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ALL RIGHT, IT'S[1. Call to Order]
7:00 PM WE'RE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER IF EVERYONE WILL STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, PLEASE.I HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING ALL OF US HERE THIS EVENING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER US AND HELP US TO MAKE GOOD CHOICES AS WE GUIDE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY IN YOUR SON'S NAME.
[3. Public Comments]
OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.PEOPLE MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY ISSUES.
UM, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONCERN, WHETHER IT'S ON THIS AGENDA OR NOT.
UM, THE COMMISSION MAY NOT COMMENT OR DELIBERATE SUCH STATEMENTS, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, YOU ARE ASKED TO OBSERVE A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE? CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? MIKE MUMFORD 1 6 5 OH LOEL ROAD.
UH, I'M WONDERING IF IT'S LEGAL FOR SOMEBODY TO OPEN A REHAB CENTER IN A CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S RESIDENTIALLY, UH, ZONED.
SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC CONCERNS DURING THIS TIME.
UM, MY SUGGESTION TO YOU WOULD BE TO GIVE THE PLANNING OFFICE A CALL TOMORROW.
AND I AM SURE THEY'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPEN FORUM? HI, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? MY NAME IS JAMES FABIAN AND I LIVE AT 52 36 EAST FMA 75.
I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE DEVELOPER.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS TRAFFIC, SPECIFICALLY WHAT PLANS ARE IN PLACE TO HANDLE THIS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
JAMES, IS THIS ON THE MINTO DEVELOPMENT? UH, YEAH.
WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE, UM, WAIT, DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC? YES, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN THAT COMES UP IN THE AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NO ONE ELSE, WE WILL, UH, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I TOTALLY SKIPPED NUMBER FOUR.
[4. Present Proclamation proclaiming October 2025 as Community Planning Month and Recognize the City of Waxahachie for their Richard R. Lillie, FAICP Program for Planning Excellence Certificate of Achievement]
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR. SUITER.THANK YOU FOR FORGETTING ABOUT.
WELL, YOU'RE SO FAR AWAY FROM ME NOW.
UM, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE, I'M HERE TO, UH, PRESENT A PROCLAMATION.
UH, WHEREAS CHANGE IS CONSTANT AND AFFECTS ALL CITIES, TOWNS, SUBURBS, COUNTIES, BOROUGHS, TOWNSHIPS, RURAL AREAS AND OTHER PLACES.
AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY PLANNING AND PLANS CAN HELP MANAGE THIS CHANGE IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES BETTER CHOICES FOR HOW PEOPLE WORK AND LIVE.
AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY PLANNING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS TO BE MEANINGFULLY INVOLVED IN MAKING CHOICES THAT DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS THE FULL BENEFITS OF PLANNING REQUIRE PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND CITIZENS WHO UNDERSTAND SUPPORT AND DEMAND EXCELLENCE IN PLANNING AND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
AND WHEREAS THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ITS TERRITORIES.
AND WHEREAS THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ENDORSES NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW PLANNING IS ESSENTIAL TO RECOVERY AND HOW PLANNERS CAN LEAD COMMUNITIES TO EQUITABLE, RESILIENT AND LONG LASTING RECOVERY.
AND WHEREAS THE CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY REP RECOGNIZE THE PARTICIPATION AND DEDICATION OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND OTHER CITIZEN PLANNERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE TEXAS.
AND WHEREAS WE CAN DEEPLY APPRECIATE AND HONOR THE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY AND PLANNERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEIR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SURFACE SERVES AS AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, PATRICK SUITER MAYOR PRO TEM OF WAXAHATCHEE, ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY DESIGNATE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, 2025 AS COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH IN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH PROCLAIM THIS 28TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2025.
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AND I THINK IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE ALSO CELEBRATING, UM, THE CITY FOR THEIR RICHARD R LILLY F-A-I-C-P PROGRAM FOR PLANNING EXCELLENCE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT.DO WE WANNA TAKE A COUPLE PHOTOS REAL QUICK? IS THAT YEP.
[5. Consent Agenda]
WE CAN MOVE TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE ARE, UM, ITEM FIVE C HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
SO, UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, PLEASE JUST NOTE THAT WE ARE WITHDRAWING ITEM FIVE CI MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, SUBJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STAFF.
ALL IN FAVOR? HOLD UP YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ITEM SIX, WHICH
[6. Public Hearing on a request by Dr. Haroon Rasheed, for a Zoning Change from a General Retail (GR) zoning district to Planned Development-General Retail (PD-GR) zoning district with reduced minimum parking requirements, located at 600 Ferris Avenue (Property ID 170756) - Owner: HR Waxahachie Land LP (ZDC-143-2025)]
IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR REQUEST BY DR.HARUN RASHEED FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM A GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT WITH REDUCED MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS LOCATED AT 600 FERRIS AVENUE.
UM, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHO ON THE STAFF IS PRESENTING THIS ONE.
AS YOU NOTED FOR ZDC 1 43 DASH 2025 IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GENERAL RETAIL.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 600 FERRIS AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE AND CURRENTLY HAS A 58,000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING PARTIALLY OCCUPIED BY TEXAS PAIN PHYSICIANS ON THE PROPERTY.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN TO THE RIGHT HERE, IS FILLED OUT COMPLETELY WITH DRIVE AISLES AND PARKING SPACES FOR THIS BUSINESS.
THIS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN 1965, OR EXCUSE ME, 1956 WITH THOSE 69 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT WITH THIS PD REQUEST IS LOOKING TO REALLY MENTALLY TAILOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROPERTY TO JUST THE 69 SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT ON THE SITE.
THIS IS BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SITE IS MAXIMIZED WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING AND DRIVE OUT CONFIGURATION.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE TO START REMOVING PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE OWNER ACTUALLY IS UNABLE TO OCCUPY THE ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING DUE TO OUR MODERN DAY PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH CALL FOR ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY 200 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA THAT'S DEDICATED TO A MEDICAL OFFICE USE IS STRICTLY ENFORCED.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE OWNER TO HAVE 290 ONSITE PARKING SPACES.
HISTORICALLY, THIS SITE HAS BEEN WELL ACCOMMODATED BY THE EXISTING PARKING ON THE PROPERTY.
IT HAS BEEN USED AS A, AS A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT LAND USES, INCLUDING RETAIL AND, AND GROCERY USES IN THE PAST.
AND THE EXISTING PARKING HAS SUPPORTED THAT ADEQUATELY.
AND WITH THIS IN MIND, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PD REQUEST.
THIS NARROWLY TAYLOR NARROWLY TAILORING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT TO THE SITE FOR JUST THE EXISTING SPACES WOULD ALLOW THE OWNER TO FULLY OCCUPY THE BUILDING AND, AND MAKE USE OF IT AS IT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN.
THE OWNER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST.
WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL.
BUT BASED ON THE STATUS OF WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS APPLICATION, WE ARE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PD REQUEST.
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ALL RIGHT, MS. THE APPLICANT HERE, YOU CAN COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.SO, UM, DO YOU GET ALONG GOOD WITH THE GROCERY STORE NEXT DOOR? OH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD FRIENDS.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD STRATEGY.
UM, HAVE YOU HAD MANY COMPLAINTS OR, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE RECEIVED ANY.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING OR THERE'S TOO MUCH THERE? NO.
ON ANY GIVEN DAY, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER EXCEEDED 30% OF WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING LEFT OVER AND, UM, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR, UH, FROM FOODLAND, UH, FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
AND, UM, HIS CUSTOMERS PARK ON MY SIDE, WE PARK ON HIS SIDE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A BIG SHOPPING STRIP.
THAT, THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
UM, HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE? UH, ANYWHERE FROM, ON ANY GIVEN DAY OR SIX TO 12 ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
AND THEN HOW MANY PATIENTS ARE YOU GENERALLY SEEING AT ONE TIME? WE DON'T EXCEED 10 AND MAYBE 10 IN ANY GIVEN HOUR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10 IN ANY GIVEN HOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 25 CARS.
AND YOU HAVE 69 PARKING SPACES? CORRECT.
AND IN ONE FIGURE, IN ONE CONFIGURATION, WE EVEN HAVE LIKE 77 NO DEPENDENT, BUT THAT'S CORRECT.
CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR HOME ADDRESS? YOU GAVE US THE ADDRESS OF YOUR OFFICE.
3 6 2 0 RANCHERO ROAD, PLANO, TEXAS.
SO, SO YOUR OCCUPANCY IS, IS 40% OF THE BUILDING.
IF YOU HAD, IF IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO RENT OUT A GREATER PERCENT.
SO YOU'VE RESTRICTED YOUR RENTING IT OUT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE PARKING SPACES? THAT'S CORRECT.
DO YOU PLAN TO REMODEL THE BUILDING? LIKE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF TENANTS ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE? WE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE MEDICAL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIALISTS AND WE CAME IN, THERE WAS, UM, ACTUALLY NO PERMANENT PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALTY IN SEVERAL COUNTIES.
AND WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
AND WE WANTED TO BRING IN OTHER SPECIALTIES WHERE THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY.
AND WE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST, YOU KNOW, ON, ON ANY GIVEN YEAR, BUT DUE TO THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS, SO THE INSIDE IS ALL SHELLED OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A TON OF MONEY SHELLING IT OUT AND IT'S READY, BUT IT'S JUST LITERALLY BEEN VACANT FOR 10 YEARS.
SO IF THOSE, IF, IF THAT'S THE TYPE OF RENTER THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THE RATIO OF CARS RELATIVE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S OCCUPIED WOULD BE ROUGHLY THE SAME? YEAH, FOR, FOR THE MOST PART.
ACTUALLY SOME OF THE, UM, THERE'S A BIG IMAGING CENTER THAT WANTS TO COME IN.
SO THEY'RE EVEN LESS, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE ONE MRI EVERY HALF AN HOUR OR SOMETHING.
SO WE'RE CONSIDERED SOMETHING BUSIER.
OUR PRACTICE IS, UH, PRETTY BUSY.
SO TYPICALLY MOST PRACTICES ARE GONNA BE LESS BUSIER THAN OURS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO, UM, ANYONE WHO IS FOR OR AGAINST AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
SEEING NO ONE, UM, WOULD ANYONE
[7. Consider recommendation of ZDC-143-2025]
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH 1 43 DASH 2025, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 600 FERRIS AVENUE, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.UH, REAL QUICK, BEFORE YOU, UH, CONTINUE ON THAT MOTION, WE DO NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M SO SORRY, I FORGOT THAT PART.
ALRIGHT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? A MOTION TO CLOSE SECOND.
SO DO I NOW NEED TO REREAD THIS? I'M GONNA ARGUE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TAKE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[8. Public Hearing on a request by Matthew Smith, Darwood Partners, for a Zoning Change from a General Retail (GR) zoning district to Planned Development – Neighborhood Services (PD-NS) zoning district located directly east of 365 Broadhead Road (Property ID(s): 242234, 231109 – Owner(s): WP Legacy LTD (ZDC-24-2025)]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY MATTHEW SMITH.DARWIN PARTNERS FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM A GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED DIRECTLY EAST OF 365 BROADHEAD ROAD.
HI, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, UH,
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CDC DASH 24 DASH 2025.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM GR TO PD DASH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
SO THAT'S GENERAL RETAIL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES LOCATED EAST OF 365 BROADHEAD ROAD, WHICH IS DIRECTLY EAST OF KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS.
UM, AND, UH, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, CONTAINS THE NORTHEAST AND NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROADHEAD ROAD AND GARDEN VALLEY.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED GENERAL RETAIL SINCE 2002.
THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE CELLS, UM, WHICH YOU CAN REFER TO ZDC DASH 1 39 DASH 2024, BUT WAS DISAPPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2024.
THE APPLICANT IS NOW, THE APPLICANT NOW SEEKS A SIMILAR USE, HOWEVER, WITH A ZONING CHANGE TO A PD DASH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
ESSENTIALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO ALLOW LESS INTENSE USES.
AND I ALSO INCLUDED AN UPDATED COPY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTICES ALONG WITH A LIST OF GENERAL RETAIL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND COMPARE THE TWO.
UM, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT IS ESTABLISHED AS A LIMITED RETAIL CATEGORY INTENDED FOR THE USE FOR NEIGHBOR, UH, NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS TO SUPPLY DAY-TO-DAY NEEDS AND PERSONAL SERVICES ESTABLISHMENTS SHOULD INCLUDE SMALL FREESTANDING RETAIL STRUCTURES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE STORES AND NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED PERSONAL SERVICES, AND TYPICALLY OCCUPIES AN EXISTING OR SMALL CORNER LOT WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CONCEPTUAL PLAN REFLECTING A POTENTIAL USER IN MINE FOR ONE OF THE LOTS, WHICH IS SEVEN 11, LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROADHEAD AND GARDEN VALLEY.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY 4,800 SQUARE FEET AND A SEPARATE CANOPY TO INCLUDE FIVE DUAL-SIDED GASOLINE PUMPS.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES ARE NOW LOCATED TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE WESTERN TRACT, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND MATERIALS COMPLIMENTS THE EXISTING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.
THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE A USER FOR THE PROPOSED LOT NORTH OF THE PROPOSED SEVEN 11, HOWEVER, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING FOR THE USE TO BE RETAIL.
UM, IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS CONNECTING TO EXISTING ONES ALONG BROADHEAD AND GARDEN VALLEY.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSTALL FOUR FOOT DECORATIVE IRON FENCING ALONG THE SIDEWALKS LOCATED AT ALL ENTRANCES AND CORNERS TO PROVIDE A SAFETY BARRIER AND REDIRECT TRAFFIC FLOW FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
STAFF SENT OUT A TOTAL 20 NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200, UH, FOOT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND WE RECEIVE FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND TWO LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVE OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AND STAFF, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.
CAN THE APPLICANT COME UP? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? I, UH, MATTHEW SMITH, STARWOOD PARTNERS, 1 0 0 8 MACON STREET FOR TEXAS.
SO WE HAVE SPENT, UM, ALMOST A YEAR NOW WITH WORKING WITH STAFF, WORKING WITH SEVEN 11, WORKING WITH VARIOUS MUNICIPALITY REPRESENTATIVES, TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF Y'ALL WERE THERE, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF CONCERNS AND WE'VE DONE AT, AT OUR BEST, PUT OUR BEST FOOT FOOT FORWARD TO ADDRESS THOSE.
SO, UM, WE'LL IF WE'LL MOVE TO THE SITE PLAN.
SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A, UH, ADJACENT LOT TO THE SEVEN 11.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MOVE IT OFF THE CORNER TO PROMOTE VISI, BETTER VISIBILITY TO THE INTERSECTION ONE AND TWO, INCREASE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG GARDEN VALLEY ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, THAT ALSO ALLOWED US TO RETAIN SIX OF THE EIGHT EXISTING TREES AS WELL.
UM, WHICH IF YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE THERE, WELL, I HAVE A DIFFERENT EXHIBIT FOR THAT.
SO, LANDSCAPE PLAN IS ONSET AND WE HAVEN'T UPDATED ONE THAT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, I THINK WE HAD SOME MISCALCULATIONS ON THE TREES, BUT, UM, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO HERE'S SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SO THE BIG ONE BEING CHANGING FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WHICH,
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UH, GENERAL RETAIL, IT'S BEEN ZONED SINCE 2002.UH, BUT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES SEEMS TO FIT THIS CORRIDOR A LITTLE, UH, BETTER.
UH, GIVEN THE DEFINITION THAT ORANGE JUST READ THE 80% MASON REQUIREMENT FOR ALL BUILDINGS.
I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A SECOND AS WELL.
UH, INCREASED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING A ADDING A 40 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
UH, 24 HOUR ENHANCED SECURITY.
SO THE BIG CONCERN LAST TIME AROUND WAS THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS, WHICH 24 HOURS.
SO WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP OF SEVEN ELEVEN'S OPERATIONS AND REQUESTED, HEY, CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS SITE? AND THEY SAID BASICALLY THEY'RE WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORAGES.
THEY WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY, WHILE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT USE IT 24 HOURS AS WALKIE GROWS, WHICH THERE'S GROWTH TO THE EAST, THERE'S GROWTH TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE INTERSECTION.
THERE'S DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, WHETHER IT BE A NURSE GETTING OFF AT 3:00 AM OR A SHIFT WORKER COMING HOME AT TWO OR LEAVING AT TWO.
SO THEY WANT TO BE A CONVENIENCE FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THEY HAVE IN OTHER AREAS, AND WE TALKED TO THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, AND THEY ARE USING THE, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT NAMES, BUT, UM, ENHANCED SECURITY, WHICH BASICALLY IT'S A SYSTEM THAT IS TIED INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEY HAVE IT AT THE LOWE'S, THE HOME DEPOT AND THE WALMART, WHERE BASICALLY IT'S A, IT READS THE PROFILE OF THE CAR AS WELL AS THE LICENSE PLATE.
AND BASICALLY THEY GET AN ALERT THE SECOND THAT ANYBODY WITH THE RECORD OR I I IDENTITY MATCHING, THAT VEHICLE ENTERS THE ACCESS POINT.
SO IT'S NOT AIMED TO SURVEIL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S ANGLED AT THE ACCESS POINTS INTO IT.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S A, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH AND THE PD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTS WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND THE FENCE DESIGN.
BUT THAT WAS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE, WE, AND I'LL JUST BACK UP.
WE WERE WRONG ON HOW MANY KIDS WALKED BY THAT SCHOOL.
LIKE WE ENDED UP WATCHING A KID GET HIT ON A BIKE.
SO LIKE WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO INCREASE THE SECURITY THERE.
SO I THINK WE'VE TAKEN SOME MEASURES TO, UM, TO PROMOTE THE SAFETY THERE.
UM, SO ZACH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, SO THERE, THERE'S IS A CHART I INCLUDED OF WHAT GENERAL RETAIL, THE CHANGE FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WHAT THAT DOES, WHAT THAT REMOVES WHAT IS REQUIRED.
