Dec 15, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

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ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER

[ 1. Call to Order]

I AM MAYOR BILLY WALLACE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

IF YOU WOULD, UH, PLEASE STAND FOR THE END VOCATION.

GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU AT THIS TIME TO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS.

LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IN OUR LIVES THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND THAT, THAT WE DON'T LORD BE WITH, UH, EACH CITY LEADER AS WE CONDUCT BUSINESS AND MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS FOR WAXAHATCHEE.

LORD, I JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT HAVE A HEART FOR SERVICE, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND LORD, JUST BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE AS WE NEAR THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

I PRAY THAT THEY FEEL YOUR PRESENCE AND I ASK THAT YOU JUST BLESS THEM.

LORD, I PRAY ALL THIS IN YOUR HOLY SON'S NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE.

ONE.

INDIVISIBLE.

INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM

[ 4. Announcements/Presentations]

UH, WE DO NOT HAVE AN HONORARY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE TONIGHT.

SO THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B TO RECOGNIZE PAUL BOX FOR COMPLETING AND WINNING THE SEVEN CONTINENT, GREAT WORLD RACE.

OKAY, PAUL, WHO DO YOU HAVE WITH US TONIGHT? I HAVE MY WIFE, NATALIE, MY DAUGHTERS KINLEY AND ANNIE AND MY MOM DIETRA.

VERY GOOD.

I'M GLAD Y'ALL ARE HERE TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

IT'S OUR, OUR PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION.

ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE AND CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE PROUDLY RECOGNIZES PAUL BOX FOR HIS EXTRAORDINARY ACHIEVEMENT OF COMPLETING SEVEN MARATHONS ON SEVEN CONTINENTS IN SEVEN DAYS, SECURING FIRST PLACE IN THE PRESTIGIOUS GREAT WORLD RACE.

FROM NOVEMBER 15TH THROUGH THE 21ST 2025, PAUL RACED ACROSS SOUTH AFRICA, ANTARCTICA, AUSTRALIA, AND THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, PORTUGAL, COLUMBIA, AND THE UNITED STATES DEMONSTRATING UNPARALLELED ENDURANCE, COURAGE AND DEDICATION.

HIS REMARKABLE JOURNEY MARKED BY AN AVERAGE MARATHON, TIME OF THREE HOURS, 26 MINUTES AND 29 SECONDS, AND A TOTAL WINNING TIME OF 24 HOURS, FIVE MINUTES, AND 23 SECONDS EXEMPLIFIES EXCELLENCE, RESILIENCE, AND GLOBAL FELLOWSHIP, INSPIRING HIS COMMUNITY AND FAMILY THROUGH A PURSUIT OF ADVENTURE AND ACHIEVEMENT THAT SPANS THE WORLD.

HIS EXTRAORDINARY PERFORMANCE, COMPETITIVE SPIRIT, AND REPRESENTATION OF OUR CITY.

WAXAHATCHEE REFLECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE.

THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE PROUDLY CELEBRATES PAUL'S ACHIEVEMENT AND EXTENDS ITS HEARTFELT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

SO PROUD YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

CONGRATULATIONS.

IF YOU WOULD MEET US FOR A PHOTO UP THERE.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ISSUING YOU A CITY A, UH, KEY TO THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE.

ALRIGHT.

SHOW

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IT WASN'T SUCH A THING.

OH, THERE IS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FIVE.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, COUNCILMAN ATKINS IS OUT, UH, WITH A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

AND COUNCILMAN SMITH IS OUT WITH A, UH, A, UH, MEDICAL, UH, SITUATION.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT WITH US TONIGHT.

UH, SO, UH, I PRAY THAT, UH, WHATEVER, UH, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THOSE SITUATIONS THAT, UH, THEY GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, OF THOSE PERSONS MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUES.

THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY CONCERN WHETHER ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE COUNCIL MAY NOT COMMENT OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS DURING THIS PERIOD, EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 5 1 0 4 2 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, ITEM.

I NEED TO, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP REAL QUICK? WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON THAT.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

GOOD? YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT BRINGS US TO

[ 6. Consent Agenda]

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM SIX CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.

ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS INCLUDES ITEMS A THROUGH A COUNCIL DO L OH, IS THAT L SORRY.

YEAH.

L SORRY ABOUT THAT.

A THROUGH L.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN,

[7. Public Hearing on a request by David Berryman, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Structure 700+ within a Single-Family 2 zoning district located at 303 Kirven Ave (Property ID 311319) - Owners: David Berryman and Barbara Schneider (ZDC-150 2025)]

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THIS IS ZDC 1 50 20 25 TRENTON.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET, LOCATED AT 33 0 3 CURVIN AVENUE.

UH, THE PROPOSED REQUEST, AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, IS LOCATED IN THE SF TWO ZONING DISTRICT.

UH, ALL PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE ALSO SIMILARLY, SIMILARLY ZONED.

UH, THIS IS ALSO WITHIN OUR INFILL OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, PART OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, COMING, KINDA GIVING YOU A BRIEF HISTORY OF, UH, WHERE, HOW WE GOT HERE IS THAT A PERMIT WAS PULLED BY THE, UH, APPLICANT WHEN THE APPLICANT, UH, WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF START CONSTRUCTION.

