WE DO HAVE A CONFIRMATION FROM THE GARDEN VALLEY, HOA. IT'S, UH, MR. RYAN SMITH OUT OF FRISCO, UM, THAT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE CONTACT ON THE HO A'S BEHALF IS NO LONGER WITH THE HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY. UM, MONTY WAS, WAS HIS NAME. SO THAT HOA DID NOT RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION, WHICH IS NOT THE FAULT OF Y'ALL. I THINK WE NO, HE DID. HE DID. HE TOLD US HE WAS OUT AND SO WE GOT 3D UH, ADDITIONAL EMAILS TO SEND THAT OUT TO. YEAH. UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THOUGH. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED A CITY ORDINANCE THAT'S GOING TO PREVENT YOU FROM KEEPING THE EXISTING TREES. YES. WHY IS THAT? SO THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT ANY NEW SEWER LINES OR WATER LINES THAT ARE, NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE FOOT SPACING FROM THE BASE OF ANY TREES. SO BOTH OF THOSE WILL GO RIGHT THROUGH WHERE THOSE CURRENT TREES ARE. AND I THINK WE, WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS. UM, OH, THOSE TREES. NOT THE TREES ON THE, SIR, CAN I GET YOU TO STAND UP? I'M SORRY. THIS IS DOUG TON. HE'S MY PARTNER. HE SPEAKING TONIGHT IS GONNA BE DONE HERE AT THE PODIUM. OKAY. AND ANY, ANY OUT OF TURN SPEAKING NOT AT THE PODIUM IS GONNA BE ASKED TO LEAVE. YES, SIR. SO IF YOU BOTH PLAN ON SPEAKING, I NEED YOU TO BE RIGHT THERE, SIR, JUST YOU TO THAT JUMP RAWTON 6 4 2 1 DARWIN AVENUE FOR TEXAS. THANK YOU. CAN I, ON THAT PROPERTY, I SEE WHERE THE ACTUAL BUILDING IS. YES. AND THEN ALL THE WHITE AROUND IT IS QUOTE UNQUOTE EMPTY SPACE THAT, THAT'S BEHIND IT BETWEEN THE HAMILTON AND THE BACK OF WHAT THE PROPERTY IS. YES. NOW, IS THAT GONNA ALWAYS BE PART OF THAT SEVEN 11 PROPERTY AND NOTHING ELSE EVER BE BUILT ON THAT? OR ARE Y'ALL, SO WE'RE ONLY POSSIBLY GONNA PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE NOT, WE ARE ONLY PURCHASING THE 1.488 ACRES THERE. WE'RE SHOWING THIS, THIS SITE PLAN SHOWING, SHOWING ALL OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK. WELL, WHERE YOUR ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK IS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LAND FROM THE BACK OF THE SEVEN ONE TO THAT ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK. THAT'S ALL EMPTY LAND. YES. THAT'S OWNED, THAT WOULD BE OWNED BY THE CURRENT OWNER. AND SO HE COULD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FOOTAGES ARE THERE, BUT IF IT, IF SO THAT'S ABOUT FOUR ACRES. IF THE FOOTAGE IS ON THE FRONT FIT, HE COULD PUT ANOTHER BUSINESS THERE? YES. OKAY. AND TO THE, SO BOTH SIDES OF IT. YES. WELL, I REALIZE EVERYTHING ON BROADHEAD IS ALL MM-HMM. ZONE, GENERAL RETAIL ALL THE WAY DOWN, BUT, SO THAT'S NOT ALL JUST GONNA STAY THAT WAY. IT'S, IF IT WAS BUILT THERE, THERE WOULD BE A SEVEN 11 AND THEN AT SOME POINT THERE'S GONNA BE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE, JUST LIKE ACROSS THE STREET THERE, BOTH CORNERS. YES. BUT IT'LL ALL BE DEED RESTRICTED. YES. BOTH, BOTH PROPERTIES WILL BE DEED RESTRICTED ON THIS, THIS PAGE. YES. UM, THAT SHOWS, [00:50:01] THAT HAS A FEW OF THE BUSINESSES HIGHLIGHTED ARE THOSE ONES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RESTRICT IN THE DEED. YES. AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PAGE THAT SHOWS, UM, UH, THE FULL LIST. BUT YES, THOSE ARE ALL RESTRICTED. SO WE DID ADD SOME TO THAT. THEN THIS LIST, I MEAN, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE IT ON THE, THIS LIST DOESN'T MATCH THIS LIST. WELL, THE, SO THERE, THERE'S THAT LIST HAS, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A HOTEL MOTEL, THERE'S JUST ONE LINE ITEM ON THAT DEED RESTRICTION FOR ALL LODGING PLACES AND OUTDOOR AMUSEMENT, UH, FUNERAL HOME ORCHARD. ALL THAT IS ONE LINE AS WELL. UM, EITHER WAY I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TOOL AND EQUIPMENT RENTAL AND PORTABLE STORAGE STRUCTURE OR TEMPORARY BUILDING TO THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS. NO PROBLEM. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THESE GENTLEMEN? I MIGHT AFTER THE PEOPLE GET UP AND SPEAK, BUT I DON'T AT THE MOMENT. I, I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION BECAUSE GOING BACK TO PNZ, THAT WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED MANNER, UM, AS IT RELATED TO MEETING WITH THE HOAS AND THEM REFUSING TO MEET. SO YOU HAVE FIRST, FIRST MEETING, FIRST ZOOM WENT OUT? YES. OKAY. WHICH H HOAS PARTICIPATED IN THAT? SO THAT WAS THE BUFFALO RIDGE WHO? HOA AS HE, UH, COUNCIL SMITH JUST POINTED OUT, WE SENT IT OUT TO GARDEN VALLEY. WHAT WE WERE TOLD WAS THERE WAS MEMBERS FROM BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS ON THAT CALL. SO THAT WAS SO WHO TOLD YOU THAT? PEOPLE ON THE CALL. OKAY. THERE WAS ABOUT 10 TO 15 PEOPLE ON THE CALL? YES. OKAY. SO YOU HAD THAT FIRST CALL YES. AND THEY EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS. CORRECT. AND YOU WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD? CORRECT. AND, UM, THEN WERE GOING, WANTED TO PRESENT THAT AGAIN. SO A MEMBER, I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT CAPACITY OF THE BUFFALO RIDGE, HOA REACHED OUT TO US, SAID, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT AT OUR MONTHLY, UM, BOARD MEETING AT BUFFALO RIDGE? AND WE SAID, ABSOLUTELY. HE CALLED US BACK WITHIN 30 MINUTES AND SAID THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO COME, OR THE, THAT IS, WE'RE DENYING THAT REQUEST. OKAY. UM, AND NOTHING ELSE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE SOME, SOME ON THAT INITIAL CALL FROM GARDEN VALLEY, YOU NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM ANYBODY? SO WE, NO, WE DID NOT FROM THE MANAGEMENT GROUP, BUT ALSO WE, AT THAT POINT WE HAD HAD, WE'D RECEIVED ALL THE LETTERS AND CONTINUED TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AND MITIGATE ALL THE ISSUES THERE. AND SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NOT AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. Y'ALL CAN HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY SECRETARY, AND JUST TO REMINDER, ANY SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE DONE AT THE PODIUM. NO OUTBURST, NO SN COMMENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IF, IF WE HAVE THAT, YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO LEAVE AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO UP HERE. I APPRECIATE IT. SO IF I MAY, YES, SIR. UM, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, FOR YOUR SERVICE. THIS IS NOT AN EASY JOB THAT YOU HAVE. UM, I, UM, MY NAME IS ANDY HAMMOND. I AM, I RESIDE AT 2 51 LARRY AT TRAIL. AND SO I LIVE AND WORK IN WAXAHATCHEE, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR US ALUMINUM. UH, THE PACKAGE YOU'RE RECEIVING CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING CONTENT, AND I, I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY'S ALREADY SEEN THIS. UH, IT'S AN ISSUE SUMMARY BENZENE AND HEALTH EFFECTS SPEC SPECIFIC USE CRITERIA WHERE WE BELIEVE THREE OUT OF FIVE CANNOT BE MET. UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT, UH, REALLY AN ISSUE ANY LONGER. A LETTER FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE SERVICES CONSULTANT RICHARD KLEIN, AND THEN COPIES OF TWO SURVEYS AS WELL AS, AND THIS IS ALL CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD, YOU'VE ALL [00:55:01] RECEIVED IT . SO MY ORIGINAL PLAN TONIGHT WAS TO HAVE MYSELF AND OTHER VOLUNTEERS, UH, TESTIFY BY READING THE FIRST THREE DOCUMENTS. BUT AFTER PARTICIPATING IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND AFTER TWO, UH, DELAYS TO DILUTE OPPOSITION, OUR CONCERNS APPEAR TO HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. SO I'LL LET THESE FOLKS DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO READ THEIR TESTIMONIES. UM, IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME AT THE NOVEMBER 11TH PZ MEETING THAT MEMBERS FORCED THE CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE SUP SINCE NO OTHER MEMBER WANTED TO OWN THAT. UM, I STAND HERE TONIGHT WITH A LOT OF DOUBT THAT OUR CONCERNS WILL BE LISTENED TO. AND I'M, I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT TRYING TO JUDGE YOU PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW YOU. MR. SOUDER WAS, UH, KIND ENOUGH TO REACH OUT TO US, UH, IN SOME EMAIL EXCHANGES, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. UM, I HAVE UNDERSTOOD FROM THIRD HAND INFORMATION THAT SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MINDS COMMUNICATED AS MUCH, AND THAT OUR VOLUNTEER MONEY SPENT TO COMMISSION REPORTS AND DATA TIME TAKEN AWAY FROM FAMILY BECAUSE WE REALLY HAD A GROUND ROOTS EFFORT ON THIS TO, TO OPPOSE IT. UM, IN THE END WILL HAVE BEEN TIME AND MONEY WASTED. UM, OTHERS AND I HAD ASKED FOR FOLLOW UP TO OUR EARLIEST COMMUNICATIONS GOING BACK TO SEPTEMBER. MY NAME HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE REPORTS AND COMMUNICATION ALONG WITH MY CONTACT INFO INFORMATION, AND NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT TO ME YET. THE REPORT HAS BEEN WIDELY DISTRIBUTED EVEN TO THE DEVELOPER AT THE PZ MEETINGS. THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF WAXAHATCHEE WE'RE ALLOWED TO PUSH ASIDE OUR CONCERNS AS NON-ISSUES. NUMBER ONE, STATING THAT THE HEALTH EFFECTS ARE NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD WHEN IN FACT THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF GAS STATION EMISSIONS ARE UNDERSTOOD THAT GASOLINE IS, IS FULL OF BENZENE, BENZENE CAUSES CANCER AND THERE ARE NO SAFE LEVELS OF BENZENE. NUMBER TWO, IT ISN'T ABOUT THE TANKS LEACHING FUEL INTO THE GROUND. IT'S ABOUT THE BENZENE EMISSIONS FROM THE UNDERGROUND TANK VENTILATION. NUMBER THREE, THAT THE 1000 FOOT SAFETY ZONE ONLY APPLIES TO STATIONS AT 3.6 MILLION GALLONS, YET AN ADJACENT GRAPH. AND THE SAME RESEARCH SHOWS HARMFUL EMISSIONS AT 1 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR OF THROUGHPUT. NUMBER FOUR, THAT THE SCHOOL WAS OUTSIDE OF THE 1000 FOOT CAUTION ZONE. I MEASURED, UH, A NIGHT AFTER THE PZ WITH A NIKON RANGE FINDER USED TO TUNE MY AR 10 AT 1000 YARDS. THE ACTUAL DISTANCE TO A BUILDING IS 348 YARDS OR 1044 FEET. SO THEIR ARGUMENT FAILS TO RECOGNIZE THE RUNNING TRACKS AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR AT THE SCHOOL. NUMBER FIVE, THAT THE PEDESTRIAN COUNT YIELDED LESS THAN 10 PEDESTRIANS THAT THEY'VE SINCE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT AGAIN. YET, IF YOU WERE LOCAL, YOU WOULD KNOW THESE, YOU WOULD KNOW AND SEE KIDS WALKING HOME FROM SCHOOL AND THE HONEST COUNT WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER ON OCT. UH, NOVEMBER 18TH, I LEFT MY OFFICE EARLY TO DO MY OWN PERSONAL COUNT OF KIDS WALKING HOME FROM SCHOOL. IN 10 MINUTES BETWEEN 3 0 5 AND THREE 15, I COUNTED AT LEAST 50 AND HAVE PICTURES FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO SEE. UM, NUMBER SIX, THAT THE BUFFALO RIDGE AND HOA OR GARDEN VALLEY HOAS DECLINED TO MEET WITH THEM. YET WE WERE NEVER CONTACTED, NOT THE WAY IT'S BEING DESCRIBED. THE PRESIDENT OF THE BUFFALO RIDGE, HOA IS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, AND HE CAN ATTEST TO THIS. UH, MY COMMENTS DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO EXPLORE OTHER ISSUES LIKE PROPERTY DEVALUATION. BUT YOU WERE ALREADY PROVIDED A ZILLOW.COM ARTICLE ABOUT THE 10 INDUSTRIES THAT DIMINISH PROPERTY VALUES THE MOST WITH A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE. AT NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST, IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS SUP, PLEASE AT LEAST REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER ONE, THAT THE DEVELOPER IMPLEMENT THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF TANK VENTILATION EMISSION CONTROLS, WHICH I'M NO EXPERT OF, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S CALLED A SIX B PHASE ONE AND TWO WITH VENTILATION VALVES. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EVEN MEANS. NUMBER TWO, THAT ALL OF THE MATURE TREES, SINCE ALL OF THE MATURE TREES WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE, REQUIRE THAT THE GREEN OR BUFFERING SPACE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY BE OF MATURE PLANTINGS AS SHOWN ON THE RENDERING INSTEAD OF TWO FOOT CHARLIE BROWN TREES THAT WILL TAKE DEC UH, DECADES TO TRULY BE GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. NEXT. THANK YOU COUNCIL PEOPLE. MY NAME IS HOMER THOMPSON. I LIVE 2 5 4 BEAR TRAIL, WHICH IS IN THE BUFFALO RIDGE COMMUNITY. THE AREA THAT WAS CONSIDERED IS ONLY FIVE PEDESTRIANS WALKING THAT AREA. I WALK EVERY DAY AT LEAST FIVE TIMES. SO AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT'S COUNTED. SO I KNOW BY WATCHING THE CHILDREN, EXCUSE ME, IN ROUTE TO SCHOOL AND LEAVING SCHOOL, THERE'S MORE THAN THAT FIVE NUMBER IN THAT PACIFIC TIME. NOW, THE CHEMICALS, I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO A LOT OF CHEMICALS, SO I DON'T NEED THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. [01:00:01] FOOT WORTH IS YOUR RESIDENCE, SIR. TALK, TALK TO US. EXCUSE ME. OKAY. NOT TO ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. IT'S OKAY. SO I, I WILL END MY CONVERSATION THERE BY SAYING WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE IT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, GOOD EVENING MATTER, MADAM MAYOR AND HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DEBORAH BAROFSKY. I LIVE AT 1 1 7 EAGLE FEATHER DRIVE AT BUFFALO RIDGE. I'VE BEEN PRAYING A LOT ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT MY NEIGHBORS, OUR CHILDREN, AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND I PRAY THAT YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TONIGHT. I'M A GRANDMOTHER, A GREAT GRANDMOTHER. ISN'T IT? OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR ENVIRONMENT IS SO PRECIOUS. IT SEEMS TO BE EBBING AWAY FROM US BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WE FACE EVERY DAY. BUT MOST IMPORTANT, OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE IS OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FUTURE GENERATION. SO I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND I LIVE RIGHT BY ROBBIE HOWARD'S SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY PICK THEIR CHILDREN UP IT THE AFTERNOON. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RAUL MACHUKA. I LIVE IN 1 0 7 VALLEY RANCH COURT. MY HOME IS THE APEX OF THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT FACES DIRECTLY TO THE SEVEN 11, WHICH MEANS I CAN SEE THE SEVEN 11 DIRECTLY FROM MY BACKYARD AND FROM THE SECOND STORY OF MY HOUSE. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN. UM, THEY'VE BOTH ATTENDED, UH, HOWARD JUNIOR HIGH. AND I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC, NOT ONLY JUST THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. I LEFT THE PNZ MEETING LAST MONTH FAIRLY DISAPPOINTED, NOT ONLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SUPPORT, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE BLATANT DISREGARD FOR TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO THE ANALYSIS ON THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT UM, THEY HAVE PROPOSED OR SHOWN YOU. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE ONE DAY OUT OF YOUR WEEK AND DRIVE BY IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT IT IS NOT TRUE. I WAS ALSO DISAPPOINTED ON THE COMPLETE DISMISSAL OF OUR POINTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE BENZENE ISSUES. AND I AM NO EXPERT MYSELF, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO BE MITIGATED, AND YET THEY WERE DISMISSED AND FELL ON DEAF EARS. ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS THAT THERE ARE ALREADY GAS STATIONS THAT ARE CLOSE TO SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE, UH, TRAVIS SMITH EARLIER SAID, TODAY, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S BEEN DOING IT'S BEEN DONE. RIGHT? MAYBE THIS IS A TIME WHERE YOU GUYS CAN MAKE THIS RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE STEERING AWAY BUSINESS, BUT PERHAPS YOU'RE SETTING THE STANDARD HIGHER FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE IN PUTTING THE PEOPLE AND THE CHILDREN FIRST BEFORE PROFIT. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE HERE LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS OF YOUR CITY, BUT NOT JUST LISTENING, BUT ALSO ADVOCATING FOR WHAT WE WANT. AND I THINK THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL HERE AND IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WORK. IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, TIME FROM OUR SCHEDULES AND OUR FAMILIES TO COME HERE. NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT, BUT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE REASON WE DON'T WANT IT IS IMPORTANT. SO HAVE A GREAT EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT GOOD COUNSEL. MY NAME'S RACHEL PARK. I LIVE AT ONE 16 CAMPFIRE DRIVE. UM, WE'RE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPOSED GAS STATION. UM, I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS WAS OUR FIRST HOME WE BOUGHT. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR HOME. WE DON'T WANT OUR PROPERTY VALUE TO GO DOWN. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT THEY, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR-WAY STOP THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AT GARDEN VALLEY AND BROADHEAD. BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE SCHOOL TIME? LIKE GOING TO SCHOOL, COMING, LEAVING SCHOOL? UM, THE, THE KIDS WALKING ACROSS THE STREET, [01:05:01] YOU HAVE TRAVELERS THAT ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GO TO THE SEVEN 11, THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SIGNS. THERE'S NO BLINKING SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS. THEY COULD SPEED RIGHT THROUGH THAT SCHOOL ZONE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA WHATSOEVER. THERE'S KIDS THAT WALK ACROSS THE STREET. WE'VE BEEN STOPPED AT THAT, AT THAT SCHOOL CROSSING ZONE FOR 20 MINUTES AT A TIME WITH KIDS COMING THROUGH. AND THEN TOWARDS THE END OF, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DAY, THE KIDS ARE LEAVING. THERE'S NOT AS MANY KIDS. THERE'S STILL A CROSSING GUARD, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP PEOPLE. I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BLOW THROUGH THAT CROSSING AREA MULTIPLE TIMES. SO IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE UNFAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, IT JUST MAKES IT EVEN MORE DANGEROUS. UM, LIKE THEY'VE SAID, THERE'S WAY MORE THAN 15 KIDS WALKING THAT, I MEAN, LIVING RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF BROADHEAD AND GARDEN VALLEY, I SEE KIDS WALKING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NOT ONLY THAT SCHOOL BUS STOPS ARE RIGHT THERE, PEOPLE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. AND THEN THERE'S A GAS STATION BEING BUILT LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS, RIGHT ACROSS THE BROADHEAD BRIDGE. GO UP ONE MORE EXIT. THERE'S A GAS STATION ON THERE. A GAS STATION ON THE LEFT. I THINK THAT ALL, THE ONLY THING THAT THIS GAS STATION WOULD SERVE IS OUR COMMUNITY AND NONE OF US WANT IT THERE. SO I JUST, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT IN THE GAS STATION BEING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CALL HOME. IT'S GONNA INCREASE LOITERING, IT'S GONNA INCREASE POLLUTION 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA THROW THEIR TRASH ON THE GROUND. GAS STATIONS INVITE CRIME NO MATTER WHAT. I MEAN, IT'S A GAS STATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A DARK AREA. THERE'S HOUSES THERE, THERE'S HOMES EVERYWHERE. PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME JUST WATER AND INVITE CRIME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE HAVE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT WOULD COME RIGHT THROUGH OUR WINDOW. I MEAN, THEY SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T SEE, WE SEE THE LIGHTS FROM THE STADIUM, FROM OUR, OUR WINDOW. SO I KNOW FOR SURE LOOKING OUT OF OUR KITCHEN WINDOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE THE LIGHTS FROM THE GAS STATION. THERE'S NO NEED FOR INCREASED TRAFFIC. THERE'S NO NEED FOR A GAS STATION THERE WHEN THERE'S THREE WITHIN A TWO MILE RANGE. THANK Y'ALL. FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT. AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS DOESN'T SIT ON DEAF EARS 'CAUSE WE DO NOT WANT THIS. THANK YOU. NEXT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA FORNEY. I LIVE AT 1 21 EAGLE FEATHER DRIVE. I AM A RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHER OF 38 YEARS PLUS. THE LAST SEVEN YEARS I'VE WORKED FOR WAXAHATCHEE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN A SUBSTITUTE, UH, POSITION AND ALSO IN N-S-I-S-D AS A TUTOR POSITION. SO I KNOW KIDS AND I KNOW JUNIOR HIGH KIDS 'CAUSE THAT'S MY LEVEL. SO HOWARD AND FINLEY ARE MY TWO FAVORITE PLACES TO GO. AND WAXAHATCHEE WHEN I DO SUBSTITUTE. ABOUT A MONTH AGO I WAS TIMING MY RIDE BACK HOME FROM DOWNTOWN WRONG. I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BELL RINGS AT 3 0 5 FOR JUNIOR HIGH. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR. AND THE KIDS START SCHOOL AT SEVEN 30. SO WHENEVER THAT PHOTO WAS TAKEN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN I KNOW THE DATES THAT THEY GAVE, THEY WERE NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO WHEN I HEADED BACK TO MY HOUSE ON EAGLE FEATHER, WHICH I WOULD GO RIGHT PAST, UH, BROAD ON BROADHEAD PAST, UH, HOWARD SCHOOL, THERE WAS A SEA OF BACKPACKS HEADED NORTH ON BROADHEAD ROAD. AND I DON'T MEAN 5, 8, 10, I MEAN PROBABLY BETWEEN 80 AND A HUNDRED KIDS. I KNOW THAT AREA. I KNOW THOSE KIDS 'CAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN AT THAT SCHOOL WHEN IT'S RELEASED. I'VE BEEN AT FINDLAY AND THAT SCHOOL WHEN IT'S RELEASED AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF KIDS AND MOST A LOT OF 'EM GET PICKED UP BY CAR, BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE AT A BUS. BUT IF YOU'RE TOO CLOSE, YOU WALK HOME. THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE ARE THE SIDEWALKS. THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE PROPOSED BEHIND THE SEVEN 11. THERE IS NO CHILD EXCEPT MAYBE ONE OF YOURS THAT WOULD WALK ON THAT SIDEWALK BEHIND THAT SEVEN 11. THE SHORTEST DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO POINTS IS A STRAIGHT LINE. ARE THEY GONNA GO AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE THAT THEY'VE BEEN STUDYING IN CLASS? NO WAY. THEY'RE GONNA JUST WALK PAST THAT. SEVEN 11, THE QUICKEST, EASIEST WAY. THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A CORNER AND GO AT THE BACK. THE OTHER POINT ABOUT THE HAVING THE SIDEWALK AT THE BACK AND THINKING CHILDREN ARE GONNA WALK THERE. YOUNG PEOPLE, I SHOULDN'T SAY CHILDREN 'CAUSE THEY'RE 11, 12, 13, 14. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR SOMETHING NOT SO GOOD TO HAPPEN. IF THEY DO WALK BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, KIDS, AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, WE WERE ALL THERE ONCE. SOME OF US WERE RULE FOLLOWERS AND SOME OF US WEREN'T. YOU MAKE BAD DECISIONS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT SOME PARENTS SAYING, SO AND SO WENT THAT WAY BEHIND SEVEN 11 AND SUCH AND SUCH HAPPENED. HOPE IT DOESN'T, HOPE IT DOESN'T GO IN. SO THE SIDEWALK THING THAT'S GONNA GO AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE IT. UM, THE LAST THING I WANNA MENTION IS, UH, TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS, W HATCHEE, ANY CITIES THAT ARE SO ADMIRED NOW, I WOULD TAKE OFFENSE [01:10:01] IF A BUSINESS SAID, COME AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A FREE DONUT AND COFFEE TO PREVENT LOITERING. THAT TO ME IS NOT REASONABLE. AND AS A TAXPAYER, THOSE GUYS AND GIRLS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDING SECURITY TO SEVEN 11. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR KIDS. IT'S RIGHT FOR ALL OF US. THANKS NICK. NEXT. HI, I'M ROBIN CHAVARRIA. I LIVE AT 2 2 5 LATRELL. THIS IS OLIVIA AND GABE, MY KIDS THAT LIVE WITH ME AT THE SAME HOME. WE ARE IN THE BUFFER ZONE. THIS IS LITERALLY IN OUR BACKYARDS. I MEAN, LOOK OUT YOUR YARD AND YOU SEE STORE. AND I KNOW PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN A REALTOR FOR OVER 18 YEARS. PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE AFFECTED. WHO'S GONNA COMPENSATE ME FOR THAT? THEY'RE NOT. UM, MY KIDS ARE GONNA HAVE NO PRIVACY ON THEIR BACKYARD. JUMPING ON THE TRAMPOLINE. THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE PUMPING GAS, STARING AT MY CHILDREN FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE COMING IN JUST TO GET GAS WHEN THERE'S GAS STATIONS THAT CAN BE PUT ON THE CORNER OF 2 87. WE ARE NOT A LANDLOCKED PLACE LIKE LEWISVILLE. WE ARE A VERY OPEN CITY WITH OPEN SPACES THAT ARE OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO USE A SUP IN. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A PREVIOUS LISTING BY THE OTHER SEVEN 11 OVER OFF OF KIRKEY ON ALEXANDER. ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS ABOUT EVERYONE THAT PREVIEWED THAT PROPERTY WAS THE ALLEYWAY THAT BACKED UP TO THE STORES. NOBODY WANTED TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THAT BRINGS TO THEIR BACKYARD. UM, AS FAR AS THAT PED STUDY, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY. I'M, THAT'S MY BACKYARD. LITERALLY THOSE KIDS WALKING DOWN THE STREET, IT'S WAY MORE THAN A FEW TEEN PEOPLE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT. THERE'S FAMILIES OF FIVE OR SIX THAT RIDE THEIR BICYCLES BEHIND MY HOUSE ALMOST EVERY NIGHT. I SEE THE SAME FAMILIES. UM, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, I HAVE PERSONALLY ATTENDED MULTIPLE WRECKS IN MY FOUR YEARS OF LIVING THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. SOME PRETTY BAD PEOPLE MESSED UP. UM, BUT THERE WAS ONE 4TH OF JULY THAT WAS PRETTY SEVERE. I WENT AND HELPED THOSE FAMILIES. A A FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN WASN'T GONNA STOP IT. THERE WAS ALREADY TRAFFIC THERE. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. NO WRECK WAS EVERYBODY WAS ALREADY STOPPED TRYING TO LEAVE THE SPORTSPLEX FROM THE FIREWORK SHOW. UM, THERE'S OVER 407 ELEVENS CURRENTLY CLOSING. THIS IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST SEVEN 11. IT'S NOT GONNA BE OWNED BY SEVEN 11. THEY'RE GOING TO LEASE IT OUT TO SOMEBODY. UM, AND IF THAT LEASE FOR SOME REASON FAILS OR ENDS, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER SIX MONTH PRO. IF IT'S SIX MONTHS OF NOT HAVING IT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER SUP PROCESS. IT'D BE A ROTTING BUILDING BY THEN. UM, THERE'S TWO SEVEN ELEVENS WITHIN TWO MILES PLUS ADDITIONAL NEW GAS STATIONS GOING UP NOW. UM, HUGE 217 PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY OPPOSED. THIS ACCORDING TO Y'ALL'S NUMBERS, THE NOISE. OKAY, I LIKE WAXAHATCHEE. I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE CLOSER TO MY FAMILY. MY DAD IS A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER. HE SERVED ELLIS COUNTY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. I USED TO GO ON RIDE-ALONGS WITH HIM. WE LITERALLY HAD THE WORST CRIME AT GAS STATIONS, WHETHER IT WAS ON A VILLA ROAD WHEN HE WAS WORKING IN NO VILLA IN RED OAK WHEN HE WORKED FOR, UM, FOR RED OAK OR IN PALMER WHEN HE WORKED FOR PALMER. HE ALSO WORKED FOR THE ELLIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR A TIME. HE'S RETIRED. HE STILL WORKS IN SECURITY. UM, AND HE, HE COULD TELL ANYBODY. AND AND I'VE EXPERIENCED IT WITH HIM. ALL THOSE WAS RIDE ALONGS. THE CRIME. I'VE, I WAS 13, I WITNESS TO A SHOOTING AT THE GAS STATION ON A VILLA ROAD THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS THE ONLY GAS STATION THERE. IT STILL REALLY IS, BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR BACKYARD. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THEIR SAYING, THEY OFFERED TO MEET WITH THE HOAS. THE REASON WHY HE COULD NOT GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER IS BECAUSE HE WAS BLATANTLY BEING DECEITFUL. THERE WAS THE P AND Z MEETING THAT WE HAD. HE LITERALLY SAID THE REASON WHY THERE WASN'T ONE WAS BECAUSE WE DECLINED. AND THAT HE COULDN'T EVEN REPEAT THAT THIS TIME. HE DID NOT. WE DID NOT DECLINE. WE, WE LITERALLY HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF OUR HOA HERE . WE DID NOT DECLINE. WE WANTED THESE, THESE TALKS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE WHY THEY WANTED TO PICK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SEVEN 11 POWER WASHES ARE SIDEWALKS THAT'S GONNA GO INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM. THAT'S, THAT'S MORE IN OUR HOME, IN OUR SOIL, IN OUR BACKYARD CHEMICAL THAT WE DO NOT NEED. GAS TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN. THEY'RE GONNA DAMAGE OUR ROADS THAT WE JUST FINALLY GOT SMOOTH FROM ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. AND I KNOW THERE'S PLANS TO, TO CHANGE THE FARLEY SIDE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED THAT. THE BRICKS WERE GONE. THOSE WERE GIVING US TROUBLE. NOW WE GOT IT FIXED. NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE HEAVY GAS TRUCKS. UM, YOU KNOW, I I, MY CHILDREN ARE MY WORLD AND I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR BACKYARD THAT WE PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE A SPACE WHERE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE. WHERE THERE'S NOT PEOPLE PEELING OFF [01:15:01] AT 2:00 AM GETTING GAS AT THE 24 7 STORE. GIVE US SOMETHING THAT CLOSES AT 9:00 PM 10:00 PM BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S 24 7. GIVE US, GIVE US PEACE IN OUR HOME AND HEALTH AND, AND SAFETY AND, AND JUST LET US ENJOY OUR HOME AND NOT LOSE OUR PROPERTY VALUE. BECAUSE FOR SOME OF US, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE AS FAR AS OUR WEALTH GOES. AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE A BIG CHUNK OF THAT FROM SOME GUYS FROM NOT EVEN OUR OWN AREA THAT ARE COMING IN AND WANTING TO THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. NEXT. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I WAS AT THE PNZ MEETING LAST MONTH AND, UM, OH, I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS TRACY KO AND I'M AT 1 0 4 PIPER. I WAS AT THE PNZ MEETING LAST MONTH AND EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WITH, UH, THE, UH, INTERIM DECISION THAT WAS MADE. UH, THIS PROPOSAL FOR CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION. IT SHOWS A TOTAL LACK OF REGARD FOR THE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENTS. UM, GARDEN VALLEY AND BUFFALO RIDGE. THE INCREASE IN THE ROAD NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, UH, LOITERING BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN AT CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS STATIONS. UM, IT, IT'S JUST REALLY RIDICULOUS THAT THE PROPOSAL IS, IS FOR THE MIDDLE. LITERALLY THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WITH CHILDREN. UH, WE HAVE, UM, PARENTS THAT ARE WALKING THEIR DOGS THAT ARE WALKING, UH, STROLLERS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DANGEROUS. UH, PUTTING TREES UP TO MAKE IT LOOK PRETTY, THAT'S BLOCKING THE LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE STREET. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. UM, THE HEALTH EFFECTS, UH, THE HEALTH EFFECTS, UH, THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT. THE BENZENE, THE ING, THE ETHYL BENZENE, THE XYLENE. UH, SEVEN 11, UH, AT ANY SEVEN 11, THEY WASH THE DRIVE DOWN AROUND THE, UH, GAS PUMPS WITH A WATER HOSE WITH WATER. THEY DON'T USE ABSORBENTS TO, UH, TO TAKE UP, UM, THOSE CHEMICALS. THEY JUST WASH IT OFF INTO OUR WATERWAYS HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE. HOW SAFE IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES? UM, AGAIN, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, THE PROXIMITY TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. OKAY, SO IT'S A THOUSAND FEET. OUR KIDS WALK THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY. UM, I SAID IT IN THE MEETING BEFORE IN THE P AND Z MEETING. THE CAMERAS HAVE NOT TOLD THE TRUTH. I DROVE THROUGH THERE, UH, RIGHT AT A LITTLE BIT AFTER THREE O'CLOCK TODAY. THE CAMERAS THAT, UM, THEY USE, THEY'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. THE, THE, THE FOOT TRAFFIC, BICYCLE TRAFFIC. THERE ARE KIDS ON SKATEBOARDS, SKI KIDS ON SCOOTERS. WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THE PARENTS OF THOSE CHILDREN THAT WALK THE STROLLERS, THAT WALK THE KIDS TO SCHOOL, THAT WALK WITH THE KIDS BESIDE THEIR BIKES. WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT. UM, THE NOISE POLLUTION, UH, AGAIN, THE MOTHER THAT JUST SPOKE YEAH. BURNING OFF AT ONE, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND I DARE ANYONE TO SAY THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. IT'S SEVEN 11. IT'S NOT REGULATED FOR NOISE. IT'S NOT REGULATED FOR LIGHT. THE LIGHT GOING INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS OR EVEN IN SOME INSTANCES TO THEIR FRONT YARDS. PICTURES WERE SHOWN, UH, IN THE PNC MEETING WHERE THE LIGHT, UH, JUST FROM, UM, THE HAMILTON IS ALREADY, UH, A LIGHT POLLUTION AND THEN TO ADD A SEVEN 11 AND THEY HAVE LIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A, A POLE SIGNED. IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE EXCESS LIGHTING IN THAT AREA. AND WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT BEHIND THE SEVEN 11, HOW SAFE IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLERS, MALE AND FEMALE TO WALK BEHIND THE SEVEN 11 WITH THE AMOUNT OF KIDNAPPING AND TRAFFICKING AND THAT SORT OF THING GOING ON IN OUR WORLD TODAY? THIS IS, THIS IS, IT MAKES ME EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I HAVE KIDS THAT ARE IN, UH, HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. UM, JUST THE AESTHETIC, UH, CONCERNS A CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE [01:20:01] FOR SALE PROPERTIES UP AND DOWN 2 87, TAKE A SHOT AT ONE OF THOSE, BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVE THERE. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE. THE PROPERTY DEVALUATION IS A REAL THING. A SEVEN 11 AND GAS STATION WILL COMPLETELY DEPLETE OUR PROPERTIES. AND THE AREA, THE, ALL THE HOUSES AROUND THERE ARE FAIRLY NEW. SO NOW WE'VE BOUGHT INTO PROPERTIES IN THOSE AREAS FOR ONLY FOR IT TO BE JUST WIPED OUT FOR PUTTING A CONVENIENCE STORE AND A GAS STATION THERE. HOW IS THAT FAIR TO THE HOMEOWNERS OF WAXAHATCHEE? WE MOVED OUT HERE FOR THE QUIET AM I AT I FIVE MINUTES? YOU ARE. I APOLOGIZE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT. I HOPE WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TONIGHT. THANK YOU. MAD MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO TOUCH ON. UM, JUST, JUST TO KIND OF, SO WE, WE DO APPRECIATE ALL OF ALL OF YOU FOR SPEAKING. WE'RE HEARING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND WE GET IT. THEY'RE NOT, NOT BEING HEARD. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS. I BELIEVE THAT SIDEWALK TO THE REAR WAS ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF ONE OF THE HOAS. IS THAT HOW THAT HAPPENED? IT, IT WAS DISCUSSED AS A ALTERNATIVE MEASURE TO AVOID CROSSING THE ACCESS POINTS. RIGHT, BUT THAT WAS ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF IBEL. YES. AMONG UP TO THE AND STAFF. SORRY. YES. AND STAFF. WE, WE JUST WALKED, WORKED THROUGH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT KIDS WALKING HOME AFTER SCHOOL, SO, AND CROSSING THE ACCESS POINTS TO ENTER THE SITE. RIGHT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMENTS ON THE CALL, SORRY, IT, IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER. SO THE, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ON THE CALL WAS THAT KIDS WON'T STOP AND LOOK FOR CARS COMING OUT. SO WE, WE DECIDED TO DO THE SIDEWALK AROUND IT SO YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE TO CROSS THE ACCESS POINT AS AN ALTERNATIVE PATH. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S THAT'S THE ACCESS POINT THAT'S ALONG BOTH COMMERCIAL? YES. BROADHEAD BROADHEAD, YES. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, SO THE SIDEWALK WAS PUT IN TO ATTEMPT TO CURB THAT. YES. THERE STILL WOULD BE A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE FRONT THOUGH, RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE, I'M THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE YES AS WELL. AND THAT'S ALSO PER SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. ALL STREET SI GUESS I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION THEN AS TO IF THERE ARE STU OUTS HERE, WHY ARE WE REQUIRING AN ACCESS POINT ON BROADHEAD? COULD WE CUT THAT ? ARE YOU YEAH, THEY'VE GOT, SO THOSE ARE JUST SHOWN FOR VISUAL PURCHASE PURPOSES. WE, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WAY YOU HAVE PROCESS ACCESS TO OTHER, OTHER PROPERTIES. DIDN'T WE APPROVE THE MCDONALD'S ON BUTCHER TO ONLY HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT BECAUSE OF PLANNED, NOT PLANNED, BUT POTENTIAL FUTURE. YEAH. THEY, THEY SHARE, THEY SHARE AN ACCESS POINT ONTO LIKE, LIKE ROADWAYS TO WHERE YOU MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF DRIVES ONTO THEIR AFFAIRS AND, AND ROADWAYS. SO YEAH, I MEAN THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'D SHARE THOSE TWO CURB CUTS WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR ACCESS THERE, AND I DON'T HAVE, MAYBE ONE OF THESE OTHER PICTURES HAS BROADHEAD IN THE DRAWING. THE, YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT OFF OF BROADHEAD DIRECTLY INTO THE SEVEN 11. YOU CANNOT, YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND SO, AND COME DOWN BROADHEAD AND TURN RIGHT TO GET IN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SAME THING WITH GARDEN VALLEY. YOU HAVE TO TURN RIGHT TO GET INTO THE PARKING LOT. YOU CAN TAKE A LEFT ON GARDEN VALLEY INTO THE SITE. THAT'S THE ONLY FULL ACCESS POINT WE'RE PROPOSING. 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A MEDIAN. CORRECT. OKAY. THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS ON BROADHEAD, WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE WE'VE BEEN REALLY DISCUSSING ON THE, THE BIG AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SO FAR. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING GARDEN VALLEY DOESN'T HAVE TRAFFIC. MM-HMM. . BUT THERE'S NO CROSS WHERE SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE THERE TRYING TO STEPPING ON IT, TRYING TO GET INTO THE SEVEN 11 TO AVOID TRAFFIC COMING ACROSS. NO, THERE'S NOT. IS THAT WILL BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY SO IT'S RIGHT. COUNCILMAN WRIGHT? I TO THAT POINT, AND YOU'VE BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES AND NOW THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP THIS TIME NOW, IT'S, UM, POPPED BACK IN MY HEAD. BUT WITH THOSE MEDIANS, AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE ON 77 WITH THE MEDIANS AND ALL OF THE ILLEGAL U-TURNS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE LIKE THE SIGNS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. UM, SO IS THAT GONNA BE AN ISSUE HERE? UM, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO, AT THE FOUR WAY, IF THEY PUT A FOUR WAY STOP ANYWHERE, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S NO, I MEAN, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CUTS THERE. SO SOMEBODY COULD JUST TO THAT POINT THAT THAT'S WHY GARDEN VALLEY, THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED TO DO A U-TURN BECAUSE YOU TAKE A LEFT, GET INTO GARDEN [01:25:01] VALLEY, GO BACK OUT AND GO WHICHEVER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT IN THEORY. BUT YOU COULD DO THAT ON 77 ALSO. AND THEY DON'T DO IT. PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO WHATEVER THE HECK THEY WANNA DO AND IF THEY CAN PULL THE U-TURN, THEY'RE GONNA PULL THE U-TURN. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THERE'S NOT A NEED. 'CAUSE THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE'S NOT A NEED, THERE'S NOT A NEED ON 77 EITHER, BUT THEY STILL DO IT. UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTOOD. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, I, I, I REALLY WANT TO HEAR, UH, REST OF THE PEOPLE, THE REST OF THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT. I, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE THING BEFORE WE, UH, START THAT AGAIN. I I I'M HEARING A RECURRING, UM, MESSAGE ABOUT, UH, DISAPPOINTMENT WITH, WITH P AND Z AND, AND THEIR DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAYBE A LOT OF, 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THE MISCONCEPTION, UM, ABOUT WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING ACTUALLY DOES. AND SO THEIR, THEIR JOB IS TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM AND AND TO DETERMINE DOES IT MEET THE CURRENT RULES AND REDS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR, THEY CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A ORDINANCE. THEY CAN'T, I MEAN A, A VARIANCE. THEY, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ON ITS MERITS AND DECIDE DOES THIS CHECK ALL THE BOXES? IF IT DOES, THEY, THEY VOTE AND SEND IT TO US. OKAY. SO PLEASE DON'T GET DISHEARTENED WITH WHAT HAPPENED AT P AND Z BECAUSE IT MAY JUST BE THAT, THAT YOU DON'T, YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THEIR ROLE IS IN THIS. THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL SCOPE. THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL SCOPE THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND IT'S, DOES IT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS? IF IT DOES, THEN THEY APPROVE IT AND SEND IT TO US. SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT. THERE'S A COUPLE MORE THINGS I HAVE FOR Y'ALL THAT I'VE HEARD REPEATED. AND THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF HELP MOVE IT ALONG. SOME, UM, BROUGHT UP THEY ONLY, THE ONLY REQUEST REALLY THAT THEY HAD, IT WAS, IT WAS JUST TWO. UM, SO ON THE TANK VENTILATION, I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED TO BE, UH, SIX B, PHASE ONE AND TWO. YES. DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO Y'ALL? 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME. I TRIED TO FIND IT ON GOOGLE. AND SO THOSE ARE MAINLY PUT IN PLACE AFTER A TANK LEAK HAS OCCURRED TO CATCH THE VAPORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY SITTING IN THE GROUND. THE MAIN REASON TCUQ DID IMPLEMENT THOSE FOR A WHILE, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT A SCIENTIST AND WE TALK TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT AND YES, WELL YES, WE CAN FILL THAT REQUEST. WE BASICALLY, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S AN ACTIVE LEAKING SITE FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF VAPOR THAT IS COMING FROM THE GROUND, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MI LIKE MITIGATION THERE. OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY THAT I DON'T TRUST TCEQ AS FAR AS I CAN THROW ANY OF THEM AGAINST THE WIND. UNDERSTOOD. UM, THAT'S HOW WE GOT INTO THIS WHOLE PREDICAMENT WITH MUDS. SO IF, IF, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN, HAVE ALL OF THOSE BEEN EXPLORED? UM, AND HAS THERE BEEN A COST ANALYSIS DONE ON THOSE SO WE CAN YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO IMPLEMENT THAT SYSTEM ON TOP OF CONTINUED MONITORING OR SORRY, MAINTENANCE AND OTHER OBLIGATIONS. BUT THAT SYSTEM YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, IS IT NECESSARY AND IT WAS REQUIRED AT ONE TIME. HAVE, HAVE YOU ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT IT IT IS, IT IT WOULD BE SAFER TO HAVE THAT? HONESTLY, WE, I'VE DONE QUITE A FEW GAS STATIONS IN VARIOUS STATES. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME BENZENE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN ANY OF THE SUP HEARINGS WE'VE DONE. UM, THERE ARE NO, THEY, THEIR REPORT HAS THE STUDIES. THERE'S NO, WE CANNOT FIND ANYTHING THAT SAID, HEY, THIS WILL TOTALLY MITIGATE THAT. IF THAT'S THE QUESTION. IT EVERY GAS TANK'S REQUIRED TO EVERY GAS TANK'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THE FUEL VENTS TO COM TO COMBAT EXPLOSIONS AND ANY RUPTURE OF THE TANK BECAUSE AS TEMPERATURES CHANGE, THE FUEL CHANGES AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO RELEASE THAT OR THEY COULD EXPLODE. SO THEY'RE ALL REQUIRED REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, FOR UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS OR ANY TANK IN GENERAL. ARE WE DOING ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT WITH THIS SEVEN 11 AS THE OTHER SEVEN ELEVENS HAVE DONE? AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY LEAKS THERE'S YOURE AWARE OF ON THE OTHER TWO SEVEN LEMONS THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY LEAKS. UM, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT? YEAH, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING LESS THAN WHAT'S BEEN DONE? NO. I MEAN ARE NO, THE ONLY THING ENHANCING THE MASONRY. YEAH, THE MASONRY HIGHER. OH, FROM THE FUEL PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE, EXACTLY THE SAME. I BELIEVE THEY DID CHANGE THE TYPE OF DOUBLE WALLED TANKS THEY'RE INSTALLING. THEY WENT [01:30:01] THICKER ON THE INITIAL WALL AND I THINK THAT WAS A REGULATION PASSED BY TCUQ IN 21 I THINK WE DID. OR 22. SO NO, THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, TOP LEVEL OF INSTALL. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY SEVEN ELEVENS THAT HAVE THIS SIX B CURRENTLY? N NO. UH, AND WE ASKED OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT ABOUT IT THERE AGAIN, IT'S MAINLY FOR SITES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED A LEAK TO MITIGATE ADDITIONAL VAPOR MITIGATION OR THEY'RE INSTALLED ON SITES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY LEAKING AND THEN REINSTALLING OTHER HOUSE STORAGE TANKS. OKAY. ON THE, ON THE TREE SIZE. AND I, I'VE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. UM, I CAN'T STAND WHEN SOMEBODY SELLS US ON THIS LANDSCAPE PLANNED AND THEN WE GET A DINKY TREE AND THEN THEY DIE IN SIX MONTHS AND THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH A DINKY TREE THAT'S DEAD. UM, WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR LANDSCAPE PLANETS IN OUR PACKET, UH, CURRENTLY YOUR OFFERING, OR CURRENTLY YOU HAVE THAT THERE WILL BE 23 CEDAR ELMS OF A FOUR INCH CALIBER, WHICH FROM WHAT I'VE FOUND, UH, IT MEANS THEY'LL BE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10 FEET IN HEIGHT. IS THAT DOES? YES. AND THAT'S ALL PER ORDINANCE? YES. OKAY. UM, THOSE CEDAR ELMS SHOULD BE 40 TO 60 FEET APART. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. SO DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE SITE, AND SO LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE SPACING BETWEEN ALL THE LINES AND, UH, LANDSCAPING NOT, UH, BEING PERMITTED IN THE, UH, DETENTION AREA, ARE YOU SAYING THEY'RE TOO CLOSE OR THEY'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH APART? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW FAR THAT WOULD BE. THE SAME THING TOO CLOSE OR NOT FAR ENOUGH APART? WE THE SAME. SAME. YES. I'M SEEING BOTH. OKAY. SO WE HAD TO PER THE, PER THE, UH, ORDINANCE, WE HAD TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF TREES. SO WE HAD TO GET THEM ON SITE. WELL, THE TREE YOU CHOSE IS GOING TO KILL OFF EVERY OTHER ONE. THEY'RE GONNA EAT EACH OTHER ALIVE, QUITE LITERALLY BEING THAT CLOSE TOGETHER. AND WE HAVE 23 OF THOSE AND THEN TWO LIVE OAK ALONG THE FRONTAGE. MM-HMM. . UM, ALSO OF THE FOUR INCH CALIBER, WAS THAT NOT CONSIDERED THAT THE TREES ARE JUST GONNA EAT THEMSELVES? WE, IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD THAT. YEAH. WE, WE HADN'T HEARD THAT. WE WORKED WITH STAFF. WE HAD PROB WE HAD FOUR REVISIONS ON THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN AND UM, THERE, THERE'S A TABLE WITH OPTIONS TO, FOR UNDERSTORY AND I FORGET THE OTHER, UM, WHAT THEY'RE CALLED FOR THE ORDINANCE. BUT, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT THERE AND THEN WE, WE WENT ABOVE ON THE SHRUBS, UM, AND ALL THOSE OTHER, UH, ORNAMENTAL STUFF. SO IT WAS CONSIDERED, I'M, I, TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD EAT EACH OTHER. I JUST, THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM, UM, FOR PER THE ORDINANCE. AND SO WE HAD TO MEET THAT JENNIFER IN REFERENCE TO WHAT, OR SEAN, ONE OF YOU, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ON OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, DO WE HAVE FOR THE CITY, DOES OUR HORTICULTURALIST HAVE ANY INPUT AT ALL AS TO WHAT, SINCE HE IS A HORTICULTURALIST? SO, SO USUALLY WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING WITH SITES LIKE THESE IS THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY. UM, IF THERE'S A CONCERN WITH, UM, HOW CLOSE THE TREES ARE, UM, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE'LL GO WITH MORE OF AN ACCENT TREE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS REFERRING TO VERSUS A STREET TREE. UH, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES AS WELL WHERE WE WILL ALLOW SOME CLUSTERING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. UH, THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT. IF IT ENDS UP BEING AN ISSUE WHERE WE NEED TO EVALUATE AN ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE PLAN, STAFF CAN DEFINITELY, UM, DO THAT AND WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IF THAT BECOMES A CONCERN. THANK YOU. THANKS GUYS. I, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, CAN WE, YEAH. UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT? IF SO, COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M EVAN MALTZ, 600 LEE WAXAHATCHEE. UM, I AM A TWO TERM FORMER MAYOR, A ONE TERM DEPUTY MAYOR, A COUNCIL MEMBER, [01:35:01] A NINE YEAR CHAIRMAN OF PLANNING BOARD, PART OF A STATE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND WROTE A MASTER PLAN FOR A CITY JUST ABOUT THE SIZE OF WAXAHATCHEE THAT'S BEEN RENOWNED NATIONALLY. WHAT I SEE HERE IS SPOT ZONING. WHAT I SEE HERE IS A COMMITTEE THAT, OR A COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND MAKE A A RIGHT DECISION FOR EVERY PERSON THAT'S IN HERE. THERE'S A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T COME TO THIS MEETING TONIGHT 'CAUSE THEY'RE OUT WITH THEIR CHILDREN. I GO UP AND DOWN THESE ROADS ON A DAILY BASIS. I AVOID THEM NOW DURING SCHOOL TIME, I HAVE ALSO BEEN STOPPED IN TRAFFIC FOR A HALF HOUR AND MISSED A MEETING THAT I WAS GOING TO. AND I MAKE MY LIVING DOING COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION. I'M USUALLY SITTING WITH THESE GENTLEMEN AT THESE MEETINGS AND I'M HERE TONIGHT. I CAME TO A MEETING, THE LAST MEETING THAT Y'ALL HAD THE FIRST TIME I COME TO ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS. AND I WAS VERY INTRIGUED BY WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND, UH, I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO LISTEN, BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU, IT'S YOUR CHARGE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY AND REPRESENT THEIR BEST INTEREST. AND, UH, PUTTING A GAS STATION IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL WITH ADULT HOUSING BEHIND IT THAT YOU'VE ALL JUST SEEN, BEING CONSTRUCTED IS ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG THING TO DO. I KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD DOES AND YES, YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT. THEY ARE, THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL SCOPE. THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THIS CITY HAS ADOPTED IN THE PAST AND WHAT YOU'VE ADOPTED NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. COUNCILMAN SMITH, YOU'VE SAID IT A NUMBER OF TIMES LAST MEETING. THIS MEETING, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE NEED TO KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES. AND I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE AND YOU START LOOKING AT WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING HOUSES AND WHERE YOU'RE GONNA FILL IN WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AFTER THE HOUSES ARE BUILT. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN TRICKED. UNDERSTOOD. I KNOW I GO CHECK WHAT'S BEHIND ME. I HAVE OPEN SPACE BEHIND ME. I GO, I CAME DOWN AND I CHECKED WHAT IT WAS. BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO DO THAT. THEY GO IN AND THEY LISTEN TO A, A BLOOMFIELD HOMES OR ALL OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE. THEY'RE BUILDING EVERYTHING AND, AND THEIR SALESPEOPLE TELL 'EM EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO HEAR TO SELL 'EM A HOME. UH, AND UH, IT IT'S JUST AN INJUSTICE THAT'S HAPPENING. AND I REALLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE PUT DEEP THOUGHT INTO THIS AND MAKE THAT HARD DECISION AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT FEEL THAT YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE ZONING AND PLANNING HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT AND SAID IT'S CONSISTENT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT GO ALONG WITH THAT AND CHANGE IT. THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING. I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE ALL IN, BEEN THERE, DONE IT. AND UH, IT'S NOT EASY. BUT THANK YOU. AND I JUST HOPE THAT THE RIGHT THING HAPPENS. COMING OUTTA THIS MEETING, SIR, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS IF I COULD SINCE, SINCE YOU GAVE US YOUR HISTORY AND YOUR BACKGROUND, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN, FIRST OF ALL, COULD I ASK YOU WHERE THAT WAS? STATE OF NEW JERSEY. OKAY. AND I'M, I DON'T CARE THAT IT'S IN NEW JERSEY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED HERE? TWO YEARS. OKAY. THE REASON I'M ASKING, THAT'S NOT 'CAUSE I CARE HOW LONG YOU LIVED HERE, BUT WE WENT THROUGH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN. MM-HMM. . AND WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, THEY CALL IT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HERE, BUT CREATING A, A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEY LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF WAXAHATCHEE AND WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS. AND, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING'S ON 77 AND EVERYTHING'S THERE. SO ALL THE TRAFFIC IS ALL GOING TO THOSE PLACES. SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH A MASTER PLAN WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONSULTANTS AND IT WAS OPEN WHEN WE HAD PUBLIC INPUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE PASTOR PLAN THAT WE PASSED ACTUALLY SAID, YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY DRIVING EVERYWHERE, ALL OVER TOWN TO GO HERE, HERE, HERE AND HERE. BUILD COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS TO WHERE IT HAS SMALL CONVENIENCES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO 77, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO HERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO THERE. AND YOU PUT 'EM ON THESE ARTERIES LIKE GARDEN VALLEY AND BROADHEAD THAT ARE FOUR LANE DIVIDED AND THEN A BIGGER PRI IT'S NOT A MAJOR BUT ARTERY THAT ARE OFF OF THE THING BUT NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT THE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ACCESS THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THOSE OTHER PLACES WHICH DRAWS AWAY FROM ALL THE OTHERS THAT ARE OVERCROWDED. THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT [01:40:01] UP IS I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT AS YOU'VE REFERENCED TRAVIS, WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THAT MASTER PLAN IS TRYING TO DIFFER FROM WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST. 'CAUSE WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST AS A CITY IS EVERYTHING WENT ON THOSE TWO STREETS. AND AS YOU KNOW, BEING A MAYOR AND BEING A AMERIPRO TIM, EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO TOWN, I GUARANTEE THESE GUYS, IF THERE WAS A SPOT THAT WAS RIGHT THERE ON THERE, WOULD'VE RATHER BUILT THERE IF THERE WASN'T ALREADY A NEW SEVEN 11 OVER THERE . BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU SEE THE POINT I'M COMING UP WITH AND WHERE I'M COMING FROM, I AGREE WITH. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT COMES TO THE, TO THE THING BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS ANYTHING IN ANY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE THE LAST ONE IN CLOSE THE GATE BEHIND ME WHEN I MOVE IN, RIGHT? YES SIR. BUT ROUTE 77 IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. COMPLETELY NOT PLANNED CORRECTLY. NOW WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? PUT A MONORAIL DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO. YOU'VE OVERBUILT THAT ROAD, RIGHT. YOU'VE HAD, THERE WAS NO PLANNING. IT WAS SELL LAND, LET 'EM COME IN. RIGHT? SO I I I'M COMPLETELY AGREE WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER ROUTE 77, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT GAS STATIONS BELONG ON THE HIGHWAY. THEY DON'T BELONG IN NEIGHBORHOODS. RIGHT. THERE'S A, YOU CAN ASK THE PEOPLE HERE THAT'LL COME UP WITH A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SEVEN 11, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A 24 HOUR GAS STATION. THEY DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP 20 THINGS THAT I COULD BRING UP RIGHT NOW LIKE SKY GLOW, LIKE NOISE POLLUTION, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA AFFECT THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. THOSE KIDS GOING THROUGH THERE, THAT'S OUR PRIME CONCERN. THAT'S EVERYBODY'S PRIME CONCERN. AND AS ONE WOMAN BROUGHT UP, AND I'M SORRY THAT I FORGOT YOUR NAME, THOSE KIDS ARE GONNA CUT RIGHT ACROSS THAT GAS STATION AND THERE'S NEVER GONNA BE ANYBODY THERE TO STOP 'EM UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS HIT BY A CAR. RIGHT. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THIS COMMUNITY ON THIS APPLICATION, I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, BUT MAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THERE WHEN SOME KID GETS HIT BY A CAR. I HAVE BEEN A FIRST RESPONDER AS WELL AND UH, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT HAPPENS TO BE DRIVING BY AND SEEING A KID GET HIT BY A CAR AND HOLDING THEM IN THE PARKING LOT UNTIL OUR EMTS GET THERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE LOOKING OUT MY WINDOW SEEING LIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND SMELLING GASOLINE. BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW WHEN PEOPLE PUMP GAS, IT GOES ON THE GROUND. RIGHT? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. AND WHERE'S THAT GAS GOING WHEN THEY WASH IT DOWN? LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA BRING UP ALL 20, I TRY TO KEEP IT WITHIN MY FIVE, FIVE MINUTES, BUT I, I JUST, I JUST WANT YOU TO PUT DEEP THOUGHT INTO THIS AND I WANT YOU TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND I WANT YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. ONE LAST QUESTION. YES SIR. AND IT'S JUST, SO IF THERE WASN'T ANY GAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONVENIENCE STATION, IS THAT IF IT'S A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, WELL IT'D BE RETAIL. I MEAN IF IT WAS JUST A SEVEN 11 THAT DIDN'T HAVE GAS, 'CAUSE THERE'S, I PASS ONE EVERY DAY AND RICHARDSON ONE, I HAVE TO GO UP THERE AND TAKE MY SON TO THE DOCTOR. THERE'S, THERE ARE CONVENIENCE STORES THAT DON'T HAVE GAS. IF THERE WAS NOT GAS AT THAT STATION, BECAUSE THAT AREA, AS YOU SAID, YOU LOOKED AT IT IS ALL ZONED RETAIL AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE RETAIL THERE AND THERE'S AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO STOP IT 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY AND THEY'VE GOT IT BY RIGHT. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I THINK IT'S MORE ACCEPTABLE. I THINK YOU CAN CONTROL IT BETTER AND YOU CAN ALSO CHANGE IT. YOU SAID YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT, BUT YOU CAN REZONE IT. NO SIR. WE CAN'T REZONE IN TEXAS AFTER IT'S BEEN ZONED, THAT HAS TO COME AT THE REQUEST OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS PROPERTY. DID I NOT HEAR THAT? IT WAS REZONED IN 2002 AT THE REQUEST OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. YEAH, BUT THAT, THAT CHANGED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO NOW. UM, WHEN THEY CHANGED THE ANNEXATION LAWS, UH, WE CAN'T ARBITRARILY CHANGE THE ZONING ON LAND WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTING THAT. SO TO THAT POINT, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN WRIGHT WAS JUST ASKING. WE KEEP, WE'RE FOCUSED AND I, THIS IS ONE THING THAT I'VE, I'VE I'VE TRIED TO HIT ON OFTEN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SEVEN 11 RIGHT NOW BY RIGHT. IT CAN BE GENERAL RETAIL. SO THE ARGUMENT, AND THIS IS, I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO SAY THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KIDS BECAUSE I DO. UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I WAS THE ONE THAT FOUGHT TO GET, UH, THE SIDEWALKS OVER, UM, ON NOT PENN. WHAT IS THAT GRAHAM? OH, ANYWAYS, PETER'S OH, PETER STREET PETER'S. YEAH. BUT THIS IS ALREADY ZONED. NO, AND FROM LIKE THE REALTY SIDE, NOBODY'S GOING TO REZONE IT [01:45:01] TO BE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S WORTH A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE GENERAL RETAIL. SO THE ARGUMENT AND, AND THE THE THOUGHT OF WE'RE GONNA PROTECT THE CHILDREN MORE BY NOT HAVING THEM CROSS AN ENTRYWAY TO A BUSINESS. THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS THERE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A TURN IN. SO IF THAT TURN IN, AGAIN, IF THE KIDS ARE GONNA WALK ON THE STRAIGHTEST LINE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THAT'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, A DENTIST'S OFFICE, IT DOES NOT MATTER. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE THERE AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF WRAP, WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND. IT'S ALREADY ZONED. IT'S NOT GOING TO, THAT ZONING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT AT SOME POINT ON THAT STREET. COUNCILMAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING LITTLE OF A BIG DEAL. A SEVEN 11 AND A GAS STATION'S GONNA BRING IN WAY MORE PEOPLE IN A DOCTOR'S OFFICE IS GONNA BE BRING IN. OKAY. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WOULD PROBABLY WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A DOCTOR'S OFFICE BEING THERE BECAUSE DOCTORS DON'T WORK AT NIGHT. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE, SIR. I'M JUST TALKING ON, ON THE ENTRANCE AND I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S TYPES OF, THERE'S TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT CAN BE VERY HARMONIOUS WITH THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T DISAGREE EITHER. AND THIS IS ONE THAT I DON'T THINK IS HARMONIOUS WITH THIS COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU. THAT'S THE DECISION I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO MAKE. AND I, AND I I KNOW YOUR HANDS ARE ALSO TIED TO A, A DEGREE YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHT? TO JUST RULE AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. THERE'S LAWS AND ZONING REGULATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND LAWSUITS THAT CAN TAKE PLACE IF YOU GO, IF YOU, IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S OUTTA THE ORDINARY. BUT I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT. HI, MY NAME IS RAYMOND CHAVARRIA. I LIVE AT 2 2 5 LT TRAIL. UM, MAYOR COUNCIL. UM, I HAVE TO TO SPARE YOU GUYS YOUR TIME. I WILL GO OVER MY ENTIRE LIST. BUT, UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT COME TO MIND WHEN LOOKING AT THIS PROPOSAL. ONE BEING NOTHING WAS STATED AS FAR AS CONSIDERATION WHAT THE TWO STORY LIVING RESIDENCES. UH, THESE TREES MAY OR MAY NOT BLOCK OUT THE ENTIRE LIGHTS. AND WE ALL KNOW MAYBE TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS ARE UPSTAIRS. SO THESE, I I KNOW WE CAN BLOCK 'EM OUT INSIDE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH 24 HOUR LIGHT POLLUTION. UM, ANOTHER CONCERN WOULD BE WITH THE POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE ILLEGAL U-TURNS. UM, EVEN IF THEY WERE TO MAKE THAT TURN ON GARDEN VALLEY AND COME OUT INTO BROADHEAD, THAT IS A TWO-LANE ROAD GOING IN ONE DIRECTION AND A TWO LANE ROAD GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. AND WITH THAT CONGESTION FROM THE NEARBY I GUESS RESIDENCE AND OR OTHER BUSINESSES, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO SAY ONE LANE WOULD BE PURELY FOR A SEVEN 11 EXIT. MAKING THE CONGESTION WAY WORSE EVEN WITH THE STOP SIGNS. AND LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, WE'RE LOOKING DIRECTLY SURROUNDING SEVEN 11, BUT IF YOU KIND OF BRANCH OUT A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE THE SENIOR LIVING CENTER, THE HOA COMMUNITY POOL AND JUST BEYOND THAT IS A DAYCARE CENTER AND THEN AROUND THAT BLOCK IS THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO TO SAY THAT THIS SEVEN 11 IS ONLY AFFECTING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WOULD HIGHLY DISAGREE WITH THAT POINT. I THINK, UH, PARENTS FROM THOSE DAYCARE CENTERS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL MAKE THEIR WAY DOWN THAT ROAD EVENTUALLY CAUSING MORE CONGESTION IN THAT EXIT, UH, LEADING TO BROADHEAD. SO I MEAN, IT MAY BE CONVENIENCE TO SOME, BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME TODAY HAVE SPOKEN OTHERWISE AND ME BEING ONE, UM, I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT. MY NAME IS MARIAH IAN. I LIVE AT 2 7 9 MOON SHADOW DRIVE AND MY HOUSE IS RIGHT OFF OF GARDEN VALLEY IN THE BUFFALO RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. I, UM, I WORK FOR A COMPANY OUT OF SILICON VALLEY AND MY HUSBAND AND I, WE COULD LIVE ANYWHERE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOVING TO ITALY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOVING BACK TO CALIFORNIA. BUT WE CHOSE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I COULD GO OUT AND WALK WITH MY BABY AT NIGHT AND FEEL SAFE. WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE WE HAD A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN OUR CITY. I SPENT MORE [01:50:01] TIME STUDYING YOU FOLKS THAN I EVER DID A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. 'CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE CONTROL OVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN MY LIFE. I TAKE MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD TO SCHOOL AT WILMAN EVERY MORNING. AND WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I CAN'T TAKE HER DOWN BROADHEAD. I CAN'T GET OUT OF GARDEN VALLEY. I'M TRAPPED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE TO GO WINE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT TO MEGAN SO THAT WE CAN GET ON THE ACCESS ROAD TO GET ONTO THE FREEWAY SO THAT I CAN GO DOWN AND GET OVER TO WMAN IN TIME FOR MY BABY TO GET TO SCHOOL. I WALK AROUND MY BLOCK WITH MY 1-YEAR-OLD IN HER STROLLER AT NIGHT AND I DON'T, MY HUSBAND DOESN'T HAVE TO GO WITH ME. AND I'VE JUST, AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, MY HUSBAND CAME HOME AND I TOLD HIM, WE HAVE TO MOVE. I CAN'T, WE HAVE TO MOVE. AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR OTHER PLACES TO LIVE, WHICH MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY, BUT I DON'T LOVE IT MORE THAN MY CHILDREN OR MY OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT NOT JUST THE LIGHT. I KNOW KIDS ARE GONNA CROSS THE STREET NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, BUT I MEAN, AT THIS POINT YOU COULD PUT A LIQUOR STORE THERE, YOU COULD PUT A SMOKE SHOP THERE, YOU COULD PUT A MECHANIC SHOP. BUT NOW WE'VE DECIDED TO DO A COMBINATION OF ALL THREE AND I JUST CAN'T THINK OF A WORST CASE SCENARIO PAST THIS. AND SO I, I DID VOTE FOR YOU ALL AND I TRUST THAT YOU'LL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WILLIAM NORMAN. I LIVE AT 2 29 FORT ROSES DRIVE. MY HOUSE IS LESS THAN TWO YEARS OLD. WHEN I MOVED HERE, MY HOUSE WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED. THAT WAS NOTHING BEHIND ME. THERE WAS NOTHING BESIDE ME. IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS I'VE WATCHED THEM BUILD AN ADDITIONAL 100 HOUSES. SO I'M WATCHING WAXAHATCHEE GROW. I DID 24 YEARS IN THE MILITARY. I WAS A NUCLEAR WEAPONS TECHNICIAN. I DEALT WITH CHEMICALS. I NEED VIETNAM. THERE'S A STORM. I'M ALSO A RETIRED PEACE OFFICER. I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I KNEW THAT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. BUT NOW THAT IT'S HAPPENING, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT DRIVES A GAS VEHICLE. I NEED GAS FOR MY CARS. THE OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT I HAVE THAT I NEED GAS FOR, I DON'T SEE THAT A SERVICE STATION IS GOING TO TAKE A LIFE. I'VE BEEN TO THE POOL IN MY COMMUNITY IN THE SUMMERTIME, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT BECAUSE THAT THING IS OFF THE CHAIN. I WANNA SEE CHANGE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M FROM CALIFORNIA CONGESTION. I'M USED TO DEALING WITH, I'M USED TO DEALING WITH THE CONGESTION I SEE HERE OTHER TOM THOM JUST UP THE STREET, VERY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN THERE TWICE. I ENJOY GOING OVER THERE. I NEED SOMETHING CLOSE TO ME 'CAUSE I'M GETTING OLDER. I'M ALMOST 80. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I REALIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE. DON'T FEEL PRESSURED. NEXT. HI, RYAN SIMPSON, TWO 17 STAMPEDE STREET. I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY SINCE 1992 IN THAT HOUSE IN GARDEN VALLEY SINCE 2007 ROUGHLY. I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE GARDEN VALLEY RANCH, HOA. SO I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE HOA MEETING. SO THEY DID MEET WITH OUR HOA NOT AWARE OF A REQUEST FOR A FOLLOW-UP, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DIDN'T TRY. BUT, UH, WE DID HAVE THE INITIAL ZOOM MEETING THAT I THINK MULTIPLE HOAS WERE INVOLVED IN. SO I WANNA SAY, UH, TONIGHT, LIKE TRAVIS HAS BROUGHT UP IT'S ZONE GENERAL RETAIL. IT'S, IF NOT THIS, THEN WHAT? SO THAT'S REALLY THE CONSIDERATION HERE. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER USES THAT MIGHT BE POTENTIALLY LESS DESIRABLE THAN A SEVEN 11. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO CONSIDER. UH, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A CONVENIENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I INITIALLY DIDN'T THINK THAT IN FACT YOU'LL FIND MY LETTER OF OPPOSITION IN THAT PACKET OF HOWEVER MANY LETTERS WAS SUBMITTED. BUT AFTER GIVING IT SOME THOUGHT, UM, I'VE CHANGED MY STANCE AND I THINK, UH, I THINK THE SEVEN 11 WOULD BE A BENEFIT. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I DON'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, [01:55:07] THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RYAN YOUNG. I RESIDE AT TWO 30 MOCKINGBIRD DRIVE, WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS. I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BUFFALO RIDGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I'M HERE IN THAT CAPACITY FOR THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. THE BUFFALO RIDGE BOARDS OF DIRECTORS AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A COMMUNICATION OF ANY KIND FROM THE APPLICANT SPECIAL USE PERMIT ZDC 1 39 20 24 OR ITS REPRESENTATIVES. NEITHER HAVE THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR HOA COMMUNICATED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT ANY MEETING, ANY RESIDENT THE APPLICANT COMMUNICATED WITH WAS NOT AUTHORIZED TO REPRESENT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR OUR ASSOCIATION. ANY COMMUNICATION THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE RECEIVED WAS NOT DISCUSSED OR APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND TO DATE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS TAKEN NO POSITION ABOUT SPECIAL USE PERMIT ZDC 1 39 20 24. NOW, UH, ALL COMMENTS FROM HERE ON HOUR TO MY ARE IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY AS A CONCERNED RESIDENT AT HOMEOWNER. I WOULD REQUEST THE STAFF, UH, BRING UP SLIDE 12 FROM THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH OVER 11 YEARS EXPERIENCE. I HAVE WORKED IN PUBLIC POLICY AND POLITICS FOR 12 YEARS ADVISING FEDERAL AND STATE LEGISLATORS AND CANDIDATES FOR OFFICE NATIONWIDE. AND HERE AT TEXAS, YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY EFFECTS OF IMPROVING THIS GAS STATION CLOSE TO RESIDENCES IN A SCHOOL. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE LEGISLATORS I WORK WITH WOULD CARE ABOUT. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF 560 HOMES AVERAGES APPROXIMATELY $450,000 IN VALUE AND REPRESENTS A $250 MILLION REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE. THE ADJACENT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS NEXT DOOR REPRESENT A COMPARABLE INVESTMENT THAT WILL ALSO BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED. THE TOTAL INVESTMENT ACCOUNTS TO NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF $1 BILLION AND $4.5 MILLION IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. SEVEN 11 PROJECTS 50 TO $60,000 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THEY WON'T TELL YOU THEIR AVERAGE SALES PER LOCATION, BUT IT'S APPROXIMATELY $2.3 MILLION. THIS MEANS THE CITY CAN EXPECT TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL $47,680 IN SALES TAX REVENUE EACH YEAR APPROXIMATELY $108,000. THE BEST CASE SCENARIO OF PROPERTY TAX LOSS IS APPROXIMATELY 700, I'M SORRY, $175,000. THE WORST CASE, NEARLY $600,000 IN LOST PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY. THE CITY WAXAHATCHEE WILL LOSE MONEY ON THIS DEAL. WHAT DOES THE WORST CASE COST US? 3% OF ALL PROPERTY TAXES COLLECTED IN 2024, TWICE THE CITY ATTORNEY BUDGET FOR 2024. THE ENTIRE 2024 BUDGETS FOR ANIMAL CONTROL, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND MUNICIPAL COURTS. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU IS A 2022 STUDY THAT A PLANO REAL ESTATE FIRM CONDUCTED OF 400,000 DFW HOME SALES AND THEIR PROXIMITY TO GAS STATIONS. THE STUDY SHOWED THAT HOMES WITHIN ONE MILE OF A GAS STATION EXPERIENCED LOWER VALUES AT SALE. WHEN THE HOME WAS WITHIN 500 FEET OF A GAS STATION. THAT DIFFERENCE WAS 30% OR $100,000 COMPARED TO A HOUSE ONE MILE AWAY. SO BASED UPON THIS STUDY, THE 46 HOMES WITHIN 500 FEET WOULD LOSE APPROXIMATELY $6.2 MILLION IN VALUE. THE ADDITIONAL 44 HOMES WITHIN 800 FEET WOULD LOSE $5.3 MILLION IN VALUE. AND THE 470 HOMES LOCATED WITHIN 0.7 MILES WOULD LOSE $19 MILLION IN VALUE FOR A TOTAL LOST PROPERTY VALUE OF APPROXIMATELY $30.5 MILLION. BUT CORRELATION DOESN'T EQUAL CAUSATION, RIGHT? THIS IS ELLIS COUNTY, NOT DALLAS AND TARRANT COUNTIES. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF OVER $400,000 PER HOUSE. CLEARLY NOT THE SAME. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT STUDY ADDRESSED THE IDENTICAL SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HERE. THEY LOOKED AT SALES IN DENTON AND COLONY COUNTIES AND HOMES OVER $400,000 IN VALUE. IN THOSE STUDIES, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 500 FEET AND ONE MILE WAS 15% OR $74,000. SO LOOKING AT THIS, AGAIN, THE 46 HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN 500 FEET WOULD LOSE $3.1 MILLION IN SALE VALUE. 44 HOMES WITHIN 800 FEET WOULD LOSE $2.2 MILLION IN VALUE. AND THE 470 HOMES WITHIN 0.7 MILES WILL LOSE APPROXIMATELY $4.2 MILLION IN VALUE. FOUR TOTAL LOST VALUE OF APPROXIMATELY $9.6 MILLION. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? IT MEANS, IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, WE LOSE $9.6 MILLION IN PROPERTY VALUE. AND IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WE LOSE $30.5 MILLION IN VALUE. SIR, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ THIS ARTICLE? YES. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY HOME DEPRECIATING IN VALUE. THIS IS ABOUT HOME APPRECIATION. YES. WHICH MEANS [02:00:01] INCREASE. WHAT'S THAT? WHICH MEANS AN INCREASE? DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE? YEAH, I JUST DID IT. I'M LOOKING AT THIS GRAPH THAT YOU KEEP REFERENCING AND IT SAYS APPRECIATION OVER TWO YEARS. APPRECIATION MEANS THAT THE HOME INCREASED IN VALUE. THE ARGUMENT IS, IS THAT, THAT THIS STEVEN MCCORD MAKES IS THAT WITHIN 800 FEET OF A GAS STATION, THE HOME ONLY APPRECIATED 11.9%. I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP 'CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY MY NEXT POINT. BUT THAT'S NOT A DECREASE. NO, HE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT APPRECIATION FROM 2017 TO 2021 IN THAT STATE. NOPE. THIS IS OVER TWO YEARS. WHAT'S THAT? THIS IS OVER TWO YEARS. OH, 2019 TO 21. I'M SORRY, YOU GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M ABOUT TO WRAP UP. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, THE SAME STUDY SHOWED THAT THOSE HOMES WITHIN 800 FEET OF A GAS STATION, UM, APPRECIATE AT ONE HALF THE VALUE OF HOMES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT 800 FOOT BARRIER. SO THAT 11.9% FIGURE THAT YOU REPRESENT, IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT 800 FOOT CIRCLE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY APPRECIATING IT 22%. SO THE APPRECIATION RATE IS ACTUALLY SLOWER. YOU ACTUALLY HURT THE HOMES THAT ARE CLOSER IN THEIR ABILITY, BUT WE'RE NOT LOSING MONEY. WHAT'S THAT? NOBODY'S LOSING MONEY AND THEN YOU'RE NOT LOSING VALUE IN YOUR HOME. THAT'S A SCARE TACTIC THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO USE. AND I'M NOT DEFENDING ANYBODY HERE. YEAH, IT'S A SCARE TACTIC THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO USE TO WORDSMITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS. TELL 'EM THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOSE VALUE IN THEIR HOMES. THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE VALUE IN IN THEIR HOMES. THEIR HOME IS NOT GONNA GO FROM THREE 70 TO THREE 40 BECAUSE THE GAS STATION'S THERE. NOW, IT MIGHT NOT GO FROM THREE 70 TO 400 AS FAST, BUT IT'S NOT, THEY AREN'T GONNA LOSE MONEY IN THEIR HOME. AND THIS STUDY SAYS THAT NO, IT DOESN'T. YES IT DOES, SIR. NO, IT DOESN'T. APPRECIATION OVER TWO YEARS IS 11.9% WITHIN 800 FEET. IT YES, IT'S TALKING ABOUT APPRECIATION, NOT DEPRECIATION MAKING, IT'S MAKING A COMPARISON IN TERMS OF RELATIVE APPRECIATION BETWEEN HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN 800 FEET OF A GAS STATION AND EX IN EXCESS OF 800 FEET. BUT YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IT, IT SAYS THAT THE HOME STILL INCREASES IN VALUE OVER THE YEARS. YES. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE AVERAGE DFW HOME APPRECIATED IN VALUE NEARLY 50% IN THAT TIME PERIOD, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 11% APPRECIATION. IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP 15 SECONDS. YES MA'AM. UM, VERY SIMPLE. UH, SLIDE 12. I'D LIKE TO JUST REFERENCE THIS FINAL POINT HERE, WHICH IS IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS ONE BUFFALO RIDGE HOAI ADVISE LEGISLATORS AND I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT YOU ASK THE APPLICANT HOW MANY BUFFALO BRIDGE. HOAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE PROTE IN CHINA, SIR? HOWEVER MANY, HOWEVER MANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THERE ARE IN BUFFALO RIDGE REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, CLAIMS THAT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. MY STATEMENT PREVIOUSLY IS THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION FROM ON YOUR, FROM THE AFTER ON YOUR STUDY HERE THAT YOU BROUGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER STUDIES THAT SHOW ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN THIS ONE GENTLEMAN IN PLANO? UH, NO SIR, I DO NOT. ARE THERE ANY ON THAT, COMPARE THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE HOMES THAT ARE IN WAXAHATCHEE THAT ARE APPROXIMATE TO GAS STATIONS THAT ARE THERE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED? DID YOU LOOK AT THAT AT ALL TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THEIR PROPERTY VALUES? THAT THE THE EXTENT OF THAT STUDY, AS I'M AWARE, IS THE DALLAS COUNTY, TARRANT COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY, AND COLLIN COUNTY AND ELLIS COUNTY WAS NOT INCLUDED AT. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU'VE GOTTEN THE INFORMATION FROM THERE. DID YOU DO ANY RESEARCH LOCALLY TO SEE WHAT IT'S DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING LEWISVILLE, PLANO, DENTON, THOSE TOWNS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LANDLOCKED A LOT OF THEM. AND IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY IS THERE. I'M JUST ASKING. SURE. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IS ANY COMPARISONS, THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT, 'CAUSE I ALSO WANTED TO ASK THE GENTLEMAN THAT HAD THE BENZENE THING, THAT THE STUDIES THAT THEY'RE SHOWING THAT ARE THESE INTERNATIONAL STUDIES ARE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL GUY THAT DID IT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL GUY THAT DID THAT. DO ANY OR HAVE ANY INFORMATION PERTAINING TO WAXAHATCHEE WHERE WE'VE HAD GAS STATIONS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS FOR YEARS. AND IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY ILL HEALTH EFFECTS ON ANY OF THE CITIZENS ANYWHERE IN THESE AREAS WHERE THESE HAVE BEEN, AND THESE ARE OLD STATIONS, NOT WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE'RE WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THIS IS REALLY, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT. 'CAUSE LIKE YOU GUYS, I'M NO EXPERT ON BENZENE, XYLENE, LENE ON ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT WE'VE HAD GAS STATIONS NEAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS. I MEAN, WE GOT TWO SCHOOLS THAT ARE SURROUNDED BY TWO GAS STATIONS ON, ON 77 OUT THERE WITH RACETRACK, WALMART AND HEB AND THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF THAT. YOU DIDN'T DO ENVIRONMENTAL. SO I'M ASKING THE WRONG PERSON, BUT [02:05:01] I HAVE SAY I I'M AFRAID. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. I APPRECIATE, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY COMPARISONS TO THIS. UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THIS IS SOME GUY IN PLANO THAT DID A, A STUDY UP THERE. YEAH. THEY, WELL, THE STUDY WAS OF OVER 400,000, UH, HOME SALES INSIDE OF DFW. SO IT WASN'T SPECULATING ABOUT APPRECIATION, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE HOME SALE VALUES THEMSELVES COMPARED TO EACH OTHER. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HEARD? YEAH, I, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE LONG. OKAY. YEAH. HI, MARNI CRUM. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 2, 3, 6 BRAZOS DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, LIKE WE SAID, AGAIN, UNDERSTAND IT'S COMPLETELY ZONED FOR RETAIL. JUST WOULD LIKE THAT CONSIDERATION TO NOT APPROVE SOMETHING THAT'S 24 HOURS ON BROADHEAD. WE HAVE NO STREET LIGHTS. WE HAVE THE ONE STOP SIGN DOWN AT THE 2 87. UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING PUTTING IN ANOTHER STOP SIGN. UM, BUT IT'S STILL A MAJOR CLUSTER AND WE ARE BUILDING CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION OF ANOTHER GAS STATION, LESS THAN ONE MILE DOWN THE ROAD FROM THAT. SO AGAIN, JUST CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT 24 HOURS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAN I ASK THESE GENTLEMEN A QUESTION ONCE HE'S FINISHED? I'LL LEAVE. SURE, SURE. I'M, I'M JUST QUICK. UH, MY NAME'S ARTURO DEON, 1 0 9 VALLEY RANCH COURT. UM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALK AND HE SAID IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NEW BECAUSE OF THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY. THE FIRST ONE WAS TO GO BEHIND IT, AND THEN TODAY THEY CAME UP WITH THE NEW ONE TO COME IN FRONT OF IT. SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN LAST TIME WAS THE KIDS WALKING BEHIND THE STORE, WHICH IS CORRECT. WHICH AGAIN, WHEN THE LAST MEETING, THIS MEETING, THEY'RE FUMBLING THROUGH A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. AND YOU WERE THERE AND YOU SAW, MY BIGGEST THING IS THE LIGHTING. MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY, IF I'M LOOKING AT YOU, I'M LOOKING AT HAMILTON, THE LIGHTING, AND YOU HAD A PICTURE, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT MY PHONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE FOR THE LIGHTING. AND IT IS CRAZY TO ME. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SETS FOR THE HAMILTON, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GAS STATION'S GONNA HAVE TWO TYPES OR THREE TYPES OF LIGHTING. SO IF YOU ARE EVER IN THE HAMILTON, COME DOWN THE STREET, YOU'RE GONNA SEE FOR 50 PEOPLE THAT ARE 55 YEARS OLD, WHO ARE GONNA BE IN BED BY NINE O'CLOCK, HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES. I, I'M 51. I'M ALMOST THERE. I'M IN BED EVERY DAY BY NINE O'CLOCK. BUT AGAIN, MY OTHER POINT, MY POINT IS THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE A 24 HOUR BUSINESS. TOM THUMB WENT IN THEIR BUSINESS HOURS ARE FROM 5:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THEY SHUT HER DOWN THIS MORNING. I LEFT AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE BLOCK. THERE ARE GONNA BE NO SALES ON HERE. IF YOU, YOU LOOK AT THEIR POINT, THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES 24 7. HOW CAN THE BUSINESS MAKE MONEY FROM 10:00 PM TO 5:00 AM IF YOU HAVE NO CUSTOMERS? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS IS THEY'LL BE OUTTA BUSINESS IN THREE TO 40 YEARS. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING WHEN EVERYBODY LEFT, JOHN SHOULD HAVE STAYED. THE MAN, THE GENTLEMAN, UH, MADE A STATEMENT THAT, UH, NORMAL SEVEN ELEVENS MAKE OVER $3 MILLION. THEY HOPE THIS ONE TO MAKE HALF THAT. NOW YOU TAKE 30% OF A 24 HOUR CLOCK AWAY. GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT AT A MILLION OR LESS TAXES, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. YOU'RE OUTTA BUSINESS IN THREE YEARS. NOBODY'S GONNA RUN THAT 10, 15, 20 YEARS. EVERYTHING UNDER THE GROUND, NOT BEING MAINTENANCE, NO MAINTENANCE DONE TO IT. GUESS WHAT IT'S GONNA BE WALKS OF HATCHES PROBLEM. THINK ABOUT THAT. I GREW UP IN THE OLD HATCH, ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM ME, WHERE THREE WELL SITES, THREE PUMP JACKS, TWO BLOCKS THE OTHER WAY, THREE MORE. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. I TOOK MY WIFE THE FIRST TIME TO WEST TEXAS. WE GOT IN TWO MILES OF TOWN. SHE SAID, WHAT IS THAT STENCH? I SAID, MONEY, BABY MONEY. AND IT'S GONNA VENT. I'M IN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY, BEING BORN AND RAISED IN THE OIL INDUSTRY. LEAKS HAPPEN. THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M OUT IN THE FIELD. I SEE GUSHERS, NASTY STUFF THAT HAPPENS. AGAIN, THESE GUYS, MY BIGGEST THING IS YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE SALES TO SUPPORT THE STORE BEING A HALF A MILE FROM THE SERVICE ROAD. AND IF YOU GOOGLE GAS STATIONS IN WAXAHATCHEE, THEY ARE ON BUSINESS 77, BUSINESS 2 87 AND GOOD OLD 35. THAT'S IT. THERE IS NOTHING MORE THAN 200 THAN, I DON'T KNOW, LESS THAN TWO TENTHS OF A MILE. THERE'S NO, NO. EVERYBODY IS RIGHT ON THOSE BUSINESS ACCESS [02:10:01] ROADS. THEY'RE NOT A HALF A MILE. I LEFT, I LEFT MY HOUSE CAME OUT. IT'S A HALF A MILE FROM THE STOP SIGN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO THE BRIDGE. AND ALSO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWN CLIMB BECAUSE I CAME OVER THE BRIDGE AFTER THE FIRST MEETING. I CAME OVER THE COLEMAN HOME, CAME OVER THE BRIDGE, AND IF YOU LOOK THE ROAD GOES DOWNWARD, PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA EXIT. AND IT'D BE LIKE, OH, I THINK THERE'S A GAS STATION OVER HERE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT WAY. YOU'LL HAVE A SIGN OUT ON THE ROAD JUST LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE. I GO UP AND DOWN 35. THE LAST THING I HAVE IS I STOP AT A ON 35 DOWN IN TEMPLE. I HIT A TRUCK STOP. I TALKED TO THE MANAGER THERE AND I ASKED HER ABOUT, 'CAUSE THEY'RE OPEN 24 7. SHE SAYS, WE ARE ON 35. SHE SAYS, MY PERSON BE LUCKY TO SEE 20 PEOPLE PER NIGHT. THAT'S ON 35. SO WE DON'T NEED IT. I WOULD PLEASE, I DON'T KNOW WHO I NEED TO TALK TO ABOUT THE LIGHTING FOR THE HAMILTON, BUT I WOULD LOVE SOMEBODY TO REACH OUT FOR ME. TURO, DEON 75 YAHOO.COM. WELL, IF IT'S ANY, ANY CONSTELLATION TO YOU ABOUT THE SEVEN 11, IF YOU'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HAMILTON, THAT SEVEN ELEVEN'S NOT GONNA BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM YOU NEXT DOOR. IT'S GONNA BE TO MY LEFT ANGLE HERE, I GOTTA PULL FOR YOU. YES, THE LIGHT, THE LIGHT IS STILL GONNA COME NO MATTER WHAT. LIKE I SAID, I FORGOT MY PHONE. THIS GENTLEMAN HERE CAN TELL YOU THE, THE LIGHTING FROM MY WELL, I SAW A PICTURE. I WAS HERE THE PICTURE. OH, YOU SHOWED. SO LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S NO ENJOYMENT FOR ME TO COME OUTSIDE IN MY BACKYARD. I UNDERSTAND. SO THIS, THIS IS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT LITTLE BIT MORE OFF TO MY LEFT. BUT OUR ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE, NOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU ASK HIM IF HE'D BEEN ABLE TO CHECK ON IT, BUT THE DO CAN BE LIGHTING DOESN'T. AND AND IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T GO OVER A CERTAIN THING PAST THE PROPERTY LINE. YOU CAN LOOK, YOU CAN SIT IN YOUR BACKYARD AND LOOK OVER THERE AND SEE THE LIGHT, BUT THE LIGHT CAN'T BE SHINING INTO YOUR YARD. I DON'T NEED A BACK PORCH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT I DON'T NEED, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THAT LIGHTING, THIS IS GONNA BE THERE WITH LIGHTING NO MATTER WHAT. NO, NO. I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE LIGHTING, THE LIGHTING IS NOT GOING TO SAY AT, AT 50 FEET, THE THE LIGHT MUST STOP AND DROP TO THE GROUND. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN, IN MY HOUSE. WHEN I WALK OUT MY BACK DOOR, WHICH I INVITE YOU TO MY HOUSE AT NIGHTTIME COME OVER, WE WON'T, WE WON'T NEED A PORCH LIGHT. RIGHT. WE'LL JUST WALK OUT THERE JUST LIKE IT IS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, WHICH HAS MADE, AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE AND RESALE VALUE. I BOUGHT, I, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 13. I MOVED FROM TULSA, OKLAHOMA TO HERE. AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS AWESOME. NOBODY'S GONNA BE BEHIND ME. AND THEN GUESS WHAT? BUT THE THING ABOUT IT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THE PARKING LOT IS FIVE FEET ABOVE MY HEAD. THE PARKING LOCKED THE FIRST FLOOR, THE THIRD FLOOR IS WAY UP THERE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE SEVEN 11, THE LIGHTING, AND AGAIN, WITH NO 1 24, 7, IT IS UNREAL. TOM THUMB ON 77 HAS BUSINESS HOURS OF 5:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND THEY SHUT HER DOWN. WHAT AGAIN? YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE PEOPLE COME TO YOUR STORE, UM, FROM 10 TO MIDNIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S GOTTA BE YOUR FIVE MINUTES, SIR. WE NEED TO MOVE THIS THING. LET'S WRAP UP FORWARD. HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'M GONNA BE QUICK. MY NAME IS MICHAEL LANDRY. I LIVE AT 2 3 3 4 ROSES DRIVE. REASON I POINTED THEM GENTLEMEN. I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE PHONE CALL TO HIM. SO LET'S GET THIS CLEAR. THAT WAS NOT, I WAS NOT ACTING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR, OUR HOA, WHICH I EXPLAINED THAT TO BOTH OF THEM TO TALK TO US. OH, NO, NO, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I EXPLAINED TO BOTH OF 'EM. THE REASON I CALLED WAS I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MEETING LOCATION WAS, AND I WAS ALSO ON A ZOOM CALL WITH THEM AS WELL. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS THAT HAD EXPRESSED THEIR DISCONTENT FOR HAVING THE SEVEN 11 THERE. AND THEY STATED VERY THREE REASONS WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT IT THERE. AND I CAN SAY 65% OF IT, THEY ACTUALLY ADDRESSED IT. THEY ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS IT, BUT THEN IT WAS 45%, 35%. THEY ACTUALLY SKIPPED OVER. UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO ALL THAT, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO SEE. THEY DID TRY TO ADDRESS SOME, BUT THE PHONE CALL THAT I HAD WITH THEM, I CALLED AND I ASKED THEM, WHERE WAS THE MEETING? AND I TOLD 'EM WHO I WAS. THEY SAID, OH, YOU WAS ON A ZOOM CALL? I SAID, YES, I WAS. I'M A RESIDENT OF BUFFALO RIDGE. THEY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, CAN WE DO WHATEVER? I SAID, WELL, WHAT I CAN DO IS CHECK WHAT OUR PRESIDENT TO SEE IF HE HAVE SPACE ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU. AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I ASKED OUR PRESIDENT, HE SAID, OUR AGENDA IS FULL. BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE INHERITED FROM THE DEVELOPERS. THAT WAS WAY BEFORE PRESIDENTS THAN [02:15:01] THAT AT THE TIME. UM, DEALING WITH THE COYOTES THAT WE HAVE A SEVERE PROBLEM WITH. UM, AND OUR PRESIDENT IS DOING A FABULOUS JOB CONTACTING SO MANY DIFFERENT, UH, AGENCIES, SIR. AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT HELP YET, SIR. WE UNDERSTAND. OH, AGENDA. OH NO, I'M, I'M, I'M, CAN I FI I DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF. PLEASE DON'T CUT ME OFF. LET ME, LET ME FINISH. AND WE HAD OTHER MATTERS THAT WAS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE. SO OUR PRESIDENT SAY, LOOK, WE CAN'T PUT HIM ON THE AGENDA NOW. WE MAKE HIM DO IT LATER ON. NOT ONE TIME DID THEY REACH BACK OUT. AND I TOLD 'EM, YOU CANNOT BE ON THE AGENDA AT THIS MOMENT. THAT WAS WHAT I SAID, YOU CANNOT BE ON THE AGENDA AT THIS MOMENT. NEVER DID I SAY YOU CANNOT COME TO A MEETING. YOU CANNOT BE A PART OF IT. THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO US. THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO OUR PRESIDENT. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP BECAUSE I'M HEARING IT KEEPS SAYING THAT WE DENY NO, IT WAS A CALL TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MEETING WAS. AND THAT SPREAD, THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO US. GORDON, GORDON VALLEY REPRESENTATIVE SENT US, WELL, SENT EVERYBODY AN EMAIL INVITING THEM TO THE ZOOM CALL. THAT'S HOW WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS. THE INITIAL MEETING OF THE ZOOM CALL. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, AND I TOOK OFF WORK TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE, HEY, HEY, WAIT, DON'T MISS REPRESENT WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT PHONE CALL. SO IF THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO REACH BACK OUT TO US, THEY DIDN'T, THEY NEVER, INITIALLY THEY NEVER DID. IF I DIDN'T NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MEETING WAS, THAT CONVERSATION WOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED. OKAY. I'M NOT FOR SEVEN ELEVENS. I'M NOT AGAINST SEVEN ELEVENS. I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT MYSELF, MORE LIKE YOU GUYS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT CALL UP AND WHAT IT WAS ABOUT AND ME REACHING OUT TO HIM WAS SIMPLY TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MEETING WAS AND TRYING TO FACILITATE. BUT AGAIN, OUR PRESIDENT NEVER SAID NO, JUST THAT OUR AGENDA AT THAT POINT, WE HAD TOO MANY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. UM, DEALING WITH OUR OWN HOA SIR, JUST TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR, THEY DON'T HAVE TO REACH OUT TO AN HOA, THAT WAS A COURTESY THAT THEY ATTEMPTED. SO JUST KNOW THAT NOBODY, NO DEVELOPER HAS, IS REQUIRED TO REACH OUT TO THE HOA FOR APPROVAL, FOR A MEETING FOR ANYTHING. SO THAT, AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT, BUT THE WAY HE, HE'S STATING WE CAN'T GET WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT WE CAN'T CONSIDER THAT OH, NO, NO, NO. IN OUR DECISION, THE WAY HE'S STATING THAT WE CALLED HIM TO I UNDERSTAND ACT. BUT AT THE OF THE DAY, THIS IS A'S WHAT I, I'M CLEARING UP. NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S WHAT HE PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD LAST. WE CAN'T CONSIDER IT. OH NO, NO. HE PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD ON THE FOURTH AND THE 18TH, SIR. AND THAT, OH, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SORRY MAYOR. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. IS THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME NAME'S MIKE SUN. GLAD I AM FOUR 10 SUNSET COURT THING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR YOU GUYS IS, IS THAT THEIR FOOT TRAFFIC STUDY IS NOT GONNA BE ACCURATE CONSIDERING THAT THE EXPANSION OF THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE EXPANSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S TAKING PLACE CURRENTLY THERE IS GONNA INCREASE THE FOOT TRAFFIC. SO KEEP IN MIND THERE'S GONNA BE MORE STUDENTS COMING THROUGH THERE. AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO BRING UP AND HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. UH, WE DON'T NEED ANY CLAPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. BUT OKAY. SO WE ARE NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, AND NOW COUNSEL WILL DISCUSS, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TO DISCUSS, I'M GONNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 10. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THESE GENTLEMEN A QUICK QUESTION. OKAY. YOU SURE HAVE ONE. YOU HAVE MINE. I DON'T NEED IT. AND JUST TO THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC MEETING'S CLOSED, SO WE MIGHT START ASKING THESE GUYS QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. BUT I, SINCE YOU GUYS ARE HERE IN THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR SEVEN 11 FOR THAT SPECIFIC STORE IS NOT THERE. A COUPLE QUICK THINGS. CAN YOU CLARIFY? YES, BECAUSE SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP. IS IT GONNA BE A FRANCHISE OF, OR IS THIS GONNA BE A CORPORATELY OWNED STORE? CORPORATE CORPORATELY OWNED STORE. SO, AND WHERE IS AND WHERE IS THEIR HEADQUARTERS? IN IRVING, TEXAS. OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A CORPORATE STORE OWNED BY THE COMPANY, CORRECT. NOT RUN BY FRANCHISEES. CORRECT. BUT THE SECOND QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE MANY OF THESE GUYS AS A COMPROMISE, IF I WANT TO SAY THAT WERE SAYING, WELL, IF IT HAD TO GO THERE, AT LEAST IF IT COULD NOT BE 24 HOURS. SO ARE THEY AT ALL AMENABLE TO NOT BEING A 24 HOUR STORE? I MEAN, THEY GOT THEIR NAME SEVEN 11 'CAUSE THEY USED TO BE OPEN FROM SEVEN TO 11. CORRECT. SO 24 HOUR, THEY WILL LIMIT THEIR OPERATIONS WHEN [02:20:01] A CITY ORDINANCE MANDATES IT, SUCH AS IF WG HAD A O HOURS OPERATION TIME, THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY ADHERE TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF WE'VE TOLD 'EM THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET APPROVED IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS YOU'D ONLY BE OPEN THESE HOURS. WOULD THEY BE ACCEPTABLE TO THAT? I, I'VE Y'ALL HAVE Y'ALL DISCUSSED IT AT ALL? WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED IT BECAUSE THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN DEEMED A 24 HOUR STORE. THERE'S CURRENTLY WAXAHATCHEE, THERE'S 14 OF THE 21 GAS STATIONS IN WAXAHATCHEE ARE 24 HOUR OPERATIONS. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES AREN'T THE ONES IN FRONT OF THE GROCERY STORES MAINLY. AND THEN THE DK ON YEAH. POGS. YEP. AND THE EXXON RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YES. THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BESIDE THE SCHOOLS. YES. COURTESY. DON'T FORGET SAMMY'S RIGHT. WALKING DISTANCE FROM MY HOUSE. YEAH. SO THAT WAS A NOT A GOOD POINT ON THAT. WELL, I'M JUST, WE NEVER DISCUSSED IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T, AGAIN, AN ORDINANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE DID DISCUSS THAT DIMMING ALL OF THE, THE CANOPY LIGHTS AND THE LIGHTS ON THE BUILDING AT A CERTAIN TIME TO BE DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL. I I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. WE ALL KNOW THAT A DARK BUSINESS INVITES CRIME. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS. SO I'M DEFINITELY NOT FOR THAT. I WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE IT, THE REASON THAT THERE, THE LIGHTING IS THERE IS FOR THE SAFETY OF TURNING. I MEAN, IF IT'S OPEN, LET'S LIGHT THAT BABY UP. RIGHT. AND ALL, THERE IS NO 24 HOUR ORDINANCE IN THE CITY. AND THE LIGHTS, THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN SUP THOUGH, BUD. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ON IT. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WHAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION. HOW WOULD THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF, SOME OF THESE ARE 4:00 AM TO 12:00 AM UH, 4:30 AM TO 12:00 AM YEAH. BUT HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. AND I, I, I WANT YOU TO, I I WANT YOU TO DIGEST THIS AS SOFTLY AS POSSIBLE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE COMPLETELY BRASH HERE, UM, BUT I AM READY TO GET THIS THING MOVED ALONG. UM, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT JUST GAS STATIONS. WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD MULTIPLES. YES. THAT IS ZONED FOR GENERAL RETAIL. CORRECT. SO THOSE BUSINESSES OF OPERATION, UH, WOULDN'T BE AT 3:00 AM 4:00 AM 5:00 AM 6:00 AM IF IT'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR A DENTAL OFFICE OR WHAT ELSE IS ON YOUR LIST THAT YOU WERE EXCLUDING A FUNERAL HOME, A MOTEL AND HOTEL WOULD BE LIT 24 HOURS A DAY. YEAH. A MOTEL AND A HOTEL. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME TO US ANYWAYS 'CAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T OH, YOU GOT A, A LAUNDRY. YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR SIGNS. SO THEY WOULD BE COMING TO US FOR A PD. UM, SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT THIS LIST. UH, ANIMAL HOSPITAL OR KENNEL PROBABLY BE NINE TO FIVE. UH, ANTIQUE SHOP, THEY DON'T EVEN OPEN, BUT LIKE THREE DAYS A WEEK HERE. UM, AND WE HAVE 600 OF THEM. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ONE THERE. APPLIANCE, RENTAL SERVICE OR REPAIR. SAME THING BAKERY. THEN NOW THEY MIGHT START EARLIER THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL AT LEAST 10. UNDERSTOOD. UM, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO MY SUGGESTION, MAKE SOMETHING FIRST, LIKE HEB AND THE OTHER FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO 11 OR MIDNIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT NIGHT THEIR CLOSE IS, BUT IF ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE PRETTY MUCH CLOSED, THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE LOSING THE BUSINESS FROM THERE. UNDERSTOOD. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DOES DRAW A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE CONVENIENCE PART BECAUSE THE WHOLE PART OF THE CONVENIENCE PART WAS IF YOU NEEDED MILK OR WHATEVER, YOU COULD RUN THERE AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET MILK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. MM-HMM. . BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR WALMART QUIT OPENING 24 HOURS. OUR HEB STARTED CLOSING EARLIER AND THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR, THEIR HOURS. OUR WALGREENS DOESN'T STAY OPEN 24 HOURS. OUR CBS DOESN'T STAY OPEN 24 HOURS ANYMORE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE IF IT WERE TO BE A A IF IT WERE TO BE A, A THING TO CHANGE THOSE HOURS, TO ASK FOR THOSE CHANGES OF HOURS. OKAY. NOW, LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT EVEN PASSING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT, UM, IF IT WAS A CONSIDERATION, I I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S UNREASONABLE TO ASK FOR THAT. UNDERSTOOD. AND I, IF IF IT MEANS A, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD AND IT WOULD BE A, I KNOW YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION, CORRECT. WELL, I, I MEAN, CORRECT. YOU ARE CORRECT. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW RIGHT NOW WE CAN DECIDE WHAT THE HOURS WOULD BE, I GUESS IN THAT SCENARIO. LIKE WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD BE, WELL, WE COULD PUT IN THE, COULDN'T WE PUT IN THERE IF WE DID, WE CAN PUT IN WHATEVER THE HECK WE WANT TO IN THERE. WE COULD PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE HOURS, WE'D BE DETERMINED, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE ANY LATER THAN MIDNIGHT. NO EARLIER THAN FIVE IN THE MORNING. AND THAT REALLY RESTRICTS WHERE YOU COULD OPEN ANYWAY. IF WE DID THAT, COULD WE PUT THAT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? YES. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO, BUT COULD WE, AND WE HAVE BEFORE, AND THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT SOME GUIDELINES TO [02:25:01] GIVE THE SEVEN 11 GUYS AND SAY, ARE YOU, CAN YOU FOLLOW THIS? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? OR IS THAT OUTTA YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AND NOT GONNA DO IT? I WOULD SAY THE ABSOLUTE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE A 24 HOUR STORE. IF THERE THERE'S NOT AN OPTION FOR THAT, THEN YES, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY ENTERTAIN THAT. IT'S JUST HARD TO DETERMINE WHAT TIMES THAT WOULD BE. HOW IT WOULD AFFECT HOW, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON THIS LIST BY RIGHT. THAT THAT WOULD BE OPEN 24 24 7. YES. I MEAN THERE ARE, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF 52 THINGS THAT CAN GO WITH THIS LOCATION THAT WILL NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND B AND Z. CORRECT. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE OPEN 24 7. YES. THE WHATABURGER DOWN THE STREET. I KNOW THAT REQUIRES AN SUP AS WELL, BUT THAT IS OPEN 24 HOURS AND THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING OR FENCING THAT THERE WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE DIMMING THE LIGHTS AT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE SEASON. UM, OR NOT, SORRY. OR NOT DIMMING THE LIGHTS. JUST TRYING TO, TRYING TO PROVIDE WHATEVER WE CAN TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS. AND WE'RE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PRESENTED. SO MY POINT ABOUT WHEN THESE BUSINESSES WOULD OPEN, AND IT WOULD LARGELY BE NINE TO FIVE, EIGHT TO FIVE, IS THAT THE, THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PULLING INTO IT, AT LEAST, AT LEAST IF THEY WERE NOT OPENING TILL NINE, ALL THOSE KIDS COULD WALK TO SCHOOL DURING DUSK AND NOT HAVE AN ISSUE THERE. I DON'T THINK, UM, THAT THAT TIME WOULD NOT WORK FOR US. I, I DON'T, I KNOW IT WON'T. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GONNA VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. UM, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED AND THEY WEREN'T. UM, WE, IF YOU LOOK AT, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I DON'T REMEMBER WHO THAT WAS THREE HOURS AGO, I THINK. UM, BUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES PROMOTE INFILL AND IT DOES SUGGEST THAT WE, WE, WE PUT BUSINESSES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I'LL GO ON THE RECORD AGAIN. I VOTED AGAINST A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 'CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS FLAT. BUT TO THAT POINT, IT WAS, IT WAS NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES. IT WAS COFFEE SHOPS, A LAUNDROMAT. RIGHT. BUSINESSES SO THAT PEOPLE, A BAKERY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET IN THEIR CAR NECESSARILY AND DRIVE TO 77 THAT THEY COULD WALK TO. RIGHT. WELL, WHY ARE YOU WALKING TO A GAS STATION FOR A SLURPEE? I DON'T KNOW, . I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T, I MEAN, YOU'RE, I DON'T KNOW IF HOW MANY ARE GONNA CARRY THEIR GAS TANK FOR THE LAWNMOWER TO THE GAS STATION. I CAME IN, I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, I CAME INTO THIS MEETING AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE ANYTHING THAT, THAT, THAT COULD SWAY ME. UM, BUT, UM, AS FORMER MAYOR KEVIN STRENGTH SAID YOU NEVER COME INTO A MEETING WITH YOUR MIND MADE UP. 'CAUSE SOMEBODY COULD SAY ONE LITTLE SOMETHING THAT CHANGES YOUR WHOLE OPINION ON IT. AND IT WAS SAID BRIEFLY, SOMEBODY OVER HERE, THEY BROUGHT UP THE 24 7. AND THAT COMPLETELY CHANGED MY VIEW ON THIS PROJECT. UM, HAVING, HAVING A BUSINESS OPEN 24 7 IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED TO WRITE DOWN THE LIST OF GAS STATIONS THAT DO OPERATE IN OR NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS, THEY CLOSE. THEY AREN'T OPEN 24 7. SO THAT, THAT ONE LITTLE PART CHANGED MY WHOLE, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S IT, THE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THE CHILDREN THAT ARE GONNA BE WALKING ACROSS THE ENTRANCE, THEY'RE GONNA WALK ACROSS THE ENTRANCE TO WHATEVER THAT BUSINESS IS. IT'S ALREADY ZONED. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S FALLING ON DEAF EARS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE LIGHTS, THERE'S GOING TO BE EXTRA TRAFFIC. BUT IF WE, IF WE ARE TO USE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A GUIDE, AS A GUIDING DOCUMENT, NOT A SET OF RULES, IT IS GUIDING US TO NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES. SO I JUST WANT US ALL TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE INFILL, UM, IN THAT COMP PLAN. BUT BACK TO WHAT SHE SAID, THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PART IN THE DISCUSSION AT ALL THESE MEETINGS WHEN THEY DISCUSSED IT WAS, SO YOU WEREN'T GOING TO 77 AND YOU WEREN'T GOING TO THE OTHER, YOU WERE GOING IN YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO TO THE THINGS. I MEAN, HONESTLY, AND I'M, I'M NOT ARGUING YOUR POINT, BUT NOBODY'S GONNA WALK INTO ANYTHING THAT'S [02:30:01] THERE. WE KNOW THEY'RE GONNA GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE 'CAUSE IT'S TEXAS AND EVERYBODY THINKS THEY HAVE TO DRIVE EVERYWHERE THEY GO, NOBODY WALKS. BUT THAT BEING SAID, ANY BUSINESS IS THERE, THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE TO. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT WHEN YOU COME TO THAT. BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PART THAT WAS IN THE COMP PLAN IS, IS IT WAS JUST TRYING TO DRAW, TRYING TO SPREAD IT ALL OUT. AND AS YOU SAID, INFILL FILL IN EMPTY LOTS, , WHICH ISN'T GONNA BE A PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL RETAIL. CAN WE TAKE A RECESS? UH, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS IF WE COULD. ? YES. WE GOOD, PATRICK? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 9 37. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 10. MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK. I'VE, I'VE HELD OFF, GO RIGHT AHEAD. AND I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF, OF HEARING FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES SPEAK AT P AND Z AND ALSO HERE TONIGHT. AND THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ASKED, UH, EARLIER THIS EVENING WAS TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER THE HOAS THAT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A FOLLOW UP MEETING AND, UH, UM, UH, MR. LANDRY. NO, I JUST WANT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING OFF WORK TO COME IN HERE AND CLARIFY THAT. UM, I ALSO HAVE A CIVIC LEADER THAT'S WATCHING US WHO SENT ME A TEXT SAYING, UM, SHE'S IN GARDEN VALLEY. AND THAT THERE WAS LIMITED DISCUSSION THERE. AND THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE YES IS, AS MR. SMITH MENTIONED, DEVELOPERS DO NOT HAVE TO REACH OUT TO HOAS. BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT TONIGHT VERSUS P AND Z, UM, Y'ALL HAD A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS. UM, MR. HAMMOND PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE STUDIES AND Y'ALL GOT UP AND ALL OF IT PERTINENT, OKAY, ALL OF IT WAS PERTINENT. BUT I SEE TONIGHT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WANTS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN. I COULD GIVE A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BENZENE, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVELS ARE. IF, IF I DID WELL, AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY GRADES AND, AND CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS. I WOULD'VE BEEN AN ENGINEER RATHER THAN A LAWYER. UM, BUT I SEE A LOT MORE DIALOGUE TONIGHT THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN INTERACTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE NEIGHBORS IN, IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THOSE HOAS, WE MAY NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. UM, I'M GONNA CORRECT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL BROUGHT UP THAT WERE ABSOLUTE AND P AND Z, THAT THIS HAS TO BE A 24 HOUR STATION. IT WAS ASKED BY A MEMBER ON P AND Z AND IT WAS SAID THAT DON'T, I'M TELLING YOU BECAUSE DON'T GET ME TO GOING AND STARTING TO BRING UP OTHER THINGS WHERE THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE FLIP FLOPPED. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M NOT FOCUSING IN PARTICULARLY ON THAT. BUT I'M FOCUSING IN ON FOLKS THAT, UM, UM, ARE CONCERNED. AND I THINK THAT NOW THAT THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, MAYBE IF WE HAVE THIS, OR MAYBE WE HAVE THAT, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION. BUT I HEARD A MOTHER COME UP HERE TONIGHT AND HER FIRST NAME WAS MIRANDA. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING HER LAST NAME. WHO SAID THAT? THAT THE RESIDENT SHOULD HAVE, UH, UM, SOME ABILITY TO CONTROL WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I SEE Y'ALL DOING HERE IS WANTING TO CONTROL WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THAT, AS I SAID, I THINK THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN OPEN DIALOGUE, AND I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE THINGS NOW ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY AND CAN AND CAN'T DO. WE HAVE TWO HOA PRESIDENTS HERE. I HAVE SOMEBODY TEXTING ME, HAVING SOMEBODY TAKE OFF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT IT'S CLARIFIED, UM, THAT IMPACTS MY DECISION. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT NOT ONLY FOR THIS, BUT FOR ANYBODY THAT COMES IN AND COMES IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BECAUSE, AND I, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE THAT WE CAN RELY UPON THOSE WHO COME AND PRESENT TO US, TO PRESENT TO US THE FACTS. 100%. SO MADAM MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK, UH, AFTER, UH, UH, WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN SUITER JUST SAID. AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE [02:35:01] EVERYBODY COMING HERE TONIGHT. UH, WE, WE HEAR YOU. UM, WE'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SAID. UH, WE'VE READ EVERY, UH, PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT WE COULD. UH, WE HAVE A TOUGH JOB BECAUSE NOT ONLY, UH, DO WE, UH, WANT TO HEAR YOU AND LISTEN TO YOU AND BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WAXAHATCHEE AND THE HEALTH OF WAXAHATCHEE AND RUNNING A CITY AND WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN A CITY AND WHAT BUSINESSES WE'RE GONNA ALLOW TO COME IN AND WHAT BUSINESSES IF WE, AND WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE YET, BUT IF, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF WE DENY EVERYTHING OR APPROVE EVERYTHING, WHENEVER A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE SHOW UP, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF WE APPROVE EVERYTHING OR IF WE DENY EVERYTHING WHEN A CROWD OF PEOPLE COME IN HERE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TASKED WITH A, A PRETTY TOUGH JOB. AND, AND WE ALL DO THIS BECAUSE WE LOVE WAXAHATCHEE. EVERY ONE OF US HA HAVE BEEN HERE. MOST OF US, UH, HAVE WAS WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. WE LOVE WAXAHATCHEE AS MUCH, MAYBE MORE THAN SOME OF YOU DO. UM, BUT WE'LL JUST SAY AS MUCH. SO I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT APPROVING EVERYTHING WHEN EVERYBODY SHOWS UP OR DENYING EVERYTHING WHEN EVERYBODY SHOWS UP. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HEAR YOU, WE HEAR EVERY GROUP THAT COMES IN THIS ROOM, NOT JUST YOU GUYS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT. WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. AND WE'VE HEARD THAT TONIGHT AND EVERY GROUP, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE NEXT WEEK IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN HERE WITH A DIFFERENT CONCERN. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR CONCERN'S GONNA BE THE NEXT THING THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. Y'ALL ARE HERE BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA AFFECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF I LIVED WHERE YOU LIVE, I WOULD BE HERE TOO IF I WASN'T UP HERE. SO WE APPRECIATE, AS COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU TAKING THE TIME OUT, TAKING OFF WORK, WRITING LETTERS, HAVING MEETINGS, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT, WE APPRECIATE THAT. IT HAS NOT FELL ON DEAF EARS REGARDLESS OF HOW THE VOTE TURNS OUT. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T CARE. WE DO. IF WE DIDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING UP HERE DOING THIS. I MEAN, WE COULD BE HOME WITH OUR FAMILIES. NONE OF US ARE GETTING $1 FOR BEING HERE AT, AT THESE MEETINGS. NOT $1. WE LOVE THIS CITY JUST LIKE YOU DO. AND I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE DONE. OKAY? THAT'LL BE IF I MAY, YES. AND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT MAYOR WALLACE HAS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PATRICK'S THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T GROW UP HERE AND LIVE HERE HIS ENTIRE LIFE, BUT HE WAS IN THE AREA, GOT A FARM IN MILFORD. HE'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER IN WE DO, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS, YOU DIDN'T BUY A HOUSE HERE, JUST COME LIVE HERE. YOU, YOU LIKE WHAT'S HERE? AND IT'S DISHEARTENING. I WAS HERE THE OTHER DAY AT PLANNING AND ZONING AND I WAS SITTING OUT THERE WEARING A WAXAHATCHEE HAT, BUT IN MY STREET CLOTHES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ANGRY BECAUSE PLANNING AND ZONING SAID FOUR TO FOUR TO TWO OR WHATEVER THE BOAT WAS THAT IT WAS, OKAY, WELL, THEY WERE DOING THEIR JOB. 'CAUSE THEIR JOB IS TO VOTE SOLELY ON ZONING, NOT TAKING IN ALL THE OPINIONS OF EVERYONE ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT. AND THEY DID THEIR JOB. BUT THE PEOPLE WALKED OUT OF THIS ROOM SAYING THE FIX IS IN. AND THE COUNCIL'S PAID UNDER THE TABLE. AND ONE PERSON GOT OUT THERE AND SAID THAT SHE TALKED TO A CITY COUNCILMAN AT THE CITY CA AT THE FOOTBALL GAME AND TOLD 'EM THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL. WELL, I'M THAT CITY COUNCILMAN THAT WAS AT THAT FOOTBALL GAME, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS SAID. I DID SAY, WHICH I'VE SAID OPENLY A MILLION TIMES TO EVERY ONE OF THESE. AND THEY GET SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY IT, IS THAT WE PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. AND IF EVERYONE LOOKED AT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ONLY AND VOTED BASED ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN [02:40:02] WITH NO OTHER INPUT, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY PASS IS WHAT WAS SAID. NOW, HOW IT WAS INTERPRETED AND TAKEN, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT THE FOOTBALL GAME, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, OTHER THAN ONE OR TWO OF US AT A TIME. AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE ON OR BE ON AN AGENDA UNLESS IT'S AN OPEN MEETING WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SEE. AND WE DON'T, WE GET ACCUSED OF IT A WHOLE LOT, BUT WE DON'T DO IT AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE. AND, AND WHATEVER THE VOTE COMES UP HERE, IT MIGHT NOT BE UNANIMOUS. IT MIGHT BE FOUR THREE, IT MIGHT OR OR FOUR, FOUR TO ONE OR FIVE TO WHATEVER. BUT IT'S BECAUSE EACH ONE'S TAKEN WHATEVER THOUGHTS ON THAT VOTE INTO ACCOUNT. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES THAT WE'VE SAT UP HERE AND HAD A VOTE WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS DEFINITELY GONNA BE A, A TIGHT ONE. AND IT WAS OBVIOUS TO THE ONE COUNCIL PERSON THAT WAS REALLY STRONG THE OTHER WAY, BUT THERE WAS NO WAY IN THE WORLD IT WAS GONNA GO THAT WAY. SO THEY VOTED TO MAKE IT UNANIMOUS BECAUSE WE WANT OUR COUNCIL OVERALL TO BE A COHESIVE GROUP THAT REALLY WORKS AND LISTENS TO YOU GUYS AND TRIES TO DO WHAT WE CAN. BUT AS MAYOR WALLACE SAID, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO BE EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PASSED IN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH MONEY THEY BRING IN. AND I'LL JUST USE FANATICS WHERE JERRY JONES' THING IS. 'CAUSE THAT'S WAY OUT WHERE THERE'S NO REALLY ANY HOUSES THE EXPECTATION AND HOW MUCH PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX THAT CAN BRING IN AND LOWER Y'ALL'S. THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE THAT ARE GONNA BE INCONVENIENCED BECAUSE OF THAT. BECAUSE IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S ONLINE. SO IF YOU, ANY OF YOU WANNA GO READ IT, GO LOOK AT FIVE YEARS IN, 10 YEARS DOWN AT OUR CURRENT SITUATION ON THE MONEY THAT WE BRING IN THROUGH PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX AND WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS OF JUST MAINTAINING THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS TOWN'S HAD SINCE THE 1890S TO FIX IT. AND WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS. AND SOME OF THAT WAS WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF DIVERS DIVERSIFYING WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED. IT CAN'T ALL BE ON 77 AND 2 87. IT CAN'T BE, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE SOMEWHERE. MAYBE NOT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO START GOING. AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SHOWED YOUR TIME TO COME UP HERE. SOME OF YOU CAME THE OTHER DAY AND OUR LAST POINT, AND I'LL LET YOU GO 'CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL WANNA GO TOO. THIS WAS NOT DELAYED AND DELAYED TO DILUTE Y'ALL'S VOTES. WE MOVED IT TO THIS WEEK BECAUSE MAYOR WALLACE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE AT THE LAST ONE. AND WE FELT EVERYONE DESERVED TO HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL VOTE ON WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOUR OPINIONS AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. BUT WHETHER VOTES GO YOUR WAY OR NOT IN THE FUTURE, JUST REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LIVE HERE TOO. AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT THE SCREWS TO ANYONE ELSE JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU MAYOR WALLACE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, WHETHER Y'ALL KNOW IT OR NOT, I'M, I'M THE NEW GUY. UM, BUT, UH, I IT'S AT THIS VERY MOMENT THAT, UM, YOU LEAN ON PAST EXPERIENCE AND, UH, AS A COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN, UH, FOR THE LAST TWO DECADES I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ADVOCATING AND PROTECTING, UH, RED SNAPPER IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. AND, UM, WE, WE CAME UP WITH, UH, A VERY COMMON SENSICAL APPROACH TO, UH, IF WE JUST DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE FISH, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. AND IT, IT DOES FOR THE MOST PART, BUT YOU DON'T EVER GET IT RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME. AND I HAVE, IN MY NEWLY ELECTED POSITION, THIS HAS BEEN PROBABLY THE MOST STRENUOUS, STRESSFUL DECISION, UH, THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED THUS FAR. AND I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND REITERATE, YOU KNOW, THEIR APPRECIATION FOR SHOWING UP FOR SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT EVEN SPECIFICALLY, [02:45:01] AND I'M, I APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE I CAN'T RECALL YOUR NAME, BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY TO BE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MOB, OKAY? AND NOT THAT, NOT THAT ANYBODY HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING BUT PERFECT HERE TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN YOU'RE THE, WHEN YOU'RE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, SO TO SPEAK, AND, UM, CALL IT HUMAN NATURE. UH, I WAS AT CHURCH SUNDAY AND I HAD A, I HAD A GENTLEMAN WALK UP TO ME AFTER SERVICE AND HE LIVES, HE LIVES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, HE, HE'S AN, HE'S AN OLDER GENTLEMAN AND AND HE'S LOOKING, HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A PLACE WHERE HE CAN GO GET A HALF A GALLON OF MILK OR A HALF A DOZEN EGGS, YOU KNOW? UM, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO GET OUT ON 77. SO, AND I, THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S, I I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY ELSE IS GONNA VOTE. I I DON'T EVEN, HONESTLY, YOU COULD FLIP A COIN WITH ME RIGHT NOW, AND I'M JUST BEING AS HONEST AS I CAN BE BECAUSE I GREW UP NEXT TO A CONVENIENCE STORE. I RAISED A FAMILY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF A CONVENIENCE STORE. THE 24 7 THING, GUYS, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I NEVER ENTERED MY MIND UNTIL IT BECAME UP TONIGHT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL, YOU KNOW? UH, SO THANKFUL FOR, FOR WHOEVER, WHOEVER BROUGHT THAT UP. UM, YOU KNOW, I I I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL LIKE WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE SOMETHING OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD? MY CONVENIENCE STORE'S NOT OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY, SO BE CLOSED BEFORE WE LEAVE ANYHOW. UM, I JUST, I WANT EVERYBODY TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALRIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU COUNSEL. UM, [10. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-139-2024] ITEM 10, CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPROVING ZDC 1 39 DASH 2024. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION PLEASE, MADAM MAYOR, WITHOUT, UH, THE DEVELOPERS KNOWING IF THEY CAN OPERATE W NOT BEING 24 HOURS AND GIVING US NO CONFIDENCE IN THAT DIRECTION. UM, I MEAN, YOU KIND OF DIDN'T GIVE US ANY CONFIDENCE IN THAT DIRECTION. UM, I COULD GO ONE OF TWO WAYS WITH A MOTION AND IT WOULD EITHER BE TO CONTINUE TO SEE IF THEY CAN DECIDE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE LESS THAN 24 HOURS OR, UM, DENY AS PRESENTED, I THINK, RIGHT? COULD I SUGGEST, AND, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO EITHER WAY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ONE BASED ON THE 24 HOUR THING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SURE, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DELAY IT, THAT YOU JUST MAKE ONE AND MAKE THE HOURS THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE AND SAY THOSE ARE THE HOURS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'D WANT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE, THEY GOT THE RIGHT TO SAY NO , BUT IF YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND PUT IT OFF, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. YEAH. WHAT YOU DO TO DENY, THAT'S FINE. UM, I THINK PAT MADE A GREAT POINT THAT SOME CONVERSATIONS COULD BE HAD THAT THAT COULD MAYBE EASE, EASE SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HAD. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MEET WITH HOA, BUT I'VE KIND OF MADE IT A POINT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP DELAYING THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND KICKING THE CAN. SO CAN I ASK THE LAWYER A QUESTION REAL QUICK? JUST CURIOSITY. SO, AND, AND ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS AVOID DELAYING THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IF HE WERE TO MAKE THE MOTION AND IT GET DENIED AND WE DON'T DENY WITH PREJUDICE, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO COME BACK AFTER TALKING TO THEIR BOSS? IF THE MOTION IS MADE TO DENY IT WITHOUT PREJUDICE, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN FOR A ZONING, IT'S, IT IS A NEW ZONING CASE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I WANT. THANK YOU. THANKS TRAVIS. [02:50:02] THAT'S DENIED WITH PREJUDICE, RIGHT? WITHOUT PREJUDICE. WITH, WITH, THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO COME BACK OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? RIGHT. WITH P THEY CAN'T COME BACK FOR SIX MONTHS WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THEY CAN COME BACK AT ANY POINT IN TIME AGAIN, BUT START THE PROCESS OVER IN EITHER CASE. SOMEBODY HAVE A, A COMPLETE MOTION. YEAH. MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO DENY ZDC 1 39 20 24. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS, WITH GASOLINE SALES USE. I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. AND A SECOND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED, UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OKAY. UH, MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO. THANK YOU, JUDGE. WORK ON THE HOURS, LET THEM MOVE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. [12. Consider approval of Early Release Bid Package 03 for City Hall Remodel and Construction Project] UH, NEXT ITEM IS 12. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF EARLY RELEASE BID PACKAGE ZERO THREE FOR CITY HALL REMODEL AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. DALE SEGLER, STILL AWAKE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. AS YOU STATE THE NEXT UH, ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE EARLY RELEASE PACKAGE NUMBER THREE FOR THE CITY HALL PROJECT. UH, THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TEAM CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAVE COST AND KEEP THIS THING ON BUDGET AND IN SCHEDULE. UM, THE SCOPE OF THE EARLY RELEASE PACKAGE THREE IS FOR THE, UH, THE PURCHASE, THE FABRICATION, AND THE DIRECT, THE, UH, STRUCTURAL STEEL FOR THE NEW THREE STORY BUILDING GOING UP. UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPOSAL IS TO HELP AGAINST THE INCREASING PRICES FOR THAT MATERIAL LABOR AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO, UH, TO ERECT THAT. UM, THE STEEL STRUCTURE, UM, THE CURRENT PRICE OF THE ERP THREE IS IN LINE WITH, UM, THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO JUST LIKE ERP ONE AND TWO, THIS ONE IS JUST TO LOCK IN THE PRICES NOW FOR THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR THAT BUILDING DOWN THE ROAD. SO, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERP THREE? COUNSEL, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS? THE PRICE THAT WE HAVE FOR SET? YEAH. IS ON THE MEMO THERE IN THE, DID I MISS 15 MILLION? 800. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE IF, PARDON ME? UH, HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. BILL. YEAH, JUST A MINUTE THERE. YOU'RE ALLOWED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, TO THIS ITEM? 12? NO. OKAY. YOU TALKING TO US OR, YEAH. . WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST A MOTION. YEAH, IT'S JUST A MOTION. JUST CONSIDER MOTION. YEAH. I, I NEED A MOTION. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE FOR EARLY RELEASE BID PACKAGE, UH, THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $892,316 WITH TURNER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE CITY HALL REMODEL AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS AS NECESSARY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU COUNSEL. [13. Convene into Executive Session for consultation with City Attorney regarding pending or contemplated litigation as permitted under Section 551.071, Texas Government Code] ALRIGHT, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AS PERMITTED UNDER SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, UH, OR, UH, HAVE A GOOD EVENING. [02:55:01] ALRIGHT, [14. Reconvene and take any necessary action] WE ARE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 10 12. DID I SAY 10? YEAH, 10, 12. WE'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE, HAVEN'T WE? ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A, A MOTION MAD MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND GENERAL RELEASE BETWEEN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE OF WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS, AND AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE AMBULANCE SERVICE INC. AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, EXECUTE SANE. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. AND THE [15. Comments by Mayor, City Council, City Attorney and City Manager ] LAST THING IS COMMENTS BY MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER WILL START ON MY RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU, ARE YOU SURE? I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING. ALL NIGHT. , ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS. COUNCILMAN SUITOR. JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE AND CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING. UM, ALL THE DECORATIONS DOWNTOWN. LOOK GREAT. WANNA THANK, UH, CITY STAFF FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET ALL THAT UP. AND LET'S SEE EVERYBODY OUT THERE CHEERING ON SANDY CLAUSE. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TIM WRIGHT. WELL CONGRATULATE DANIEL CHRISTIE FOR HIS CERTIFICATION ON THE BACKFLOW STUFF FOR THE CITY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UH, I WANT TO THANK MIKE LANGFORD FOR THE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE ABOUT THE WORLD BASEBALL CLASSIC. THAT WAS A REALLY COOL THING AND GREAT FOR THE CITY AND NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE IT, AND, UH, I WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT, THANK THANKS ISN'T THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT, BUT CONDOLENCES TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE LOST A FIREMAN THIS LAST COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND OFFICER LINDSAY OR FIREMAN, KEVIN LINDSAY THAT HAD HIS FUNERAL HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER AND YOU GUYS DID A FANTASTIC JOB, BUT YOU WERE CORRECT. Y'ALL, THE ONE THING Y'ALL DO TERRIFICALLY IS A FUNERAL. Y'ALL, Y'ALL JUST DID IT, BUT IT'S TERRIBLE TO LOSE IN, IN, IN OUR CONDOLENCES TO YOU AND THE, AND THE GUYS. THANK YOU, UH, TO MY LEFT. UH, ALBERT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. COUNCILMAN SMITH. UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO CAME TO SPEAK AND HAVE NOW ALL LEFT. UM, BUT THE ENGAGEMENT, UM, IS HUGE. UM, I TELL FOLKS AS OFTEN AS I CAN THAT THEIR VOICE REALLY DOES CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT WHEN THEY SHOW UP. UM, I KNOW THAT'S ASKING A LOT OF FOLKS AT TIMES. UM, I'M, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY TO DO. IT'S NOT EASY TO GET UP AND SPEAK. UM, BUT THAT DOES CARRY A WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT. UM, AND APPLAUD COUNSEL FOR, UM, IN YEARS PAST THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND IN A HURRY. UH, SO THANK YOU TO MAYOR WALLACE FOR RUNNING A GREAT MEETING THAT COULD HAVE, COULD HAVE GONE AWRY IN A HURRY. UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE LINDSEY FAMILY, UM, ALSO I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, WE SEND SOME, SOME PRAYERS AND SOME WELL WISHES TO THOSE, UM, IN THE SULLIVAN FAMILY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. JOHN ROGERS, UH, SENT ME A MESSAGE, UH, AFTER THE FUNERAL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT WAS, IT WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL, UH, CEREMONY, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH ONE TO SWALLOW. UM, AND SAME THING, COUNCILMAN SMITH. UH, THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE LOST A, A REALLY GOOD MAN IN, UH, PATRICK SULLIVAN. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE HURTING RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, I PRAY FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. UH, NOTHING TONIGHT. I'LL JUST SEE Y'ALL TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE, THE TREE LIGHTING SIX O'CLOCK. YEAH. UM, MOST OF WHAT I HAD TO SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. I JUST WANTED TO, UH, JUST REITERATE, UM, DANIEL CHRISTIE AND HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, BEEN PRAYING, UH, AND THINKING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S VERY PROUD OF, UH, THE GOING AWAY, UM, THAT WAS GIVEN, UH, TO, UH, TO FIREMEN, KEVIN LINDSEY, UM, AND FAMILY. [03:00:01] AND, UM, CHIEF, I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT, UM, YOU DON'T GO THROUGH THIS ALONE AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL WITH YOU. AND, UM, IT, IT'S TOUGH. WE'VE LOST SOME, SOME GOOD, UM, MEN, UM, AND, AND WOMEN TOO, I'M SURE, UH, HERE RECENTLY. AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND, UH, ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, UH, WE WE'RE WITH YOU. AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL, UH, CONVENE, UH, AND END THE MEETING AT 10 18. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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