THAT IS ONLY THE CHANGES, NOT THE FULL, UM, USE LIST.
AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO EVERY BUILDING IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, APPEARANCE USING THIS, UH, MATERIAL PALLET.
UM, WHICH YOU WILL, WE CAN SHOW WHENEVER WE GET TO THE RENDERINGS OF THE SITE.
SO THE, THE TWO XS ARE THE TREES THAT CURRENTLY, UM, WILL BE REMOVED.
THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN.
THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED ONCE WE RUN ALL OF OUR CALCULATIONS.
HYDRAULICS THAT, UM, DETENTION POND COULD GET SMALLER WHERE WE COULD SAVE THAT ONE TREE.
UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE TREES IS JUST RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
ZACH, IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THE CORNER.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS DESIGNED THE SIDEWALK WHERE, WHAT WE SAW WHEN WE HAD OUR SURVEILLANCE, SURVEILLANCE, WE HAD OUR CAMERA UP, UM, IS THAT A LOT OF THE KIDS PEDESTRIANS EVERYTHING.
THEY WERE KIND OF JUST HEAD DOWN WALKING ACROSS, UM, WHETHER IT BE THE INTERSECTION, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
SO WHAT WE DESIGNED IS BASICALLY WHERE YOU CAN'T WALK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND DOWN, WHICH BASICALLY GIVES CARS TIME TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING AS WELL AS THE KIDS HAVING TO LOOK UP, SEE, WALK AROUND, GIVE 'EM MORE AWARENESS.
SO AT EVERY ACCESS CROSSING AND UM, THE INTERSECTION THERE, THERE WILL BE THE WROUGHT IRON FENCES, FOUR FOOT HIGH LANDSCAPE WITH CHUGGING AROUND.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IN THE RENDERINGS AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE, SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD FROM THIS ROUND WITH, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON GARDEN VALLEY RIGHT NOW.
SO MOST PEOPLE WALK IN THE STREET.
SO WE AT, AT INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF WHETHER IT BE SEVEN 11, WHATEVER THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL REQUIRE FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE SIDEWALKS TO BE INSTALLED AT THAT TIME, NOT JUST ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
UM, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANOTHER THING THAT WE, UM, FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED IS THE STOP SIGNS.
OBVIOUSLY WE DID A WARRANT STUDY THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
IT IS WARRANTED TO PUT A FOUR-WAY STOP IN THERE.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE DOING U-TURNS, UM, TO GET TO THE ACCESS POINT
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ON, UM, BROADHEAD.SO WE'RE PROPOSING NO U-TURN SIGNS AT THAT CORNER AS WELL AS ADDING STOP SIGNS AHEAD, UM, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A, A QUICK CHANGE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AREA.
YOU KNOW, IT, THEY'RE NOT USED TO IT NOW.
AND THEN HERE'S SOME OF THE RENDERINGS.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS, WHICH WE TOOK.
UM, THE SURROUNDING THE MASONRY WALL THAT SAID THE GARDEN VALLEY ENTRANCE TRIED TO MATCH THE COLOR PALETTE THE BEST WE COULD.
ADDED THE PITCH THROUGH, TOOK THE SIGNAGE DOWN TO A MINIMAL STANDARD.
UM, SO THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF THE STRIPES AND EVERYTHING.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY UNIQUE, UM, IF APPROVED, VERY UNIQUE, UH, LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, SEVEN 11, YOU CAN SEE IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN, UM, A COUPLE MORE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE OF THE FENCE AND HAVING TO GO BEHIND A CAR.
TYPICALLY CARS AREN'T STACKED UP AT THE EXIT, SO GOING CARS LEAVING CAN SEE YOU, CARS TURNING IN, CAN SEE YOU 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A DELAY TO TURN AND THEN YOU'RE WALKING BEHIND SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SPACE BEFORE TURNING ON.
SO WITH THAT, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE MORE RENDERINGS, BUT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE AND APOLOGIZE FOR.
IT LOOKS LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, THE WAY THAT THE GOOGLE EARTH RENDERINGS WORK, IT LOOKS, THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, THE, THAT BEING THE HAMILTON, UH, WE JUST MISSED ON THE ZONING, THAT'S ALL.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME.
SO, UM, THIS PANEL MAY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE.
IT DOES, BUT THERE'S TWO FAMILIAR FACES HERE, I THINK.
SO, AND, AND ZACH OR TR THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR Y'ALL, BUT AS, AS I SAT HERE THE LAST TIME, THE, THE TWO BIG ITEMS WERE THE LIGHT AND THE, THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.
THE, THEY TRIED TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT THE FUMES FROM PUMPING GAS, BUT BELIEVE ME, I'VE PUMPED A LOT OF GAS AND MY, YOU KNOW, MILLION DO A MILLION MILES OF TRAVEL.
SIR, CAN YOU CLARIFY LIGHT AS IN THE TRAFFIC LIGHT OR THE LIGHT ON SIDE? NO, THE, THE LIGHT POLLUTION.
LIGHT POLLUTION GOT, OKAY, YEAH.
YES, YOU'VE DEFINITELY ADDRESSED THAT, RIGHT? EVERYTHING'S DOWNWARD FACING.
SO KUDOS TO THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AT THE CORNERS, BUT IS THERE A WAY, OR IS THERE AN ORDINANCE AGAINST, COULD WE RUN A FENCE BETWEEN THAT SIDEWALK AND THE STREET, THE, THE WROUGHT IRON FENCING? BECAUSE WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THAT A KID JUST DARTS OUT AND JAYWALKS, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD JUST BE, THAT IS JUST AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TRENTON, WE JUST NEED TO GET IN A
AND ONE OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING A FENCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WE HAVE OUR, UM, DIRECTOR HERE THAT COULD ANSWER BETTER QUESTIONS, UH, BETTER ANSWERS THAN I WOULD, BUT IS WE'D WANNA MAKE SURE IT WOULD BE A TYPE OF FENCE THAT WOULD BE STILL ALLOW VISIBILITY THROUGH THAT FENCE, EVEN IF IT'S FOUR FEET HEIGHT OR THREE FEET, IF IT'S A SOLID FENCE, UM, WE WOULD HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MAINTENANCE, UM, ISSUES OF VISIBILITY THROUGH THAT FENCE AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS.
SO THAT'D BE DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'D WANNA LOOK MORE INTO AND PROBABLY DEFER TO OUR, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER, UH, OR OUR DIRECTOR OF, UH, POG WORKS FIELD.
I KNOW WE'D BE WILLING TO HANDLE MAINTENANCE THAT THAT'S ONE CHECKBOX IF THAT'S ALLOWED.
UM, TWO, THE, IF YOU CAN GO, I THINK IN THE ORDINANCE, THE ACTUAL EXAMPLE MATCHES THE, THE, IT'S YOUR TYPICAL WROUGHT IRON, YOU KNOW, WITH GAPS.
SO VISIBILITY BUT TO TRANSPORT, YES, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT OKAY.
UM, AND THEN, OR COULD THE SIDEWALK MOVE FURTHER FROM THE STREET TO CREATE A BIGGER, IS THERE RULES AGAINST THAT? I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
WE CAN DO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EASEMENT ON OUR SITE.
AND WE, WE CAN, I MEAN, THEY COULD DEFINITELY MOVE THE SIDEWALK, UH, MORE IN TOWARDS THE SITE.
UM, HAVE A MEANDERING ONE OR WE COULD DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT IF THAT'S SOME OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE AND THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO, I THINK THE CITY WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
IS IS THERE, IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE OF THOSE BEING EFFECTIVE? I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE AND, AND WHAT CHAD'S I I'M JUST GONNA BOLT AROUND IT TO SAY, SO I, FROM WHAT WE WATCHED AND WE WATCHED A LOT, I WILL SAY IS THERE WERE INSTANCES OF NOT EVEN LOOKING, JUST WALKING, JUST WALKING STRAIGHT ACROSS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING HOW KIDS LEARN THAT THE SHORTEST DISTANCE KIDS BETWEEN TWO POINTS IS A STRAIGHT LINE, RIGHT? I DON'T WANNA CALL THESE TWO KIDS OUT, BUT THERE WERE TWO KIDS EVERY DAY GOING AS FAST AS THEY COULD ON THEIR BIKE.
AND LIKE, IT WAS, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
LIKE, THEY DIDN'T STOP, IT WAS JUST GO LIKE, GET TO SCHOOL.
LIKE, SO THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE CAME UP WITH IS, YOU KNOW, AND NOT ONLY FOR THE PEDESTRIANS, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU TAKE A, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND ON BROADHEAD AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF
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THEY'RE GONNA STOP OR NOT, HAVING THEM TAKE A RIGHT, BOTH PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S MORE TIME AND THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE GIVES BOTH PARTIES TIME TO SEE AND REACT TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY POTENTIALLY CROSSING OR NOT CROSSING, LOOKING UP.SO, BUT DEFINITELY LIKE ON THE SIDEWALKS, YES, I THINK WE WOULD BE PER THE ORDINANCE, LIKE THESE ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM, YOU KNOW, DOING A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EASEMENT ON OUR SITE AND THEN REWRITING THE SIDEWALKS ON THE SIDE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DID TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS, UM, AND NOT GIVE UP.
YEAH, I'M, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED.
WHY, WHY, AND IT'S JUST ME AND MY PARTNER, IT'S OUR JOB.
SO LIKE, WE ARE GONNA KEEP TRYING, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE IT.
SO, UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I MAY HAVE SOME MORE AFTER WE THAT'S FINE.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UM, YOU MAY COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
WE'LL NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HELLO, MY NAME IS STEVEN VIRO.
I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT TWO 19 RANGE ROAD.
MAIN REASON WHY I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION FOR THIS, UM, SUP IS THAT GAS STATIONS, THEY HAVE INCREASED CRIME RATES AND IT'S MAINLY DUE TO THEIR 24 7 OPERATION.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NOTED LAST YEAR.
UM, THE GAS STATIONS ALSO HAVE CASH AND ATMS ON HAND THAT ARE TARGETS FOR ROBBERIES.
AND THEY ALSO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY SEEM TO ATTRACT CRIMINALS FROM A WIDE GEOGRAPHICAL RANGE.
SO I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS PRETTY WELL AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY PLANS ON ROBBING THIS GAS STATION, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA STOP SOMEBODY FROM TWO TOWNS OVER OR SOMEONE WHO JUST GETS OUT OF JAIL AND THEY WANT TO TARGET THIS LOCATION.
AND THE UNFORTUNATE PART ABOUT A GAS STATION IS ONCE THIS SITE BECOMES A GAS STATION, IT WILL ALWAYS BE A GAS STATION.
AND SO YOU AL WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THIS THREAT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO MAYBE YOU'RE THINKING, WELL THIS IS WAXAHATCHEE.
I MEAN THIS IS SEVEN 11, THIS IS A GOOD ESTABLISHMENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS GONNA BE IMMUNE TO THAT THREAT.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PROVIDE A QUICK SURVEY OF SOME RECENT NEWS STORIES THAT I'VE CAPTURED SINCE A YEAR AGO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I BROUGHT UP.
AND I, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WAS HERE, BUT THEY, THEY SEEMED TO DISMISS THAT, THAT CONCERN.
SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UM, THERE WERE TWO ARMED ROBBERIES THAT HAPPENED IN, IN FORT WORTH, UM, BOTH INVOLVING A SEVEN 11, UH, TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, SO ROBBERY AND THEN A COUPLE MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND ANOTHER ROBBERY, ANOTHER SEVEN 11 IN FEBRUARY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ABOUT OPERATION BIG GULP, BUT UM, AGAIN, IT WAS 14 PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED, UM, RELATED TO SEVEN 11 ATM THEFTS.
AND IN THIS NEWS ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, UH, THE INVESTIGATORS, WHEN THEY CONTACTED A SEVEN 11 REGIONAL MANAGER, THEY REPORTED THAT THERE WERE 43 INCIDENTS OF ATMS THAT WERE BROKEN INTO SMASH AND GRABS, UH, AND TAKEN, UM, SINCE APRIL 13TH, 2024.
RIGHT? AND THIS OCCURRED OVER A VERY WIDE AREA, RIGHT? SO IT WASN'T JUST CONCENTRATED IN, IN ONE PART OF, OF THE METROPLEX.
I MEAN, HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE AT THE END OF MARCH, UH, I BELIEVE OUR OWN NEWSPAPER REPORTED THAT A, A STORE CLERK WAS PEPPER SPRAYED HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UM, IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, WE HAD A GAS STATION CLERK THAT WAS KIDNAPPED AT GUNPOINT.
LUCKILY THEY HAD A TRACKING DEVICE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO BE RETRIEVED.
SO THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, GOOD THING WE FOUND THEM, UM, AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW THIS, BUT, UH, ELLIS COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, THEY CAME OUT WITH A, AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY ARRESTED, UM, SEVERAL SUSPECTS AFTER A THREE DAY ROBBERY SPREE THAT INVOLVED, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES.
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RIGHT? I WOULD EVEN SAY SO HERE, UM, IN, IN, IN WAXAHATCHEE, I MEAN EVEN THIS MONTH, UM, THIS NEW QT GAS STATION, THERE WAS A, A REPORTED AGGRAVATED ROBBERY THAT HAPPENED THERE.AND EVEN A COUPLE DAYS AGO, 10 23, UH, THERE WAS A THEFT REPORTED AT THE CIRCLE K OFF, UH, NORTH HIGHWAY 77.
AND ONE OF THE INTERESTING PARTS THERE, AND THIS RELATES TO THE ENHANCED, UH, SECURITY FEATURE THAT YOU MENTIONED, IS THAT, UH, THE SUSPECT, UH, THEY DID NOT HAVE A VISIBLE LICENSE PLATE ON THE VEHICLE.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT ENHANCED SECURITY SYSTEM WOULD DO IN THAT CASE, OR IF THE VEHICLE IS PERHAPS STOLEN.
UM, BUT ANYWAYS, LIKE I'M, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK SURVEY JUST TO KIND OF DEMONSTRATE THAT YEAH, THESE CONVENIENCE STORES, THEY, THEY ATTRACT A LOT OF NEGATIVE ATTENTION.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT ATTENTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT ATTENTION HERE FOR WAXAHATCHEE.
AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WOULD CONSIDER DENYING THIS REQUEST OR THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK AND REQUIRE THAT THE DEVELOPER AGREE TO INCORPORATE THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, NO, 24 7 OPERATIONS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
I FEEL LIKE THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD HELP DETER A, ANY KIND OF ROBBERIES OR THEFTS AND WOULD HELP MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER.
UM, ANYWAYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND, UM, I DO APPRE JUST AS, AS A NOTE, I DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE, THE SIDEWALKS.
I HAVE A, SO I'VE GOT A VESTED INTEREST.
I'VE GOT A SON WHO GOES TO SCHOOL EARLY IN THE MORNING AND, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
ALRIGHT, DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC FORUM OF PUBLIC HEARING? GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF CAME UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE, TO THE SIDEWALK MEANDER IT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THE MEANDER THAT PLANNING DOES, IT'S THE MEANDER THAT WE LIKE TO DO.
UM, THIS IS SIMILAR TO A DESIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ON ROGER STREET AND COLLEGE STREET, UH, CROSSING THE RAILROAD TRACKS WHERE WE FORCE PEDESTRIANS TO ACTUALLY TAKE HARD TURNS AND WE USE FENCING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO FORCE THEM TO LOOK UP AND, AND PAY ATTENTION TO CROSSINGS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FULLY SUPPORT AS SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO DO TO HELP INCREASE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS DESIGN.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE, THE SIDEWALK, IF, IF IT'S THE, THE COMMISSION'S CHOICE TO MOVE THE SIDEWALK, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL, AS LONG AS IT'S PUT INTO A, A SIDEWALK EASEMENT, UH, TYPICALLY THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE PUT INTO RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S A SIDEWALK EASEMENT, UM, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH RELOCATING THAT SIDEWALK FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY.
BUT WE DO LIKE THE WAY THAT THEY FORCE THE TURNS.
AND SO IF THAT SIDEWALK IS, IS TAKEN OFF THE SIDEWALK ONLY TO LINE UP WITH THE CROSSINGS, I, I THINK WE WOULD PREFER THE WAY THAT IT'S PRESENTED.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, DEFINITELY OKAY WITH, UH, THE OTHER ASPECTS OF, OF THE INTERSECTION IN, IN TRAVEL IS PRESENTED.
UM, I REMEMBERED THERE BEING SOME, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT CRIME.
AND SO I ACTUALLY LOOKED UP SOME CRIME STATISTICS AS FAR AS WHERE LOCATIONS OF VIOLENT CRIMES HAPPENED.
SO THESE ARE FBI STATISTICS, UM, CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS STATIONS, DEFINITELY THEY'VE GOT ABOUT, UM, 31, 30 2000, UM, VIOLENT CRIMES, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS IN RESIDENTIAL HOMES, WHICH IS 346,399.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP BUILDING HOMES BECAUSE VIOLENT CRIMES HAPPEN IN THEM.
UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT CRIME IS GOING TO HAPPEN JUST BECAUSE A STORE OPENS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
SO I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO EXHIBIT E IN THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE PD STANDARDS, UM, THEY'RE GOVERNED BY IT, ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED, THEY'RE GOVERNED BY WHATEVER THIS DOCUMENT SAYS, EVEN IF IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN OUR CURRENT CURRENT ORDINANCES.
SO DOES THAT PD UH, STANDARDS BASICALLY GOVERN THEM IN PERPETUITY UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT IT MIGHT BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE? UH, CORRECT.
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EXPIRATION CLAUSE, THERE'S NO TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THIS ORDINANCE.SO UNTIL SOMEONE COMES UP AND REQUEST AN AMENDMENT, UH, THESE WILL STAY IN PLACE.