UM, WENT OUT THERE AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY NEEDED A SUP FOR THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

UM, IMMEDIATELY HE STOPPED WORK.

THEY STOPPED WORK, THEY CAME IN, APPLIED FOR THE SUP, AND NOW THEY'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR APPROVAL.

AND REVIEWING THIS.

AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, REVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, THAT THE EXISTS THAT THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS LOCATED ON.

THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT THIS IS LOCATED ON, GENERALLY IN AS, UH, WE DON'T ALLOW FOR STRUCTURES TO BE LOCATED ON TOP OF EASEMENTS.

HOWEVER, AFTER AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, WE DETERMINE THAT THERE'S NO CITY UTILITIES OR ANYTHING UTILIZING THAT EASEMENT.

AS PART OF THE CONDITION OF THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, THIS CONDITION WILL REQUIRE THEM TO REPL TO REMOVE THAT EASEMENT FROM, UH, THE DOCK, UH, FROM THE PLAT.

UH, BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER, IT IS NOT IN USE.

UH, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, HOWEVER, DID RECOMMEND DENIAL WITH THE FIVE TWO VOTE.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

KEVIN TIDWELL, 4 0 6 COMMERCE STREET MAP, PEARL, TEXAS.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM WAXAHATCHEE, GREW UP HERE.

UH, ACTUALLY WENT TO CHURCH WITH PAUL GROWING UP AT FIRST BAPTIST, AS I DID WITH DEAN MEYER.

UH, I'M FOUR, OBVIOUSLY FOUR.

THE STRUCTURE GETTING APPROVED, UH, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER STRUCTURES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S A METAL BUILDING IN THE BACKYARD.

THIS IS, THIS BUILDING'S GONNA BE WOOD STRUCTURE BUILT AS IT WAS BUILT AS THE HOUSE WILL BUILT IN 1930.

SAME SIDING, SAME TRIM, SAME, YOU KNOW, RAFTER TAILS, ALL THE THINGS, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF THAT AREA.

UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, I'VE REDID THE OLD CATFISH PLANTATION.

I REDID HOUSES ON THE, EACH UNIVERSITY THAT WE'RE ALSO IN DISREPAIR.

WE GOT THEM UP TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THOSE HISTORICAL STANDARD THAT, THAT WE'RE SO USED TO.

BUT THAT'S, I JUST WOULD APPRECIATE IT APPROVAL.

OKAY.

AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL.

COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNSEL, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR STAFF OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY.

I, I JUST HAVE ONE STATEMENT AND I'M, I MADE IT AT THE P AND Z 'CAUSE I HAPPEN TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE.

THIS, THIS IS THE INFILL AREA WHERE WE ALLOW SOME THINGS THAT NOWADAYS SETBACKS AND ALL THAT ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

MM-HMM .

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I WENT BY THE PROPERTY AND LOOKED, 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND IT, IT DOESN'T STICK OUT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING, LIKE I SAID, WHEN, LIKE HE SAID, WHEN I WENT IN THE BACKYARD, LOOKED NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S, GOT THIS HUGE METAL BUILDING, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE IT'S NOT, NOT PERMITTED OR ANYTHING IN THE AREA.

BUT THIS DOESN'T STICK OUT.

IT FITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZDC 1 5 0 20 25 SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER UNDER

[8. Consider proposed Ordinance approving ZDC-150-2025]

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

WE'LL MOVE PAST NINE

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UM, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 10, A PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR REQUEST BY DENTIST CHURCH MENTAL COMMUNITIES, TEXAS, LLC FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MIXED USE, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY SF ONE, FUTURE

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LOCATED AT 300 BROOKSIDE ROAD OWNERS, WALTON, TEXAS, LP, UNITED PRESBYTERIAN HOMES.

WILLIAM AND LEANNE, KELLY, TRENTON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, BEFORE I GET INTO MY PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, WE WERE, IT WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THEY CONTINUE THIS CASE.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE MICROPHONE TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THIS CONTINUANCE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RICHARD ROZIER.

UH, ADDRESS IS, UH, 2 0 8 KATY LAKE DRIVE HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.

UH, ON BEHALF OF, UH, MENTO, UH, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, WITH THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING OUT.

UH, WE, QUITE HONESTLY, WE, WE'VE BEEN THE ONES, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DEADLINES TRYING TO MEET ON COUNT ON PROPERTY CLOSING, AND EVERYBODY HAS WORKED VERY, VERY HARD STAFF AND, AND THE APPLICANT.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF TOWN QUITE A BIT, TRYING TO VISIT WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO VISIT AND WORK ON WHAT NEEDED TO BE WORKED ON.

UH, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT POSITIVE THAT WE CAN GET EXTENSIONS ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE FEEL LIKE TRYING TO FORCE IT THROUGH TONIGHT WOULD BE A MISTAKE AND IT WOULD GIVE US BETTER OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE DO HAVE SOME, SOME NEW THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO VISIT WITH STAFF ABOUT IT AT THEIR, UH, AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS.

