[ 1. Call to Order]
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LET'S CALL TO ORDER THE MONDAY, DECEMBER 8TH, 2025, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, WHICH WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER SIMPSON.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
PLEASE GUIDE US IN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE AS WE BALANCE HONORING AND RESPECTING THE LEGACY OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY AND ITS LEADERS THAT CAME BEFORE US WHILE LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE W ATCH OF TODAY AND THE W ATCH OF TOMORROW.
AND PLEASE ALSO GUIDE NEWLY APPOINTED CITY MANAGER BOYD, AS HE DOES THE SAME.
PLEASE WATCH OVER ALL OF US AND OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AS WE GO ON ABOUT OUR LIVES AND ENJOY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.
AS A MATTER OF BUSINESS AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR ALL ATTENDEES, THE COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT IF A CITIZEN COMMENTS IT IS DONE ONCE PER ONCE PER AGENDA ITEM WITH AN OBSERVANCE OF A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT.
THE COMMISSION APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND COOPERATION.
AS A MATTER OF BUSINESS AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR ALL ATTENDEES, THE COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT IF A CITIZEN COMMENTS IT IS DONE ONCE PER AGENDA ITEM WITH AN OBSERVANCE OF A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT.
THE COMMISSION APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION AND CONSIDERATION.
[3. Public Comments]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC CAN DO SO NOW, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONCERN WHETHER OR NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, MY NAME IS BRIAN BILLINGSLEY.
AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR RECORD? MY ADDRESS? YES, SIR.
2 4 2 5 NORTH HIGHWAY 77 IS THE ADDRESS OF THE BUSINESS I'M SPEAKING FOR.
DO YOU WANT MY PERSONAL? YES, PLEASE.
UH, 4 0 8 0 WATERPARK CIRCLE IN MANSFIELD, TEXAS.
I'M THE PLANT MANAGER FOR JAMES HARDY BUILDING PRODUCTS AT OUR WAXAHATCHEE MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
I'M HERE TO VOICE OUR SUPPORT FOR THE KEMP TRACT UNDER YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.
AS AN EMPLOYER IN WAXAHATCHEE FOR OVER 25 YEARS, WE BELIEVE THAT THE KEMPT TRACT MEETS THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE DFW REGION, WHICH IS ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
OUR REGION IS EXPERIENCING TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN BUSINESSES AND JOBS, WHICH MEANS THERE IS A NEED FOR INTENTIONAL, THOUGHTFUL, AND WELL-PLANNED COMMUNITIES FOR EMPLOYEES AND TEXANS TO LIVE AND THRIVE.
THE CHEM TRAK APPEARS TO HAVE A DIVERSE OPTION OF HOUSING, PARKS, TRAILS, AND MANY COMMUNITY ATTRIBUTES TO FIT, FIT WITHIN THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY YEARS AGO IN PLANNING FOR GROWTH.
FOR THESE REASONS, JAMES HARDY SUPPORTS THE APPROVAL OF THE KEMP TRACK.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY ADDRESS IS 100 INDIAN COURT IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, MY, UH, I REALLY HAVE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY OF THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE, UH, NUMBER FIVE AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT JUST FOR THAT ONE ADDRESS OR IS THAT FOR THE WHOLE AREA? WHOLE ADDRESS QUESTIONS FOR THE AGENDA LATER ON.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO QUESTIONS LATER? YES, MA'AM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? ARE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.
I LIVE AT 3 0 3 MODINE AVENUE.
UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTAL, IS THIS THE TIME TO, YOU CAN COMMENT ON IT, BUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE AGENDA, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S NOT PUBLIC, IT JUST WHATEVER I WANNA SAY SURE ABOUT IT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE THE CHANGING OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE TO A ZONE THAT ALLOWS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
BASICALLY SHORT TERM RENTALS CHANGE MY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM A PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY TO A PLACE FOR A BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY BY RENTING A HOUSE FOR A FEW DAYS OR A FEW WEEKS.
I'VE LIVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 30 YEARS AND I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS THERE.
UM, I DON'T NEED STRANGERS COMING AND GOING CONSTANTLY.
THIS BRINGS IN A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE THAT UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THE SAME GOOD INTENTIONS
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AND TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF CRIME CAUSED BY INDIVIDUALS STAYING AT SHORT-TERM RENTALS OVER, UH, ALL OVER THE METROPLEX FROM SHOOTINGS, THEFT, SELLING DRUGS TO ORGANIZED CRIME.
THEY MOVE FROM ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOME TO ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WHY SHOULD OUR COMMUNITY BE UPROOTED AND RUINED BY PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO STAKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RUIN IT FOR THE REST OF US WHO LIVE THERE IN TH THAT LIVE THERE EVERY DAY, PLEASE THINK OF US WHO LIVE THERE AND WANT TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A SAFE PLACE FOR FAMILIES AND FOR CHILDREN.
VOTE NO FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? MADAM CHAIR, WOULD IT BE OKAY THOUGH? WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR FOR ME TO SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK? SURE.
UM, WE HAVE THREE SHORT TERM RENTAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, AND, AND THIS GROUP HAS SAID THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, THE CITY HAS SO MUCH MORE ABILITY TO POLICE THOSE RENTALS THAN THEY DO IF IT'S A LONG-TERM RENTAL.
THEY CAN RENT TO WHOEVER THEY WANT, HOWEVER MANY CARS THEY WANT TO PARK THERE.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST NOTHING THAT CAN HAPPEN, UM, FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.
THERE ARE SO MANY RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, BUT I JUST WANNA START OUT THIS MEETING AND, AND HEARING THESE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UM, APPLICATIONS BY SAYING THAT FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[4. Consent Agenda ]
CONSENT AGENDA.ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER ITEM FOUR ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.
ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR AGENDA FOR SE, SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.
OH, SORRY, THIS ISN'T TURNING ON.
UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN THE MOTION CARRIES.
[5. Public Hearing on a request by Joshua Bell and Tiffany Bell, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Short-Term Rental use within a Single Family-2 zoning district located at 105 Indian Ct (Property ID 173005) - Owners: Joshua and Tiffany Bell (ZDC-137-2025)]
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY JOSHUA BELL AND TIFFANY BELL FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONE ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 1 0 5 INDIAN COURT PROPERTY ID 1 7 3 0 0 5.OWNERS JOSHUA AND TIFFANY BELL, ZDC 1 3 7 20 25.
SO I WILL BE PRESENTING CASE ZDC 1 3 7 2 0 2 5.
SO I'M HERE PRESENTING A REQUEST BY, UM, TIFFANY AND JOSHUA BELL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED AT 1 0 5 INDIAN COURT.
THE PROPERTY HAS, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS THREE BEDROOMS, 1,340 SQUARE FEET, THREE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO NUISANCE RELATED CALLS TO THE WAXAHATCHEE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS.
THE, UM, EMERGENCY CONTACT IS LOCATED 12 MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND, UM, THE ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR FLOOR PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE SITE PLAN ON THE SCREEN.
AND THIS IS ALSO AN IMAGE OF THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND STAFF HAS RECEIVED, RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UM, FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, AND STAFF HAS PROVIDED THE RECOMMENDED MOTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORTS.
AND I AM OPEN TO ANY OF Y'ALL QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
I NOTICED THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT IT SAYS A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT GUESTS.
UM, AND THEN ON THE HOUSE RULES IT SAYS A MAXIMUM OF SIX GUESTS.
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YOU CAN HAVE BASICALLY WITH A THREE BEDROOM, YOU PER THE CITY, YOU CAN HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE.IS THE APPLICANT LIMITING IT TO SIX? I BELIEVE DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS? UM, IT WAS, UH, LEMME SAY THAT FIRST, BUT THEN WE INCREASED THE PARKING AMOUNT.
UM, SO EIGHT IS THE PROPER AMOUNT, CORRECT? UH, UH, WELL, SIX, WE'RE MAXING OUT AT SIX.
SO SIX, THEY WILL LIMIT IT TO SIX, BUT WE'LL, WELL UPDATE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THE APPLICANTS CONTINUE, ARE THEY GONNA REMAIN IN THE COMMUNITY AS RESIDENTS? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANTS.
THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION KIND OF GOES TO YOU GUYS CONCERN.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY CONCERN.
AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND HOME ADDRESS.
UM, OUR HOME ADDRESS CURRENTLY IS IN CARROLLTON.
UH, WE JUST MOVED THERE JUST SIX MONTHS AGO.
UH, BOUGHT FROM MY, UH, NEW, UH, I GUESS OUR FATHER-IN-LAW.
UH, HER, HER MOM IS A WIDOW FROM TWO YEARS AGO AND JUST GOT REMARRIED.
AND ANYWAYS, SO, UH, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THEIR HOUSE.
SO WE DID, UM, UH, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
UH, A VESTED INTEREST, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE WE SOME OUTSIDERS COMING IN TRYING TO, TRYING TO INVEST, UH, FOR OUR CASE, THAT'S NOT IT.
UH, WE WENT TO NELSON WAS SGU, UH, NOW IT'S NELSON UNIVERSITY.
UH, WE'RE GRADUATES FROM THERE.
WE STAYED IN THE AREA FOR NINE, 10 YEARS.
UH, AND THEN JUST RECENTLY MOVED OUT.
UH, MY SISTER LIVES HERE, MY PARENTS LIVE HERE.
UH, ALWAYS WILL BE FOREVER, WILL BE.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, WE DON'T CURRENTLY RESIDE, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO SAYING THAT WE WON'T COME BACK, UH, ANYTIME SOON.
SO I THINK YOUR SISTER'S DEAN OF STUDENTS THERE, DEAN OF STUDENTS OF NELSON UNIVERSITY.
NOW THE VESTED INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY, OKAY.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.
UH, MY NAME'S CHARLES EDWARDS.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 4 SWEETLEAF DRIVE, RED OAK, TEXAS.
AND, UM, SPEAKING FOR, UM, I'M A LANDLORD AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I STOPPED LANDLORDING WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS I WOULD RENT TO A PERSON AND, UM, I LITERALLY HAD A DRUG DEALER IN OUR, ONE OF OUR HOUSE, UH, IN DALLAS.
AND, UM, IT LITERALLY WAS A, A DRIVE BY AND WE HAD TO EVICT THIS PERSON WHO HAD ALL THIS ACTION GOING ON.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, AS A LANDLORD, UH, THAT WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT WAS PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, PARK CARS IN THE YARD OR PARK CARS ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET OR JUST LEAVE THEIR PLACE TRASHY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING I LIKE ABOUT WAXAHATCHEE AND DENISON WHERE WE, UM, HAVE OUR AIRBNBS IS THERE ARE A BUNCH OF RULES.
UH, WE HAVE SO MANY RULES ON OUR AIRBNBS.
UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T RENT TO, UH, RENT RENT FROM US, AND THAT'S OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO CARE ABOUT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE CARE ABOUT OUR, OUR INVESTMENT.
UM, AND SO I'M JUST COMING TO BE SOMEONE THAT MAYBE HELPS SOME FOLKS UNDERSTAND.
UH, THE AIRBNB IS BEST CASE SCENARIO.
WHEN IT, WHEN IT, UH, COMES TO A, UH, INVESTMENT HOME IN, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN YOU HAD TO EVICT THE, UH, THE DRUG DEALER MM-HMM
IN TERMS OF TIME, I KNOW IT COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY.
IN TERMS OF TIME, WHAT DID THAT COST YOU? HOW LONG DID IT TAKE? OKAY.
I, I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
AND WE HAD, AND, AND THIS GUY COMES TO COURT AND HE FALLS BANKRUPTCY AND THEN HE BLOCKS THE EVICTION AND IT WAS INSANE.
YOU KNOW, MEANWHILE WE HAVE ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE THAT THIS PERSON RENTED THE PLACE UNDER A FALSE NAME.
AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS INSANE, YOU KNOW.
MEANWHILE, UM, WE HAVE 15 AIRBNBS, WE'VE HAD ZERO PROBLEMS. SO IF YOU HAD A PROBLEM IN A, IN A B, B OR AIRBNB, WHAT DO YOU DO TO SOLVE IT? WE CALL THE COPS AND THEY GET OUT THAT QUICK.
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SEEING NONE.WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[6. Consider recommendation of ZDC-137-2025]
APPROVAL OF ZDC 1 37 20 25.A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7. Public Hearing on a request by Emilia Atkinson, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Short-Term Rental use within a Single Family-2 zoning district located at 311 Morene Ave (Property ID 173731) - Owners: Emilia Ochoa-Atkinson and Joshua Atkinson (ZDC-144-2025)]
SEVEN, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY AMELIA ATKINS ATKINSON.FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL USE WITH A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT THREE 11 MAUREEN AVENUE.
OWNERS AMELIA OCHOA ATKINSON AND JO JOSHUA ATKINSON.
I'LL BE PRESENTING CASE ZDC 1 1 4 4 2 0 2 5.
UM, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT THREE 11 MAUREEN AVENUE.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS FOUR BEDROOMS, 1,943 SQUARE FEET WITH FOUR OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING AS A SHORT TERM, NOT BEEN OPERATING THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THERE HAS BEEN NO NUISANCE RELATED CALLS TO THE WAXAHATCHEE PD IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
AN EMERGENCY CONTACT IS LOCATED SIX MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD.
IF YOU, UM, LOOK TO THE SCREENS, YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE SITE PLAN.
AND THEN IT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOME STAFF HAS RECEIVED, UM, ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
I'M SORRY, IT'S ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND EIGHT LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND I AM OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANTS ARE ALSO PRESENT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MADAM CHAIRPERSON? I DO WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING.
I'M LOOKING AT THE ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND IT DOES LIST THAT, IS THAT IT'S UNDER HOMESTEAD.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO P AND Z AND COUNSEL.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? ALL RIGHT.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? PLEASE PROVIDE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, OUR NEW ADDRESS IS FIVE 20 NORTH COLLEGE.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT UNDER HOMESTEAD 'CAUSE WE MOVED IT, UH, WE BOUGHT THE WHITE HOUSE IN FRONT OF MARVIN.
I LIVED IN WAXAHATCHEE FOR MY WHOLE LIFE.
GRADUATED WAXAHATCHEE HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, MY PARENTS GOT MY GRANDPARENTS' HOUSE IN THE WHEEL.
WE BOUGHT IT, WE IMPROVED IT AND WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA LET IT GO.
UH, IT'S WEIRD THAT ALL THE OPPOSITION IS THERE 'CAUSE ALMOST EVERY HOUSE IS A REC RENTAL HOUSE AROUND US.
SO I MEAN, LIKE, THE WHOLE BLOCK.
SO WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HELD ON.
AND SO, UH, I I, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER, LOVE THE TOWN OF THE AREA, SO I DIDN'T, WHY LET IT GO? AND WE ARE LITERALLY A MILE DOWN THE STREET JUST, JUST TO CORRECT.
I'M LOOKING AT THE S COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND IT DOES LIST HOMESTEAD.