SO IF SEVEN 11 GOES HERE AND THEN LET'S SAY IN 10 YEARS THEY CLOSE AND A DIFFERENT OPERATOR COMES IN, THESE WHATEVER'S IN THIS DOCUMENT WOULD STILL CORRECT APPLY? YES, SIR.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER IS STILL PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OR, OH, SORRY.
SO, SORRY, I'M, I'M NEW WITH THIS.
DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR? YOUR HAND? ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO I WANT TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THE SECURITY ASPECTS THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE PD STANDARDS AS THEY'RE PRESENTED TO US.
SO, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, NOW AND PRIOR ABOUT CRIME INCLUDING, UH, BURGLARIES, ROBBERIES, UH, EVEN AN, AN ABDUCTION WAS MENTIONED, UH, ATM THEFTS.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER A COUPLE OF SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE PD STANDARDS IF Y'ALL WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO THOSE.
UM, SO ONE OF THEM IS, UM, TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WINDOW COVERINGS ON THE FRONT OF THE STORE OR ON ANY WINDOWS OF THE STORE.
UM, I KNOW SOME GAS STATIONS GET, OR CONVENIENCE STORES GET CARRIED AWAY WITH THE WINDOW COVERINGS AND YOU CAN HARDLY SEE IN, WELL, NOT ONLY DOES THAT LOOK BAD FROM THE STREET, BUT IT'S BAD FROM A SAFETY ASPECT AS WELL.
UM, SO WOULD YOU GUYS BE WILLING TO LIMIT THAT TO SAY 25%? I, YES.
AND TO FURTHER KIND OF ELABORATE ON THAT, ABOUT, UH, ANY WINDOWS THAT HAVE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO LIKE A CASH REGISTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THERE'S NO WINDOW COVERINGS THERE AT ALL, SO THAT THERE'S A CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT, UH, FROM THE OUTSIDE, CLEAR FROM THE STORE.
WE CAN BE, I'M GONNA MOVE TO THAT.
UH, KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC TO THE, UM, ALARM OR SECURITY SYSTEM, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT TYPE OF SYSTEM Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING? SO, YEAH, SO THAT IS THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT IS WHAT CURRENTLY, SO I, I BELIEVE WALMART GIFTED THE CI THE, UH, BASE TO ACHI PD AND THEN HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S IMPLEMENTED THE CAMERAS.
SO BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT IT'S TIED DIRECTLY INTO THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND OH, SORRY.
AND IT'S NOT PURELY JUST THE LICENSE PLATE.
UM, LIKE, UH, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT.
SO IT'S THE, IF THEY HAVE A BIKE RACK, IF THEY HAVE A GRILL GUARD, WHATEVER.
SO IT'S LIKE THE ACTUAL VEHICLE PROFILE.
GOSH, LEMME STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.
AND Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES.
SO WE HAD A CALL WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ASKING THEIR PERMISSION TO IMPLEMENT THIS SYSTEM AND THEY WERE FULLY ON BOARD.
UH, HOW MANY SECURITY CAMERAS ARE YOU PROPOSING TO HAVE INSIDE THE STORE? OR DO YOU KNOW AT THIS POINT? SO WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE, I, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CANNOT REMEMBER, BUT THERE'S A FULL PACKAGE, I BELIEVE IT'S 24 TOTAL CAMERAS ON THE SITE.
I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE 12 IN THE STORE.
UH, ONE OVER, ONE OVER EACH REGISTER, ONE AT ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF EVERY DOOR AND THEN OF EVERY STORAGE ROOM, ATM AND THEN THE ATMS THEMSELVES HAVE CAMERAS AS WELL.
AND THOSE INCLUDE CAMERAS IN THE DOOR FRAMES IN THE DOOR FRAMES, MM-HMM
AS THAT CAPTURE FACES OF PEOPLE? YES, YES, YES.
UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ALL I HAVE.
SO FOR THE WINDOW COVERINGS MM-HMM
UM, I GUESS, UH, STAFF, HOW CAN WE WORK THAT IN? SO THAT WOULD JUST FALL UNDER OUR SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS? UH, NO MORE THAN, UH, 25%, UH, OF THE WINDOW SHALL HAVE SIGNAGE ON IT.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE TRESPASSING OPENING.
SO YEAH, SIR, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
HOW WOULD YOU FORCE THAT OR SIGN ORDER? SO IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY HAVE MORE SIGNAGE, THEN I MEAN, IF THE COMMISSION'S OKAY WITH ME ANSWERING THIS QUESTION, UM, IF THEY EXCEED THAT, WE ACTUALLY, AS PART OF THE CO PROCESS CERTIFICATE, UM, OCCUPANCY PROCESS, WE'LL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND WE'LL CALCULATE THE PERCENTAGE OF SIGNAGE THAT THEY HAVE ON THE WINDOWS.
IF THEY EXCEED THAT, THEY CAN RECEIVE A ZONING ORDINANCE VIOLATION, WHICH IS A PENALTY UNDER OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS.
AND WE STILL, UH, TO FURTHER CLARIFY,
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WE STILL HAVE TO GO AND GET ALL THE PLANS APPROVED, THE BUILDING PLANS TO SIGN ITS PLANS, THE CIVIL PLANS, EVERYTHING STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED AND PART OF THE WINDOW SIGNAGE WILL ALSO BE, UH, PERMITTED.ALL SIGNAGE HAS TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE STATE SITE.
SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE PERMIT PACKAGE.
UM, ONE LAST LITTLE THING IN HERE, AND THIS IS KIND OF VERY NUANCED, BUT A AGAIN, I'M KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD TO, LET'S SAY SEVEN 11 GOES AWAY IN 10, 15 YEARS AND SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND KIND OF WHAT'S IN THIS, UH, PD DOCUMENT.
SO ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUEL SALES USE, YOU HAVE THREE, UH, KIND OF BULLET POINTS HERE ABOUT THE SECURITY.
ONE OF THEM SAYS A MONITORED ALARM SYSTEM CONNECTED TO A LICENSED SECURITY PROVIDER OR PUBLIC SAFETY AUTHORITY.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CHANGE THE OR TO AND IT, YES.
AND IT BOTH WILL BE, SO THE ALARM SYSTEM AND WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS THE, THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
SO YOU'D BE WILLING TO CHANGE THAT TO A MONITORED, UM, MAYBE LIKE SECURITY AND ALARM SYSTEM OR SOMETHING TO KIND OF INCORPORATE THE I KNOW THAT'S REALLY LIKE MINCING WORDS THERE.
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF LOCK THAT IN FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WHAT I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT LANGUAGE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T INTEND TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEN THE LANGUAGE IS HOLDING, YOU KNOW, WE DO EVERYTHING WE SAY WE'RE GONNA DO AND THEN THE LANGUAGE IS LIKE NOT CLEAR ENOUGH ON WHAT WAS REQUIRED.
ALRIGHT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT'S OR STAFF? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION CONDITION.
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 24 22 5.
I, I KNOW YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION.
I DID WANT TO, UH, SOME OF THE GUIDANCE I HAVE IS TO MAKE THE 25% WINDOW COVERING THING, PART OF THE MOTION, PLEASE.
SO LET'S, LET'S JUST, YOU, YOU HAD ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT THE WINDOWS NOT COVERING THE CASH.
RE IF YOU WANT TO SPECIFY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
NO WINDOWS, NO WINDOW COVERINGS THAT OBSTRUCT ANY VIEW OF THE CASH REGISTER AREA.
AND TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE SECURITY SYSTEM.
SO CAN WE SAY, WITH, UM, PARAMETERS OUTLINED BY THE COUN, THE COMMISSION Y, YOU COULD MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION WITH THOSE PARAMETERS AND THEN REER THE MOTION IF HE HASN'T FINISHED HIS MOTION YET.
JIMMY, YOU GOT, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU DID.
WOULD YOU RATHER MAKE THE MOTION THAT, OR IF I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD TO AMEND IT OR GO RIGHT AHEAD.
I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT IF GO, GO FOR IT.
SO LET ME GET MY LITTLE SUGGESTED THING OUT HERE.
[9. Consider recommendation of ZDC-24-2025]
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 20 20 24 DASH 2025 ZONING CHANGE FROM A GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT TO A PD NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AND ALSO, UH, LIMITING ANY WINDOW COVERINGS TO 25%, NOT ALLOWING ANY WINDOW COVERINGS, UH, TO OBSTRUCT ANY OF THE CASH HANDLING AREAS AND TO AMEND THE PD STANDARDS, UM, TO SAY A MONITORED SECURITY AND ALARM SYSTEM CONNECTED TO A LICENSE SECURITY PROVIDER AND PUBLIC SAFETY AUTHORITY.UH, AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND OR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[10. Public Hearing on a request by Dennis Church, Minto Communities Texas, LLC, for a Zoning Change from Planned Development-Mixed Use Residential (PD-MUR), Single Family-1 (SF-1), Future Development (FD), and General Retail (GR) zoning districts to a Planned Development (PD) zoning district, located at 300 Brookside Road (Property ID’s 179468, 179534, 182520, 187960, 189323, 189326, 189333, 189336, 192306, 193815, 193822, 193823, 234203, 263786, 264568, 303651, 303652) – Owners: Walton Texas LP, United Presbyterian Homes, William & Leanne Kelley (ZDC-232-2024)]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY DENNIS CHURCH, MINTO COMMUNITIES TEXAS LLC FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MIXED USE, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICTS TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 300 BROOKSIDE ROAD OWNERS, WALTON, TEXAS, LP, UNITED PRESBYTERIAN HOMES, AND WILLIAM AND LEANNE KELLY.
AS YOU MENTIONED, AGENDA ITEM 10 FOR ZDC 2 32 DASH 2024 IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST FOR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
CURRENTLY UNDER THE WORKING TITLE OF THE KEMP TRACK, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS MINTO COMMUNITIES.
BEFORE I GET INTO, UH, THE NITTY GRITTY OF THE DETAILS HERE, I WANNA, UH, LET THE COMMISSION KNOW OF A FEW ITEMS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE FROM THIS MEETING TO THE NOVEMBER 10TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS THEY'RE AWARE OF SOME STAFF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED THUS FAR.
THE PROPOSAL THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT, THEY'D LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF IS STILL GONNA PROVIDE A BRIEF PRESENTATION HERE JUST TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE PROPOSAL AND GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACT ON THE CASE TONIGHT.
THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR YOU WILL BOTH BE
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AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AND THE DEVELOPER FROM THEIR SIDE OF THINGS AFTER THOSE PRESENTATIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.SO, DIVING INTO THE PROPERTY HERE, DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTY IS UNDER A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST? RIGHT NOW IT'S TITLE, THE EMORY LAKES PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST IS COVERING ABOUT 2,800 ACRES IN TOTAL.
HOWEVER, THIS REQUEST HERE IS INCLUDING A LITTLE MORE, A FEW HUNDRED ACRES, 3,169 ACRES TO BE EXACT.
THE BULK OF THAT EXTRA ACREAGE IS ACTUALLY LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
CURRENTLY IT'S IN THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OR ETJ OF WAXAHATCHEE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT CARVED OUT HERE.
THIS ACREAGE IS STEMMING PRIMARILY FROM THE INCLUSION OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHILDREN'S HOME PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
SO IN TOTAL, THEY'RE UP TO THAT 3000 ACRES.
THERE WILL HAVE TO BE AN ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, THAT TAKES PLACE BEFORE THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING REQUEST CAN BE FULLY APPROVED OR IMPLEMENTED BY CITY COUNCIL SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT.
A FEW MORE DETAILS OF THE REQUEST TO NOTE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ZONING RELATED ITEMS IS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MUNICIPAL MAINTENANCE OR MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S AN MMD.
THIS IS A SPECIAL DISTRICT, UH, THAT IS IN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY OR PROPOSE TO BE IN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY TO FUND AND MAINTAIN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS SUCH AS PARKS OR IRRIGATION, LANDSCAPING, DETENTION OR DRAINAGE AREAS.
WHAT THIS SPECIAL DISTRICT DOES IS IT IMPLEMENTS AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY THAT FUTURE OWNERS MAY REALIZE AS ANOTHER, UH, TAX ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL.
THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENT RATE FOR THE DISTRICT IS 80 CENTS PER $100 A PROPERTY VALUATION.
JUST BY WAY OF COMPARISON, THE CITY'S CURRENT PROPERTY TAX RATE IS 61 CENTS.
SO THE PROPOSED MMD ASSESSMENT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 131% ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE REALIZED.
IN ADDITION TO THE CITY TAX RATE, WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT FIGURE IS YOUR COUNTY TAXES, SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES AS WELL.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THIS PROPOSAL DOES INCLUDE A TOTAL OF 13,270 DWELLING UNITS ACROSS THE 3,100 ACRES THAT'S COMPRISED OF UP TO 11,880 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1,390 AND 2,560 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THE EXACT NUMBERS OF UNITS THAT ARE ALLOCATED IN THOSE SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DISTRICT, BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO DOES THE PROPOSAL PREVENT MORE THAN 13,270 DWELLING UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED HERE.
BY WAY OF COMPARISON, THE EXISTING ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH AGAIN INCLUDES A FEW HUNDRED LESS ACRES, ALLOWS FOR UP TO 8,955 DWELLING UNITS IN TOTAL.
THAT BREAKDOWN OF UNIT DIFFERENTIAL IS ABOUT 5,700 SINGLE FAMILY AND 3,100 MULTIFAMILY.
BY WAY OF COMPARISON, THE ESTIMATED POPULATION AT BUILD OUT THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, IS 33,902 INDIVIDUALS.
BASED ON CURRENT COG ESTIMATES, THE EXISTING ZONING WOULD BRING A BILL OUT APPROXIMATELY 22,800 INDIVIDUALS.
THE AVERAGE, OR NOT AVERAGE, BUT OVERALL IN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE SITE IS 4.1 DWELLING UNITS.
AND I SAID PERMIT, I REALLY MEAN PROPOSED.
IF THEY BUILD OUT ALL THOSE 13,270 DWELLING UNITS, THEY'RE LEFT WITH AN AVERAGE OF 4.1 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT CAN BE COMPARED TO THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 3.1 OVERALL DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
MOVED DOWN TO THE CONCEPT PLAN TO NOTE THE FIVE MAJOR DISTRICTS THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.
UH, FIRST IN RED, MOST VISIBLY YOU CAN SEE THE MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THERE'S 133 ACRES ALLOCATED TO THE MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR, UH, A RANGE OF USES BETWEEN RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, UH, AND RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IN YOUR PACKET ALSO INCLUDES SOME ALLOWANCES FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
THE STAFF HAS CONCERNS WITH, WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT.
THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, THE EMORY LAKES PD HAS 308 ACRES DEDICATED TO MIXED USE.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE.
EMORY LAKES ALSO HAS ANOTHER 172 ACRES OF STANDALONE RETAIL DISTRICT THAT'S PROPOSED.
SO IN, IN TOTAL 480 ACRES IN THE EXISTING ZONING OF MIXED USE OR, OR GENERAL RETAIL DISTRICTS THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SITE, BUT PRIMARILY BASED ALONG THE I 35 CORRIDOR AND THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY HERE WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A, A TOWN CENTER, UH, TYPE AREA THAT IS NOT PRESENT WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.
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REDUCING THAT MIXED USE ACREAGE AND ELIMINATING THE STANDALONE RETAIL ALTOGETHER.THEY'RE ALLOCATING THAT PRIMARILY CLOSE TO THE I 35 FRONTAGE.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN YELLOW HERE IS THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN THINK OF AS A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
FAMILIES OF ALL AGES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND ACRES AND COULD COMPRISE UP TO 4,200 UNITS APPROXIMATELY.
IN BLUE YOU'LL SEE AN ACTIVE ADULT DISTRICT.
THIS IS A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND ACRES THAT'S AGE RESTRICTED OR PROPOSED TO BE AGE RESTRICTED TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE 55 PLUS WITH THE PRODUCT ON THE GROUND IN TERMS OF HOMES TAILORED TO THAT DEMOGRAPHIC.
THE BROWN COLOR THAT YOU'LL SEE ON SCREEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS THE FLEX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY 900 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE FLEX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AS PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE TRANSITION INTO EITHER THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE ACTIVE ADULT DISTRICT.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF LEAVING IT FLEX RIGHT NOW IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE TO TAILOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE TO MARKET CONDITIONS, UH, WHETHER THAT BE THE ACTIVE ADULT OR THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY.
SO THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE TWO DISTRICTS WHEN DEVELOPED.
THE FINAL DISTRICT THAT I'LL POINT OUT ON HERE, THE DEDICATED DISTRICT IS MULTIFAMILY.
THERE IS JUST A COUPLE SMALL TRACKS DEDICATED STRICTLY TO MULTIFAMILY.
ONE IN THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN ORANGE AND ONE ALONG FM 1446.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN ORANGE AS WELL.
AREAS ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC DISTRICTS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT BUT WORTHY OF POINTING OUT ARE SCHOOL SITES AND SPECIALTY PURPOSE PARKS.
THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE IS PROPOSING TO DEDICATE ACREAGE FOR UP TO THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITES AND ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE ALONG WITH SPECIALTY PARKS.
IN TOTAL, THE SCHOOL SITE DEDICATION WOULD BE COMPRISED OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 49 AND 54 ACRES, DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE.
YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH HAS A DEDICATION REQUIREMENT OF FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITES IN ONE JUNIOR HIGH TOTALING 85 TO A HUNDRED ACRES.
THE PURPOSE IN THE REDUCED SCHOOL DEDICATION PROPOSAL HERE IS THE INCLUSION OF THE AGE RESTRICTED DISTRICT.
OF COURSE BEING AGE RESTRICTED THERE, UH, ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE CHILDREN THERE THAT WOULD BE SERVED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE OUT.