SO WE WOULD ASK IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DO IT, TO EXTEND IT TO THE 20TH.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE THE NEXT, THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, UH, 'CAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.

BUT, UH, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

GO AHEAD, KATHY.

WELL, MY NAME IS KATHY CASE LAW.

I'M AT 4 0 5 BROOKSIDE ROAD HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.

AND I, THIS HAS GONE ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

IT'S BEEN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND WE FOUGHT 'EM TOOTH AND TOENAIL, YOU KNOW, SET 'EM BACK DIFFERENT TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I JUST SEE THAT, THAT EVERY LITTLE THING IS JUST NITPICKED US TO DEATH AND STUFF.

AND WE HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND ARE GOING AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I JUST ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IN THIS TIME, IF Y'ALL GRANT THIS TO TAKE THE TIME TO GO TO BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU AND READ THE COMPLAINTS THAT ARE ON THIS COMPANY.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, DON'T GET ME WRONG, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE GOOD, BUT THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE NOT RESOLVED THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT GOING WITH THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S THINGS TOO THAT, UM, I JUST THINK THAT IT ALSO GO AND LOOK, READ ABOUT CITY, OTHER TEXAS CITIES THAT HAD NOW HAVE BIG DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE JUST LEFT STUFF STANDING THERE JUST TOTALLY UNDONE.

AND I'VE, I SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT'S TAKEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER WITH Y'ALL CONSTANTLY REQUESTING MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE.

AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE COPIES THAT I FOUND FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

BUT I JUST SEE THAT AS BEING JUST ON AND ON AND ON.

MORE OF A HASSLE, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT MORE OF A HEARTBEAT FOR, FOR WAXAHATCHEE.

IT'S BEEN TOUGH ON US, THOSE OF US, ESPECIALLY ON BROOKSIDE ROAD THAT HAVE HAD TO FIGHT THIS TOOTH AND TOENAIL BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY SURROUNDING US.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE WITH THAT.

BUT THAT WAS JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY AND I WANTED TO THANK Y'ALL AND WISH EVERYBODY MERRY CHRISTMAS, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING ANOTHER, AND I TELL YOU, I JUST, I ADMIRE Y'ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LIKE ME, THE MOUTH, YOU KNOW, THAT , THAT THAT, UH, COMES AND STANDS UP AND Y'ALL LISTEN TO AND APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE.

AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

I'M DEAN SOTOMEYER.

I'M 6 0 5 BROOKSIDE ROAD.

I HAD THIS BIG SPEECH FOR TONIGHT AND READY TO GO FULL BLAST.

AND THEN WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER CONTINUANCE, WHICH MAYOR SUITER'S KIND OF DRESSED HIM DOWN ON THAT ALREADY ONCE ABOUT THAT.

BUT, SO, UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

I WAS OUTTA THE COUNTRY ON THE PNZ MEETING THIS LAST WEEK.

SO, BUT I DID LISTEN TO THE VIDEO OR WATCH THE VIDEO, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SAY WHAT I'VE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING.

I HAVE REALLY NO BIG QUALMS WITH THEM DOING

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'CAUSE THE REALITY IS SOMEBODY'S GONNA BUILD OUT THERE AT SOME POINT, SOMEHOW SOME WAY IT'S, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

THAT'S JUST TOO PRIME OF PROPERTY FOR SOMEBODY TO LET GO.

UM, SO I CAME UP HERE TONIGHT THINKING I WAS GONNA ASK THE GUYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE DROP DEAD DATE THAT THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT? IS THAT A DROP DEAD DATE FOR Y'ALL? OR IS THAT A DROP DEAD DATE FOR THEM? IS THAT A DROP DEAD DATE FOR THEIR INVESTORS? I DON'T KNOW.

SO, UM, SO I'M KIND OF HAVING TO RE SITUATE MY, MY COMMENTS TONIGHT.

NOT KNOWING THAT THAT DROP THAT DATA SOMEWHAT MAY HAVE JUST KIND OF GOT EXTENDED SOMEHOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING.

UM, THE THING THAT I WANTED TO, TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, AND THIS ME SPECIFICALLY LIVING ON BROOKSIDE ROAD, UM, AND I'VE MET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND I, I THINK THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PLAN FOR WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.

UM, I'D RATHER SEE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO VERSUS WHAT THE WALTON GROUP WAS GONNA DO PRIOR.

AND, AND I, AND I'LL ADDRESS SOME OF MY FELLOW RESIDENTS ON BROOKSIDE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY REALIZE THIS OR NOT, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY A, A, AND I MAY BE NAIVE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY A DOZEN DEVELOPERS IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE THE RESOURCES, THE KNOWHOW TO, TO PULL OFF A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE ENDEAVOR.

SO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AND YOU THINK, OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT ONE PROJECT, ONE GROUP MENTOR HERE TO DO THIS.

AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT OUT THE MONEY AND THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.

AND, AND I, AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE PROBABLY, UM, GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO TRY TO MEET SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL AND PNZ.

UM, BUT THE LAST TIME THEY TALKED ABOUT THERE WERE LIKE 70 ITEMS THAT Y'ALL HAVEN'T QUITE AGREED ON.