WELL, WE, I GUESS WE SWITCHED IT.
I'M NOT A REALTOR, BUT WE, WE SWITCHED IT TO THE NEW ONE UNIT, UH, TO FIVE 20 NORTH CALL, UH, COUNSELOR.
I THINK THEY UPDATE 'EM ON, UM, JANUARY 1ST, I THINK.
UNLESS IT'S FASTER THAN THAT NOW.
IT SHOULD BE FASTER THAN THAT.
SO WHEN WAS THE SWITCH MADE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? IT'S NOT A SWITCH.
IT'S, UH, YOU HAVE TO, TO PETITION TO FILE TO DO AWAY WITH THE HOMESTEAD AND THEN FILE TO GET A NEW FOR HOMESTEAD ON NEW, I MEAN, WE, WE GOT THE LETTER AND IT'S NOT THAT I'M SAYING THAT YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHAT PEOPLE SAY IS LIKE, WELL, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF, SO YEAH, WE, I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, YOU COULD TAKE CARE OF IT, SO, OKAY.
YEAH, AND WE, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE NEW HOUSE AND OUR, OUR, OUR BUSINESS IS HERE AND STUFF, SO WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, SO, SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THIS LISTED AS A CONDITION, UH, ON APPROVAL? YES, IT'S, THANK YOU, ZACH.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I, I APPRECIATE YOU AFFIRMING THAT BECAUSE THAT HOUSE ON THE CORNER RIGHT THERE ON MARVIN WHITE ONE AND TO MAR IS ABOUT A ONE MINUTE DRIVE.
SO IF, OH, AND THEN I, I'VE DONE THE, UH, THE AC UNITS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO I GET CALLS FROM THEM, WALK ACROSS THE STREET, TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO, COMMISSIONER UNDERWOOD, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RENTAL PROPERTY? NO, SIR.
SO, AND LIKE I SAID, THE, UH, THE FINANCIALS ASPECT OF IT AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAID OF THE AIRBNB, IT SEEMED A BETTER DEAL TO, TO DO THE AIRBNB DEAL THAN IT WAS TO LONG TERM.
SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
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WE WILL.IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO
[8. Consider recommendation of ZDC-144-2025]
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF OF ZDC DASH 1 44 20 25 IS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, USE.UH, PENDING THAT IT, WE TRANSFER THE HOMESTEAD, THE HOMESTEAD FROM THIS PROPERTY TO THE NEW RESIDENCE OF THE OWNER OF THE RENTAL PROPERTY.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[9. Public Hearing on a request by Timothy Ramos, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Short-Term Rental use within a Single Family-2 zoning district located at 211 Pecan St (Property ID 175135) - Owner: Seven Partners LLC (ZDC-165-2025)]
NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY TIMOTHY RAMOS.FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT TWO 11 CON STREET.
PROPERTY ID 1 7 5 1 3 5 OWNERS SEVEN PARTNERS.
SO I'M PRESENTING CASE NUMBER ZDC 1 6 5 2 0 2 5.
UM, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM MENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT TWO 11 PECAN STREET.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A, UH, THREE BEDROOM PROPERTY WITH 1007 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING THIS PROPERTY AS A, UM, SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THE CURRENT APPLICANT HAS NOT.
HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY OPERATED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH IS WHY, UM, IT HAS TO, THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY, UM, FOR REGISTRATION BECAUSE IT SWITCHED TO OWNERSHIP.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN NO NUISANCE RELATED CALLS TO THE WAXAHATCHEE PD D IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS.
UM, THE EMERGENCY CONTACT IS LOCATED 12 MILES FROM THE WICK PROPERTY.
UM, BY MY NOTES, ELLIS COUNTY PRESIDENT DISTRICT DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD.
AND WE RECEIVE SIX LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
THERE'S THE, UM, SITE PLAN AND FOUR PLAN AS WELL AS THE FRONT FOR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SIX LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND I'M ALSO OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THEM ONLY PROVIDING TWO PARKING SPOTS WITH A TOTAL OF SIX, UM, OCCUPANTS? UM, NO, I DO NOT.
UH, THEY, WE LIMITED THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PARKING TO MATCH.
UH, THEY PUT THAT IN THE HOST RULES.
WE LIMITED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING TO MATCH THE AMOUNT OF GUESTS SO THAT, UM, TWO CARS WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR SIX GUESTS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.
DAVID, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.
HELLO, I'M TIMOTHY RAMOS AND, UH, I LIVE AT 24 34 SAVANNAH CIRCLE IN MIDLOTHIAN.
UM, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I CONTINUE WITH MY STATEMENTS, BUT THE OWNERS IS ACTUALLY THE PROMISE CHURCH MINISTRIES.
I DON'T THINK IT GOT OFFICIALLY CHANGED OVER.
THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO WE BOUGHT IT FROM.
SO IT'S THE, THE PROMISE CHURCH MINISTRIES.
WE'RE LOCATED HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, OUR BUILDING THAT WE ACTUALLY RENT OF IS ACTUALLY DOWN THE STREET.
UM, THIS KIND OF BROWN BUBBLE DOME CHURCH.
WE'VE BEEN RENTING THERE NOW FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
SO, UM, ON THAT NOTE, UH, THE PROMISED CHURCH MINISTRIES HAS BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNI COMMUNITY NOW FOR ABOUT, UH, THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE HIGHLY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE WANNA SEE THIS COMMUNITY GROW.
WE WANNA SEE IT TO DO WELL, UH, IN MANY WAYS.
BUT, UM, DONOR, UH, DONATIONS HAVE BEEN GREAT.
HOWEVER, UM, OUR, OUR IDEA WAS NOT TO ONLY SOLELY SUPPORT, UH, BASED ON DONATIONS FROM THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE, UH, WITHIN THE AREA.
UH, WE WANTED TO USE WHATEVER MONEY WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE GIVEN OVER THIS PAST YEAR, NOT INCLUDING THE YEARS BEFORE, UH, 25 TO $35,000 BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
UH, WHETHER IT'S WIDOWS, MOTHERS, UM, SINGLE FAMILIES, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS TURNED OFF, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, OR JUST DIFFERENT GRANTS, UH, THAT WE'VE JUST GIVEN OUT TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT IN TIMES OF NEEDS.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA FINISH OUT MORE BECAUSE I, THAT'S WHY I SAY 25 TO 30,000.
WE'RE DOING ANOTHER THING FOR CHRISTMAS HERE.
SO, UH, WE'RE HIGHLY INVESTED IN OUR, OUR COMMUNITY HERE AND WE WANT TO SEE IT GROW.
WE WANT TO SEE IT DO, UH, UH, GREAT THINGS WITH WAXAHATCHEE.
I TOO WENT TO NELSON SLASH SAGU UNIVERSITY AS WELL.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT BEING HERE.
UM, SO, UM, THE OTHER GOOD THING, LIKE, UH, THAT GENTLEMAN OVER THERE SAID IS WE HAVE A LOT OF RULES IN PLACE THAT PREVENT, UM, KIND OF THE OUTLIERS OF PEOPLE WHO DO WANNA DO HARM TO OUR COMMUNITY
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AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.SO WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD RULES IN PLACE TO SAY, HEY, THAT IS NOT OKAY.
AND WE ARE WILLING TO SAY NO TO TENANTS OR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND OCCUPY OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, UM, IF THEY VIOLATE THE RULES, THAT IS NOT OKAY WITH US.
AND SO WE TRY TO BE AS STRICT AS POSSIBLE SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY STAYS A GOOD LOOKING, VIBRANT COMMUNITY, UM, TO WHERE IT CONTINUES TO BE UPLIFTED IN THAT WAY.
SO, UM, WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE IF YOU GUYS ALLOW IT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO WANT TO CONFIRM THAT, UM, THAT THE COUNTY RECORDS DO SHOW THAT ON SEPTEMBER 29TH IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO PROMISE CHURCH MINISTRY.
COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? JUST THE GOAL HERE? SO THE MINISTRY OWNS THE PROPERTY, THE MINISTRY OWN THE PROPERTY, DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR INCOME PURPOSES, RIGHT.
TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO ANYTHING THAT COMES IN IS GONNA GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BASICALLY.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
UH, CHARLES EDWARDS 1 0 4 SWEET LEAF DRIVE IN OAK, TEXAS.
UM, I WAS THE PAST OWNER OF THE PLACE.
UM, THIS HOUSE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, UM, I ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS FROM A LANDLORD WHO WAS TIRED OF NOT GETTING RENT.
UH, THE PEOPLE THAT UM, WERE RENTING THE HOUSE AND NOT PAYING RENT HAD 17 PIT BULLS.
UH, HE WAS, UM, THE GUY WAS, UM, UH, SELLING PIT BULLS OR WHATEVER, HAD LIKE A PIT BULL FORM AND THE HOUSE LOOKED AND SMELLED LIKE THAT.
IT WAS THE WORST HOUSE ON THE BLOCK.
OH, I, I, I HATE TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY WE DID A GREAT JOB REHABBING IT.
AND, AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS, UH, OTHER FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLLOWED THAT REHAB.
UM, THREE OR FOUR HOMES CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOLLOWED THE LEAD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE DID, UM, ON OUR, ON OUR AIRBNB.
AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE, UH, COMPETITIVE.
UM, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE AIRBNBS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WE, WE WANT TO BE PICKED.
UM, WE, UH, TIM IS ALLOWING US TO STILL HOST IT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S OUR BABY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HURT TO SELL IT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE GLAD THAT THAT, THAT TIM GOT IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
STAFF, UM, SINCE THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER MM-HMM
UM, DOES THAT IMPACT THIS APPLICATION AT ALL? WHEN THE APPLICATION GOES THROUGH IT, IT IS GONNA BE TIED TO THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER.
SO WE'LL MAKE THAT EXPLICITLY CLEAR IN, IN BOTH THE SUP ORDINANCE AND THE REGISTRATION.
SO ZACH, THE REGISTRATION IS A CONTINGENCY OR, OR A CONDITION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
A REGISTRATION FOLLOWING SUP APPROVAL IS A CONDITION FOR, FOR ALL STR THAT YOU SEE.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION
[10. Consider recommendation of ZDC-165-2025]
MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 1 65 DASH 2025.A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL USE.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[11. Public Hearing on a request by Grant Easton, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Dwelling Unit use within a Planned Development-27-Single Family-2 zoning district located at 301 Buffalo Creek (Property ID 174372) - Owner: Claire Bridgeford and Brandon Bridgeford (ZDC-159-2025)]
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 11, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY GRANT EASTON FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT USE WITHIN A PLANNED ZONING, I'M SORRY.PLAN DEVELOPMENT 27 SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 3 0 1 BUFFALO CREEK PROPERTY ID 1 7 4 3 7 2.
OWNER IS CLAIRE BRIDGEFORD AND BRANDON BRIDGEFORD.
THEY'RE PUTTING YOU TO WORK TONIGHT.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I'M PRESENTING CASE NUMBER ZDC 1 5 9 2 0 2 5.
UM, AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY, UM, DWELLING UNIT USE WITHIN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 27 SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 3 0 1, UM, BUFFALO CREEK.
SO, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR THE, UM, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS FOR AN EXISTING GARAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY, UM, 1500 SQUARE FEET.
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UM, UM, THE PROPOSED, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT REMODEL OF THE GARAGE WILL BE 1,552 SQUARE FEET.IT MEETS THE MINIMUM SET BED REQUIREMENTS BY THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY MEETS PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WILL HAVE ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM, A WASHER AND DRYER CONNECTION, A KITCHEN AND AN OPEN LIVING AREA.
UM, THE, THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM THE ALLEY, UM, OF THE PROPERTY AND IT IS PROPOSED TO HAVE ITS OWN GARAGE.
THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE DOES CURRENTLY HAVE AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE, SO THEY WON'T BE LOSING THE REQUIRED, UM, GARAGE OR PARKING FOR THE HOME.
AND HERE IS A FLOOR PLAN OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS WELL AS A SITE PLAN WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, STRUCTURE SITS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
AND HERE'S A FACADE PLAN OF THE STRUCTURE AFTER THE REMODEL.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED A ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR THE, UM, SUP AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO IS THIS LIKE A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE? YES.
ANY, THERE'S NO PLAN TO RENT IT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, UM, RENT, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
AND WE MAKE THAT KNOWN TO THE APPLICANTS THROUGH THE, UM, DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD, PLEASE? YES.
CHARLES PLACE, MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS.
WE HAVE BOUGHT LAND IN WAXAHATCHEE, THOUGH WE WILL BE BUILDING.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SO THIS WAS JUST A, UH, MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE.
THE, UM, THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE, HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW LIVES IN CALIFORNIA CURRENTLY.
UM, THEY JUST HAD, UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UM, I THINK THEIR DAUGHTER, THEIR OTHER SON, UM, ALSO LIVES IN WAXAHATCHEE TOO.
SO THEY'RE, UM, LOOKING TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
THEY HAVE LIKE FIVE OR SIX GRANDKIDS, UH, THAT THEY, SO USUALLY THEY COME AND STAY AT ONE OF THE HOUSES FOR A MONTH OR TWO AT A TIME SINCE THEY'RE RETIRED AND WHATNOT.
SO THEY WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PERMANENT SPACE, UH, FOR THEM.
THERE'S BEEN NO TALKS OF RENTING OR SHORT TERM RENTALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE DESIGNED FOR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION
[12. Consider recommendation of ZDC-159-2025]
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 1 5 9 20 25.A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY DRILLING UNIT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[13. Public Hearing on a request by David Berryman, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Structure 700+ within a Single-Family 2 zoning district located at 303 Kirven Ave (Property ID 311319) - Owners: David Berryman and Barbara Schneider (ZDC-150-2025)]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 13, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DAVID BERRYMAN.FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, 700 PLUS WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 3 0 3 CURVIN AVENUE, PROPERTY ID 3 1 1 3 1 9 OWNERS, DAVID BERRYMAN AND BARBARA SCHNEIDER.
WAS EVERYBODY ELSE ON VACATION OR IT JUST, IT JUST FELT LIKE THIS, IT JUST FELT LIKE THIS.
SO, UM, PRESENTING CASE NUMBER, UH, ZDC 1 50 20 25.
UM, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE GREATER THAN 700 FEET WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 3 0 3 CURVIN AVENUE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE CASE HISTORY BEFORE I DESCRIBE THE STRUCTURE.
UM, THE APPLICANT INITIALLY APPLIED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT TO PERMIT AN INTERIOR REMODEL IN 2024.
UM, THE PERMIT DID NOT INCLUDE THE DEMOLITION OR RECONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED GARAGE.
DURING THE SITE, DURING A SITE VISIT IN 2024, STAFF NOTICED THAT AN UNPERMITTED ITS HISTORY STRUCTURE WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION STAFF ISSUED A STOP WORK ORDER AND DIRECTED THE APPLICANT TO SEEK APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT DUE TO THE STRUCTURE SIZE PRIOR TO RESUMING, UM, WORK ON THE STRUCTURE AND, UM, OKAY.