ADDITIONALLY, ON THE SITE YOU'LL SEE A FEW AMENITY CENTER TRACKS THAT ARE POINTED OUT AS WELL AS A WELCOME CENTER.
THESE ARE LOCATED WITHIN YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND YOUR MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
THEY'RE NOT STANDALONE DISTRICTS, AND WE WILL GET INTO THE PROPOSAL FOR THOSE AREAS IN A LITTLE BIT.
I WANT TO COVER THE LARGEST ASPECT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENT.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED 12 DIFFERENT SINGLE FAMILY LOT TYPES.
THOSE LOT TYPES RANGE IN SIZE FROM THE SMALLEST REQUIRED LOT SIZE OF 2,250 SQUARE FEET UP TO THE, UH, LARGEST MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT SIZE OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU CAN SEE THAT LARGEST LOT IDENTIFIED ON THE SCREEN TO THE LEFT HERE.
A LITTLE LOAD OVER HALF OF THE 12 TOTAL PROPOSED LOT TYPES ARE PROPOSED TO BE ALLEY LOADED OR ALLEY ACCESS, SO NO GARAGE ON THE FRONT, BUT WITH THAT EXTRA INFRASTRUCTURE OF ALLEYS ON THE REAR OF THE SITE.
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WE GET INTO SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
YOU'LL NOTE A COMMON THEME IS THE REAR YARDS ARE, ARE QUITE SMALL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REAR ENTRY.
UH, AND EVEN WITH THE FRONT ENTRY PRODUCTS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE PROPOSED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY LOT TYPES, BUT ARE IN REALITY.
UH, WHAT WE, YOU WOULD TYPICALLY RECOGNIZE AS DUPLEX OR QUADPLEX STYLE STRUCTURES ON, UH, LOTS THAT HAVE LOT LINES RUNNING THROUGH THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE, A PAIRED VILLA OR THE COURTYARD VILLAS, THOSE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THOSE DUPLEX STYLE STRUCTURES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SINGLE FAMILY LOCK COUNT.
YOU CAN COMPARE THESE LOT SIZES, AGAIN, 2,250 SQUARE FEET AND 6,000 SQUARE FEET AS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.
LOT RANGE TO THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A LARGER RANGE OF MINIMUM LOT SIZES.
IT RANGES FROM 2,200 SQUARE FEET, SO QUITE COMPAR COMPARABLE TO THE LARGEST MINIMUM REQUIRED SIZE OF 12,500 SQUARE FEET.
SO DOUBLING THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SIZE OF THIS PROPOSAL, THERE IS A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAS WITH THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE PROPOSALS.
CERTAINLY IT IS AN OPTION TO DEVELOP LARGER LOT SIZES.
UH, THESE ARE JUST MINIMUMS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO DEVELOP THOSE LARGER LOT SIZES.
AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY OF A RESIDENTIAL NATURE,
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UH, FOLLOW THOSE MINIMUM STANDARDS AS OPPOSED TO GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN AS A REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT DEVELOPED.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE TAKEN FROM MINTO COMMUNITIES ELSEWHERE WHERE THEY'VE DEVELOPED ON THE EAST COAST OF SOME OF THE STAFF'S CONCERNS.
WITH THESE MINIMUM LOSS SIZES, YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW DENSE THAT GETS WHEN YOU'RE PAIRING SOME OF THESE COTTAGE TYPE, THE, THE QUADPLEX OR DUPLEX TYPE PRODUCTS, UH, CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THAT SINGLE FAMILY LOT TYPE WITHOUT SUFFICIENT OR ADEQUATE LOCK MIX REQUIREMENTS OR, UH, MINIMUM LOSS SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
I'VE TAKEN JUST A SNIPPET HERE OUT OF THE STAFF REPORT TO COVER.
JUST BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STYLE HOMES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS, AS, UH, REQUIRED HOME TYPES OR, OR OPTIONAL HOME TYPES THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED.
THIS ONE IS THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY STYLE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE HOME HAVE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS THAT ARE LABELED ON HERE.
THESE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A KEY ELEMENT CHART.
SO THE WAY THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS DESIGNED AS IN ORDER FOR A PARTICULAR HOME TO FALL UNDER A STYLE CATEGORY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THESE KEY ELEMENTS THAT ARE PRESENT ON THE HOME.
SO YOU CAN SEE THESE HERE LISTED, FOR EXAMPLE.
THESE KEY ELEMENTS ARE NEEDED IN ORDER FOR A HOME TO BE CONSIDERED A CERTAIN STYLE.
BUT THERE IS A RANGE OF OF STYLE CHOICES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS BUILT INTO THESE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT OFFER SOME FLEXIBILITY.
THEY RANGE FROM TRADITIONAL TO TRANSITIONAL UP TO BOLT TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT TAKES ON THOSE HOME SIZES OR HOME STYLES TO TRY AND INTRODUCE SOME VARIETY WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL STYLES.
FINALLY, THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDED SOME GOOD GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS OF WHAT EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL STYLES MAY BE REPRESENTED BY WITH DIFFERENT HOME TYPES.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE STORY AND TWO STORY FRONT LOADED AND REAR LOADED PRODUCTS THAT ALL MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO FALL UNDER THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY DESIGN GUIDELINES.
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HOME STYLES PROPOSED AND VARIABILITY WITHIN THOSE HOME STYLES, STAFF STILL DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE ANTI MONOTONY PROPOSAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE CURRENT MINIMUM WAXAHATCHEE STANDARDS FOR ANTI MONOTONY.
YOU CAN SEE THIS DIAGRAM ON SCREEN HERE THAT DEPICTS, UH, SOMETHING THAT COULD COLLOQUIALLY BE REFERRED TO AS LOT SKIP, RIGHT? THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN BETWEEN HOMES THAT HAVE THE EXACT SAME ELEVATION.
SO THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ONLY REQUIRE ONE HOME TO BE IN PLACE BETWEEN HOMES THAT ARE IDENTICAL, UH, AND STAFF IS IS SERIOUSLY CONCERNED WITH THAT, WITH A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SCALE, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING 11,880 INDIVIDUAL HOMES AS THE COMPUTER CRASHES.
THAT, UH, THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT VARIABILITY.
SO WE WILL WAIT FOR THAT TO RESTART.
UM, TO GO THROUGH OUR GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION.
I APOLOGIZE, VICE CHAIR, IF WE WANNA TAKE A BRIEF INTERMISSION HERE.
IF ANYONE NEEDS A BATHROOM BREAK OR ANYTHING, LET'S, YOU GOT A LITTLE TIME.
WHAT HAPPENED IS THE EMORY CRASH, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THE SAME PEOPLE, NO VICE CHAIR.
WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
I'LL WRAP UP THE PRESENTATION SHORTLY.
UM, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN JUST A MOMENT.
THAT THERE'S OPEN BAR JUST CATERED BY THE SIDE POCKET
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TAXES.YOU FIGURED THAT HE WOULDN'T TEAR DOWN TREES.
GOOD PORTION OF YESTERDAY, ABOUT FIVE HOURS.
THEY WERE, YEAH, THIS, THEY WANTED TO GIVE US A MAGIC TOUCH.
SO THAT NOW MEANS YOU, WELL, I GUESS I COULD HAVE GRABBED PLEASE IT BE LIKE IN CONGRESS.
HE SAY, I, I I DEFER MY TIME TO HONORABLE MR. AND THAT MEANS YOU LIKE 15 TO TALK.
GOT A NEW COMPUTER BACK ONLINE IF Y'ALL ARE READY.
SO WE'LL GO NEXT TO THE OPEN SPACE PLAN.
A FEW THINGS TO CALL OUT HERE.
THERE'S 400 ACRES TOTAL OF OPEN SPACE THAT ARE PROPOSED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS, UH, COMPARABLE WITH THE SAME 400 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED OF THE EXISTING EMORY LAKES DEVELOPMENT.
WITH THIS PROPOSAL, APPROXIMATELY 45 TO 50 ACRES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
EMORY LAKES HAS APPROXIMATELY UP, UP TO 63 THAT ARE ALLOWED, UH, TO BE CONTRIBUTING IN THAT FLOODPLAIN, UH, OPEN SPACE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, DOES NOT EQUATE DIRECTLY WITH PARK SPACE.
CERTAINLY THERE ARE PARKS AND AMENITY CENTERS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT 400 ACRE TOTAL.
BUT SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THAT 400 ACRE OPEN SPACE TOTAL INCLUDE TRAILS, UH, ALONG LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, UH, ALONG PRIMARY THOROUGHFARE TRAILS WITHIN, UH, EASEMENTS, LINEAR EASEMENTS THAT ARE PRESENT ALONG WITH LINEAR PARKS.
OPEN SPACES SUCH AS LANDSCAPE BUFFERS OUT TRAILS OR DETENTION AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE PROPOSED TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT 400 ACRE OPEN SPACE TOTAL.
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THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A MENU OF AMENITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN EACH DEDICATED PARK IN THE DEVELOPMENT.THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARKS THAT ARE PROPOSED, SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE PRIVATE, UH, PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
THOSE ARE GONNA INCLUDE POCKET PARKS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE REPRESENTED BY THE SMALLER ASTERISK HERE ON SCREEN, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE LINEAR PARKS THAT ARE PROPOSED ALONG EASEMENTS, UH, TO INCLUDE TRAIL NETWORKS.
THE LARGER GREEN SPACES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS EXHIBIT HERE REPRESENT, UH, SPECIALTY PARKS IN SOME CASES, AND THE LIGHT GREEN'S GONNA REPRESENT A REGIONAL TRAIL PARK ALONG WAXAHATCHEE CREEK.
TO PORT A NOTE, NOTE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF THE TRAIL SEGMENT, UH, WITHIN THE WAXAHATCHEE MIDLOTHIAN REGIONAL TRAIL NETWORK.
THAT'S, UH, SOON TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, BY THE CITY.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT THEIR PORTION OF THAT TRAIL AND DEDICATE PARKLAND AROUND IT, UH, TO THE CITY.
THE, AS WE'LL GET INTO IN A BIT, THE STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE AMENITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED WITHIN THOSE PARKS THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY, CITY, THE SPECIALTY PARKS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THESE REGIONAL TRAIL PARKS.
IT STANDS TO REASON IF THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE GONNA BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
THE CITY DOES NEED TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA BE PROPOSED THERE SO THAT WE CAN PREPARE, UH, AND MAKE SURE IT'S FEASIBLE TO ACTUALLY OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THOSE PARKS.
SO THAT'S SOME INFORMATION WE'VE GOT CONCERN WITH, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL.
THERE'S A THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT'S PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS EXHIBIT THAT IS BASED UPON THE WAXAHATCHEE 2024 THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
UH, IT DOESN'T MATCH IT EXACTLY.
THERE'S A FEW NOTABLE DIFFERENCES.
THERE IS ONE LESS CONNECTION PROPOSED TO FM 8 75, THEN OUR 2024 THOROUGHFARE PLAN CALLS FOR.
UH, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DOES CALL FOR FOUR IN TOTAL.
ONE OF THE OTHER DIFFERENCES YOU'LL SEE IN YELLOW HERE IS THIS RING ROAD AROUND THE CENTER OF THE SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT'S IDENTIFIED ON THE WAXAHATCHEE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, BUT IT'S A PROPOSED ENHANCED LOCAL STREET.
UH, THIS DEFINITION OF ENHANCED LOCAL STREET WOULD INCLUDE SOME, UH, OVERSIZED LANDSCAPE, UH, BUFFERS AND ISLANDS ALONG THE EXTERIOR OF THE STREETS, ALONG WITH SOME ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING, UH, TO CREATE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO VISTA WAY THAT YOU MAY SEE IN THE NORTH GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS STILL PROPOSED TO BE BROOKSIDE DRIVE.
I'M PULLING UP A MORE DETAILED EXHIBIT OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR BROOKSIDE DRIVE HERE AS IT CONNECTS TO I 35.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE DETAILS HERE, THAT THERE IS WITH PHASE ONE, A REQUIREMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO, TO PROVIDE, AT THE VERY LEAST, AN EMERGENCY SERVICES CONNECTION OUT TO FM 8 75 TO PROVIDE A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS TO THE INITIAL PHASES OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SHOULD THERE BE AN EMERGENCY AS THE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO, UH, PROGRESS? SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT WOULD BE OPENED FOR UTILIZATION BY, UH, CONSTRUCTION CREWS AND EQUIPMENT AS WELL, UH, BEFORE EVENTUALLY BEING OPENED AS A FULL PUBLIC SECONDARY POINT OF ACCESS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PREPARED A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TIA TO EVALUATE WHEN SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC SECONDARY CONNECTIONS OR TERTIARY CONNECTIONS TO FM 1446 WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UH, THE CITY'S NOT SATISFIED WITH THE STATUS OF THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T THINK IT SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS OR IDENTIFIES THE APPROPRIATE TIMELINE FOR SOME OF THOSE CONNECTIONS TO BE MADE AND CERTAINLY DOES NOT ADDRESS THE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS TO FM 8 75 BROOKSIDE ROAD OR THE BROOKSIDE BRIDGE, UH, THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE LACK OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR STACKING ONTO THE MAIN LANES OF I 35 WITH ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF THE BROOKSIDE ROAD PROPOSAL, THE CURRENT EMORY LAKES PD CALLS FOR THIS PRIMARY ACCESS POINT, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE TO TRAVERSE THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE ON BROOKSIDE ROAD.
THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES A REQUEST TO MOVE THAT THOROUGHFARE NORTH OF THE CURRENT RESIDENCE ON BROOKSIDE ROAD AND PROVIDE A DIRECT JUNCTION INTO THE PRIMARY THOROUGHFARE THAT THOSE RESIDENTS WOULD THEN USE AS THEIR PRIMARY ACCESS POINT SHOWN HERE.
IT'S A FOUR LADEN DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE THAT DOES REPLACE THAT, UH, QUADRANT OF BROOKSIDE ROAD AND KELLY BI THAT'S PRESENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BRIDGE RIGHT NOW WITH JUST A SINGLE INTERSECTION ON THE SOUTH OF THE THOSE RESIDENTS.
YOU'LL NOTE ON THIS EXHIBIT, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND OPEN SPACE TRACK THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED JUST WITH EMERGENCY ACCESS AND A MULTIMODAL TRAIL SYSTEM
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FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND RESIDENTS TO USE.THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE SOUTH OF THOSE RESIDENTS.
A BUFFER IN A SMALLER DEGREE IS ALSO PROPOSED ALONG BROOKSIDE ROAD.
GETTING INTO THE SCREENING PLAN, THE WAXAHATCHEE BAY ZONING ORDINANCE DOES CALL FOR A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO BE PRESENT ADJACENT TO MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS WHEN WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT.
THIS PROPOSAL, UH, HAS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
UH, THEY HAVE PROPOSED THAT IN YELLOW HERE.
WE WILL GET TO THE EXAMPLES IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, THAT INCLUDES JUST LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, NO WALL.
IT'S MEANT TO BE A MORE ACCESSIBLE, UH, OPEN SPACE WITH TRAILS THAT TRAVERSE THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AS OPPOSED TO, UH, WALLING THEM OFF FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SCREENING TYPE TWO, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN BROWN ON THE SCREEN, UH, IS PROPOSED BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND GENERAL RETAIL, OR MIXED USE, I SHOULD SAY, USES AND THOSE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS A QUICK SNIP OF SOME OF THOSE SCREENING EXAMPLES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
THEY'RE BOTH PROPOSED TO BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET WITH SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING.
AND IN THE CASE OF THE PRIMARY THOROUGHFARE SCREENING, TYPE ONE INCLUDES A BERM AS WELL AS SOME SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING SCREENING.
TYPE TWO INCLUDES SOME, UH, SHRUBS IN ADDITION TO THE CANOPY AND ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN TO WHERE THE DEVELOPER CAN CHOOSE TO, UH, PROVIDE LANDSCAPING IN LIEU OF THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL, OR REDUCE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING BURDEN BETWEEN THOSE, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS, AND STILL PROVIDE A MASONRY WALL SIGNAGE PLAN.
BRIEFLY, YOU'LL SEE ON SCREEN HERE THE PRIMARY, SECONDARY AND TERTIARY ENTRY SIGNAGE THAT'S PROPOSED.
THESE WOULD JUST BE THE, THE MAJOR, UH, SIGNAGE INSTALLATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND A FEW KEY POINTS, THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE BRANDING HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, HAS NOT PROVIDED SPECIFIC DESIGNS FOR THESE PRIMARY ENTRY SIGNAGE.
THE EXHIBITS YOU SEE ON SCREEN HERE IS JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF SOME OF THE MAXIMUM DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGNAGE THAT'S PROPOSED.
AGAIN, THERE, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC DESIGN, BUT FOR THE PRIMARY ENTRY SIGN ALONG I 35, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, SOME EXCESS ALLOWANCE OR OVER THE CURRENT WAXAHATCHEE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, TO GO FROM A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT FEET UP TO 60 FEET AS A MAXIMUM, UH, WITH SOME BLADE PROJECTIONS HORIZONTALLY AS WELL.
THIS ON SCREEN HERE IS SOME ILLUSTRATIVE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER.
HERE YOU CAN SEE A, A WIDER VIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT INCLUDES A BIT MORE DETAIL OF THE INITIAL PHASES OF RESIDENTIAL AND AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLES ARE NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE SIMPLY MEANT TO, UH, PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT COULD DEVELOP ON THE SITE BASED ON THESE STANDARDS.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE ACTUAL BINDING PLAN DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THE WRITTEN STANDARDS FOR THEIR REQUESTS DO NOT REQUIRE WHAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN TO BE DEVELOPED.
UH, FAR, FAR FROM IT, THEY DO NOT REQUIRE THE LOT MIX THAT IS SHOWN HERE.