AND I THOUGHT, MAN, THAT'S A LOT.

BUT THEN YOU THINK, HELL, THEY CAN'T EVEN BUILD A SEVEN 11 IN TOWN WITHOUT HAVING A HALF A DOZEN ITEMS. SO I MEAN, SIX FOR A SEVEN 11 AND 74, 3000 ACRE, 13,000 HOME DEVELOPMENT, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT MUCH AFTER ALL.

SO, UM, IF, IF, IF IT GOES THROUGH, I'M HOPING NOW THAT WE CAN GET THIS EXTENSION FOR THEM, I, I KNOW MAYOR SEWER'S PROBABLY NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT THIS, BUT AS A, AS A RESIDENT, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF, IF MINTO DOESN'T PULL THROUGH WITH THIS? WELL, WE COULD GO BACK TO THE WALTON GROUP WHO MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT MINTO AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO IN THERE AND TRY TO BUY THE PRESBYTERIAN HOME.

THEY'RE JUST GONNA TRY TO DEVELOP ALL THAT LAND BEHIND US.

WHICH IF YOU, IF YOU REMEMBER KATHY, IF THEY DO THAT, THAT THAT WHOLE PROPERTY BEHIND BROOKSIDE IS GONNA BE THE AUTO BOND, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE THE ENTRANCE TO EVERYTHING BACK THERE.

IT'S GONNA BE BEHIND OUR HOUSE INSTEAD OF CHANNELED ON THE BROOKSIDE THROUGH THE PRESBYTERIAN HOME AREA THROUGH ALL THAT.

SO TO ME, THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS THAN GOING BACK TO THE WALTON GROUP OF WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED, HAVING IT GO ALL THE WAY AND BEHIND US.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I'M KIND OF IN, MAYBE IF WE CAN GET OFF OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND GET ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY, MAYBE THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

AND NO, THEY HAVEN'T PAID ME TO SAY THIS.

I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF MY PROPERTY'S GONNA GO UP OR IF IT'S GONNA GO DOWN.

IF THIS IS ALL DONE, WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WON'T EVEN BE AROUND WHEN IT FINALLY GETS DONE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

BUT, UM, I'M JUST, I, I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF GIVE THEM A LITTLE GRACE.

I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT AND AT THE SAME TIME, SINCE THEY'RE ALL HERE, MOST OF THE GUYS FROM MENTO HERE, I'M GONNA GIVE Y'ALL SOME ADVICE AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND AS A PERSON THAT, THAT COULD SIT BACK AND SAY, WHAT COULD Y'ALL HAVE DONE DIFFERENT? WELL, HERE'S WHAT YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE DONE, DEAN, AM I GETTING OVERLAY? I NEED YOU TO TALK TO US.

OKAY? WHAT I WOULD TELL THEM IS THAT, HEY GUYS, SORRY, I LIKE TO TALK TO, UH, I WOULD SAY, HEY GUYS, CHARTER A PLANE, GRAB TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GRAB A COUPLE P AND Z PEOPLE, GRAB A CITY PARK, PUT IT ON A CHARTER PLANE, TAKE IT TO ONE OF YOUR PROJECTS AND LET Y'ALL SEE WHAT THEY DO.

THAT WAY YOU CAN COME BACK AND REPORT TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DO HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT OR THEY HAVE A HORRIBLE PRODUCT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE OTHER THAN WHAT WE SEE ON PICTURES, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, WHICH TO THEM THAT'S PROBABLY POCKET CHANGE AND JUST SENT YOU GUYS OUT THERE TO, TO, TO LOOK

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AND THAT WAY WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, THEY REALLY DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PRODUCT.

OR, OKAY, WE LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT THIS IS NEVER GONNA FLY.

YOU KNOW, OR THIS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.

SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS CHANGE UP WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT AND, AND POSTPONING IT.

AGAIN, KIND KIND OF THROUGH MY WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS IN THE, UH, TURMOIL, BUT I'M HOPING YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO, TRYING TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

SO IF, IF, IF IT SO TO BE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYBE ALLOW THEM ONE MORE ONE MORE, YOU KNOW, EXTENSION TO SAY, HEY GUYS, YOU GOT ONE MORE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.

UH, MENTAL, Y'ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND GET IT RIGHT.

SHOW THESE PEOPLE WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND, UH, IF NOT, WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND WE HAVEN'T MOVED ANYWHERE.

BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMEBODY'S GONNA DO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS A CITY, CITY COUNCIL TO MAYBE HAVE A LOT OF SAY IN THE INITIAL ONES TO MAKE IT RIGHT AND, AND PLEASURABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

THIS, THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO, AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO, I THINK, INCORPORATE THAT SIAN HOME IN THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA, ONCE YOU BUILD THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OUT AND PUT BUSINESSES IN THERE, THEN SOUTH 35 IS GOING TO JUST START BOOMING, WHICH IS QUITE HONESTLY, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED IT.

WE NEED IT OFFICE 77.

WE NEED IT TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, IN MY OPINION.

BUT ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS RICK, ON YOUR THING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? COME ON UP.