AND SO THE, UH, PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS, UM, THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE.
PROPERTY LINE IS SIX FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
UM, SO THIS WILL REQUIRE THE SOUTHERN WALL OF THE STRUCTURE TO BE REDESIGNED AS A FIRE RATED WALL.
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STRUCTURE AS WELL ALSO SITS ON A UTILITY EASEMENT.HOWEVER, AFTER RESEARCH BY STAFF, WE FIND THAT CITY HAS NO INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER THAT EASEMENT.
SO THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR AN AMENDED PLA TO REMOVE THAT EASEMENT SO THAT IT IS LEGALLY SITTING, UM, WHERE IT IS.
UM, AND SO, AND THE STRUCTURE IS ALSO PROPOSED TO BE USED FOR PARKING, HOBBIES AND PROJECTS AND STORAGE.
AND SO HERE'S A, UM, SITE PLAN OF THE, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THAT'S THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE STRUCTURE CURRENTLY AS IS.
AND THAT IS THE, UM, STRUCTURE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRE WEIGHTED WALL AT THE PREVIOUS IMAGE.
WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT TO BE A FIRE WEIGHTED WEIGHTED WALL.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED, UM, TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION, UM, FOR THIS SUP REQUEST.
AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
AND I'M ALSO OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY WITH CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? WHY ARE Y'ALL JUST NOW COMING HERE? SHOULDN'T THIS BEEN DONE BEFORE? ALL OF THAT IS DONE? YES.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN, LIKE, UM, WHEN I MENTIONED THE CASE HISTORY, UH, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AN INTERIOR REMODEL.
UM, DURING THE INTERIOR REMODEL THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION, UM, A DETACHED GARAGE WAS DEMOLISHED AND THEN STARTED TO BE REBUILT.
AND THAT'S WHEN IT GOT THE STOP WORK ORDER WHEN, UM, CODE WENT OUT TO DO AN INSPECTION.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE NOW TRYING TO GET THE SUP SO THAT IT CAN BE OKAY.
SO THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE BEFORE.
THE NEW STRUCTURE WAS STARTED, CORRECT? LOOKS LIKE A SMALL BUILDING OR SOME TOOL SHED OR SOMETHING.
AND WAS IT WAS, IT WAS ANOTHER GARAGE FULL STOP.
ONCE THEY GOT THE NOTIFICATION.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY ORDINANCES OR ANYTHING AGAINST THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY TOTAL? UM, YES.
DEPENDING ON LOT SIZE AND ZONING, UM, OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES, YOU'LL HAVE TO GET AN SUP WITH THIS.
UM, WITH THIS ONE IT'S OVER 700 SQUARE FEET, SO THAT REQUIRES AN SUP AS WELL.
OKAY, BUT THERE'S NOT LIKE FOUR OR FIVE SEPARATE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? UH, NO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, DAVID.
UM, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION, SORRY.
ON THE, UH, CODE INSPECTIONS OR THE INSPECTION THAT WAS DONE, LIKE HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STRUCTURE SO FAR? LIKE DOES IT LOOK MOSTLY UP TO CODE OR IS THE WHOLE THING GONNA HAVE TO GET TORN DOWN AND REBUILT? OR LIKE, HOW, HOW IS IT AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW? YEAH, SO WE HAVEN'T NOTICED ANY PARTICULAR CONCERNS OTHER THAN WHAT DAVID MENTIONED ABOUT THIS WALL BEING SO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
TYPICALLY IT'D BE A, A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
SO, UH, BEING SO CLOSE THAT THIS HAS TO BE, UH, TYPICALLY A FIRE RATED WALL.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE, UH, HOW, HOW THIS WALL IS DESIGNED AND IT MAY NEED TO BE REDESIGNED TO, TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
THAT IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IN THE REPORT.
'CAUSE THE, THE STRUCTURE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT PICTURE IS THE NEIGHBORS, CORRECT? YES SIR.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, WHAT PAGE WAS THAT? UH, DENIAL? UH, THAT, UH, OPPOSITION? YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE OPPOSITION.
I'M GOING THROUGH THE 457 PAGES AND I WAS SORRY.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE, UH, THAT WAS RECEIVED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A PRINTED COPY.
ZACH, WAS IT DATED FOR TODAY? GIMME JUST A MOMENT HERE.
LEMME SEE IF WE'VE GOT IT IN OUR STACK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN YOUR STACK THERE.
UH, WE DO HAVE A COPY OF THAT, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU.
WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS LISTED ON THE REASON FOR THE OPPOSITION? NOT SPECIFICALLY, NO.
WHICH NEIGHBOR WAS THAT? IT'S GONNA BE THE NEIGHBOR IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE PROPERTY HERE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? KEVIN TIDWELL.
I LIVE AT 4 0 6 COMMERCE STREET IN MAPLE OF TEXAS.
I'M ORIGINALLY FROM WAXAHATCHEE, BORN AND RAISED.
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I DIDN'T, I GOT ALL MY PERMITS THROUGH THE CITY AND WAS UNAWARE THAT I HAD TO GET A SPECIAL USE OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AT THE TIME.UH, I HAD THE DRIVEWAY FORM ALL THAT INSPECTOR COME OUT AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING, TALKED ABOUT THE SETBACKS, TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE, TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING, AND NOT A WORD WAS SAID ABOUT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND WENT ON WITH THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION.
I HAVE HAD AN ENGINEER GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT AND, AND WRITE THE LETTERS OF SAYING EVERYTHING IS UP TO CODE AND BUILT PROPERLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRE RATED WALL ON THE, THE SHARED SIDE, WHICH WE WILL MOST DEFINITELY ADDRESS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A PARKING GARAGE WITH OR PARKING SPACES.
THE OTHER GARAGE WAS IN DISREPAIR.
SOMEBODY POURED A SLAB IN IT BEFORE THAT WAS CRACKED.
THERE WAS NO REBAR, NO NOTHING.
THIS STRUCTURE WILL BE BUILT IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE HOUSE WITH THE DOVETAIL RAFTERS AND THE SAME ONE 17 SIDING.
SO IT WOULD LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE HOUSE AND IT'LL ALSO BE A BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND ADD VALUE TO THE HOME AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
I I DO HAVE A COMMENT TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT, YOU KNOW, I SURE, OF COURSE.
I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A PRECEDENT SET BY OUR GROUP OF, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FACT MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, SO THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN.
I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO KEEP IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT.
AND, AND IF IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE THAT THAT DOES HAPPEN.
BUT WHEN YOU GET ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS FOR A BUILDING, IT SHOWS THE SETBACKS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IF SO, YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
PLEASE PROVIDE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS WHITEHEAD, UH, 3 0 1 CURVIN AVENUE.
UH, WE LIVE JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
WE HAVE OUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A GARAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING, UH, WITH SOME REMODELS AND HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS ALREADY.
UM, I THINK IN THE PROCESS WE DETERMINED THAT, UH, WE WERE A SINGLE FAMILY TWO VERSUS A SINGLE FAMILY THREE.
SO I THINK THE SETBACKS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SURVEY SHOWED FIVE FEET, WHEREAS THIS NOW IS A THREE FOOT BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SINGLE TWO.
UM, CURRENTLY WE, I, THE QUESTION, AND THE CONCERN I HAVE IS NOT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING A BUILDING, THE CONCERN IS HOW CLOSE IT IS.
UM, WHEN THEY BUILT IT, IT, THEY, THEY PUT THE FORMS, IT WAS THREE FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE THREE FOOT, UH, UH, RAFTER.
AND I THOUGHT IT ORIGINALLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE.
UM, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS RIGHT NOW, FROM THE FRONT FASCIA BOARD ON THE, ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE IS FIVE AND A HALF INCHES.
AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE A GUTTER, WHICH IS GOING TO PUT IT ALL BUT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WHEN WE DID ALL OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE HAD A DOTTED LINE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR SETBACKS.
I THOUGHT THAT THAT MEANT NOTHING.
COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SETBACK LINE.
I DON'T KNOW, I ASSUMED EES WERE INCLUDED.
UM, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WALK BY AND SAY, OH, YOU STARTED YOUR GARAGE.
UM, AGAIN, I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T MIND THAT THERE'S A BUILDING BACK THERE.
IT'S JUST THE LOCATION IS WHAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ON US.
SO IF THERE CAN BE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, BUT I'VE GOT SOME, I'VE GOT SOME PHOTOGRAPHS HERE THAT KIND OF SHOW FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED.
AND THERE'S ONE OF 'EM WHERE IT'S GOT A PLUMB BOB HANGING FROM THE FASCIA BOARD THAT, THAT SHOWS.
I MEAN, IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE OUT THERE.
SO IS THE SLAB, IS THE SLAB RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINES? NO, IT'S NOT.
THE SLAB IS ACTUALLY, THAT IS A THREE FOOT FLATWORK SIDEWALK THAT CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE JUST AS ANY FENCE CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
THIS USED TO BE AN SF THREE, NOT AN SF TWO.
AND IT SOMEHOW ANOTHER GOT GROUPED INTO SF TWO WHENEVER THE CITY CHANGED EVERYTHING AND TOOK IT ALL, WHATEVER.
BUT EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER, THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SF THREE FOREVER.
SO IF YOU STEP ON THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY, YOU LOOK DIRECTLY DOWN THE,
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THE LINE, THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY JUST RIGHT, RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.THERE'S A GARAGE IN THE SAME SPOT, IN THE SAME LINE OF, OF THE WORK OR WHATEVER.
SO IT WAS THREE AND THREE IN THE OLD SF THREE.
AND IT WAS NOT FIVE BECAUSE SF TWO IS FIVE AND FIVE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S THE OLD INFIELD FROM 1930.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY SF THREE, NOT THEY CHANGED IT.
WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED IT TO SF TWO.
IT SHOULD BE SF THREE BECAUSE IT IS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT WAY.
JUST LIKE WHENEVER THE CITY CAME AND PUT, WHEN WE FIRST PUT THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT TO DO THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH INCLUDED THE FENCE, WHICH INCLUDED ALL THE OTHER STUFF THEY TOLD US WE HAD TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
WELL, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE ONLY SIDEWALK ON THE WHOLE DAGGUM ROAD.
SO WHEN THE CITY TOOK THE UTILITIES AND REDID AND THE UTILITIES, WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS IN THE FRONT, NOT THE REAR.
'CAUSE THE REAR, ALL THE UTILITIES ARE AERIAL AND ALL, AND WE ARE INSIDE OF THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE SIDEWALK WAS PUT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET BY THE CITY WHEN THEY REDID ALL THE ROADS.
SO THEREFORE, THEY WOULD BE RIDICULOUS TO ASK FOR A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE STREET AND BE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD TO PUT A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE WATER METER ACROSS ALL THE OTHER STUFF IN THE FRONT, IN INSIDE THE UTILITY EASEMENT.
SO KEVIN, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WHAT IS THE SETBACK? IT WAS FIVE AND, AND SHOULD BE THREE.
THE NEW SETBACK THAT, THAT WAS ADOPTED WHEN THEY, THE CITY ADOPTED THE NEW SETBACK FOR THE SF TWO, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF WAXAHATCHEE IS FIVE AND FIVE.
IT'S FIVE FROM THE REAR AND FIVE FROM THE SIDE.
BUT WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE OLD INFIELD, IT WAS THREE AND THREE.
SO THAT THE, THAT'S WHAT APPLIES TO THE CONSTRUCTION IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT THE FIVE AND FIVE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[14. Consider recommendation of ZDC-150-2025]
UM, FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, PRECEDENCE, UH, TO DENY.ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
I WAS, I'M AGAINST THE DENIAL.
SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHO IS AGAINST THE MOTION? WHO IS AGAINST, YOU HAVE ONE MOTION THAT YOU MADE THE MOTION.
HE MADE THE MOTION TO DENY APPROVAL.
IS THERE SECOND FOR DENIAL? I SECONDED THE MOTION.
WHO'S IN AGREEMENT WITH DENYING THE MOTION? I MEAN, DENYING THE APPROVAL.
I DO HAVE A, SHE TOLD ME NOT TO VOTE, BUT I, YEAH, NO, I ALSO VOTE FOR MY MOTION.
AND WHO APPROVES THE MOTION? I APPROVE.
YOU HAVE BE A MOTION FOR THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO FAIL.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO VOTE THE YOURS, WHAT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR UP OR DOWN.
RIGHT? SO, SO IT'S FIVE TO TWO, RIGHT? IT'S FIVE TWO.
THE MOTION WAS APPROVED TO DENY THE PROJECT.
BUT THAT'S HOW IT WILL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, I, I THINK, I MEAN, IT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO NOT LOOK LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK WITH A REVISED PLAN TO, TO FIX THIS.
THAT'S ASSUMING, THAT'S ASSUMING COUNCIL.
I, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, AND I GUESS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DIDN'T STEP IN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY TOLD YOU GUYS, WHAT YOU NOT,
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BUT THE INFILL ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED YEARS AGO IN ALL THESE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE REASON I'M SPEAKING IS 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.THE INFILL ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED TO DO IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT WERE BUILT AT THE TIME WHEN THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT.
SO IF, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, WITHOUT CHECKING WHAT THEY WERE AT THE TIME, BUT IF SO, THREE FOOT LINES.
THEN IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO BE A THREE FOOT SETBACK IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ONLY, WHICH ARE THE OLD PARTS OF TOWN.
AND THEY DID THAT SO THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE UNIFORM AND THAT EVERYBODY WAS FAIR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I CAME UP TO SPEAK IS TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHETHER A LOT OF YOU GUYS BEING NEW ON HERE, IF ANYBODY'S EVER EXPLAINED THAT INFIELD ORDINANCE TO YOU.
AND, AND I'LL ADD TO THAT JUST TO NOTE THAT FOR, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, SF TWO AND SF THREE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE ZONING HISTORY HERE.
UH, FOR A NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, A SIDE SETBACK IN EITHER OF THOSE DISTRICTS, UH, IS, IS FIVE FEET.
SO THIS WAS GROUND UP, TOTALLY NEW COMING, COMING BEFORE YOU, UH, BEFORE IT'S BUILT, THAT THAT FIVE FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT WOULD, WOULD BE IN PLACE.
UH, TO COUNCILMAN WRIGHT'S POINT HERE, UH, RE UH, REMODELING AN EXISTING GARAGE THAT'S AT THREE FEET, UH, W WOULD'VE BEEN NO PROBLEM.
IT'S, IT'S THE DEMOLITION AND, AND RECONSTRUCTION THAT PULLS THEM INTO THAT CURRENT SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
YEAH, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
SO ON THAT, UM, IF I MAY, SURE.
UM, I TWO, I TWO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT MY ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.
SAME PROCESS AS MR. WHITEHEAD.
SO I WOULD SAY MR. TIDWELL TO GET, TO GET WITH HIM.
IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT'S IN AGREEMENT WITH A CHANGE, IF WE CAN SOMEHOW MAKE THE NEIGHBORS HAPPY, I I'M, I'M GOOD WITH, UH, YOU COMING BACK.
OBVIOUSLY COUNSEL CAN OVERRIDE OUR DECISION, BUT, BUT, UM, I, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT AGAIN, BUT I, I, I WOULD WANT TO, I WOULD WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO BE HAPPY WITH IT.
[15. Public Hearing on a request by Todd Baker, YMCA Metro Dallas for a Zoning Change from an Office (O) zoning district to Planned Development-Neighborhood Services (PD-NS) zoning district, for a Public Community Center use, located at 100 YMCA Drive, (Property ID 193929) - Owner: YMCA of Metro Dallas (ZDC-139-2025)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER 15, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY TODD BAKER, YMCA METRO DALLAS FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM AN OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, PD AND S ZONING DISTRICT FOR PUBLIC COMMUNITY CENTER USE.LOCATED AT 100 YMCA DRIVE PROPERTY ID 1 9 3 9 2 9.
OWNER YMCA OF METRO DALLAS ZDC 1 3 9 20 25.
AND WHO'S PRESENTING FOR US FROM STAFF? I'LL STAFF.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
IT'S, IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT.
SO, ZACH, BEFORE YOU START, MAY, SORRY I'M TALKING TOO MUCH TONIGHT.
UH, MADAM CHAIRMAN, UM, I SPOKE WITH, UH, COUNSEL, LEGAL COUNSEL BEFORE.
I DO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS A BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF THE YMCA AND EXTREMELY BIASED ABOUT THE PROJECT
UH, SO I AM GOING TO STEP OUT AND I'LL STEP BACK IN AFTER, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
ALRIGHT, ZACH, GIMME A SECOND AND WE WILL, YOU KEEP, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST TO RECAP, AGENDA ITEM 15 FOR ZDC 1 39 20 25.
IT'S GONNA BE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST FOR THE YMCA TO GO TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DISTRICT FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNITY CENTER USE.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN AN OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS OF THEIR EXPANSION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE THAT AREN'T QUITE ALLOWED IN THAT OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BUT ARE STILL APPROPRIATE TO THIS SITE.
SO THEY'RE COMING THROUGH WITH THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO ESTABLISH THAT APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE EXPANSION HERE.
THE SITE'S A LITTLE OVER 11 ACRES IN SIZE, SITUATED RIGHT THERE AT 100 YMCA DRIVE, UH, JUST OFF OF HIGHWAY 77.
THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS TO THE EXPANSION THAT, THAT I'LL BRING UP.
IT, IT'S NOT JUST AN OUTDOOR EXPANSION, BUT AN EXPANSION TO THE BUILDING AS WELL.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD ABOUT 21,000 SQUARE FEET TO THE BUILDING.
THE OUTDOOR EXPANSION IS GOING TO INCLUDE QUITE A BIT OF, OF COVERED AREA FOR SPORTS COURTS AND, AND ACTIVITY AREAS.
UH, THE TOTAL OUTDOOR SPACE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD BETWEEN SPORTS FIELDS AND, AND OTHER OUTDOOR AREAS COMES IN AT 82,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HERE IN A MOMENT.
ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD PARKING TO THE SITE.
THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 107 SPACES THERE, EXCUSE ME, 109 SPACES RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 107 SPACES, WHICH IS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM THEY CAN DO WHILE ALSO, UH, FITTING IN ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE
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ON THE SITE.THERE'S A FEW EXTRA USES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO ENTITLE VIA THE ZONING HERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, CONDUCTING ON THE SITE.
UH, ONE IS A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER, UH, PLAY FIELD, A PUBLIC PLAY FIELD OR STADIUM USE, AS WELL AS A SWIMMING POOL COMMERCIAL.
UH, THOSE AREN'T CURRENTLY LISTED IN JUST THE BASE OFFICE ZONING.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UH, GET, GET THOSE FACILITIES, UH, UP TO STUFF IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING AS WELL.
I DO WANT TO ADD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY WILL ACT ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING FOR, UH, ROADWAY IMPACT FEE WAIVER.
SO THIS COMMISSION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF THAT, BUT YOU WILL NOTICE IT IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S WHY I MENTION IT HERE ONTO THE SITE PLAN.
UH, WE CAN SEE IN GRAY HERE, UH, THIS BUILDING A, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ADDITION TO THE EXISTING YMCA BUILDING, AGAIN, ANOTHER 21,000 SQUARE FEET TO, UH, EXPAND THEIR PROGRAMMING THERE.
UH, THESE COVERED AREAS, PAVILION ONE AND TWO ARE, ARE GONNA BE THE, THE 29,000 SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY OF COVERED AREA, UH, PAVILION.
ONE IS GOING TO INCLUDE SOME SPORTS COURTS, QUITE A BIT OF SPORTS COURTS THERE.
UH, PAVILION TWO IS GONNA BE A, A VARIETY OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITY SPACES, INCLUDING SOME WORKOUT, UH, SPACES UNDER THERE, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, SOME, SOME STORAGE OF A, OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND ASSOCIATED, UM, UH, ACTIVITY GEAR FOR THOSE AREAS.
I'M GONNA SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN THAT MAY BE A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE COLOR PALETTE.
SO, UH, STARTING FROM, FROM RIGHT TO LEFT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, SOME OUTDOOR SPACE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING FOR, UH, OUTDOOR SPORTS FIELDS.
UH, ONE THING YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE IS, UH, PICKLEBALL AS WELL AS SOME, SOME, UH, FUTURE, UH, PICKLEBALL, POTENTIALLY TENNIS COURT AREAS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS INTERIOR PORTION OF THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE VIA 24 FOOT FIRE LAND FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THESE ARE, UH, AREAS THAT AREN'T GONNA BE ACCESSIBLE FOR COMMUTER VEHICLES.
THIS IS JUST FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.
IT, IT IS CONCRETE, SO A FIRE FIRETRUCK CAN GET BACK HERE.
UH, THESE ARE SPORTS COURTS, SO, UH, PEOPLE GET HURT UNFORTUNATELY, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TWIST OR BREAK THEIR ANKLE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT BACK THERE TO THOSE COURTS IF NEEDED.
SO THAT'S A BIG ADDITION THEY'VE ADDED TO THE SITE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A, A SIMILAR EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PAVILION TWO IN THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
THIS PARTICULARLY GEARED TOWARDS AMBULANCES.
SO IT IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 16 FEET WIDE.
UH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEY DO HAVE SPACE TO ENTER AND TURN AROUND, UH, AND CLEARANCE HEIGHT UNDER PAVILION ONE, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE EVEN MORE BASKETBALL COURTS HERE AS WELL.
UH, IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE UNDER PAVILION TWO.
AND IN THE OPEN AREA THERE IS GONNA BE SOME, UH, OUT OUTDOOR WORKOUT AREA PRIMARILY.
UH, AND FINALLY ON THE FAR, UH, LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SITE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE LARGER SPORTS FIELDS FOR, UH, FUTURE SOCCER USES.
FOR EXAMPLE, AROUND THE SITE AS A WHOLE, UH, YOU COULD SEE IN THIS LIGHTER GRAY, THEY'RE ADDING A WALKING TRAIL, UH, ALL THE WAY AROUND SO THAT YOU CAN CIRCUM NAVIGATE THE SITE ALONG THE, UH, SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THEY ARE EXTENDING THE PARKING THAT IS THERE STRAIGHT BACK TO THE, UM, ALLEY OR DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE FAR NORTH END SIDE OF THE SITE.
UH, THIS WILL NOT BE ON THE FAR NORTH END SIDE OF THE SITE, A A ACTUAL CONNECTION POINT.
IT IS JUST FOR EMERGENCY USES ONLY.
SO THERE WILL BE A, A, UH, CHAIN OR, OR A SMALL ROLLING GATE THAT, THAT PREVENTS COMMUTER VEHICLES FROM ENTERING AND EXITING ON, ON WHAT IS EFFECTIVELY AN ALLEY BACK HERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO GET TO THE SITE IF YMCA IS BLOCKED.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND UPFRONT, THEY'RE GOING TO DIFFERENTIATE THIS AREA WITH, UH, SOME ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF THE SPORTS FIELDS AND SOME PAVERS.
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE, THE GATHERING SPACE OF THE OUTDOOR FACILITY GETTING INTO THE ELEVATION OF FACADE PLAN.
THEY PROVIDED THAT FOR BOTH THE BUILDING EXPANSION, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN HERE.
UH, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN PLACE ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, PRIMARILY COMPRISED OF SOME ETHOS MATERIAL AND, AND, UH, METAL PANEL THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOT A MORE, UM, UH, MODERN LOOK, IF YOU WILL, MATCHING THE EXISTING BUILDING.
UH, THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED US THE PLANS WITH THOSE PAVILIONS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CLEAR HEIGHT AND, UH, THE, THE LOGO THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD ON THE SIDE OF, OF THE LARGER PAVILION.
THEY'VE GOT A SIGNAGE PLAN PARTICULARLY GEARED TOWARDS HIGHWAY 77 WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SIGNAGE UP FRONT.
SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO ADD A 28 FOOT MONUMENT SIGN THAT WOULD INCLUDE A STATIC YMC LOGO AND A DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD.
THAT'S EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE YMCA.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED AS A BILLBOARD FOR, FOR OFFSITE ADVERTISING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES THE, UH, LIGHTING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO THE SITE.
THERE IS GONNA BE OUTDOOR LIGHTING FOR, FOR THIS, UH, FACILITY, FOR THE OUTDOOR AREAS.
UH, THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN IS, UH, COMPLIANT WITH THE
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WAXAHATCHEE LIGHTING AND GLARE STANDARDS THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AS WELL.STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WHEN ISSUING PUBLIC NOTICES FOR THIS REQUEST.
AND WITH THAT IN MIND, WE'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING, UH, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE CONDITIONS AS WELL.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE, UM, STATISTICS ON MAX CAPACITY? I'M ACTUALLY GONNA DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT QUESTION.
THEY DO HAVE SOME PROGRAMMING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO, UM, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, NOT HAVING THE TYPICAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, BECAUSE ALL THE FACILITIES WON'T BE USED AT ONE TIME, BUT IF THERE IS EVER A BUSY TIME, DO PEOPLE EVER TRY TO PARK ON YMCA DRIVE AND DO WE HAVE SIGNS THERE THAT PROHIBIT IT BECAUSE OF THE FIRE STATION RIGHT THERE? I JUST, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I'VE EVER SEEN SIGNS LIKE THAT.
THERE, THERE, THERE'S NOT, UH, PARKING, NO PARKING SIGNS THERE, THERE SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS CERTAINLY ON THE TABLE IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE WITH, WITH THE EXPANSION.
UM, SO IT, IT'S ON THE TABLE IF NECESSARY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT.
WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? SURE.
UM, I'M A 1 0 6 GREEN OAK CIRCLE IS MY PUBLIC ADDRESS, BUT FOR THE, OBVIOUSLY THE LOCATION'S 100 YMCA DRIVE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
AND, UH, YEAH, MY NAME'S JOHN MCLAUGHLIN.
I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE Y AND FRANKLY, IT'S NICE TO BE HERE AFTER ABOUT TWO YEARS OF REALLY GRINDING WORK TO, TO GET THE PROPERTY SET FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE'RE ABOUT TWO YEARS, MORE THAN TWO YEARS INTO A FLOOD STUDY.
UM, MOST OF THE SITE PREP HAS BEEN DONE AND CONDUCTED AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO START ENACTING STRUCTURES.
AND JUST WANNA BE REAL CLEAR TOO, THAT WITH, UM, ABOUT JUST SHY OF 12 ACRES THAT THIS, THE PARCEL'S ON, WE'RE CONVERTING ABOUT EIGHT ACRES TO REALLY PUBLIC SPACE.
SO WHAT YOU SAW, THE OUT AREAS IS NOT MEMBERSHIP DRIVEN.
IT IS, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS, TRULY A PUBLIC PARK THAT WILL BE OPEN FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE, UH, REALLY A MELTING POT OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY.
AND, UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE, UH, A LOT OF IMPACT AND JUST, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THE, THROUGH AND AROUND THE FACILITY.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE BUILDING AS WELL, A LONG OVERDUE, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE PIT BULLS RUNNING THROUGH THE BUILDING, BUT WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF KIDS THAT HAVE RUN THROUGH THAT BUILDING THROUGH THE YEARS AND IS IN AND, AND DUE FOR A MAJOR RENOVATION.
AND, UH, I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE AT THE PLACE THAT WE CAN REALLY UPGRADE THE FACILITIES TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, UH, AT A MUCH GREATER LEVEL.
UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ONE QUESTION WAS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.
I DO HAVE WITH ME SOME MORE OF OUR EXPERTS.
OUR VP OF OPERATION, VP OF PROPERTIES IS HERE AS WELL AS OUR ARCHITECT THAT CAN ANSWER MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS IF SO, CHOOSE.
BUT I, I KNOW THE, THE QUESTION CAME ABOUT OCCUPANCY AND, AND HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT WAS JUST KIND OF BASED AROUND OKAY.
WHERE JENNY WAS GOING WITH THE PARKING.
'CAUSE I WAS STOMPED RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE CONCERN WAS FOR ME, ULTIMATELY.
AND WE DO, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, RECIPROCAL, RECIPROCAL PARKING AGREEMENTS WITH THE CHURCH MM-HMM
AND, AND WE DO HAVE THAT WITH, UM, WITH THE, THE CHIROPRACTIC CENTER.
UM, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THE Y IN THE SUMMER, THERE'S TIMES WHERE THERE IS NO PARKING.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE, THE ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON YMC DRIVE, SO THAT'S NOT BEEN AN ISSUE TO DATE.
UH, BUT I DO THINK SOME UPDATED SIGNAGE WOULD GO A LONG WAY.
AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CORRECT MYSELF ON THAT POINT.
WE, WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT THERE IS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS, UH, IN FRONT OF YMCA SOME NO PARKING SIGNS RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'D WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S STILL ADEQUATE FOR SURE.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING ANY OVER THERE, BUT, AND ZACH'S PRESENTATION GOT ME EXCITED TOO, AND I'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
IT'S, I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE Y HASN'T CHANGED MUCH SINCE I TOOK SWIM LESSONS THERE 35 YEARS AGO.
YEAH, IT WAS A TIME CAPSULE WHEN I CAME BACK 13 YEARS AGO AFTER GROWING UP THERE, SO YES, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT FEELING.
NOW, WHAT'S THE, UH, THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT? UH, WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL PROJECT FOR THAT? WELL, ESTIMATED COST RIGHT NOW, AND, UH, TODD CAN PROBABLY BACK ME UP ON THIS IS, IS AROUND 15 TO 16 MILLION TOTAL.
WE THINK THE, UH, THE PARK TO BE AROUND AROUND $5 MILLION.