UH, THESE LOT SIZES SHOWN HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES THAT ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR THE SITE.
IN A SIMILAR FASHION, YOU'LL SEE A ILLUSTRATIVE EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET FOR SOME OF THE MIXED USE AND AMENITY DISTRICTS.
THESE ARE NOT BINDING, UH, AND ARE NOT REPRESENTED BY THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.
IT'S CRUCIAL TO NOTE THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, DO NOT REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE TO REFLECT THE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN HERE.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN THAT THAT STAFF HOUSE, UH, WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CURRENTLY, UH, IS THEY DO NOT RESULT, UH, OR, OR GUARANTEE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WILL RESULT IN THE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN HERE, WHICH IS, UH, QUITE DESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HERE.
SEGWAYING INTO SOME OF THE GENERAL CONCERNS THAT I'VE ALLUDED TO THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION HERE.
UM, BIG PICTURE IS, IS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE, ARE GENERALLY INSUFFICIENT TO ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL ALIGN WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE EXHIBITS, UH, THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET AND THAT YOU'LL SEE PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER HERE.
UH, THESE EXHIBITS CERTAINLY COULD REPRESENT DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT COULD, AGAIN, IN THEORY, DEVELOP UNDER THOSE STANDARDS, BUT IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO BE DEVELOPED.
UH, SO FOR US, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS A ADDITIONAL MMD ASSESSMENT RATE OF 80 CENTS PROPOSED FOR THE PROPERTY, IT IT'S PARAMOUNT THAT WE ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE NOT JUST ENFORCEABLE, BUT ARE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY
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HERE.AND, AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE.
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THE DEVELOPER HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO CONTINUE WORKING ON, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS IN YOUR PACKET.
I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE, UH, LINE BY LINE, BUT STAFF HAS OUTLINED SPECIFIC CONCERNS WITH THE PD PROVISIONS AT LENGTH.
UH, THOSE RELATED TO OUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BUILDING MATERIALS.
ANTI MONOTONY, UH, LOT MIX IS A CRUCIAL ELEMENT TO AVOID ANTI MONOTONY.
THERE IS WHOLLY INSUFFICIENT LOT MIX REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UH, AS I MENTIONED IN THAT EXHIBIT FROM EXISTING MENTO COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN PLACE ON THE EAST COAST, UH, WE CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WILL RESULT WITHOUT SUFFICIENT LAW MIX REQUIREMENTS THAT'S NOT DESIRABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY HERE.
UH, THOSE SPECIFIC CONCERNS ALSO EXTEND TO PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND DEDICATION, UH, LAND USES THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CURRENT STANDARDS.
THERE'S ALSO SOME VARIED CONCERNS WITH, UH, ALTERNATIVE PLAN REVIEW STANDARDS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS REQUEST THAT CIRCUMVENT, UH, THE CITY'S CURRENT, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS.
ANOTHER ITEM TO NOTE FOR THE COMMISSION IS THE DEVELOPMENT DOES ALLOW FOR AMENDMENTS TO THIS PD TO BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY STAFF THAT, UH, WOULD TYPICALLY AND STAFF WOULD ARGUE, SHOULD, UH, BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE CURRENT PROVISIONS ALLOW, UH, ANY NUMERICAL STANDARD, FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE ALTERED BY UP TO 10%, UH, AS WELL, UH, AS SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES BEYOND THAT WITHOUT, UH, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO THE CONCERN THERE IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE IS THAT CHANGES EVEN 10% HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRASTICALLY ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF BUILD OUT.
SO, UH, THERE IS STAFF CONCERN THERE.
REALLY, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE PD SHOULD GO THROUGH.
THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS SHOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, AND FINALLY, THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT CONCERNS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN A LITTLE GREATER DETAIL RELATED TO BROOKSIDE ROAD AND THE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS WHEN ISSUING PUBLIC NOTICES FOR THIS REQUEST, STAFF DID RECEIVE 12 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
SOME OF THOSE LETTERS WERE NOT RECEIVED IN TIME TO MAKE IT IN THE OFFICIAL AGENDA PACKET.
SO YOU'VE GOT THOSE AT YOUR DESK IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, FOR REFERENCE, WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN MIND, STAFF IS PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL OF THE PD REQUEST WITH PREJUDICE.
UH, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACT ON THE REQUEST TONIGHT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION OR THE DETAILED REPORT.
I KNOW IT IS QUITE EXTENSIVE, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.
THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA COME UP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT, UH, AND DISCUSS THEIR REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE AND POTENTIALLY GO THROUGH THEIR OWN PRESENTATION.
THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL ASK A QUESTION.
UM, ZACH, IS IT UNUSUAL IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, UM, FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ALMOST DOUBLE OUR CITY TO BE, UM, TO USE A TECHNICAL TERM, SO LOOSEY GOOSEY WITH OUR, UM, PERMITTING PROCESSES AND OUR, OUR PLANNING STANDARDS, UH, THE REQUEST ISN'T NECESSARILY ABNORMAL.
UH, I WILL NOTE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAXAHATCHEE HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE.
UH, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ALTERNATIVE PERMITTING PROCESSES SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS WITH SUCH, UH, FLEXIBILITY.
UH, THE FLEXIBILITY THAT'S PROPOSED, UH, IS, IS BENEFICIAL TO THE DEVELOPER WITH A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE AS, UH, I'M SURE THEY'LL NOTE, RIGHT? THIS IS OVER 3000 ACRES.
IT IT WILL TAKE, UH, YEARS TO DEVELOP.
AND IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT EXACTLY WHERE THE MARKET WILL BE AT FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMES OR FOR MIXED USE OR, OR COMMERCIAL USES WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT MAY TAKE 20 YEARS TO BUILD OUT.
SO THAT FLEXIBILITY IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY UNCOMMON TO ASK FOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A CONCERN FOR THE CITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE, UH, STANDING HERE TONIGHT, UH, CAN'T TELL YOU AS STAFF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE RIGHT WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED.
AND, AND THAT'S A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WITH A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA BRING, UH, THIS NUMBER OF UNITS.
THIS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, UH, TO, TO WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, THE, THE CITY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT'S, UH, NEEDED TO MAKE A DECISION, AN APPROPRIATE DECISION, UH, ON, ON WHERE THE COMMUNITY SHOULD GO IN THE FUTURE.
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WAXAHATCHEE, YOU KNOW, 150 YEARS TO REACH A POPULATION OF, OF 33,000, UH, IN, IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT IF APPROVED.UH, AND, AND THE DEVELOPER IS ABLE TO, TO MOVE, UH, AT THE SPEED THEY WANT TO, COULD BE BUILT OUT IN, IN 10 TO 20.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PLANNING OF THE PROJECT, OF THE WHOLE PROJECT ALL FACETS, RIGHT? THE FIRST TIME.
ZACH, YOU MENTIONED THE 12 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION WHERE THERE'S ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UH, CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, CAN THE APPLICANT COME UP PLEASE AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME'S RICHARD ROSER, AND I LIVE AT 2 0 8 KATY LAKE, HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE, TEXAS COMMISSIONERS.
AND, AND, UH, LADY CHAIR, CHAIR LADY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HAVING US TONIGHT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT TO COVER HERE, AND I'M, I'M GONNA TRY TO, WE, WE ACTUALLY WANTED JUST TO COME AND KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I'M SURE THERE'S A THOUSAND QUESTIONS, AND WE WE'RE, WE'VE GOT ALL THE EXPERTS HERE TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO ANSWER EVERYTHING.
SO IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO TONIGHT, WE CERTAINLY WILL BE HERE.
AS LONG AS Y'ALL WANNA BE HERE AND ANSWER EVERY QUESTION WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ANSWER FOR YOU.
THIS, UH, PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY HAS A HISTORY ALREADY WITH THE CITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PRO, THERE WAS A COMPANY THAT CAME IN, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE THAN A MINUTE.
UH, BUT, UH, MINTO, UH, COMPANY OUT OF FLORIDA AND, UH, CA IN CA UH, CANADA, EXCUSE ME, UH, STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT OVER A YEAR AGO AND HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR, UH, QUITE A FEW MONTHS.
BUT EVIDENTLY, AND I WANT TO KIND OF BE UP FRONT, I GUESS THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT, UH, CONFESSION IS GOOD FOR THE SOUL.
SO WE, UH, WE KIND OF GOT OFF TRACK, EVIDENTLY ON THE STAFF SIDE A FEW WEEKS A WEEK OR SO AGO.
AND, AND, UH, WE DIDN'T GET THEM SOME OF THE INFORMATION THEY WANTED, AND THAT EVIDENTLY, UH, CAUSED SOME BIT OF A PROBLEM, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT HAPPENING.
I'M SORRY THAT, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE AS WELL AS WE OUGHT TO.
AND, AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TRY TO RECTIFY ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS. BUT, UH, WE SPENT ABOUT FOUR HOURS WITH STAFF ON MONDAY.
UH, AND I THINK IT WAS OVER FOUR HOURS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH IN DETAIL, ALL 65 CONCERNS THAT THEY LISTED IN THEIR REPORT THAT THEY SENT TO Y'ALL.
WE FELT LIKE WE WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.
NOW WE'RE WORKING HARD TO ANSWER THOSE.
WE'VE GOT ALL OUR CONSULTANTS WORKING TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IN DETAIL AND TRY TO GET FULLY ANSWERED AND, AND WHERE THE COMP WHERE THE CITY'S COMFORTABLE WITH.
BUT WE FELT LIKE WE HAD A GOOD, UH, GIVE AND TAKE AND A GOOD, UH, VERY GOOD RAPPORT.
WHEN WE LEFT THAT MEETING, I WAS KIND OF DISCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT MAYBE IT WASN'T QUITE AS GOOD AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT, UH, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE TRYING TO PULL IT QUICKLY ON ANYBODY.
WE'RE NOT HERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO NOT, WE WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, THE COMMENT WAS MADE A MINUTE AGO.
IT TOOK 150 YEARS TO GET TO 33,000.
WELL, WHEN PEOPLE WERE COMING IN WAGONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE NIGHT, IN THE 18 HUNDREDS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN TODAY.
AND FROM 1990 FROM, UH, 2001, WE WERE 192,000 IN S COUNTY.
SO THIS PLACE IS CHANGING FAST AND IT'S GONNA CHANGE.
AND I KNOW WE ALL LIKE THE, THE RURAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE, AND, AND THE THINGS THAT WE, EXCUSE ME, ENJOY ABOUT OUR, UH, ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, BUT IT'S QUITE SIMPLY PEOPLE WANT A DIFFERENT STOP TYPE OF HOUSE AND THE, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, AND, AND IT IS MORE DENSE.
YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND YOU, YOU FOLKS IN 2023 CALLED FOR MORE DENSITY, SAID THE CITY NEEDED TO BUILD MORE DENSE TO, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND THE TAX BASE AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, NUMBER ONE, TO ASK YOU FOR A CONTINUANCE SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK, UH, WITH YOU ALL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT ANY ASPECT OF WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENT.
UH, MINTO, I, ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MENTO.
MINTO IS A 70-YEAR-OLD DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
THEY'RE NOT JUST IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, THEY ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.
THEY BUILD HOUSES, UH, THEY BUILD COMMUNITIES.
THEY BUILD ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE DON'T REALLY HAVE IN ELLIS COUNTY AND OR WAXAHATCHEE.
UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING OLDER MYSELF, I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT MAYBE THE POSSIBILITY OF SEEING THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE, I KEEP TELLING THEM, WHERE'S THE GOLF COURSE AT? BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT'LL HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY AREA.
UH, AND IT'LL HAVE A FAMILY AREA, A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT FOR, I DON'T WANT, I WON'T SAY TRADITIONAL FAMILY 'CAUSE I GUESS THOSE ARE ALL
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OUTDATED TERMS NOW, BUT, UH, BUT A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WHERE WITH CHILDREN IN THE ADULT DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN'T HAVE KIDS.IT'S RESTRICTED TO 55 AND ABOVE.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BY, BY DEED, IF YOU WILL, UH, RESTRICTED.
BUT THEY, THEY HAVE BUILT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 70 YEARS.
THEY STARTED IN CANADA, MOVED TO THE EAST COAST AS, AS, UH, ZACH SAID, UH, DID QUITE A FEW DEVELOPMENTS, UH, ON THE EAST COAST IN FLORIDA AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND, UH, THEY'VE BUILT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOMES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER.
TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE PICKED OUR COMMUNITY TO COME AND, UH, BRING THIS REALLY EXCITING DEVELOPMENT.
IF Y'ALL HAVE LOOKED AT THEIR, UH, DEVELOP DEVELOPMENTS IN FLORIDA, UH, ONE OF THEM, IT'S CALLED, UH, UH, MARGARITAVILLE, AND IT'S A REAL FLORIDA STYLE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IT'S GOT THE PAINTED, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT BRIGHT COLORS AND THE, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY CAME TO WAXAHATCHEE TO DO.
YOU'VE SEEN THEIR, THEIR ELEVATIONS AND THINGS.
SO THEIR GOAL IS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FITS INTO OUR CULTURE AND INTO, INTO, INTO TEXAS AND INTO WAH HATCH.
AND I THINK THEY'VE CAPTURED A LOT OF THAT.
THEY WENT DOWNTOWN ON MAIN STREET AND SAW SOME OF OUR BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, HOMES AND, AND, UH, SOME OF OUR GINGERBREAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND TRIED TO CREATE SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS IN THEIR, UH, IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
I HEARD SOMEBODY ASK OVER HERE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KEMP DEAL? WELL, THE KEMP RANCH WAS, UH, UH, OR THE, THE EMORY LAKES, EXCUSE ME, WAS, UH, PROPOSED BY A COMPANY CALLED WALTON.
AND WALTON IS A COMPANY THAT BASICALLY FACILITATES THE FLIPPING OF LAND.
THEY, THEY ENTITLE PROPERTY, THEY GET IT ZONED IN A CERTAIN WAY, AND THEN THEY FLIP IT TO DEVELOPERS OR BUILDERS.
WHAT WOULD GENERALLY HAPPEN IN THAT SITUATION, PARTICULARLY IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THIS LARGE, IT WOULD BE BROKEN UP AND SOLD OFF TO DIFFERENT BUILDERS TO BUILD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU BUILD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'LL BUILD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND INSTEAD OF BEING A, A, A WHOLE, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
SO, UH, WHEN MINTO CAME IN AND, AND THEN THEY WERE APPROACHED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, THEY SAID, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.
WE, WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WE DO A, A TOTAL PLANNED COMMUNITY.
OUR ADULTS DEVELOPMENT FITS OUR, OUR ACTIVE ADULTS FITS IN WITH OUR FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, OUR FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, OUR COMMERCIAL, AND OUR INDUS.
AND WE WANT TO BUILD, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WE BRING IN TO DO, TO BE MULTIFAMILY FIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN WITH A COMMERCIAL ARE THINGS THAT, UH, FIT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ARE WHAT, UH, WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
SO, UH, THIS LAND WAS ACTUALLY OWNED BY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY, BUT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY.
UH, AND MINTO OWNS ABOUT, NOT MENTO, EXCUSE ME.
WALTON OWNS ABOUT 5% OF IT, BUT, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT THEY DO.
THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY AND DO GOOD WORK.
IT'S JUST THIS IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND A DIFFERENT CONCEPT THAN WHAT, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED.
THE, UH, LET ME TOUCH ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS A HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGE PROJECT.
UH, THERE'S NOT AS, AND STAFF CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S NOT MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35.
THERE'S NO SEWER AND WATER HARDLY OVER THERE.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY GOING DOWN 35.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL OFF OF HIGHWAY 77.
WELL, HERE'S A GREAT PLACE FOR IT.
THIS PROJECT WILL BRING LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER, SEWER STREETS, SIGNALIZATION, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
UH, THAT, THAT WILL OPEN UP NOT JUST THIS PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT MUCH MOTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
AND HOPEFULLY ALONG 35, WE CAN SEE A CORRIDOR OF SOME RETAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET, GIVE US SOME OTHER PLACES TO SHOP AND DO THINGS EXCEPT ON, ON HIGHWAY 77, WHICH IS, AS WE ALL KNOW, GETTING VERY, VERY CROWDED.
SO, UH, IT'S GONNA BE MAJOR ROADWAYS, UTILITIES, SEWERS, ENABLING GROWTH.
AND BY THE WAY, UH, THE, THE MMMD TAX RATE, WE HAD ACTUALLY TALKED ON MONDAY WITH THE COUNT, WITH THE STAFF AND, AND, UH, ABOUT THAT, UH, THAT THE NUMBER THAT, UH, ZACH QUOTED IS, UH, IS A NUMBER THAT IT CANNOT EXCEED IT.
THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY SAYING, WE'RE GONNA SET THE RATE AT 80 CENTS.
BY THE WAY, THAT'S A COUNCIL DETERMINATION ON, AS FAR AS THE M AND M, UH, EXCUSE NOT M AND MMMD, UH, IS CONCERNED, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'RE, THERE'S A STUDY THAT THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, UH, SEWER AND WATER AND ALL THAT SORT OF THINGS YOU PUT IN, UH, GET PUT IN THE GROUND THAT DETERMINES WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TAX RATE WOULD BE.
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UH, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT HIGH.SO, UM, BUT IT WILL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, TONS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT WILL NOT BE ON THE CITY'S, UH, DIME TO BUILD.
UH, AND NOT JUST ON THE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, WELL, YEAH, WHEN YOU BUILD A HOUSE, YOU GOTTA PUT A SEWER LINE DOWN IN FRONT OF IT.
WELL, THIS IS GONNA HAVE SIGNIFICANT, AND WHEN I SAY SIGNIFICANT, I'M TALKING IN THE $50 MILLION RANGES OF, OF FACILITIES BUILT OFFSITE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL PAY FOR, THAT WILL FEED OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, HUGE SEWER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND JAMES CAN COMMENT ON THAT IF HE, IF HE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD MEETINGS WITH JAMES AND WORKING WELL WITH, UH, WITH HIS DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
THE, UH, THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHO'S THEY'RE GONNA PARTNER WITH TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL.