CAN I JUST QUICKLY RESPOND TO ONE THING DEAN ASKED ABOUT THE A TIME LIMIT DEAL? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK WE HAD THIS IN OUR BACK POCKET.

NOW WE'RE JUST OUT HERE TO THROW IT OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER OUR MEETING LAST MONDAY.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT QUITE VERY SUCCESSFUL STAFF OR MENTO GUYS.

WENT AND CONTACTED THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND ASKED, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GET SOME TIME, EXTRA TIME THO THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WE GOT A POSITIVE RESPONSE.

BUT WE HAVE NOT SIGNED ANY AGREEMENT.

SO IT'S STILL UN UNCLEAR, BUT WE'D RATHER TAKE OUR RISK OF GETTING THOSE AGREEMENTS ASSIGNED THAN, UH, THAN GOING FORWARD TONIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT HASN'T SPOKE ON THIS ITEM THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? COME ON UP.

I'VE SPOKEN NOT TODAY THOUGH.

I CAN.

UH, MY NAME IS HEATHER FAGAN.

I LIVE ON THE 7,000 BLOCK OF, UH, L ELM.

I'VE ATTENDED, UM, MANY OF THE, I'VE I'VE ALREADY BEEN TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I'VE BEEN TO THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ZACH.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MINTO, I'VE MET WITH THEM.

UH, THEY ARE EXTREMELY, EVERYBODY'S BEEN GREAT.

EVERYBODY'S BEEN REALLY RESPONSIVE.

UM, CITY COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS, EVERYBODY'S GREAT.

I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, WITH A LOT OF THINGS.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE REQUESTS THAT I'VE MADE, UH, OF MINTO, THEY HAVE ACTED ON THEM AND NOT JUST TO PLACATE ME AND SHUT ME UP AND SAY, SURE, SURE, SURE.

UM, LITERALLY THEY'VE COME BACK TO ME WITH IT IN WRITING.

I'VE CONTACTED ZACH, IT'S BEEN SENT TO THEM.

ZACH SAYS, OH YEAH, THAT'S BEEN ENTERED.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST LIP SERVICE WHEN I'M REQUESTING THINGS, TELLING THEM THAT THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR MY PREEXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE, UH, THEY SEEM TO BE REALLY RECEPTIVE AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE LITTLE CONCERNS, UH, JUST ABOUT LIKE THE, THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT.

I'M WAY OUT ON THE WESTERN PART OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, NOWHERE NEAR 35, NOWHERE NEAR.

BUT I, I KEEP SEEING, UH, A PUSH AND I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO KEEP, NOT EVERYTHING GOING TO 77, BUT PUTTING IT WAY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, OFF A LOW ELM UH, COMMERCIAL OUT THERE THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE PREEXISTING.

UM, IT'S NOT 77, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE JUST PUTTING IT IN ANOTHER SPOT.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT, UM, ZACH AND MINTO CAN KIND OF KEEP THAT OFF THE TABLE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR RESIDE, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL OUT THERE.

UM, BUT THEY HAVE REALLY SAT DOWN.

I UNDERSTAND KATHY'S CONCERNS.

I AGREE WITH HER ON STUFF REGARDING THE WATER AND DRAINAGE FOR SUCH DENSITY.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT IF THEY ADDRESS IT IN THE WAY, UH, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN SIT AND WORK WITH HER AND ADDRESS HER CONCERNS THE SAME WAY.

THEY LITERALLY WENT LINE BY LINE WITH ME WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS, IT WAS COMPLETELY AMBIGUOUS.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL.

AND THEY WENT LINE BY LINE WITH ME, UM, AND EXPLAINED

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SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

UM, MY CONCERN, I I, I THINK THEY ARE A GOOD COMPANY.

UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DON'T GO FORWARD WITH THEM, WE MIGHT GET SOMEBODY ELSE WHO IS THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA BE RUSHED RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE POTENTIAL FOR REVENUE, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE SHARKS WILL COME AND IT, IT, IT WILL BE PIECEMEALED AND IT WON'T BE THE RIGHT KIND OF PROJECT.

UM, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE, UM, I'M A CALIFORNIA ESCAPEE.

I DO NOT WANT TEXAS OR WAXAHATCHEE SPECIFICALLY TO TURN INTO ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO CALIFORNIA.

UM, I'VE SEEN SOME PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK AND SOME OF THE, THEIR LANGUAGE IS VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, CALIFORNIA ISH, 15 MINUTE CITY-ISH THINGS WHERE, UM, LIKE WE NEED WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE EVERYBODY CAN WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE, WHERE ROAD DIETS THAT, UM, PUT PRECEDENT FOR BICYCLES, OVER VEHICLES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF PROJECT PROGRESS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, I CAME FROM A LITTLE CHICKEN TOWN OUT THERE THAT I WATCHED GO FROM, YOU KNOW, 40, 50,000 PEOPLE TO 80,000 PEOPLE OVERNIGHT.

AND THESE THINGS WEREN'T ADDRESSED.

EVERYONE WAS, WAS SAYING, OH, WHAT A GREAT IDEA.

IT WAS NOT A GREAT IDEA.

I CAN TELL YOU I SAW IT IN THE LIFETIME.