AND, UM, THE BUILDING 11 TO 12, SO 15 TO 16 MILLION, UM, WITH SOME SCALE BACK IF NEEDED WITH THE PARK, UM, PARK.
WE ARE, WE ARE PROPOSED AND WE'VE RAISED TO DATE ABOUT 3.2 MILLION OF THE PARK PROJECT.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE READY TO ENACT THE MAJOR PARTS OF THE STRUCTURE.
SOME THINGS WE MAY SCALE BACK IF
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WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AND PHASE THOSE OUT FOR ANOTHER TIME.BUT THE BUILDING IS GONNA HAPPEN AS PROPOSED WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR ASSOCIATION OF METROPOLITAN DALLAS.
WE'RE STILL FUNDRAISING, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO HELP, YOU KNOW, TAKE A BITE OFF THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL TAKING MONEY.
SHAMELESS PLUG,
UH, BUT IT IS TRULY A PUBLIC FACING PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[16. Consider recommendation of ZDC-139-2025]
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH 1 39 DASH 2025, A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC COMMUNITY CENTER YMCA SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, SORRY, NOT INTERIM CITY MANAGER ANYMORE.JUST CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[17. Public Hearing on a request by Andrew Ruegg, Masterplan Consultants for a Zoning Change from a Future Development (FD) zoning district to Planned Development-Commercial (PD-C) zoning district for commercial and industrial uses, located at 3705 N US Highway 77, (Property ID185355) - Owner: NH Waxahachie LLC (ZDC-43-2025)]
17, AND WE'LL WAIT FOR MR. PORCH.YOU GOT SOME EXPLAINING TO THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
ANDREW RUIC, MASTER PLAN CONSULTANTS FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FD ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL PDCO ZONING DISTRICT, I'M SORRY, PDC ZONING DISTRICT FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, LOCATED AT 37 0 5 NORTH US HIGHWAY SEVEN SEVEN.
OWNER IS NH WAXAHATCHEE, L-L-C-Z-D-C 43 20 25.
ZACH, THANK YOU CHAIR FOR ZDC 43 20 25.
AS YOU NOTED, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GO FROM A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AT THIS LOCATION HERE, 37 0 5 NORTH US HIGHWAY 77.
THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE AND A HALF IN SIZE.
AND JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY.
IT IS HERE NORTH ON HIGHWAY 77.
UH, THE EXISTING WAREHOUSES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY WERE ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1985, PRE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY.
SO THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN 1998.
UH, AND AS SUCH, NO ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION FOR, UH, THE, THE BUILDING DESIGN OR THE PERMITTING WERE, WERE AVAILABLE, UH, TO, TO CITY STAFF.
SO THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UH, THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS A REMNANT OF THIS ANNEXATION, UH, PROPERTIES WHEN INITIALLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY ARE GIVEN OR ASSIGNED TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UH, THEY HAVE NOT COME THROUGH FOR A ZONING CHANGE SINCE ANNEXATION.
UH, SO COMING UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP HERE RECENTLY, THE OWNER, UH, IS LOOKING TO ENTITLE SOME USES THAT, UH, THAT THAT EXISTING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT, UH, DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE.
SO THEY'RE COMING THROUGH WITH THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, UH, AS PART OF THE REQUEST AT, AT THIS TIME AT LEAST, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
UH, WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS TO COME THROUGH AND IMPROVE THE EXISTING DRY VILE, UH, WHICH IS A, A, A NUMBER OF SURFACES AS YOU WILL RIGHT NOW.
IT, IT, IT'S, UH, A COMBINATION OF ASPHALT, SOME, UH, WHAT USED TO BE ASPHALT, SOME GRAVEL NOW, AND, AND CONCRETE.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO COME THROUGH AND, AND IMPROVE THAT TO CONCRETE AS WELL AS, UH, THEIR PARKING SPACES.
THOSE WOULD ALL BE CONCRETE AS WELL.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD A NEW DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UH, AS WELL AS A PERMANENT DUMPSTER SITE.
THERE'S SEVERAL SIGNS AND BILLBOARDS ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP AND REMOVE.
THEY, THEY ARE IN, IN ROUGH SHAPE CURRENTLY.
THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING TO ADD LANDSCAPING THAT'S EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, PARTICULARLY, IT'S GONNA BE CLUSTERED ALONG HIGHWAY 77, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME SCREENING FOR THE USES ON THE SITE THERE.
UH, ALSO ON THE SCREENING FRONT, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD A SIX FOOT CEDAR FENCE ALONG HIGHWAY 77 WITH A ROLLING GATE AND, AND NOX BOX FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.
THESE EXISTING BUILDINGS, UH, DON'T MEET THE TYPICAL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET, UH, RESPECTIVELY FROM THE SIDE AND REAR PROPERTY LINES.
SO, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ALLOW THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS TO STAY IN PLACE.
AND THE SIDE REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT, UH, REFLECT THAT SOME OF THE USES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT ARE NOT TRADITIONALLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT REPRESENT THE OWNER'S INTENT TO CONTINUE, UH, USING THESE AS MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL GEARED,
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UH, SITE.SO THEY WOULD INCLUDE ON A REPAIR MAJOR, UH, HEAVY MACHINERY EQUIPMENT, RENTER RENTAL OR SALES DATA CENTER, UH, HEAVY MANUFACTURING, INDOOR, UH, MACHINE WELDING SHOP, ET CETERA.
UM, SOME OF THOSE USES STAFF IS, IS CONCERNED, ARE, ARE A LITTLE TOO INTENSE EVEN FOR THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ON THE SITE, UH, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T KNOW, UH, THE, THE STATE OF THOSE BUILDINGS WITH NOT HAVING ANY OF THE ORIGINAL PERMITTING OR, OR INSPECTIONS DONE ON, ON THE BUILDING.
SO, UH, YOU, YOU'LL SEE THOSE CONCERNS REFLECTED IN, IN THE STAFF REPORT ALONG WITH SOME CONDITIONS TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, I'M GONNA PULL UP THE SITE PLAN SO WE CAN SEE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS SPECIFICALLY.
HERE'S THE DRIVE AISLE WE'RE MENTIONING.
THAT IS GONNA BE A 24 FOOT FIRE LANE WITH A HAMMERHEAD TURNAROUND, UH, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY PRESENT.
SO THAT IS A SITE IMPROVEMENT ALONG WITH THE PARKING SPACES.
UH, THE PARKING THAT'S PROPOSED, UH, IS NOT, UM, SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS ALL THE USES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ALLOWED UNDER THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS YOU'LL SEE IS THAT IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR USE, A, A RESTAURANT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT REQUIRES MORE PARKING, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH, UH, FOR, UH, ANOTHER SITE PLAN APPROVAL, UH, TO ADD THAT PARKING TO THE SITE HERE.
JUST A QUICK LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THAT LANDSCAPING CLUSTERED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO HELP WITH SCREENING OF THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR, OR OPPOSITION FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS IT RELATES PARTICULARLY TO THE ALLOWABLE USES.
I I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY.
THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE.
UH, SO STAFF'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS TO, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE ALLOWABLE USES AND THE APPLICANT'S
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.
UH, THIRTY THREE THIRTY THREE WELLBORN IN DALLAS, UH, HERE WITH MASTER PLAN CONSULTANTS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS.
AND, UH, APPRECIATE ZACH'S PRESENTATION.
HE ESSENTIALLY COVERED THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS MAKE THIS A, A USABLE SITE FOR THE NEW OWNERSHIP GROUP.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS IN THE BACKGROUND.
WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING ZONING NORTH AND SOUTH OF HERE.
I THINK ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S LI ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SOUTH SIDE'S COMMERCIAL.
SO, SO HOW DO WE KIND OF MEND THOSE TWO THINGS? WE KNOW IT'S, WE WANT TO USE THE EXISTING WAREHOUSES, AND REALLY THE INTENT IS WHATEVER USE THAT IT IS, WE WANT IT TO BE AN INDOOR USE.
WE DON'T WANT ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE, ANY TRACTORS STORED OUT ON THE LOT.
UM, SO IN REVIEWING THE USES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT AND MOST OF OUR USES, UH, OR I GUESS MOST OF THE USES THAT WERE REQUESTED WERE IN THE C COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
WE REQUESTED A COUPLE EXTRA USES, SAW THE STAFF REPORT, TOOK O UH, TOOK OUT SOME OF THE USES THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T THINK WERE APPROPRIATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT, UH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, UM, FOR HEAVY MANUFACTURING, FULLY INDOOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A DEAL BREAKER FOR US BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WOULD BE, UM, IN ANOTHER APPROPRIATE USE BECAUSE IT IS HOUSED INDOOR.
UH, WE HAD A PREVIOUS, JUST, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROFIT PROCESS, HAD A PREVIOUS, UH, POTENTIAL TENANT THAT WOULD'VE FALLEN UNDER THIS USE.
YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE SEEM LIKE THAT THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT ANYMORE FOR THEM.
UH, HAVE A NEW TENANT IN MIND.
BUT WE KNOW WE JUST WANT TO TRY AND KEEP THAT FLEXIBILITY OPEN FOR, UH, USING THIS SITE, MAKING IT A USABLE SITE SINCE IT IS IN THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT TO REZONE IT TO THE PD, UH, FOR C COMMERCIAL USES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PETE, ZACH TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON SITES.
WE WANNA MAKE IT LOOK NICE, MAKE IT USABLE, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY.
SO I ALSO HAVE, UH, JOHN NYLAND HERE WITH THE OWNERSHIP GROUP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU MAY DO SO NOW.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[18. Consider recommendation of ZDC-43-2025]
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 43, UH, DASH 2025, A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FD DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMERCIAL PDC DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.[01:15:01]
AND A SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[19. Public Hearing on a request by Dennis Church, Minto Communities Texas, LLC, for a Zoning Change from Planned Development-Mixed Use Residential (PD-MUR), Single Family-1 (SF-1), Future Development (FD), and General Retail (GR) zoning districts to a Planned Development (PD) zoning district, located at 300 Brookside Road (Property ID’s 179468, 179534, 182520, 187960, 189323, 189326, 189333, 189336, 192306, 193815, 193822, 193823, 234203, 263786, 264568, 303651, 303652) – Owners: Walton Texas LP, United Presbyterian Homes, William & Leanne Kelley (ZDC-232-2024)]
19, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DENNIS CHURCH.MINTO COMMUNITIES TEXAS, LLC FOR ZONING, CHANGE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MIXED USE, RESIDENTIAL PD MUR, SINGLE FAMILY DASH ONE SF ONE, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FD AND GENERAL RETAIL GR ZONING DISTRICTS TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 300 BROOKSIDE ROAD.
PROPERTY IDS, THERE ARE SEVERAL.
1 7 9, 4, 6, 8, 1, 7, 9, 5, 3, 4, 1, 8, 2 5, 2, 0, 1.
1, 8, 9, 3, 2, 3, 1, 8, 9, 3, 2, 6, 1, 8, 9, 3, 3, 3, 1, 8, 9, 3, 3, 6, 1, 9, 2, 3, 0, 6 1.
4, 2 0 3 2 6 3 7, 8 6 2 6 4, 5, 6.
8, 3 0 3 6, 5 1 AND 3 0 3 6 5.
TWO OWNERS, WALTON, TEXAS LP, UNITED PRESBYTERIAN HOMES, WILLIAM AND LEANNE, KELLY, ZDC 2 3 2 20 24.
UH, AGENDA NINE, ITEM 19 FOR ZDC 2 32.
2024, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST FOR A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY UNDER THE NAME OF THE KEMP TRACT.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE, WE'VE HAD A, A FEW PRESENTATIONS ON BEFORE.
SO I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF AND, AND JUST RECAP, UH, SOME OF THE KEY POINTS TO CONSIDER.
AND, AND I'LL NOTE SINCE THE LAST MEETING, UH, STAFF HAS, UH, HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT AS, AS RECENTLY TODAY TO WORK THROUGH.
UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UH, THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
UH, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS ON, ON SEVERAL ITEMS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY SETBACK STANDARDS AND, AND MIXED USE, UH, UH, STANDARDS AS WELL.
UH, IN THAT SAME VEIN, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO, TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, WERE, WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY HERE, UH, WITH THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT HAVE RESULTED IN, IN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR, OR A CASCADING EFFECT OF, OF CHANGES THAT THAT PROVIDED, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
SO YOU WILL SEE THAT THE CONDITION SECTION INCLUDES, UH, MORE CONDITIONS THAN THE LAST SUBMITTAL.
SO, UH, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE RESOLVED, UH, WE, WE ENDED UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, CONDITIONS THAT, THAT YOU'LL NOTE LATER IN THE REPORT.
UH, JUST TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS THERE.
UH, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER 3,100 ACRES HERE IT IS EVERYTHING, UH, WEST OF 35, UH, BOUND BY THIS SHAPE ON THE SCREEN ON THE RIGHT HERE.
UH, GETTING INTO A BIT OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, AND, AND THE STATISTICS FOR THE CASE, THERE IS A TOTAL OF 13,270 DWELLING UNITS, UH, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A MAXIMUM ON THE SITE, OF WHICH 11,880 WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS WITH THE REMAINDER BEING, UH, MULTIFAMILY IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
UH, THE PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ARE GONNA BE DIVIDED BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY, UH, TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND ACTIVE ADULT TO THE SOUTH.
THERE'S AN EXPECTED POPULATION OF A LITTLE OVER 33,000 PEOPLE, UH, AT BUILD OUT THAT WOULD BE PRESENT.
THE OVERALL DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WORKS OUT TO 4.18.
UH, THE LARGEST REQUIRED, UH, UH, LOT THERE, THERE HAS BEEN AN UPDATE FROM 6,000 THAT IS NOW OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A MOMENT.
UH, WITH THE SMALLEST REMAINING AT 2,250 SQUARE FEET.
AS FAR AS MIXED USE IS CONCERNED, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING 133.1 ACRES OF MIXED USE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN RED AS FAR AS OPEN SPACE, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT A SEPARATE EXHIBIT IN A MOMENT, BUT OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING SPECIALTY PARKS, TRADITIONAL AMENITY CENTERS, UH, AND, AND GENERAL OPEN SPACE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A PARK IS GONNA COME IN AT, AT 400 ACRES.
UH, THE FAR WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN GRAY OR BROWN HERE IS GONNA BE FLEX RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHAT THIS DISTRICT IS, UH, GOING TO ESTABLISH IS BEFORE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE IT IN EITHER THAT ACTIVE ADULT 55 PLUS CATEGORY OR THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY.
THE LOT TYPES, THEY HAVE ADDED THREE ADDITIONAL LOT TYPES SINCE THE, UH, LAST SUBMITTAL, UH, PRIMARILY GEARED TOWARDS LARGER, UH, LOT SIZES.
THEY, THEY HEARD THAT CONCERN.
SO GOING UP TO A LITTLE OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, THAT WORKS OUT TO A QUARTER OF AN ACRE.