THEY BUILD HOMES AND STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT THEY DON'T BUILD, UH, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
SO THEY'LL BE PARTNERING WITH, WITH SOMEBODY THAT'LL COME IN AND DO THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK.
IT'S GONNA FIT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S GONNA FIT IN THE, TO TOTAL PLAN, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THESE GUYS GOT A VESTED INTEREST, YOU KNOW, IN MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY SUCCEEDS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA LET SOMEBODY COME IN THERE AND BUILD SOME WILD-EYED, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT MY POINT IS, UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE ZONING ORDINANCE THERE.
SO THE ZONING ORDINANCES CURRENTLY IN PLACE WOULD APPLY ON, ON THAT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PD TODAY TO COME IN AND SAY, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, PAINT THE BUILDINGS GREEN OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
WE'RE SAYING, WHEN THAT TIME COMES, WHOEVER THEY PARTNER WITH WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY.
THEY'LL DO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
THEY'LL FILE A, YOU KNOW, TO GET A ZONING CASE.
THEY'LL COME BEFORE THE PNZ, THEY'LL COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY'LL GET APPROVED.
SO, UH, WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR ANYTHING OUT OUTRAGEOUS BY NOT NECESSARILY LOCKING DOWN.
YOU HAVE TONS OF COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO ON IT, YOU KNOW THAT IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT ZONING DOES.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING.
IT COULD BE A GROCERY STORE, COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
UH, BUT, BUT, UH, SO WE'RE NOT ASKING TO, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT OUTSIDE THAT, UH, OUTSIDE THAT ZONE.
WE HAVE MET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UH, THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR SITES.
UH, WE WE'RE GETTING A LETTER FROM THEM THAT SAYS SO, BUT, UH, BUT THEY HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THAT WHAT WE'VE ALLOWED IS GOOD.
WE ALSO HAVE TALKED TO THEM WITH, UH, UH, TRAVIS SMITH COUNTY ENCOURAGED US TO TALK TO, HE'S ON THEIR PLANNING ON RANGE PLANNING COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER, AND HE HAD ENCOURAGED US TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF COMBINING SOME OF OUR PARK SITES TOGETHER WITH SCHOOL SITES.
SO IN ONE INSTANCE, ONE OF THEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A, AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MAYBE CONNECTED TOGETHER, BUT IN THE MIDDLE MIGHT BE A PARK AREA THAT BOTH CAN USE AND THE CITIZENS CAN USE.
SO A MULTI-USE TYPE OF SITUATION.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A LOT OF LITTLE PARKS, AND THERE STILL ARE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT ASIDE SOME VERY LARGE SPACES FOR SOME LARGE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR KIDS CAN COME AND HAVE SOCCER PRACTICE AND BASEBALL AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
MORE MIXED USE, KIND OF, UH, NOT JUST LIMITED TO A BASEBALL DIAMOND, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY CAN PLAY FOOTBALL OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS PLAY THESE DAYS.
UM, I THINK, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SO MUCH TO, SO MUCH TO HIT ON.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL YOUR TIME.
UH, BUT I WANT, I DON'T WANNA MISS ANYTHING.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BILL OSTROM.
BILL IS OUR, UM, ATTORNEY ON, AND HIS ZONING, HE IS A SPECIALIST IN ZONING, BUT HE IS ALSO AN ATTORNEY AND, AND LEADING US IN THAT.
AND THEN HE'S GONNA KINDA GIVE YOU A BETTER PICTURE OF THE ZONING PART OF IT.
AND THEN AGAIN, IF WE, IF WE NEED TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND REAL QUICK, COMMISSION, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT, UM, THE REPORT THAT WE, THE FINDINGS THAT WE PRESENT AS STAFF TODAY, UM, WERE THE, WAS THE REPORT THAT WAS PUBLISHED AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO WE ARE PRESENTING ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE MET WITH, UM, WE HAVE MET WITH THE MINTO GROUP, AND WE ARE WORKING ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE CONDITIONS AND THE CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR, UM, THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM ON THESE CONDITIONS, SEE HOW WE CAN GET THEM ADDRESSED.
MY NAME'S BILL DAHLSTROM, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
AS MR. ROSER SAID, I, I AM AN ATTORNEY, BUT I'M ALSO A, A, A PLANNER.
I'VE BEEN CERTIFIED FOR, FOR 24, 25 YEARS.
UH, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS KIND OF A LAND
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USE PRACTICE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICE FOR ALMOST 39 YEARS NOW.AND I'VE, I'VE, I'VE REALLY BEEN FORTUNATE TO SEE SOME REALLY GREAT DEVELOPMENTS IN MY CAREER.
UM, YOU KNOW, FRONT PAGE TYPE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY WOULD KNOW ABOUT.
BUT I CONSIDER THIS TO BE ONE OF THE TOP.
AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH STAFF, THERE'S SOME DETAILS WITH STAFF THAT WORK CONTINUING.
AS, AS TRENTON JUST SAID, WE UNDERSTAND.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME LONG MEETINGS TODAY.
WE'VE, UM, MADE SOME HEADWAY AS FAR AS SOME OF OUR RESPONSES AND CHANGES.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR, OUR COLLABORATION WITH, WITH, UH, CITY STAFF.
I MEAN, THIS IS A, A FANTASTIC PROJECT, AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE ON, ON BEHALF OF MINTO.
YOU, YOU WON'T FIND MANY COMPANIES THAT CAN DELIVER THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING.
I MEAN, A COMPANY THAT CAN TAKE THREE OVER 3000 ACRES, DESIGN IT, DEVELOP IT, PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND ACTUALLY BUILD IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S A VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND I, I, I'D PLANNED ON GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THE, UH, UH, PD, UH, CONDITIONS AND, AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
BUT, BUT, UM, UH, ZACH'S ALREADY COVERED A LOT OF THAT, BUT I, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
THIS IS A, A A A A, A GREAT PROJECT.
THIS IS ONE REALLY WORTH PURSUING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL H HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE ARE GONNA BE PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY RETAIL AND MIXED USE VENUES.
THOSE ARE ALL PROGRAMMED, UM, THE PARKS, THE AMENITIES, THE TRAILS, THE EXPANSION OF THE REGIONAL TRAIL THAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD AND DEDICATE TO THE CITY IN, IN ADDITION TO THE PARK, UH, THE SCHOOL SITES THAT MR. ROJA JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE CIVIC SITES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTING, COMMITTING TO PROVIDE, UH, THE, UM, I, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY COOL, AND WE'LL, I'LL HAVE A SLIDE LATER THAT, UM, I GUESS THE PARK BOARD CAME UP WITH, UH, A, A A A, WE'RE CALLING A SPECIALTY PARK RIGHT NEXT TO A, A, A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THAT THERE'S A, A JOINT USE OF THE PARK BY THE SCHOOL AND THE PUBLIC.
CONNECT THE TWO TRAIL SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROPOSING WORLD CLASS AMENITIES.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO AMENITY CENTERS, AT LEAST 40 ACRES, 20 ACRES EACH FOR THE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS, UM, LET ALONE THE FISCAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
I KNOW AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE TYPICALLY DON'T GET, TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT THESE ARE STAGGERING.
UM, AND, AND, AND A LOT OF THE, AS MR. ROSER ALSO SAID, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF THE LAND USES, THE MIXED USES, THE, UH, ATTENTION TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE ARE ALL CONSISTENT AND SUPPORTED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THERE WAS A QUOTE, I'M, I'M GONNA GO FORWARD.
THERE WAS A, A, A, A QUOTE IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT I, I REALLY, AS, AS A PLANNER, I, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.
UM, QUALITY OF LIFE IS MEASURED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS MEASURED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
WE ARE PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT FULL OF NEIGHBORHOODS, FULL OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO RESIDENT TO, UH, RETAIL, TO PARKS, TO TRAILS.
UH, IT IS A, UM, A TYPICAL TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITH MAJOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT HAVE, ARE VERY MONETIZED.
UM, TWO OF OUR MAJOR COMPONENTS ARE OUR TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL LIVING, WHICH, UH, AS ZACH SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A LARGE COMPONENT OF OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S CONSIDERED, CONSIDERED TO BE A TRADITIONAL, AS IT SOUNDS, TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACTIVE ADULT FOR THOSE 55 AND OLDER.
UH, SO, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S IT'S RESORT STYLE LIVING.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THESE.
UM, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE KIND OF LIFESTYLE WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE, THE ADULT ACTIVE ADULT AREA.
UM, THE, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, ILLUSTRATIVE PLANS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING JUST TO SHOW, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S INTENDED TO BE, UH, UH, AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT COULD DEVELOP THEIR, PURSUANT TO THE PARAMETERS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I'M SORRY, IN, IN, IN THE PD.
UM, TO A GREAT EXTENT, YOU CAN'T PROGRAM THESE THIS FAR OUT IN ADVANCE.
THIS ALL SHOULD BE MARKET DRIVEN.
OH, BY THE WAY, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO RECOGNIZES THAT THERE SHOULD BE FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, HAVE PROPOSED THIS, THIS FLEX USE AS WELL AS PROPOSING THESE, UM, UH, SHOWING THESE, UH, ILLUSTRATIVE PLANS THAT, THAT, THAT AGAIN, SHOWS WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED THERE.
AND YES, THEY CAN BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE PARAMETERS UNDER THE, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UM, AND AGAIN, TOTALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE PROVIDING MIXED USE DIVERSITY OF MAJOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES.
I HEARD 12 DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, QUITE A BIT OF WALKABILITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT IS
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A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S PLAN.CONVENIENT RETAIL AND SERVICE USES, SCHOOLS, PARKS, TRAILS, AND ENHANCEMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, QUALITY OF LIFE IS MEASURED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, THIS AGAIN, IS OUR CONCEPT PLAN THAT ZACH WENT OVER EARLIER.
IT, IT DOES SHOW OUR, UH, MAJOR DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRADITIONAL, THE ACTIVE ADULT, THE FLEX, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY, AND THE MIXED USE.
I THINK WHAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO REALIZE IN THIS, THIS PLAN SHOWS HOW WE ARE USING THE, THE ENVIRONMENT AS, AS A FRAMEWORK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING THE TRAILS ALONG THE, UH, THE WAXIE CREEK.
UH, WHAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT IS WE ARE PROVIDING, UH, CONNECTIVITY FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INTO THESE MAJOR TRAILS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, GREEN, UH, GREEN, UH, EXTENSIONS FROM THE CREEKS, THERE WILL BE TRAILS IN THERE THAT WILL PROVIDE THE CONNECTIVITY, BUT THERE'LL BE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE'VE GOT THE RING ROAD, WHICH ALSO IS A, IS A, UH, UM, FRAMEWORK COMPONENT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU, AGAIN, WE MENTIONED THE, UH, THE RETAIL AT THE, UH, INTERSECTION AT THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE, AND THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AT THE HIGHWAY, WHICH WE FEEL REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE AT A REGIONAL LOCATION.
A REGIONAL LOCATION SHOULD BE ON THE HIGHWAY.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE DRAG DRAWING ALL THAT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, AND, AND OUR NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY BASED ON MARKET STUDIES.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER DETAIL WE WANT TO PURSUE WITH, WITH THE CITY STAFF.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE ILLUSTRATIVE YOU SAW EARLIER.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A, A REGULATORY DOCUMENT.
THIS IS INTENDED TO BE ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT COULD DEVELOP THERE UNDER THE CURRENT PD THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND, BUT THIS SHOWS A LOT OF DETAIL, UH, AND AGAIN, BASED ON DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON THE, THE, THE CREEKS AND THE TOPOGRAPHY, IT'S GONNA LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S INTENDED TO BE ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT COULD OCCUR.
AND ON THE YELLOW, AGAIN, YOU SEE THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, AND ON THE PURPLE YOU SEE THE, THE, UH, ACTIVE ADULT.
THIS IS, AGAIN, UH, AN ILLUSTRATIVE, AGAIN, ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE, UH, TRADITIONAL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IS, DOES THIS, SAY AGAIN, AT THE LOWER RIGHT, RIGHT.
PART OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE, UH, TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN SEE OUR AMENITY CENTER, WHICH WILL HAVE, UH, AGAIN, WORLD CLASS AMENITIES WILL, UH, I HAVE SOME EXHIBITS SHOWING THAT AS WELL, BUT AT LEAST 20 ACRES FOR THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND AT LEAST 20 ACRES FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT.
AND THERE'S THE ACTIVE ADULT, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE, UH, AMENITY CENTERS ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.
UH, SIGNIFICANT CONNECTIVITY TO THESE, UH, WHICH PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO THE CREEK.
AND AGAIN, THE, UH, MIXED USE AT THE HIGHWAY.
WE FEEL THIS, THE, THE DESIGNATION ON THE CITY'S CONFERENCE PLAN IS, IS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE ON A REGIONAL ROAD.
AND THESE ARE THE TYPES OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT YOU, YOU COULD SEE HERE.
AGAIN, THEY'RE ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT COULD OCCUR THERE.
UH, THIS IS THE RETAIL COMPONENT, INTERNAL, THE INTERSECTION OF THE TWO STREETS INTERNAL.
UH, THIS I THINK IS A MAJOR HALLMARK OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IN, IN ADDITION TO ALL THESE BENEFITS OF THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY MIXED USE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAILS AND CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, UH, AND PARKS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I HEARD 400 ACRES, UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE, AGAIN, PLANS TO IMPROVE THESE OPEN SPACES AND, AND PARKS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, PD HERE IS THE, UH, AMENITY CENTER FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT.
AGAIN, AN ILLUSTRATIVE OF, OF HOW THIS COULD OCCUR.
BUT WE ARE TIED TO STANDARDS IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WILL REQUIRE THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AMENITY CENTERS.
WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A, A, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF AMENITIES WITHIN THE, UH, UH, AMENITY CENTER AS REQUIRED BY THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AMENITY CENTER.
SAME THING, ILLUSTRATIVE, OF COURSE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD OCCUR THERE, BUT WE ARE TIED TO SPECIFIC STANDARDS UNDER THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO PROVIDE THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE
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AMENITY CENTER.AND, UH, AGAIN, MR. ROSER TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, CONTACTING THE, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WERE PROVIDING UP TO THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITES IN ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE.
UM, THAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS IS THE, UH, UH, PARK FEATURE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHERE WE WILL HAVE A PROPOSING, UH, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A SPECIALTY PARK, WHICH HAVE ACTIVE PLAY FIELDS, ET CETERA, UH, CONTIGUOUS TO THESE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITES SO THAT THERE'LL BE, UH, JOINT USE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND, AND THE, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS CONNECTIVITY TO TRAILS AND, AND OTHER AMENITIES WITHIN THE AREA.
UM, GREAT USE OF PROPERTY, GREAT EFFICIENT USE OF PROPERTY.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I'M GONNA NOW TURN IT OVER TO LYNN KAPO, WHO'S, UH, ONE OF OUR ARCHITECTS TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, DESIGN ELEMENTS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, THERE ARE DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT AND WE ARE IN, HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF CONTINUING TO COLLABORATE WITH YOUR, YOUR, UH, CITY STAFF AND LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES.
HI, I AM L CAPSO, UH, SENIOR VP OF COMMUNITY PLANNING, PRODUCT DESIGN AND STRATEGIC MARKETING.
UM, WE, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, UH, A PROJECT THAT WE, UH, DID IN, UH, IN FLORIDA AND HOW IT REFLECTS THE, THE AREA IN WHICH THE PROJECT WAS SET.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING HERE TOO.
WE, WE WANT TO REFLECT THE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH THE DESIGN.
AND SO WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF TROUBLE IN, IN, UH, LAYING OUT WHAT THE HOMES, UH, COULD WIND UP LOOKING LIKE.
AND, UH, ALSO ADDED FLEXIBILITY FOR TIME, LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT STYLE IS GONNA BE IN, UH, BUT SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH TRADITIONAL VERNACULARS, UH, WE WILL, UM, WE, WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THERE.
SO I CAN GO THROUGH, UH, THIS, IF WE COULD DO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU SHOULD.
SO, UM, EXISTING, UH, ARCHITECTURE IN WAXAHATCHEE, WE HAVE, UM, UH, WE, WE'VE SPENT SOME TIME, UH, WALKING AROUND AND LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT HOMES AND STYLES THAT WERE IN HERE.
UH, I, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT ONE OF THE, UH, NICKNAMES FOR THE COMMUNITY IS, UH, GINGERBREAD CITY.
UM, AND, UH, LOOKING AT THESE BEAUTIFUL OLD HOMES, UH, IN THE CURRENT, UM, WAY THAT THE, UH, RESTRICTIONS WERE FORMED, YOU COULDN'T REPLICATE ANY OF THESE HOUSES.
AND, UH, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A SHAME.
UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT, NOT ALL OF THEM WERE REPRESENTED ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT ARE, UH, IN TEXAS AND APPROPRIATE TO THE AIR, THE REGION.
UM, UH, ONE, WE JUST PICKED ONE PARTICULAR STYLE OUT CALLED TEXAS FARMHOUSE.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THIS KIND OF STYLE.
UM, UH, AND WHAT WE DID FOR EACH OF THESE VERNACULARS IS WE, UH, LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE, WE'VE GAVE HER A, A, A PARTICULAR MODEL OF IT, UH, IN A DRAWING LIKE THIS AND TAGGED THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE STYLE.
ALSO, THEN CREATING THESE IN DIFFERENT TIERS, TIERS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, UH, WHICH ARE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS, UH, STRONG STYLE REINFORCERS, AND THEN ENHANCEMENTS.