IT WAS NOT A GREAT IDEA.

SO, UM, AND I'M OPEN TO LIKE, MEET WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HEAR HOW THOSE IDEAS DID NOT PAN OUT THE WAY THAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD.

AND THOSE DEVELOPERS WERE LONG GONE AND WE WERE LEFT WITH EMPTY COMMERCIAL, UH, TERRIBLE TRAFFIC UNITS THAT SAT EMPTY AND VACANT, HALF FINISHED.

SO I, I AM, UM, I, I DO LIKE THE COMMUNICATION THAT MINTO HAS WITH ME.

I'M REALLY COUNTING ON DENNIS AND DUTCH, NOT JUST DESERTING ME.

UH, ONCE EVERYTHING KIND OF GETS APPROVED.

UH, BUT I AM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT STOPPING WHAT'S COMING DOWN HERE.

IT'S, PEOPLE ARE GONNA REALIZE HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO DALLAS AND FORT WORTH.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S COMING AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STOP.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS COMPANY IS, UH, WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY.

UM, AND I DO, I DO.

I HOPE THAT THEY ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED HERE MUCH LONGER THAN I HAVE.

UM, AND I RESPECT THAT.

SO I JUST WANT, AND I KNOW MY TIME'S UP, BUT I, I REALLY AM THINKING THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH US AND THAT THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY AT THIS POINT.

I'M HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE SO FAR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? I MISSED THE FIRST PART.

IT'S, IT'S STILL OPEN.

STILL OPEN.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

IF NOT, I'M GONNA CLOSE IT.

OKAY.

TERRY NAY.

I LIVE AT SEVEN 11 BROOKSIDE ROAD HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.

UM, AND AM OPPOSED CURRENTLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE DENSITY AND A LOT OF THE MONOTONY THAT'S IN IT.

UM, HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, HAVE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH THE MINTOS GROUP, THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME PENDING FEDERAL LITIGATION WITH THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MENTOS NECESSARILY, BUT WILL AFFECT THEM IF IT DOESN'T GET RESOLVED, OBVIOUSLY.

SO, UM, WE STILL HAVE THAT CONTINUING.

BUT, UM, PRIMARILY AT THIS POINT THEY, THEY HAVE WORKED TO RESOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES, UM, THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT UP.

BUT, UH, I THINK THERE'S STILL A PRETTY LONG LIST WITH THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT ANYWAY, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND ADDRESSED.

BUT, UM, JUST VOICING OUR OPPOSITION PRIMARILY RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE DENSITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SEE ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT, A CLO OH, SORRY.

SORRY.

HI, MY NAME IS GENEVA ALCALA.

I'M AT FOUR 11 BROOKSIDE ROAD HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.

UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL TO REALLY CONSIDER THIS LARGE, LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE.

I MEAN, IF A SEVEN 11 TOOK A YEAR, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, THIS SHOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA AFFECT A LOT OF AREAS OF OUR CITY, NOT JUST OUR LITTLE BROOKSIDE ROAD, BUT IT'S GONNA AFFECT ALL THE TRAFFIC, THE ROADS, THE HOSPITALS.

UM, I WAS IN LINE AT A BANK ATM THE OTHER DAY.

MONEY WAS RUN OUT.

THERE WAS NO CASH DISPENSABLE, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT GET AFFECTED, ESPECIALLY WITH SOMETHING THIS LARGE.

UM, MY OPPOSITION, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, THE WAY WE GET OUT OF OUR ROAD AND HAVE TO GO INTO THERE, UH, FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC.

I STILL HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL, SO I, WE GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING.

THERE'S NOT A LOT ON BROOKSIDE THAT DO, BUT I WILL BE AFFECTED BY ALL THAT TRAFFIC COMING IN, THEM TAKING OFF TO WORK.

SO, UM, THEY'VE NOT WORKED.

THEY'VE

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THEY SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WITH ME AND KATHY AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

AND THEN WHEN WE, THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE OPPOSING THAT KIND OF SHUT OFF THE MEETING, SAID HE HAD ANOTHER MEETING TO ATTEND AND LEFT US JUST THERE.

SO, SADLY, OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE MENTOR GROUP HAS NOT BEEN A VERY GOOD ONE.

BUT ALSO I WORK AT, AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND AS Y'ALL ALL KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, UH, FIN UH, FINA, UH, FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT ABLE TO JUST GO AND OPEN UP ALL THESE NEW SCHOOLS.

UM, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE BEING, UH, SET BY THE, UM, SCHOOL COUNCIL OR THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.

AND AN AGREEMENT HAS COME, THEY SAID FOR LESS ACREAGE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE 55 AND UP AREA.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES GRANDPARENTS ARE RAISING THEIR GRANDKIDS.

SO HOW DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND HAVING TO HOUSE THOSE KIDS TOO AS WELL.

AND, UH, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, FROM THE LAST I UNDERSTOOD, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING TO CAPACITY IN A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS.

UH, I KNOW THE HIGH SCHOOL IS GETTING BUILT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION, I GUESS THEY'RE NOT OPENING IT FULL FLEDGE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE PHASED OPENED, UM, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HOUSE SOME OF THESE KIDS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ALREADY HAVING THE ISSUES WITH THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PLACE THEM CORRECTLY AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

UM, MUCH LESS BRINGING IN THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT INTO OUR DISTRICT.