THAT IS THE, UH, A STATE LOT SIZE.
UM, SO STEPH STILL HAS CONCERN, UH, GENERALLY WITH, WITH THE NUMBER OF THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDED.
UM, I WON'T GET INTO THAT IN TOO MUCH DETAIL.
IT IS COVERED IN, IN THE REPORT, UH, A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN.
UH, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THE APPLICANT HAS COME UP ON.
UM, GETTING INTO THE HOME DESIGN, UH, THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE, HAVE NOT CHANGED, UH, EXCEPT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED SOME STIPULATIONS THAT THE ADDITIONAL TIERS OF, UH, ARCHITECTURAL
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ELEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE ADDED, UH, ARE, ARE NO LONGER, UH, SUGGESTIONS, UH, BUT, BUT REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, UH, TIER TWO AND THREE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS FOR EACH HOME.THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES THAT WAS JUST THE HILL COUNTRY REFERENCED.
AS FAR AS ANTI MONOTONY, UH, CONCERNS ARE, ARE, ARE PRESENT STILL.
UH, THEY ARE, UH, LOOKING TO REDUCE THE, UH, CITY'S ANTI OR LOT SKIP, I SHOULD SAY, UH, METRICS TO JUST SKIP EVERY OTHER LOT, AS YOU CAN SEE REPRESENTED BY THIS EXHIBIT HERE.
UH, SO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT YOU SAW.
UH, THIS IS THE OPEN SPACE EXHIBIT HERE.
UH, AGAIN, UH, MINIMUM TOTAL OF 400 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE DIVIDED BETWEEN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, GENERAL OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS, AS WELL AS SOME SPECIALTY PARKS AND REGIONAL PARKS THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
UH, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, REMAINS UNCHANGED EXCEPT FOR SOME SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG 1446 AND 8 75.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE, UH, LATEST SUBMITTAL BY THE APPLICANT THAT WAS PROVIDED IN NOVEMBER DID INCLUDE AN UPDATE TO THE TIA, UH, THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF.
UM, FROM, UH, OUR POINT OF VIEW, WE, WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE CONCEPTUAL NATURE OF THAT TIA AND THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT ARE, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR BROOKSIDE DRIVE, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UH, AS WELL AS 8 75 AND 1446, UM, BEING, UH, NOT SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE CONCERNS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING ARE GENERALLY STILL PRESENT.
AS A REMINDER, THE BROOKSIDE ROAD, UH, EXTENSION IS LOOKING TO RECONFIGURE THE ENTRY TO THE SITE.
SO COMING OFF OF THE BRIDGE INSTEAD OF THE, UH, QUADRANT OF, OF ROADS THAT'S THERE NOW, WEST OF I 35, THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXTEND, UH, THIS DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE DIRECTLY INTO THE SITE, UH, AND TIE IN THE EXISTING BROOKSIDE ROAD, ESSENTIALLY AS A T TO THAT NEW THOROUGHFARE BEHIND BROOKSIDE ROAD TO THE RESIDENTIAL PHASE TO THE SOUTH.
THEY WOULD BE HAVING AN EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CONNECTED TO THEIR DRIVEWAY SO THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND ON THIS THOROUGHFARE JUST TO GET TO THE RESIDENCE NEXT DOOR.
THEY'RE ALSO STILL MAINTAINING THE BUFFERS ON ALL SIDES OF BROOKSIDE ROAD AND PROVIDING FOR ACCESS TO THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN STILL ACCESS BROOKSIDE ROAD, UH, THROUGH WHAT IS CURRENTLY AN EASEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AS FAR AS SCREENING IS CONCERNED, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, MODIFIED THE SCREENING PLAN HERE TO INCLUDE SCREENING TYPE THREE.
UH, THIS IS A SCREENING THAT IN SOME RESPECTS WOULD, UH, REPLACE THE, UH, CURRENT CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE, UH, SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ON 1446 AND 8 75.
THAT'S A CONCERN WE'VE, WE'VE BROUGHT UP TO THE APPLICANT.
UH, BUT THIS PROPOSAL HERE, UH, REPLACES THE EVERYTHING IN IN BLUE AS FAR AS SCREENING IS CONCERNED WITH A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UH, THAT IS, UH, A MODIFIED VERSION OF SCREENING TYPE ONE AND TWO, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN HERE, UH, INCLUDING A, A BERM AGAIN AND, AND SOME VEGETATED LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UH, TREES AND, AND ORNAMENTAL TREES AT, AT REGULAR INTERVALS.
THE SIGNAGE PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED.
THEY ARE STILL LOOKING AT SOME, UH, PRIMARY AMENITY, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNAGE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY ON BROOKSIDE ROAD WITH SOME SECONDARY, UH, SMALLER SIGNAGE SCATTERED AT, AT MAJOR POINTS OR, OR KEY INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
THIS IS JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SIGNAGE.
THERE IS NOT PARTICULAR BRANDING OR, OR DESIGN THAT'S PREPARED EITHER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THESE SIGNS HERE, BUT THAT PRIMARY ENTRY SIGN ON 35 COULD REACH UP TO 60 FEET TALL, UH, AND EXTEND ABOUT 80 FEET WIDE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE THERE.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, STAFF, YOU KNOW, IS, IS GENERALLY STILL CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE CONCEPTUAL NATURE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
WE, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, LAST MEETING, UH, THAT, THAT THE WRITTEN STANDARDS ARE, ARE WHAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCEABLE AND, AND THEY NEED TO ALIGN BOTH WITH THE COMMITMENT OF THE APPLICANT AND, AND THE REPRESENTATIVE AND, AND CONCEPT PLANS THAT, THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT, THAT THE STANDARDS ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY DESCRIPTIVE TO BE BINDING, UH, OR TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND BUILD OUT.
UH, SO THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT ARE, ARE BASED ON THAT AND, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UH, ESTABLISH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SOME GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE THAT SITE PLANS THAT COME THROUGH FOR, UH, MIXED USE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE VISIONARY, UH, OR ILLUSTRATIVE EXHIBITS THAT HAVE PRESENTED, BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY.
SO, UH, FOR ITEMS LIKE SITE PLANS, RIOT, ESTABLISHING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AS THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR THOSE ITEMS, UH, THIS IS PROPOSED TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT, UH, VOTE ON A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, JUST THE ZONING OF THE CASE.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO BRING UP, BECAUSE SOME OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND EXTERIOR
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DESIGN, ARE INCLUDED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL BE ENFORCEABLE.
SO A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, OR MMD, JUST AS A REMINDER, IT'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT THAT ACTS AS A, UH, REIMBURSEMENT MECHANISM FOR, UH, FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO THE SITE.
SO ROADS, WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, THE DISTRICT WILL IMPLEMENT AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT RATE THAT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GONNA REALIZE, UH, EVERY YEAR AS ESSENTIALLY A A, AN EXTRA LINE ON THEIR, ON THEIR TAX BILL, THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A 72 CENT RATE, UH, JUST BY WAY OF COMPARISON, THE CITY'S CURRENT TAX RATE IS 61 CENTS.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 72 CENT EFFECTIVELY TAX RATE RIGHT ON THAT BILL, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY'S ADOPTED TAX RATE.
UM, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON, ON STAFF CONCERNS, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH RE REGARDS TO ANTI MONOTONY STANDARDS, LOT MIX PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND DEDICATION, AS WELL AS THE SITE PLAN AND, AND PERMITTING APPROVAL PROCESS AND, AND THE AMENDMENT PROCESS FOR THE PD.
UH, SO WE'RE AVAILABLE TO GO THROUGH THOSE IN DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, UM, THERE ARE, WE, WE HAVE HEARD THIS NOW A NUMBER OF TIMES AND EVERY TIME WE'VE HEARD IT, THE LIST OF CONDITIONS KEEPS GETTING LONGER.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE, THERE ARE NOW 75 CONDITIONS AS A PER, UH, COMPARED TO, UH, I BELIEVE 65, UH, WITH THE LAST REPORT YOU SAW, UH, AGAIN, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONDITIONS THAT THEY'VE RESOLVED AND, AND SUBMITTALS THAT TOOK PLACE AFTER THE LAST MEETING.
UH, HOWEVER, MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY PROVIDED, AS WELL AS THE TIA, UH, THOSE CHANGES AFTER REVIEW HAVE RESULTED IN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, INFORMATION THAT STAFF DIDN'T HAVE AVAILABLE TO CONSIDER PREVIOUSLY.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM, FROM, FROM THE CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
SO ARE, ARE THERE STILL 75 CONCERNS? IS THAT, IS THAT ANOTHER, THERE ARE STILL 75 CONCERNS.
75 CONCERNS STILL, IT'S EVEN MORE NOW THAN IT WAS LAST TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES, MA'AM.
RICHARD ROSER FOR, UH, 2 0 8 KATY LAKE HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE STAFF, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU KNOW, STAFF THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING OR TRIED TO RESPOND OR TRIED TO WORK IN WITH THE, WITH THE ISSUES, BUT, AND I DON'T QUITE HONESTLY BELIEVE THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S NOT 75 'CAUSE WE AGREED, WE WENT THROUGH ABOUT, WE WENT FOR FOUR HOURS TODAY AND WENT THROUGH ABOUT 30 OF THE, OF THE 70 AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY HALF OF THOSE.
THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST AGREEMENT THAT YEAH, WE'LL AGREE TO THAT, WE AGREE TO THAT, WE'D AGREE TO THAT, BUT WE JUST COULDN'T GET THERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TIME CLOCK IS AGAINST US.
UH, THERE'S JUST A LOT TO GO THROUGH A BIG DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE WITH STAFF, BUT WE NEVER HAD THAT INTENTION, NEVER WANTED TO BE IN THAT PLACE.
WE WANNA WORK WITH 'EM, WE WANT WORK WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THIS DEVELOPER IS A, UH, TOPNOTCH DEVELOPER.
THERE'S NOT VERY MANY COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT COULD DO A 3,200 ACRE DEVELOPMENT WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INFRASTRUCTURE INVOLVED IN IT, UH, THAT COULD PULL THIS PROJECT OFF.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COMPANY HERE THAT CAN DO THAT.
BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE STAFF AND, AND TO YOU ALL AND AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, UH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND JUST YOU, IF YOU GOT ANYTHING TO QUESTIONS OF US, WE'LL TRY TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMENTS? I'VE GOT ONE.
UM, SO THERE'S 75 CONDITIONS AT LEAST IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE REVIEWING TONIGHT.
SO IF WE WERE TO HYPOTHETICALLY APPROVE THIS WITH ALL 75 CONDITIONS AS PART OF THE APPROVAL AND IT GOES TO COUNSEL AND THEY HYPOTHETICALLY APPROVED IT WITH ALL 75, COULD Y'ALL ABIDE BY ALL 75 AND COMMIT TO THAT? BEFORE YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD? I'M SORRY.
UH, BRIAN KALE, 89 39 STEEL FIELD ROAD, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA.
WHAT GIVES YOU THE BIGGEST HEARTBURN? I MEAN, I'M NOT LOOKING TO GO THROUGH ALL 75 OF THESE.
UM, ACTUALLY YOU'LL BE OKAY WITH IT.
UM, UH, THE MONOTONY STANDARDS ARE A PROBLEM FOR US.
UM, THE, UM, THE EVERY OTHER HOUSE NOT HAVING THE SAME DESIGN, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S DUMBING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YES, THAT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S,
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THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.'CAUSE IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT'S IT.
UM, AND THEN A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE A PROBLEM ACTUALLY REFER TO SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING ACTION ON, WHICH IS THE DA AND, AND THE MMD, UM, WE'RE MAKING TRACTION ON THOSE THINGS.
UM, BUT AS THEY SIT RIGHT NOW, IT'S, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
SO, AND YEAH, I DID, I DID WANNA CLARIFY THAT WITH STAFF.
SO WE'RE CONSIDERING THE ZONING AND THE PD STANDARDS, NOT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? CORRECT.
LET ME, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE MORE.
SO THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL COMMERCIAL ACREAGE, UM, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL IS NEEDED OUT THERE.
WE'VE STUDIED IT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S ASKING FOR QUITE A BIT MORE.
UM, UH, AND THEN SOME OF THE SPECIFIC DENSITY QUESTIONS ON HOW IT GETS APPLIED.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WE AGREE ACTUALLY ON THE DENSITY AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THE, THE MEANS OF MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, BELTS AND SUSPENDERS, THAT YOU CAN'T GET OUTSIDE THAT DENSITY.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE, UH, SOME CHALLENGES ON MAKING SURE THAT IT GETS PROCESSED CORRECTLY.
UH, TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON.
UM, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THE WAY YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU END UP WITH THAT TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG PARTS AND, AND THOSE COUPLE OF THINGS DO TURN INTO, YEAH, 70 COMMENTS, YOU KNOW.
SO, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE, ARE DUPLICATES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PD AND THE DA, IT'S THE SAME COMMENT AND YOU KNOW, SO SURE.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT TRULY 75, BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? KATHY'S COMING, OF COURSE, SHE DIDN'T REALIZE WHEN SHE'S, AND I REALLY WAS NOT PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT REALLY AND TRULY.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT YOU TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF PICTURES BACK OVER HERE FOR ME PLEASE.
'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SOMETHING.
AND FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS KATHY CAEL.
AND IF YOU NOTICE, THERE'S 12 PEOPLE OR 12 THINGS THAT ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT AND ONLY TWO FOR IT.
AND SO, I MEAN THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THESE.
KATHY, DO YOU REALIZE YOU'RE WINNING RIGHT NOW? OKAY, BUT I STILL WANNA POINT SOMETHING.
AND I'M ALREADY, PLEASE FORGIVE.
OH, BELIEVE ME, I CAN SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH TO HERE.
YEAH, SO, SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS MY HOUSE.
AND YOU WANNA PUT A DRUG, AN ENTRANCE ROAD IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE RIGHT THERE.
AND ALL OF THIS OVER HERE IS RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WILL BE ALL OF THIS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 AND 40 YEARS.
AND THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE IS, IS UNACCEPTABLE.
KATHY, WE, AND NOT ONLY THAT, HEY, DINNER, WE REALLY DO HAVE TO HAVE YOU SPEAK TO THE MIC SO IT CAN BE RECORDED.
OKAY? SO WE JUST GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE RECORD, OKAY? NOT ONLY IS THAT UNACCEPTABLE, BUT THAT IS ON A WATERCOURSE RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
THERE IS A POND THERE THAT YOU WANNA COVER UP, BUT YOU CANNOT DO.
THE STATE OF TEXAS OWNS THAT WATER.
IF YOU LOOK AT A, A AERIAL MAP, YOU CAN SEE THE WATERCOURSE.
YOU CAN'T PUT ROADS AND COVER UP EVERYTHING WITH CONCRETE AND STUFF ON A WATERCOURSE.