UH, SO THERE IS, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU JUST ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE, AND THEN IT WORKS ITS WAY DOWN TO, UH, WILL HELP CREATE SOME DIVERSITY.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THIS APPROACH TOO.
THE WORD DIVERSITY IS TO DIVERSIFY THE STYLES.
WE DIDN'T WANT ONE COMMUNITY OF ALL THE SAME LOOK, UH, WE'VE SEEN COMMUNITIES SAY IN HOUSTON AND SUCH WHERE IT'S JUST WALL TO WALL, SAME COLOR, BRICK, BLACK ROOFS, AND BORING.
I MEAN, THIS IS A LARGE INVESTMENT.
WE WANT IT TO BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.
UH, SO THIS, THIS SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF OVER TIME HOW WE
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COULD TAKE ANY ONE OF THESE PARTICULAR, UH, DESIGN STYLES AND SORT OF, UH, BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH IT, UM, BEING TO THE LEFT, MORE TRADITIONAL, IN THE MIDDLE, MORE TRANSITIONAL, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT, A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE BOLD IN STYLE, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO.SO IT GIVES A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY THERE, UH, UH, AGAIN, SINCE WE'VE GOT 20 YEARS TO GO.
UH, AND THEN WHAT WE DID FOR EACH ONE OF THESE STYLES ALSO IS KIND OF GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT COULD BE APPLIED IN THE, IN THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, UH, BEING IT, UH, REAR LOADED, FRONT LOADED, OR ONE STORY OR TWO STORY.
AND SO WE GIVE, WE GIVE THOSE EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.
AND I THINK THAT'S IT ON MY PRESENTATION PART.
I'LL TAKE IT TO THE NEXT, I, I THINK WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION.
AND, AND THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM MAY COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
UM, WHEN YOU DO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE THE COUNTDOWN, JAMIE? OKAY, I'LL, I'LL JUST DO IT ON MY PHONE.
I LIVE AT SIXTY FIFTY NINE EAST FM 8 75.
AND THE REASON WHY I WOULD OPPOSE IT IS WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM.
WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC CONTROL PROBLEM, AND THAT CONTROL PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY IS A RAILROAD.
AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED KNOWING HOW THEY PLAN TO DEAL WITH THE RAILROAD DURING CONSTRUCTION AND POST-CONSTRUCTION ON A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY.
SO I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
IF YOU HAVE ONE, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS THE PROPERTY I'M ON AND HOW THAT TRAFFIC WORKS.
UM, AND DURING CONSTRUCTION, IT'S NOT GONNA BE CARS AND LIKE TRUCKS, IT'S GONNA BE HEAVY TRUCKS AND GRAVEL TRUCKS, DIRT TRUCKS, LUMBER TRUCKS ON A TWO LANE HIGHWAY.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S ALL GONNA WORK CONSISTENT WITH GOOD TRAFFIC PLANNING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT SO LONG.
UH, MY NAME IS JAMES FABY AND I LIVE AT 52 36 EAST FM A 75.
I HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE DEVELOPER.
SPECIFICALLY WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO HANDLE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT? RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALREADY DEVELOPING MAJOR ISSUES ON A 75 THAT NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE STATE HAS ADDRESSED.
PULLING OUT OF MY OWN DRIVEWAY IS DANGEROUS.
I DRIVE A DUALLY AND I OFTEN PULLED 20 FOOT TRAILER LOADED WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRYING TO MERGE ONTO 8 75.
IN THOSE CONDITIONS, WITH THE CURRENT SPEED LIMITS AND TRAFFIC VOLUME PUTS MYSELF AND OTHER DRIVERS AT A SERIOUS RISK.
THE AFTERNOON, AND ESPECIALLY THE MORNING SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BACKED UP SO BADLY THAT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN ONTO BUSINESS 2 87 FROM FMA 75.
WITH THIS NEW COMMUNITY, TRAFFIC WILL ONLY INCREASE AND SO WILL THE NUMBER OF TURN INS AND STOPPING POINTS ALONG THE ROAD.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A CITY AND AN ISD THAT IS ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH PORT PLANNING.
THERE ARE SCHOOLS CRAMMED ON THE EDGE OF TOWN NEAR A 75 IN BUSINESS 2 87, AND AN AREA THAT ALREADY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.
IT GENERATES, IT FEELS LIKE BETWEEN THE CITY, THE ISD IN THE STATE, EVERYONE DEMANDS SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS SEE OUR DOLLAR SIGNS, NOT THE REAL LIFE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THESE DEC THESE DECISIONS EVERY DAY.
SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT DOES THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER PLAN TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE STATE HAS MANAGED TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH WE ALREADY HAVE.
I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY WILL ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND IF YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE DOUBLING THE SIZE OF WAXAHATCHEE, YOU'RE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
YOU'RE JUST CREATING THE SAME ISSUE IN TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER PLAN TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC? THANK YOU.
I AM SURE, UM, STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE NUMEROUS TRAFFIC STUDIES REQUIRED AND LOTS OF CONSULTATION WITH
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TXDOT.UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT'S SUBMITTED THUS FAR.
UH, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, UH, WE DON'T FEEL IT CONTAINS THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, AND THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED, UH, REFERENCING SOME OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, OFFSITE, UH, WE FEEL IS INSUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, MOVING INTO THE LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WITH EVERY THOUSAND LOTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY, THAT UPDATES TO THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ARE PROVIDED THAT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC DETAIL ON HOW TO ADDRESS THE GROWING TRAFFIC ISSUE, UH, THAT COMES WITH CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT.
CAN I JUST ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? YEAH.
THE, UH, WE DID DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY CITY INFORMED US ON MONDAY.
THEY'D LIKE FOR US TO EXPAND THAT STUDY OUT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT AND WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.
UH, NO QUESTION THAT THE CONCERNS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT TRAFFIC, ANYBODY THAT LIVES HERE HAS THAT SAME CONCERN.
UH, AND, AND 8 75 IS A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, WE DON'T EVEN, DON'T EVEN TIE INTO IT, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR CHOICE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE COMMUNITY'S CHOICE.
BUT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST THE ECONOMY'S GONNA GROW AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT MAY BE YEARS BEFORE WE GET BACK THERE TO THAT POINT WHERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT MAY NOT BE, IT MAY BE FIVE YEARS, MAY BE SIX, WHO KNOWS, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO, YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE A ADDRESS MADE.
AND SO WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY AND TDOT AND WITH THE COG AND WITH, WITH THE RTC TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO, TO MAKE IN THE COUNTY AND SO FORTH, UH, TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE IS ALREADY, I BELIEVE, JAMES A SIGNALS LIGHT 4 2 87 AND AN 8 75.
UH, THAT'S IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.
ALRIGHT, IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP.
YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 9 4 5 LONE ELM ROAD, AND I'M NOT SURE I, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE THE MAP THAT WELL, WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY EXITS ONTO LONE ELM BEFORE THE OLD PLANS THEY DID.
WELL, IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WE KNOW TWO CARS CAN'T GET PASSED AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU GOTTA STOP ONE CAR AT A TIME CAN GO BY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW, HOW MUCH THIS IS GONNA BENEFIT US.
WHO'S PAYING FOR ALL THESE HIGHWAYS, ALL THESE ROADS, THE LOSS OF MY LAND, BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA TAKE MY LAND TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LOSE LAND, LOSE PROPERTY, ALL THE HOUSES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE TOO, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE HOUSES ARE WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE ROAD.
AND IF YOU GOTTA GO TO A FOUR-LANE ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA BE TAKING THE PROPERTY OR ELSE YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING THE HIGHWAY AS CLOSE AS ME AND YOU TO THE HOUSE, TO THE FRONT DOOR.
SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF BIG DREAMS ON THEIR PARTS, BUT THEY'RE GIVING US LAND FOR SCHOOL THAT US TAX PAYERS HAVE TO PAY FOR.
WE GOTTA PAY FOR THE SCHOOL TO BE PUT IN, YOU KNOW, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS ADDING A BURDEN.
WE CAN'T GET UP AND DOWN 77 NOW ON A FRIDAY BECAUSE IT'S TOO CROWDED TO TO, TO GO OUT TO EAT ANY PLACE.
YOU CAN'T GET UP AND DOWN 2 87 NOW, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REDEVELOP ALL THIS BEFORE WE DOUBLE OUR SIZE.
WE GOTTA THINK WE'RE JUMPING, WE'RE JUMPING LONG BEFORE WE SHOULD.
YOU GOTTA BUILD SOMETHING TO HANDLE THE POPULATION THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? I, I AM CYNTHIA PRESCOTT.
AND I'M PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT HE WAS SAYING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT NECESSARILY ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE HAVE A SPRING THAT FEEDS OUR LAKE, THAT WATERS OUR CATTLE
AND IF YOU START BUILDING AND TAKING LAND SO CLOSE TO OUR CREEK, I MEAN OUR SPRING, WHERE IT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND, THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
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AND IT NEEDS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.I LIVE AT 4 1 5 BROOKSIDE ROAD.
UM, SO JUST TO TAKE THE QUOTE, THE GENTLEMAN, THE ATTORNEY USED A SECOND AGO, QUALITY OF LIFE IS MEASURED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.
BUT THE WAY IT'S AFFECTING BROOK'S SIDE AND THE WAY THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE STATING, AND ALSO THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN OPPOSE I'D FIR I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY SAY, ZACH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.
WHAT YOU DID EARLIER REALLY EXPLAINS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS I THINK WE HAVE AS WELL.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU, WE, WE ARE, THE PROPERTIES ARE IN GOOD HANDS WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT, THAT THE GENTLEMAN HERE MENTIONED THAT HE WAS WILLING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK HE'S TALKED WITH SOME OF YOU CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAD SIX, FOUR HOURS, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME WHEN THESE MEN COME HERE IS THEY COME WITH, WITH, OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS AND AMENITIES THAT AND GREAT AND LOCAL, AND WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY AND WHAT THINGS THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD AND HAVE, AND THE GOOD THINGS, THE GOOD LIFE THAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS.
AND ALL I HEAR IS JUST A LOT OF YAPPING AND NOT A LOT OF FOCUSING ON THE DETAILS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
IF IT'S MEASURED BY WHAT HA WHAT WHAT PEOPLE WANT LOCALLY.
THEY'RE COMING TO YOU AND THEY'RE STARTING TO SAY, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE NOT DO THIS? AND I'M SURE YOU'RE STANDING UP AND SAYING, NO, YOU CAN'T.
YOU NEED TO WORK ON THIS, YOU NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU SAID YOU WERE, UH, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO JUST AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, SAY THAT I'M VERY HAPPY THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
AND I AGREE AND FULLY WOULD APPROVE JUST AS A CITIZEN, THE DENIAL THAT YOU GUYS SAID, UH, THAT YOU PROPOSE, UM, UNLESS UNTIL FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ARE HAD SO THAT THEY COME FULLY PREPARED AND READY, NOT ONLY WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO OFFER IN TERMS OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE LOCALLY WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS TAKES PLACE, SIR, BUT ALSO WHEN, IF THEY'VE TALKED TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE MET AND THAT THERE IS NO WIGGLE ROOM OF 10 ACRES OR WHAT WHATNOT IN TERMS OF WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING CAN AND CAN'T DO.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE GREAT JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I AM DRILLER FEAL 59 55 EAST FM 8 75.
IF YOU WIDEN 8 75, WHICH HAS TO HAPPEN, THERE'S NO, NO WAY AROUND IT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA ENCROACH AND, UH, YOU'RE GONNA RUIN MY, MY PROPERTY, UH, VALUE OF MY HOUSE.
'CAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE EASEMENT.
UM, PERHAPS JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
IF YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT LAND TO DEVELOP, HOW ABOUT YOU? HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE SOME OF THAT LAND, JUST A COUPLE OF WHATEVER, 40, 50 FEET AND LET'S BUILD THAT EXTRA TWO LANES ON 8 75 ON THAT LAND FROM THE BEGINNING AND NOT TAKE IT AWAY FROM US.
THERE'S A, THERE'S ENOUGH COVERAGE RIGHT THERE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I GUESS I BETTER DO.
MY NAME'S ANDERSON, MICHAEL ANDERSON, FOUR 13 BROOKSIDE.
GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE HERE.
IF YOU SEE THAT WORD BROOKSIDE RIGHT THERE.
IT'S KIND OF TELL THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MR. ANDERSON.
HOW HE S IT SAYS RIGHT THERE, MR. ANDERSON, WE NEED YOU TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD.
WELL, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT LAND, UH, KELLY AND BEER LAND, IT GOES BACK 40, 50, 60 YEARS.
BOTTOM LINE IS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE, A LITTLE BIT OF RECENT HISTORY.
UH, ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS DECIDE THEY FIX THE, THE FLOW BEHIND THE, AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY FIXED THE, THERE WAS A PROMISE THAT WAS MADE TO FIX BROOKSIDE ROAD IN 2012 WHEN THAT FLOW WAS BEGUN.
IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS PER SE, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ON BROOKSIDE ROAD GET TO DRIVE DOWN A HUMPBACK ROAD THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN REDEEMED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT WAS RECENTLY BROUGHT UP.
I'M NOW TOLD THAT PERHAPS THE ARMY
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WILL ACTUALLY DO WHAT THEY PROMISED.BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT WAS 13 YEARS AGO.
CITY COUNCIL THERE, UH, SEVERAL ARE THERE, ONE IS DEAD THAT I KNOW ABOUT DOUG IS GONNA, BOTTOM LINE IS YOU SAID OF OF THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE 200, OH 2000, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF HOMES.
I WON'T BE AROUND FOR MOST OF THAT, BUT I AM AROUND.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN YOU START BUILDING? AND WE JUST SUFFERED THAT WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TRUCKS THAT WENT DOWN AND PUT THAT WATER IN.
UH, THAT'S REALLY, YOU GOT LETTERS FROM PEOPLE.
BASICALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS, WE DON'T LIKE IT.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.
AND UP UNTIL RECENTLY WE, AN $80 MILLION HIGH SCHOOL SHOWED UP, WHICH TOOK MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO BRING WATER AND ELECTRIC TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL.
IT MADE A CAREER OUTTA THE WATER, A CAREER TO GET THAT WATER DOWN MAIN STREET.
THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING ON WEST OF 70 OF, UH, 35.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEVELOPMENT UP AND DOWN 35 RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, IT'S NOT WHERE THIS PLAN IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN DO THAT.
THERE'S NO INGRESS OR EGRESS FOR ANY KIND OF MAJOR DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOW WORKING WITH DMV.
THE 35 REQUIRES THE CURRENT ORIGINAL 19 57, 30 BIG SAM BIG IS TWO LANES OF FRONTAGE ROAD ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WHERE WE ARE, THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK AND A BRIDGE THAT HAS TO GO OVER, UH, A CREEK.
IT'S GONNA COST BETWEEN A HUNDRED, $200 MILLION ON EACH SIDE OF 35 E JUST TO GET US UP TO WHAT 1957 PLAN WAS.
IT CAN'T BE DONE AT BROOKSIDE ROAD.
BROOKSIDE ROAD 4 0 1 A WAS CONCESSION THAT DR. JACK KELLY GOT NITSA TO APPROVE SO THAT HIS HOME WAS NOT CUT OFF FROM DOWNTOWN.
I WASN'T AROUND FOR ANY OF IT, BUT I'VE HEARD THE STORIES AND UNFORTUNATELY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN FOR THESE 2000 HOMES IS THAT'S GONNA BE REMEMBERING WHAT HAPPENED HERE TODAY AND OR THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS WHEN YOU FINALLY DO GET TO START BUILDING THOSE HOUSES.
BUT WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING THOSE HOUSES, YOU'RE GONNA BE BUILDING ROADS AND WATER AND ELECTRIC AND DITCH WITCHING AND ALL OF THAT IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF US.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE IN THAT LITTLE GRID RIGHT THERE.
AND OUR DIS OUR COMMUNITY, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, THE ONE WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND IS GONNA BE DISRUPTED.
THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
PROMISES KEPT FOR FIXING THE ROAD IN FRONT OF US 13 YEARS LATER HAS FAILED.
AND I EXPECT THERE'LL BE PROMISES THAT WILL FAIL IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC HEARING? YES SIR.
MY NAME IS, OH, IF I DON'T KNOCK THE MIC OVER.
I RESIDE AT SEVEN 11 BROOKSIDE ROAD.
SO THAT WOULD BE AT THE, UH, VERY END OF THE LITTLE GRAY SQUARES THERE, UM, TO THE WEST.
AND, UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO KINDA NOTE, UM, OUR OPPOSITION, UH, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A MONSTROUS, LEMME SAY THAT AGAIN.
A MONSTROUS IMPACT ON THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UM, JUST WANNA LET YOU ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN SOME FEDERAL LITIGATION WITH THE, UH, WITH CURRENT OWNERS OVER INGRESS AND EGRESS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND USED FOR THE PAST 45, 50 YEARS OR SO.
UM, BUT IT'S, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE, THE NEW ACCESS FROM BROOKSIDE ROAD, WHICH LOOKS GREAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO RIDE DOWN TO THE CORNER ON MY BICYCLE AND GO TO WENDY'S.
BUT, UH, IN REALITY WE'VE GOT BIGGER PROBLEMS. BUT WE OWN A, UH, FARM AND RANCH OPERATION THERE OF ABOUT 350 ACRES.
AND THAT IS OUR ONLY CURRENTLY BROOKSIDE ROAD IS OUR ONLY ALL WEATHER PUBLIC ACCESS, UH, TO SOME OF OUR FARM, SOME OF OUR HAY FIELDS AND, AND CULTIVATED PROPERTY.
AND I'M NOT REAL SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA GET A 30 FOOT WIDE COMBINE DOWN THAT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL BOULEVARD TO GET TO
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OUR FARM.'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REROUTED.