AND THEN MY OTHER CONCERN IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DEVELOPING THIS AREA, I JUST FEEL THAT IN THE FUTURE, OR EVEN BEFORE TOO LONG, THEY COULD TRY TO ANNEX IT AND MAKE IT INTO THEIR OWN LITTLE CITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD NOT LIKE FOR US AS CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS? SEEING NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DELAYING IT TO JANUARY.

MY PERSONAL OPINION ON IT IS IF WE DO DO THAT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE EXTENDED TIME FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE SELLING IT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE AS COUNSEL AND STAFF, WE HAVE JUST US, IT'D BE, I KNOW IT HAS TO BE AN OPEN MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COME TO WHERE WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE MANY DIFFERENT COPIES.

I'VE GOT ITEM BY ITEM AS THE WHOLE COUNCIL.

AND SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA BUILD 8 75 EVER, OR YES, WE WILL.

OR WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND WE'LL WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ON INDIVIDUAL ONES.

BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS, AS LATE AS THE EARLY AS THIS MORNING, WE GOT AN UPDATE THAT HAD DIFFERENT THINGS ON IT.

AND TO THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA COME IN HERE AND VOTE ON IT WITHOUT HAVING EVER HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHATEVER THE UPDATES ARE IS JUST NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE CITIZENS.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO MENTO, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE STAFF.

SO I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE US A, A SPECIAL MEETING ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S THE ONLY TOPIC ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE CAN GO THROUGH WITH WHATEVER THE BEST AND LATEST THAT BOTH STAFF AND THOSE GUYS HAVE COME UP WITH AND SAY, WELL, THERE'S NO, THESE, THESE ARE, LIKE, THEY'VE GOT THE ITEMS THAT THEY'VE SAID.

THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN EVER DO THAT.

THEN WE GOTTA SAY, IF THERE'S ONES ON THERE THAT WE'RE NEVER GONNA GIVE UP ON, THAT'S A KILLER.

AND THAT WAY WE KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING FORWARD OR NOT.

THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM SUITER, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, FIRST OFF, AGREE WITH YOU.

WE NEED TO VET THIS OUT MORE FOR THE REASON WHY I'M ABOUT TO, ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT I WANT TO, I WANT TO, UM, CLARIFY PREVIOUS STATEMENTS THAT I'VE MADE REGARDING, UM, ABOUT PEOPLE PASSING.

UM, IT WAS NOT JUST FOR MENTO, IT WAS FOR, UH, RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN THIS MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

AND I JUST, UH, FELT IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO COME TO THE MEETING TO, TO DISCUSS, UH, UH, AN ITEM TO, TO VOICE FOR OR AGAINST IT.

UM, AND IT DID.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN SOME MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE.

ONE OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN HAS ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY NOT CORRECT THAT, UM, THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT I OPPOSE THIS, UM, THIS UH, UM, UH, THIS PROJECT I WANT US TO DO TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

UM,

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AND THEY HAD IT BY RIGHT, AND IT WASN'T DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

AND WE'VE SEEN THAT MORE AND MORE.

AND I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE DONE THAT OUR STAFF, OUR EXCELLENT STAFF THAT HAS WORKED ENDLESSLY AT THIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.

UM, THERE'S STILL THINGS THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE ASKED FOR IT TO PASS.

I WANNA BE CAREFUL WITH IT.

I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME.

MY CONCERN AT THE TIME WAS THAT SOME, SOME MY COMMENTS HAD COME IN, OR RESPONSES HAD COME IN RIGHT BEFORE JUST I THINK ONE WORKDAY BEFORE THE, THE MEETING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS UPSET WITH.

BUT IT WAS NOT JUST AT THEM, IT WAS AT THIS STRING OF PEOPLE THAT COME UP.

AND I TAKE IT AS A WAY THAT IT'S TO FORCE IT THROUGH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THREE, FOUR, OR FIVE TIMES THE PASSAGE.

AND THAT IS NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY HERE.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU BRING YOUR CHILDREN OUT.

YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, UH, UM, UH, SACRIFICE YOUR TIME.

UM, SO WHAT I'M HOPING HERE, AND, AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WANT THE FULL COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THIS.

UM, I WOULD WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, UM, RESPECTIVE OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TONIGHT.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT HERE HAD EMERGENCIES THAT THAT REQUIRED THEM TO ADDRESS THINGS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT HERE 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FACE IT.

THEY TRULY, ONE OF 'EM HAD TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND THE OTHER ONE HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY TODAY.

SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL HERE BEING THAT SAYING THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN WRIGHT ALLUDED TO THAT WE GOT SOME MORE THINGS BACK TODAY AND, AND MENTO AND, AND THE STAFF ARE STILL WORKING ON IT.

UM, WE'RE NOW ON JANUARY, UH, LOOKING AT JANUARY 20TH.

I'M A TRANSACTIONAL ATTORNEY.

I HAVE THREE CLOSINGS BY 1231.