AND IF, IF I CAN'T CONVINCE 'EM HERE, THEN I'LL GO TO AUSTIN AND CONVINCE 'EM ABOUT THE WATER THERE AND DON'T THINK I CAN'T DO THAT.
SO JUST I'M THROUGH AND AREN'T YOU GLAD? THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.
OH, WELL PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I DIDN'T GET NOTICED OF THIS PROJECT, BUT BESIDES THE NAYS, I PROBABLY OWN AS MUCH COUNTRY THAT BORDERS THIS PROJECT AS ANYBODY IN IN TOWN.
UM, AND I SURE DON'T WANNA SEE A LOT OF ROOFTOPS FROM MY VIEW, BUT I'M NOT NAIVE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT YOU LAY DOWN IN FRONT OF, ON THE TRACKS AND TRY
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TO STOP THE TRAIN.AND I, I THINK THESE GUYS ARE AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET FOR DEVELOPMENT THIS BIG.
'CAUSE IF WE DON'T USE SOMEBODY LIKE THIS, THEY'RE GONNA CHOP THAT PLACE UP AND YOU'RE GONNA GET 30 DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS WITH 30 DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WISE FOR THE CITY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, FIRST MS. CASE SAID IT'S 12 AGAINST THREE, IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT ARE YOU COUNTING US AS A THREE? THAT'S WHAT THEY JUST HAVE IT UP THERE.
I'M JUST SAYING, ARE YOU COUNTING US? I'M NOT COUNTING YOU.
I SPENT SIX YEARS ON THE ACHI UH, SCHOOL BOARD.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS DID WHEN WE'RE GONNA BUILD A NEW SCHOOL IS WE WENT AND LOOKED AT OTHER SCHOOLS BEFORE WE MADE DECISIONS TO BRING IT TO WAXAHATCHEE TO BUILD IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
MY QUESTION IS, HAS ANYBODY FROM THE CITY TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO GO DOWN TO FLORIDA AND LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY THAT MINTO HAS BUILT? THAT'S A YES OR NO ANSWER.
NO, WE HAVEN'T, BUT WE'VE GONE TO ARLINGTON AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IN A, LIKE ARE IN ARLINGTON, TEXAS? YES, SIR.
IT'S NOT BUILT BY MINTO, BUT IT'S A LIKE, OKAY.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THOUGH, IT'S A LIKE COMPARISON.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT ON OUR OWN DIME? I'M SORRY? DO YOU SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT ON OUR OWN? NOT, WELL, I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL BOARD
I HAVE WORKED FOR W-G-I-S-D, I HAVE VISITED A LOT OF SCHOOLS THAT IS TAKING A BUS TO PLANO THAT'S NOT GOING TO FLORIDA.
MY, WE WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS JUST AS YOU WERE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I'M NOT PAYING TO GO TO FLORIDA TO LOOK AT THIS.
I'M NOT ASKING THE P AND Z TO PAY FOR ANYTHING MYSELF AM SAYING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT TO EVER COME TO WAXAHATCHEE.
WOULD EVERYBODY AGREE? 33,000 IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THAT THE LARGEST? THAT'S THE LARGEST.
SOUNDS LIKE, DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SEND THREE OF OUR OFFICIALS TO VISIT FLORIDA? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE LOCAL TAXPAYERS WOULD WANT THAT.
I DON'T AS A LOCAL TAXPAYER? AS A LOCAL TAXPAYER, I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO OKAY.
FOR THEM TO TRAVEL TO FLORIDA? NO.
I THINK THE BEST, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A MEETING OF THE MINES.
MR. BROOKS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO FLORIDA? NOT REALLY.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PICTURES.
THERE ARE EXTENSIVE ABOUT PICTURES.
PICTURES DON'T, PICTURES ARE NOT REAL LIFE.
NOW I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SOLD ON THE WAY MINTO HAS THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE CITY IS THAT 1446 NEEDS TO BE THE EXIT OUT BEFORE 8 75.
8 75 IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE LOCATION.
YOU GOT THE RAILROAD TRACKS DEAD ENDS INTO BUSINESS 2 87, YOU GOT THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
SO I THINK THERE'S A, THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT MINTO COULD MAKE.
I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT.
KIND OF SOMETHING ELSE KIND OF JUST KIND OF SHOCKED ME.
WAS JUST 65 OPPOSITION OR OBJECTIONS AND NOW IT'S 75 IS NEXT TIME IT'S GONNA BE 85.
I THINK IT DEPENDS ON IF STAFF HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION THEY'VE REQUESTED TO ANALYZE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THIS LAST TIME AND I THINK THEY RECENTLY GOT IT, WHICH INCREASED THE NUMBER IS THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT, DID IT INCREASE THE NUMBER? IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME DOCUMENTS EVERY TIME AND JUST ADDING TO THEIR LIST.
THEY'RE GETTING REVISED DOCUMENTS AND MAKING THEIR ASSESSMENT BASED ON THAT.
HAS THERE BEEN PROGRESS IN THE MEETINGS? WAS THERE PROGRESS TODAY? NONE OF US WERE IN THOSE MEETINGS.
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THERE'S, UH, MULTIPLE, UH, COMMENTS, UM, IN, IN THE TEENS.UH, I BELIEVE THAT, THAT WERE RESOLVED COMPLETELY FROM THE LAST, UH, PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAD HERE TODAY.
UH, SO THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST OF CONDITIONS MM-HMM
UH, IT, IT WAS AT THE SAME TIME IN, IN REVISING THE STANDARDS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONDITIONS AND, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS OF STAFF THAT THEY INTRODUCED ADDITIONAL REVISIONS, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, THAT RESULTED IN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UH, THEY WERE ITEMS THAT WE HADN'T SEEN BEFORE AND, AND THUS COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
SO, UH, IT'S BASED ON THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECEIVE IS IS WHAT OUR COMMENTS ARE ON.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
ANYBODY GOT ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON 77 WITH BJ'S COMING? SAM'S COMING THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX? I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
I SAID I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
I'M ASKING THE P AND Z IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS.
I THINK SOME IF THEY'VE BEEN BROUGHT TO US VOICE, I'M SORRY, VOICE.
IF THOSE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO US THEN WE'VE RAISED OUR CONCERNS AT THAT TIME.
SO Y'ALL ARE ALL HAPPY WITH IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING IT
AND WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE FIVE MINUTES YEP.
WELL AUDIENCE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HI, TONY TOVAR, 4 1 5 BROOKSIDE RED.
UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF RE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I FULL, I HAVE FULL FAITH.
MY APOLOGIES THAT I GET CLOSER.
I HAVE FULL FAITH IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND ITS STAFF WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO UPHOLD OUR STANDARDS.
I HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOW, I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOW THAT WAX WAXAHATCHEE DESERVES DEVELOPERS WHO VALUE THOSE STANDARDS AS MUCH AS WE DO.
UM, I AM PROUD OF THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THAT REASON.
I RECOGNIZE THE HESITATION OF THIS PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME BY STAFF, NOT BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS UNWELCOMED.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT UNWELCOMED, BUT BECAUSE THIS PROPOSAL ISN'T READY, I SINCERELY HOPE MENTOS CONTINUES DEEPER DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PLANNING STAFFER TO FULLY FLESH OUT A VERSION THAT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AND THAT GROWS IN A WAY THAT FEELS NATURAL AND RIGHT FOR WAXAHATCHEE.
IF THEY STAY, UH, AS IN, IF THEY STAY, CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN 2026, GIVES US THE TIME AND THE, UH, TO REALLY BRING BACK SOMETHING MUCH STRONGER OR YOU GUYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMETHING MUCH STRONGER.
IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAY, THEN THEY WILL HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES UNWORTHY OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY'S APPROVAL OF SOMETHING SUCH, UH, THIS SIGNIFICANT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING THE LONG-TERM HEALTH AND CHARACTER OF OUR CITY.
UM, I LIVE AT 2 3 8 1 WEST MAIN STREET, MIDLOTHIAN.
UM, I GREW UP IN RED OAK MY WHOLE LIFE AND MY SISTER AND MY, UH, HER HUSBAND HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY, UM, BY BOY FEED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WAXAHATCHEE.
AND, UM, I MOVED TO CALIFORNIA, CAME BACK AND IT'S BEEN ABOUT 15 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN HOW THE CITY HAS GROWN, BUT IT'S ALSO HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER BEING AT A MEETING LIKE THIS OR SEEING THIS PLANNING.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW JUST AT A QUICK GLANCE FROM THE, THE, THE PICTURES WAS, UM, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA, YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE LIFESTYLE OUT THERE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WHEN I SAW THE PARKS PART OF THIS AND THERE'S AS MUCH RESIDENTIAL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT'S IN ONE AREA.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF, AGAIN, WE WENT SO FAST IF THE HOMES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPREAD OUT, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT BRINGING A COMMUNITY TOGETHER THROUGH ACTIVE LIFESTYLE IS IMPORTANT.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MANY PARKS AROUND, JUST NOT IN THIS WAXAHATCHEE AREA, BUT IN RED OAK WHERE I GREW UP OR THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UM, AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANSION OF THAT.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING IN FAMILIES AND UM, THE TREE LINE THAT I ALSO SAW ON THERE TO TRY TO SEPARATE SOME OF THIS, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KEEP VEGETATION ALIVE OUT HERE IN TEXAS.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT WILL THEN FALL BACK ON THE CITY.
UM, IT'D ALSO BE NICE TO, I LOVE WATER.
FIGURING OUT A WAY TO BRING WATER, PE UM, WATER BRINGS PEACE, WATER BRINGS COMMUNITY AGAIN, AROUND THOSE PARKS.
THERE'S NOT MUCH AROUND HERE,
AND I DO KNOW THAT IT'S COSTLY TO HAVE THAT.
UM, BUT CONSIDERING THERE IS THE WAXAHATCHEE CREEK, UM, I JUST, I'VE NEVER HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE IN A WHILE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THAT REALLY LOOKS, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THE CITY COULD REALLY, UM, WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS LIKE THIS, MAYBE DIVE INTO A
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LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT TO EXPAND THAT.SO THEN THAT WAY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO LIVE THERE, UM, CAN ENJOY THAT LIFESTYLE AND THAT COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR PARKS, UH, COMMITTEE MEETS THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S RIGHT AT THREE O'CLOCK THERE
OH, WELL NOT YOU, BUT YEAH, CHAIRMAN IS SITTING RIGHT DOWN THERE.
UM, AND MAYBE IT WAS A, A MISTAKE, BUT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY DO THE WHOLE PRESENTATION THAT ZACH DID LAST TIME, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY A CHANCE TO SEE IT.
BUT WE, WE DO RELY ON A VERY ACTIVE LIFESTYLE.
UM, WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE AT THIS SCALE IS THAT THERE ARE TWO AMENITY CENTER COMPLEXES HEAVILY, YOU KNOW, INTENSE, UM, AMENITY CENTER COMPLEXES, ONE FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT SIDE, ANOTHER ONE FOR THE FAMILY SIDE.
THERE'S ALSO TWO PARKS THAT FIT BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN THERE'S A MIDDLE ELEMENTARY SITE WITH A 15 ACRE PARK.
WE HAVE 15 ACRE PARK BETWEEN EACH ONE OF THOSE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A REGIONAL PARK UP ALONG THE CREEK.
WOULD THAT PARK INCLUDE, UM, UH, LIKE AN AREA FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES? UH, THE PROGRAMMING IS NOT COMPLETE YET.
UM, SO I, I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT OKAY.
UM, WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH, UM, LIKE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY.
AND SO I THINK HAVING THAT PLAY INTO THAT WITH, AGAIN, SO MANY CONCERNS ON THE RISE.
CAN I GET YOU TO SPEAK IN THE MIC SO IT CAN BE ON THE RIGHT? OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, JUST SAYING THAT IF WHEN THE PARK, UM, MEETS, JUST LOOKING OVER AT THE OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE PARKS MEETING THOSE INTERESTS FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BY CITY ORDINANCE.
AND, AND THE GENTLEMAN AT THE END DOWN HERE CAN ANSWER THIS MORE OFFICIALLY I GUESS THAN I CAN, BUT BY CITY ORDINANCE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO EITHER PROVIDE THE LAND OR PUT UP THE MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES TO PROVIDE GREEN SPACE PARKS, ALL OF THAT.
HOW THOSE PARKS THEN ARE DEVELOPED OR USED IS UP TO THE PARKS BOARD TO DETERMINE OR THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH THEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS, UH, MADE AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT A LOT OF CONCERNS.
UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, CRUCIAL DEADLINES OR DROP DEAD DATES? I MEAN, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN THAT RESPECT? YEAH, WE, WE DO, DECEMBER 24TH IS A DROP DEAD DATE FOR US.
I'M SORRY, DECEMBER 24TH IS OUR, IS OUR DROP DEAD DATE.
SO ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? WHEN DOES THIS GO BEFORE COUNSEL? 15TH.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I REALLY WANNA SAY SOMETHING.
MY NAME'S LEAN KELLY AND I LIVE AT 2 0 9 KATY LAKE DRIVE AND I'VE GOT SEVEN GENERATION OF MY FAMILY HERE AND I HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN ONE FOR GROWTH AND WHATNOT, AND I KNOW THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN OVER 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING AND THE MAJORITY OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES ON BROOKSIDE HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, UH, THAT LONG AND, BUT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT THOSE ARGUMENTS AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THE MENTO GROUP IS DOING THEIR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK AND I, I JUST WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO WORK TOGETHER AND GET THIS RESOLVED AND BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT BREAK UP TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY OTHER DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING AND IT'D BE PIECEMEALED AND NOT LOOK GOOD.
AND YOU KNOW, I I I LIKE THE, WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE WATER.
YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO KEEP THE WATER AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, 75 CONCERNS IS, IS A LOT, BUT I JUST HOPE THAT IT CAN BE RESOLVED BECAUSE IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE DROP DEAD DATE IS COMING TO.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
TERRY NAY, SEVEN 11 BROOKSIDE ROAD HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS.
UM, I JUST, UH, I GUESS UNLIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I THINK FOR A PROJECT THIS SIZE, 75 THINGS, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY CONCERNS REALLY, BUT, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CAN WORK 'EM
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OUT.SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, I DO WANNA, I DO WANT TO SAY, UH, THAT I THINK MENTO IS WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY AND, AND APPEASE EVERYBODY CITY AND, AND RESIDENTS INCLUDED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY CAN'T EVER MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
UH, I LEARNED THAT IN POLITICS FOR 28 YEARS, SO, UH, EVERYBODY MAY HAPPY YOU'RE MAKING SOMEBODY ELSE MAD IT SEEMS LIKE.
SO, UM, THAT'S A TOUGH BATTLE TO WIN AND, AND I FEEL FOR 'EM IN THAT ASPECT.
UM, PERSONALLY THOUGH, WE STILL DO HAVE SOME UNRESOLVED LITIGATION AND LEGAL ISSUES ON THE EASEMENT STUFF.