I'M GONNA BE WORKING THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS.

DON'T BACK OFF.

I WANT, I WANT OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR HOLIDAYS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS, I THINK YOU NEED TO USE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER, UH, DISCUSS WITH THEM, TO FURTHER DISCUSS WITH CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT IT, THAT IT IMPACTS.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, DON'T SLOW UP.

DON'T TAKE YOUR FOOT OFF THE, OFF THE PEDAL.

I'M GONNA BE WORKING.

Y'ALL NEED TO BE WORKING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND BE ABLE TO COME TO THE JANUARY 20TH DATE WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND SUCH.

IS THAT GONNA BE POSSIBLE TO PUT TOGETHER A WORK SESSION THAT COUNSEL CAN ALL ATTEND AND THAT WE CAN GET TO GET, GET ALL THE DOCUMENTS REVIEWED AND GET FOR TIMING WISE? WE COULD, WE COULD SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D HAVE COMPLETE DOCUMENTS READY.

UM, BUT WE, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

IS THERE ANY WAY, RICHARD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT Y'ALL COULD, IF YOU'RE GONNA GET AN EXTENSION, IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY YOU COULD GO TO FEBRUARY 2ND? WE DON'T FEEL REAL POSITIVE ABOUT THE SECOND, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO WORK ON THIS.

I UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORKSTATION PUT TOGETHER.

WE'LL, WE HAVE TWO MAYOR PROTE STATE COMMENTS.

AND I KNOW YOUR STAFF WORKS REALLY HARD AND, BUT WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO MEET ANY DEADLINE THAT Y'ALL, UH, SET FOR US OR REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY.

BUT I, BUT WE CAN'T RIGHT NOW SAY THAT WE CAN GET TO THE SECOND, ALL THEY CAN DO IS GO BACK ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE, THE BIG CHUNK OF THIS LAND IS 1500 PEOPLE OWN IT.

SO IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO, AND THEY LIVE IN CHINA.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE ANSWERS.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AS WELL, UH, TO VOTE ON, UM, A DEVELOPMENT THIS SIZE.

I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT

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UM, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT, THAT THE TEAM CONTINUE WORKING WITH STAFF BECAUSE UNTIL THE STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROJECT, AND I'LL ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I'M NOT EITHER AND I WON'T BE.

WE PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON STAFF TO GET IT RIGHT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT UNTIL THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE IT.

RIGHT.

SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE MENTO IF YOU EVEN REMOTELY WANT THIS TO PASS THAT, THAT YOU WORK REALLY HARD QUICKLY TO GET THIS RIGHT WITH STAFF.

SO WHAT DATE ARE WE LOOKING AT? WELL, IF I, IF I MAY, AS FAR AS, IF I MAY, AS FAR AS A WORK SESSION, I GUESS THAT THE BEST THING TO DO IS FOR THE MENTOS GROUP TO GIVE US SOME DATES AND SOME SEVERAL DATES THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A WORK SESSION SO WE, WE CAN GET WITH STAFF AND ALL COUNSEL TO SEE IF, UH, THE BEST AVAILABILITY.

SO, UM, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT DATES ON STAFF SIDE.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO POST THE POKE THE PACKET ON JANUARY 12TH FOR THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING.

AND SO IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE WORK SESSION THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY IN ORDER TO MEET IF YOU WANTED TO COMPLETE INFORMATION IN THE PACKET WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S PUBLISHED.

YEAH.

'CAUSE EVEN, EVEN IF WE HAD THE WORK SESSION THOUGH IN EARLY JANUARY, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE DOCUMENTS BACK FROM THEM.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE 20TH.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

BECAUSE WITH THE HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW, BEING AT THE NEXT WEEK IS CHRISTMAS WEEK AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT IS RIGHT BEFORE THE NEW YEAR AND CORRECT THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT FEBRUARY 2ND.

UH, SO I DROPPED DEAD DATES THE 30TH, JANUARY 30TH.

IF WE GO THE 27TH OR ANY DAY BETWEEN THERE AND THE 30TH, I MEAN, IT, IT IS THE NEXT, I MEAN, IF WE WENT TO THE 29TH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT DAY THEY GOT A CLOSE OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY GUARANTEE OF THE DATE WE GOT.

SO WE'LL BE GLAD TO MEET ANY OF THOSE OTHER DAYS.

WELL IF THERE'S A DAY THAT WOULD WORK OUT FOR Y'ALL, THEN, THEN THE ONLY THING I CAN DO IS JUST SUGGEST THAT WE, YOU CAN CONTINUE IT TO THE 20TH AND THAT MENTOS PROVIDES US SEVERAL DATES AND TIMES IN BETWEEN IN IT'S, IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY EARLY, UH, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET DOCUMENTATION BACK FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GIVE COMMENTS.

BUT THE, THE THING I I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP COMING UP TO THIS WHERE WE GET THINGS AT THE LAST MINUTE.

UH, AS COUNCILMAN SUITER AND COUNCILMAN WRIGHT BOTH SAID, WE GOT DOCUMENTS YESTERDAY THAT WAS SENT TO ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WITHOUT BEING SENT TO STAFF.