I THINK WE'RE WORKING, MOVING TOWARDS RESOLVING THAT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED YET.
UH, I KNOW THEY'RE UP AGAINST A DEADLINE, UH, HERE COMING UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH MARK TO HIT I THINK BY THAT TIMEFRAME FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT, UM, I DID WANT TO ASK IF THERE DID, DOES PLANNING HAVE ANY EL I SAW SOME ELEVATION VIEWS OF INDIVIDUAL UNITS, BUT I THINK EARLY ON MAYBE IN THE FIRST PRESENTATION WE HAD SOME ELEVATION VIEWS OF OTHER PROJECTS ON EAST COAST THAT MINTO HAD DONE WITH FULL ELEVATIONS OF A BLOCK OR A BLOCK AND A HALF INSTEAD OF JUST ONE ELEVATION OF ONE HOUSE.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? UM, AND I KNOW IT VARIES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, DEPENDING ON THE, ON, ON WHAT'S BEING BUILT WHERE, BUT HOW, HOW CLOSE ARE THESE LOTS OR HOW CLOSE ARE THE RESIDENCES TO EACH OTHER? UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING, UM, THE GARAGE SITUATION WE HAD ON CURVING EARLIER WHERE WE'RE FIVE FOOT APART AND YOU GOT ZERO LOT LINES AND, AND YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GRAVEL BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES 'CAUSE THE GRASS WON'T EVEN GROW THERE.
UH, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY? AND DOES PLANNING HAVE ANY EXAMPLES, UH, OF THAT FROM EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT MINTO HAS DONE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY? YEAH, I CAN ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY.
SO THERE, THERE'S 15 DIFFERENT LOT TYPES AND I BELIEVE ABOUT A HALF DOZEN DIFFERENT HOME STYLES, UH, THAT ARE PROPOSED.
SO JUST BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, THE, THE THE SETBACKS RE UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA VARY WIDELY, UH, ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT LOT TYPES.
THIS IS JUST TO LOOK AT A, A FEW OF THE SMALLER LOT TYPES, UH, WITH SMALLER SIDE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME ATTACHED PRODUCTS IN TOWN HOMES THAT WILL HAVE A A, A ZERO FOOT, UH, INTERIOR, UH, SIDE SETBACK, BUT THEN ADJACENT TO THE STREET, THEY'LL, THEY'LL MAINTAIN A 15 FOOT SETBACK FOR SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS OR PRODUCTS.
UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN EXISTING, UH, MENTAL DEVELOPED PROJECT.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS IN, UH, HILTON HEAD, SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE FROM AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE WHAT, UH, SOME OF THOSE TIGHTER, UH, PRODUCTS LOOK LIKE.
UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO ZOOM INTO THAT ANY TIGHTER? UM, OR IS THAT AS THIS IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET FOR, FOR THIS PICTURE? UM, I MEAN I'M NOT, I I'M NOT SEEING ANY YARD OR GARDEN AREA OF ANY SORT.
WE LOOK LIKE STREETS AND ROOFTOPS AND CONCRETE, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THERE, THERE'S MINIMAL YARD SPACE FOR PARTICULARLY THOSE SMALLER UNITS LIKE THE COTTAGES.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN SEE ON THE COURTYARD VILLAS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE HERE AS WELL AS THE COTTAGE, UH, WHICH WAS THE EXAMPLE SHOWN, UH, FROM A PRIOR MINTO DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, MINIMAL FENCED OR PRIVATE REAR YARD SPACE, TO YOUR POINT ON THOSE SMALLER PRODUCTS.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, DO YOU KNOW IF HAS ANY OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERING BEEN SUBMITTED YET? UH, BIG CONCERN OF MINE.
OBVIOUSLY I LIVE RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THAT FLOOD CONTROL LAKE AND UH, I SEE LOTS OF CONCRETE, I SEE LOTS OF ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOFS AND I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PLACES FOR ALL THAT WATER TO GO.
UM, WHICH I'D PREFER NOT END UP IN MY HOUSE.
AND I'M, UH, I LIKE SWIMMING BUT ONLY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WONDERED IF ANY CIVIL HAD BEEN SUBMITTED YET ON THAT AS FAR AS, AS DRAINAGE AND HOW ALL THAT'S GONNA BE HANDLED AT THIS POINT IN TIME BASED ON THAT KIND OF DENSITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR ITEMS LIKE DRAINAGE, LIKE THAT NO SPECIFIC CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, PRELIMINARY OR OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN PERMITTED OR, UH, EXCUSE ME, PROVIDED, UH, TO STAFF.
WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS SOME GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS, WATER, UH, STORM WATER LINES.
THAT WILL BE FUNDED OR, OR REIMBURSED RATHER THROUGH THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS, BUT NOT SPECIFIC DESIGN OR, OR PLANS EVEN AT A PRELIMINARY OKAY.
ZACH, DO YOU GET EMAILS? CAN YOU GET EMAILS WHERE YOU'RE AT? UH, NOT AT THE, AT THE DAIS HERE.
I SENT A PICTURE OF, UH, A PRODUCT, SO IF THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN GET IT AND THROW IT UP.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO YOU,
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TRENTON INSTEAD? IF YOU COULD, WE CAN WORK ON TRYING TO GET THAT IN ON A SECONDARY DEVICE.SORRY, TRENTON, YOU DON'T POP UP.
ZACH, CAN YOU FORWARD IT TO TRENTON MAYBE FROM YOUR DEVICE? HE'S NOT, THIS DEVICE ISN'T CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, SO IF YOU GET IT DIRECTLY TO HIM, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADJUST AND PULL UP.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, CLARIFICATIONS.
IF WE CAN GET THAT UP, IT'LL BE GREAT.
UM, I THINK IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT THAT 40 OF THE 75 CONDITIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ACTUALLY DA.
UM, SO 30 OF THEM WOULD BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO YOU GUYS.
IT COULD BE A COUPLE OFF EITHER WAY, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD APPROXIMATION.
UM, AND I DO WANNA THROW OUT ALSO, WE, WE, WE WENT UP TO THE QUARTER ACRE LOTS AND I MAY BE OFF ON THE NUMBER A HUNDRED QUARTER ACRE, BUT, BUT WE ALSO WENT UP TO THIRD ACRE AND WE SAID A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED WOULD BE THIRD ACRE ALSO OR BETTER.
AND THEN, UH, IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT LITTLE SPOT IN HILTON HEAD IS, IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT ONE SPOT.
NUMBER ONE, THAT PRODUCT, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD ON A ROOF LOOKING DOWN ON IT, BUT THAT PRODUCT IS VERY NICE.
AND, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNTS.
UM, IT HAS, UH, VERY GOOD OUTDOOR LIVING.
UM, UH, IT DOES HAVE MUSE DOWN THE MIDDLE, SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE THE SCALE OF HOW THE GREEN SPACE WORKS 'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY FORMAL.
UH, BUT THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT.
SO SHOWING THE PLANNED VIEW OF A BUILT ROOF IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT YOU GET THERE.
UM, THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT I GOT.
UNLESS, UNLESS TRENT CAN GET THAT UP.
YOU SAID YOU SEND THE FULL SIZE ONE? YES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO I THINK I'M LOOKING AT ALL 75 AND I, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BACK AND FORTH, WELL, SOME ARE DUPLICATES AND SOME ARE RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT A AGREEMENTS, SOME ARE TO THE PD STANDARDS.
BUT I THINK STAFF'S DONE A GOOD JOB AT GOING THROUGH ALL THIS AND LISTING ALL THESE, UM, VARIOUS CONDITIONS OUT TO GET IT TO A PLACE THAT, UM, WOULD BE BEST FOR US, UH, BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 2 32 DASH 2024 PD ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 3169.6 ACRES, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MAY I, UH, MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE TOO.
I, I JUST, I'M JUST PUTTING ON MY REAL ESTATE BROKER HAT FOR JUST A MOMENT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND WE DO A LOT OF DEALS.
WE, WE SELL FARM AND RANCH AND WE SELL A LOT OF BIG PROPERTIES.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE BIGGEST EVER.
UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT I, THAT I THINK THAT WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE SO CLOSE TO GETTING THIS DONE AND THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, SO WE JUST HAVE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE REALLY JUST DO NEED SOME TIME AT A, AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, I KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE CONTRACT DEADLINES, BUT AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, I FEEL A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT THAT BASED ON THIS MEETING AND THE DIALOGUE THAT I'VE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, THAT I COULD GO TO THE SELLERS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE HERE OF THESE PROPERTIES AND SAY, AN X DAY EXTENSION IS NOT
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REASONABLE.UM, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I'M NOT WILLING TO RUSH SOMETHING THAT I KNOW ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE I COULD SELL TO MY CLIENT AN EXTENSION.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE OF DOING THESE TYPES OF DEALS.
I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN 30 CONDITIONS, UM, STILL IN QUESTION TO VOTE ON IT.
I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, I DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK BACK IN 25 YEARS AND SAY, WELL, THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HERE'S ALL THESE ISSUES.
UM, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE THINGS BUTTONED UP BEFORE WE ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
MY COMMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, MR. SIMPSON MOVED THAT ALL THE 75 CONDITIONS BE MET, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE OPEN AN ENVELOPE OR AN EMAIL OR WHATEVER IT IS, THERE'S MORE CONDITIONS.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE IN FUTURE, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS THAT COME UP, BE ADDED TO THAT AS WELL.
SO SUBJECT TO CURRENT AND FUTURE CONDITIONS AT THE VERY LEAST FROM STAFF, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU NOT MAKE A MOTION BASED OFF OF FUTURE, UM, CONDITIONS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT IS PUTTING A LOT OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF LEGALLY WE WOULD EVER ADVISE THAT AMBIGUITY FOR BOTH US AND THE DEVELOPER.
UM, I WOULD HATE FOR A CONDITION TO RANDOMLY APPEAR.
I I I WOULD DEFINITELY HIGHLY OPPOSE THAT.
UM, WELL, WHAT IF, UM, SO IF WE APPROVE, IF WE, IF THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH THE 75 CONDITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PRESENTED HERE, AND THEN IN THE COURSE OF MAKING THE NECESSARY REVISIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS COME UP, HOW WOULD THAT BE HANDLED? IT, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION WHERE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THAT ALL 75 OF THESE CONDITIONS BE MET, IT WOULD HAVE TO, IT WOULD HAVE TO STICK TO THIS MOTION ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
UM, OUR ONLY OTHER, THE, THE OPTION WOULD BE WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, BASED OFF YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THEY GO TO COUNCIL AND, UM, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD ADDITIONAL ONES ON THERE OR REMOVE, THAT'D BE THEIR PREROGATIVE.
UM, BUT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE WHAT MAY BE A CONDITION IN THE FUTURE, I THAT, YEAH, THAT I WOULD HIGHLY, YEAH.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LEGALLY EVEN DO THAT.
AND I WOULD ALSO ADD CHASE, COULD YOU GET TO THE MIC COMMISSIONS? EXCUSE ME, SIR.
THIS IS OUR CITY ATTORNEY, CHASE CRAIG, UH, BROWN AND HOFFMEISTER.
UM, SO I WOULD ALSO JUST POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION'S ROLE IS AN, IS AN ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION.
UH, AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN CONSIDERATION.
AND ALSO THE, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST PRESENTLY ONE MOTION ON THE TABLE, AND THAT'S TO, THE MOTION WAS AS PRESENTED TO APPROVE WITH 75 CONDITIONS AND THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SO IN THIS INSTANCE, SIR, MAY I ASK THE QUESTION? MOTION FAILS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SECONDED.
[20. Consider recommendation of ZDC-232-2024]
OF ZDC DASH 2 32 DASH 2024.A PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR APPROXIMATELY 3169.6 ACRES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
UH, THIS IS THE END OF THE AGENDA.
TRENTON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TONIGHT? UH, NOT TONIGHT.
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UNDERWOOD, YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR, I'M SORRY, SEAN, YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? MORNING.[02:05:01]
UH, JUST THANK YOU TO STAFF, UM, FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, NOT JUST THIS ITEM HERE AGAIN, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE.COMMISSIONER HICKS, I AGREE WITH MR. SIMPSON.
THE, THEY WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS AND, UH, I MEAN, BASED ON THE PAPER, WE'VE KILLED A FOREST FULL OF TREES, UM, WITH ALL OF THIS DOCUMENTATION AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
UH, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO STAFF.
I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ALL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REST AND RELAX AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.
AND JUST THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
UH, SAME AS FAR AS, UH, THE MERE CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY.
AND, UM, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SENTIMENTS.
YOU KNOW, I LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, RAISE MY FAMILY HERE.
I ALSO APPRECIATE MENTOS AND I AGREE WITH THOSE, UH, STATEMENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT IS HARD TO FIND A GROUP LIKE THIS.
UM, AND, AND I HOPE THAT YOU COME BACK, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'RE ABLE TO, TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE IN A FUTURE DATE.
I, UH, JUST WANNA SAY, I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN OF ABOUT 12,000 PEOPLE.
I NOW LIVE IN A CITY CALLED WA, AGGIE, TEXAS, OVER 50,000 PEOPLE.
LET'S SEE IF I TRY THAT AGAIN.
UH, SO BASED ON MY FEELINGS, I, I WAS ONE OF THE, THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT WENT OVER TO ARLINGTON THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AND VISITED A PLACE CALLED VERIDIAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF METTA WOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DID, BUT THAT COMMUNITY WORKS WELL AND IT'S, IT HAS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IT HAS SMALL HOMES, LARGE HOMES, IT HAS TOWN HOMES, IT HAS APARTMENTS.
IT ALSO HAS A SENIOR SECTION AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL.
IF THAT COULD BE DONE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY FORTHRIGHT.
HEY, IT, IT'D BE A GREAT COMMUNITY TO HAVE HERE, BUT SAYING THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE FOLKS WERE REALLY WILLING TO, TO GO THAT FAR, IS WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
NOW I KNOW THAT THEY PRESENTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANGLES, BUT I WAS TORN TO BETWEEN VOTING FOR IT OR DENYING IT, BUT BASED ON MY FEELINGS, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN IN A COMMUNITY LIKE VERIDIAN THAT WOULD WORK WELL HERE.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU HAD MY VOTE.
UM, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS THING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S KINDA LIKE A DOG CHASING HIS TAIL.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T COME TO AN END, BUT, UM, BUT STAFF, YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
UM, IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS DEVELOPMENT OUTTA HERE.
YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST TO HAVE THE BEST DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY THINGS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE CITY THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, HINDSIGHT'S 2020 AND THEY SHOULD, SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THE WAY THEY DID IT.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND Y'ALL ARE HAPPY, THEN I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT YOU'RE JUST DOING THIS TO BE DIFFICULT.
YOU'RE DOING IT TO BE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING AND IT IS THE COMMISSION'S HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF WAXAHATCHEE.
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE, AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, THAT'S MEETING IS ADJOURNED.