UM, FOR, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE CURRENT PLANS ARE GONNA END BROOK, THE CURRENT BROOKSIDE ROAD AND FOR THE RESIDENTS ON BROOKSIDE ROAD, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
THEY DON'T WANT ALL THAT THROUGH TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THEIR LITTLE TWO LANE ROAD.
UH, BUT THAT TWO LANE ROAD HAS REALLY WIDE DITCHES AND REALLY DEEP WITCHES DITCHES AND WE CAN GET TRACTORS AND COMBINES UP AND DOWN THERE AND CATTLE TRAILERS AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT'S PENDING LITIGATION RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY HAVE COME TO THE TABLE, UH, WITH SOME OPTIONS, BUT AS OF THIS EVENING, THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED YET, UH, AND WORKED OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO OPPOSED TO THE ENORMOUS DENSITY THAT'S GOING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S THAT, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST DOUBLING THE POPULATION OF WHAT'S IN THE CITY PROPER.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF DETAILS.
AND I DO WANNA, I DO WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO PLANNING.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB SO FAR, UH, TRYING TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.
SO YOU GUYS, UH, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BOARD HERE, THE WAY THE THE SUP IS PRESENTED, YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN ENDS AND IN A, IN A, UH, OR NOT THE SUP I'M SORRY, IN THE, UH, PD, I'M SORRY YOU USED THE WRONG TERM THERE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
THAT SHOULD BE A BIG CONCERN TO ALL OF YOU, I WOULD THINK.
AND, AND I THINK A LOT MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE AND, AND A LOT MORE DETAILS NEED TO BE NAILED DOWN BEFORE ANYTHING WOULD BE APPROVED.
UM, AND THEN TRAFFIC, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, TRAFFIC IS HUGE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT IN MY HISTORY HERE, I HAVE NOTICED THAT TDOT DOES IMPROVEMENTS AFTER EVERYTHING ELSE HAS FAILED.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN 2 87 AND SEE HOW MUCH OF A TRAFFIC PROBLEM WE HAVE THERE.
YOU CAN LOOK AT FERRIS AVENUE, HIGHWAY 77, PERHAPS I SHOULD CALL IT.
DEPENDS ON WHICH END OF IT YOU'RE ON.
UM, WHERE TRAFFIC IS ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS.
TXDOT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE TO.
AND USUALLY THEN IT'S 10 OR 15 YEARS AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, I, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THE COUNTY OR TDOT IN MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE GONE PAST NEEDING TO.
UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ISSUE ON 1446.
YOU CAN LOOK AT FM 66 RIGHT NOW, ANY MORNING OR EVENING, AND IT'S BACKED UP PAST SCARBOROUGH FAIR VIRTUALLY TO MAY PEARL ALMOST.
UM, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A LIGHT THERE, RIGHT? SO, AND A LIGHT IS NOT GONNA FIX THE CAPACITY, RIGHT? YOU NEED FOUR MORE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO, UM, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO VOICE THOSE CONCERNS.
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUYS AND, UH, FOR YOUR GUYS' JOB.
AND YOU'VE GOT A, A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, SORRY.
DEAN MEYER, 6 0 5 BROOKSIDE ROAD.
UM, WHEN MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE THERE ON BROOKSIDE IN 2007, UH, SANFORD SMITH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER HIM, BUT I ASKED HIM AT THE TIME, I SAID, HEY, UH, ONE LEVER BECOME OF ALL THIS PROPERTY BEHIND US AND IN FRONT OF US, BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BASICALLY A CATTLE IN FRONT OF US AND CATTLE BEHIND US.
WE GET THE CITY BENEFITS, GET THE FIRE AND POLICE PROTECTION, BUT WE GET A LOT OF BENEFITS OF THE COUNTY.
AND I SAID, HEY, SANFORD, WHEN, WHEN DOES THAT ALL GONNA CHANGE ON ME? HE SAID, DEAN, HE SAID, IT'LL BE 25 YEARS BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENS.
AND YOU KNOW, THE GUY WAS PRETTY SMART,
SO, UM, I'M A LIFELONG CITIZEN OF WA OF ATCH.
I WAS BORN HERE, I WAS RAISED HERE, AND I'VE SEEN, I I GREW UP ON 1446 OFF OF LONE AM ROAD TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
SO, UH, I KIND OF, MY FAMILY KIND OF GOES FROM BOTH ENDS OF TOWN.
BUT, UM, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY THAT, UM, I, WE'RE GONNA STOP PEOPLE FROM DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
THAT'S, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT.
I'M TRYING TO DEVELOP SOME STUFF AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THINGS DONE.
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AS A GROWN ADULT THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN IN FRONT OF US AND SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN IN BEHIND US.AND I CAN'T SAY I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOT NECESSARILY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, SO, AND IN MY PERSONAL LIFE, IN MY PERSONAL BUSINESS, Y'ALL KIND OF KNOW WHAT I ALSO DO.
SO MORE HOUSES I BUILD, THE MORE MONEY I MAKE, YOU KNOW, SO, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN I SAY? BUT, UM,
SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, REPRIEVE FROM JUST MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
BUT, UM, THE THING THAT, THE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNED, I MEAN, THIS THING IS, I CAN'T REALLY WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS WHOLE THING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PLANS AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE RENDITIONS AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT GONNA EVER PROBABLY LIVE THERE.
I DON'T THINK I'LL SELL MY HOUSE AND MOVE ACROSS THE, THE BERM TO GET INTO ONE OF THOSE 55 PLUS, WHICH I QUALIFY FOR.
UH, BUT, UH, THE THINGS THAT I'VE, SHE SAID IT PERFECTLY A WHILE AGO, SHE SAID, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LOOSEY GOOSEY STUFF.
AND THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A GREAT, UH, POINT I THINK FOR YOU GUYS, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE GONNA START GETTING PEOPLE ON BOARD TO, TO AGREE TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, THIS SOUNDS GREAT.
UH, IN MY OPINION, Y'ALL ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE.
THE CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA AGREE TO IT.
WE'RE GONNA DO PHASE ONE WHEN WE WE'RE GONNA DO PHASE ONE, PHASE ONE, WE'RE GONNA DO PHASE TWO SECOND, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO PHASE EIGHT AND THEN COME BACK AND DO PHASE ONE LATER ON AS THE MONEY COMES IN OR THE, OR THE, OR THE LOTS GET SOLD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ME.
AND, AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL, AM I, ZACH, AM I RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO GO PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE.
THEY CAN LAY OUT ALL THE PHASES, BUT THEN MIGHT NOT EVEN DO PHASE ONE, WHICH IS, I THINK AS OF IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IS RIGHT BEHIND, IT'S THE ACTIVE ADULT.
AND THERE'S A, SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA DO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, WHICH ARE TWO ACTIVE ADULTS AR AREAS, IF THEY'RE TRULY GONNA BE RIGHT BEHIND ME AND, AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I'M GONNA PROBABLY SNEAK OVER THE BERM AND GET IN A SWIMMING POOL AND AND ENJOY SOME OF THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU UNTIL THEY CATCH ON.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT, UH, HELL, I MIGHT GET OVER THERE AND EAT DINNER OVER THERE OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UH, MY POINT IS, IS WHEN THIS ALL KIND OF FINALLY HAPPENS, IF IT DOES HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR THE MENTAL GROUP TO JUST SIT DOWN AND SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DO.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE OURSELVES ALL THIS 10% FLEXIBILITY, OR WE'RE GONNA TRY TO CIRCUMVENT Y'ALL GUYS AND JUST USE THESE GUYS TO MAKE THESE APPROVALS.
YOU KNOW, BE BE FORTHRIGHT AND, AND JUST BE HONEST WITH US AND SAY, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA LAY IT OUT AND THIS IS THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
AND I THINK YOU'D GET A LOT, A LOT MORE RES GOOD RECEPTION FROM PEOPLE, UH, IN THE LONG RUN BY BY DOING THAT.
THE OTHER PART THAT I HAVE, AND I KNOW WE'RE TIRED AND I KNOW WE'RE READY TO GO HOME, BUT, UM, THIS COMING IN OFF OF BROOKSIDE ROAD COURSE, Y'ALL GOT SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.
OKAY, LET'S JUST SAY YOU'RE TALKING 10,000 PEOPLE, 10,000 FAMILIES.
YOU'VE GOT TWO CARS PER FAMILY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT NO TELLINGS.
HOW MANY CARS ARE THEY GOING IN AND OUT PICKING UP KIDS FROM SCHOOL AND COMING OUT AND TO THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO ALL THE WAY DOWN 8 75 AND COME IN THE BACK OR COME DOWN 1446 AND COME OUT, THEY'RE GONNA ALL TRY TO COME IN OFF OF BROOKSIDE ROAD AND THIS, IT'S, WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THAT EXIT RAMP THAT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR BACKUP.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SERVICE ROAD.
LIKE, UH, THEY MENTIONED, HE MENTIONED A WHILE AGO THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF TEXDOT IS EVER GONNA PUT THAT IN, BUT YOU KNOW, WAH HATCH'S MAIN ENTRANCE INTO W HATCHIE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON BROOKSIDE ROAD.
THAT'S WHY THEY BUILT THAT BRIDGE FOUR LANES WIDE IS BECAUSE THAT'S OUR GRAND, YOU KNOW, GRAND
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EX ENTRANCE INTO TOWN.AND I'M AFRAID WITH WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT, IT'S GONNA BE SO CONGESTED AND SO CONSUMED THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA END UP BEING THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO TOWN BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA BE SO FULL OF CARS AND SO FULL OF TRAFFIC THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WELL, I WANT TO GO IN ON FOR CAN TRAIL TO COME INTO TOWN NOW.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH THAT BIG OF A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA COME IN ON THAT, ON THAT ROAD.
IT'S JUST, YOU THINK A LIFE SCHOOL UP THERE ON 35, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY PICK UP KIDS, THAT THING BACKS UP ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT SERVICE ROAD.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE SCHOOL
BUT LIKE I SAID, HEY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AND KUDOS TO YOU FOR THAT.
BUT LET'S, LET'S TRY TO KEEP THE, LET'S JUST BE HONEST AND OPEN AND, AND, AND NO LOOSEY GOOSEY STUFF.
LET'S, LET'S PIN STUFF DOWN FOR THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR US FOR OUR SANITY, I GUESS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? AND I PROMISE I WON'T TAKE UP MUCH TIME.
MY NAME IS KATHY CAEL AND I AM 4 0 5 BROOKSIDE ROAD.
I HAVE LIVED THERE AND YOU, Y'ALL BROUGHT UP ALL THIS WONDERFUL STUFF WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING.
JUST WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH THE SEWER WATER? WE HAVE ONE SEWER PLANT HERE.
WHO'S GONNA HANDLE ALL THAT DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M, I'M OKAY, BUT Y'ALL DON'T, Y'ALL WON'T, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SEWER LINES GOING AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET 'EM INTO THE CITY? GO UNDER THE HIGHWAY.
I WANNA SEE YOU DO THAT BECAUSE EITHER THAT OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD ONE CLOSE TO ME, WHICH WILL MAKE, WHICH WILL REALLY MAKE ME STINK.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEWER PLAN.
WELL, BUT THEN IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO TO OURS THEN, ISN'T IT? AND THAT PART OF THE CITY, DON'T WE HAVE TO PAY THE TAXES ON THAT? YES, WE DO.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A MASTER PLAN FOR WATER TREATMENT, RIGHT? BUT I, I DON'T KNOW ANY DETAILS.
AND THEN YOU THEN SOMEONE, I THINK THE ATTORNEY SAID YOU HAVE A VEST VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.
YOU DON'T THINK BROOKSIDE ROAD HAS A VESTED INTEREST? LIKE WE HAVEN'T LIVED THERE 30 SOMETHING, 40 YEARS, 50 YEARS.
YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER AND YOU WANT US TO COME DOWN THAT ROAD AND NEGOTIATE FOUR OR SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC THAT IS A DETRIMENT TO OUR HEALTH.
THERE'S MAYBE 50 CARS OF US AT THE MOST OUT, OUT OF ALL OF OUR DIS OUT OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENCES, 25 MOST OF THE TIME DOWN THE ROAD.
AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE 2000 THROUGH THAT ROAD COMING IN AND GOING OUT.
I'M SORRY, THAT IS DETRIMENT TO MY HEALTH AND EVERYBODY ELSE ON THAT ROAD.
AND I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S ONE ACCIDENT THERE.
I WILL COME AFTER YOU MINTO AND MINTO IS A CANADIAN COMPANY AND DON'T THINK I WON'T TAKE 'EM ON BECAUSE I WILL.
IT IS A CANADIAN COMPANY AND I KNOW THAT MINTO IS, HAS A, UH, US SUBSIDIARY AND HOW THEY BUILT THAT IN FLORIDA.
AND I WANNA KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES DID THEY BUILD IN FLORIDA BECAUSE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOUSES THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT, WERE IN CANADA, NOT HERE.
THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOUSES THAT MENTO HAS BUILT, 90% OF THEM ARE IN CANADA.
AM I WRONG? SO, SO THAT'S JUST THAT ANYWAY.
AND THAT, AGAIN, THE TEXDOT CONCERN IS 'CAUSE THAT COMING OUT THE ROAD RIGHT THERE, IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THE EXIT OFF OF THE HIGHWAY COMES IN THERE.
IT'S NOT FAR, IT'S NOT WHERE THEY WANNA PUT THAT AT.
OUR ROAD GOES STRAIGHT OUT, IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF WHERE THAT QUALIFIES.
AND YOU COME IN AND YOU PUT A SIX LANE OR FOUR LANE ROADS RIGHT THERE, CUT OFF OUR ROAD, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ACCIDENTS THERE AND THERE'S NO LIGHT THERE.
AND I SAID, PUT A STOP SIGN ON Y'ALL SIDE.
IT'S LESS NEGOTIATION FOR 25 FOR THE 7,000 CARS TO NEGOTIATE 25 THAN IT IS FOR US TO NEGOTIATE 7,000.
THEY WON'T PUT, THEY WON'T PUT A STOP SIGN ON THEIR SIDE, BUT THEY WILL ON OUR SIDE WHERE WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE 7,000 CARS OR THE 2000 OR HOW MANY EVER WAS THERE THAT MORNING.
AND I'M SORRY, I COME TO, I WORK AT A SCHOOL AND I COME IN, UH, ON
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2 87 BUSINESS AND IT WAS BACKED UP TODAY, UHHUHIT WAS BACKED UP TODAY PAST THE, UH, UH, THE CENTER WHERE THEY DO ALL THE, THE CEMETERY MARKS PAST THAT, THAT FAR.
AND THEN COMING THE OTHER WAY, IT'S THE SAME THING.
AND IT SAYS PHYSICAL AND ECONOMIC, UH, BENEFITS.
WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT'S THE PHYSICAL BENEFIT TO BROOKSIDE ROAD? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO US? WHAT IS IT QUESTION? THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE THAT SHOULD BE ANSWERED.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY KIND TO ME ALL THE TIME.
'CAUSE I'M THE MOUTH OF BROOKSIDE ROAD AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT AND, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE TWO TIMES ALREADY AND, UH, TAKEN THEM ON AND I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY GENERAL AND I PUT, I PRESENTED A LETTER TO Y'ALL FROM THE, FROM FIVE OF THE RESIDENCES AND THERE'LL BE SOME MORE OF THEM THERE.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THAT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU THERE.
THE, THE, THE LETTER THAT I PRESENTED TO THE, THE SET PLANNING AND ZONING AND, UH, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU SPOKE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALL, BUT FROM WHAT I SEE ON THE PLANS, THE SCHOOL SIZE IS NOT, THE SITE SIZES IS NOT WHAT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUIRES.
IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE SCHOOLS.
AND AGAIN, IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT, PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT.
AND UM, THEN YOU'VE GOT, TRAILS ARE PLANNED.
THE HATCH, YOU ALREADY HAS THAT TRAIL PLANNED.
AM I WRONG? THE CITY ALREADY HAS THAT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO MIDLOTHIAN, HAVE TRA HAVE WALKING TRAILS DOWN, DOWN BROOKSIDE, UH, DOWN WAXAHATCHEE CREEK.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT A THING.
AND I NEED THE OTHER, ONE OF THE OTHER ONES BROUGHT UP THAT HAS, WHERE YOU HAVE THE PARKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I'M SORRY, THE GREEN PART ON THERE, THAT RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS, I CAN'T READ WHAT THE DARK GREEN IS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS PLEASE? THOSE ARE LINEAR PARKS.
THAT'S IN A CONSERVATION AREA.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DO ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, ACTUAL, UH, ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE? THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONSERVATION AREA.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
YOU CAN'T PUT A TRAIL IN, YOU CAN'T PUT CONCRETE IN, YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THERE THAT BEEN, THAT, THAT COMES AGAINST THE NEGOTIATION, UH, OF THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE ALREADY.
THAT IS A COM IS A, A SITE DESIGNATED BY THE STATE.
AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER THING DESIGNATED BY THE STATE.
THERE IS A POND THAT'S RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD THAT THEY WANNA PUT RIGHT THERE, CUTTING OFF BROOKSIDE ROAD.
THERE'S A POND THERE THAT COMES UNDER THE LINEAR FEET REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO THAT IS TEXAS WATER.
THAT IS NOT THAT PRIVATE LAND AND IT'S ON A WATERCOURSE.
AND THAT WATERCOURSE HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED ON THAT IN ANY OF THESE MAPS.
AND THAT WATER COURSE GOES IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE DOWN BROOKSIDE ROAD AND GOES INTO THAT POND.
THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE WATERCOURSE ON THERE.
AND THAT'S NOT DESIGNATED TO ANY OF YOUR PLANS THERE, NONE OF THEM.
AND YOU HAVE TO DESIGNATE THAT YOU CANNOT COVER THAT POND UP THAT IS OWNED, THAT THAT WATER IS OWNED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE LAND'S OWNED BY WHOEVER PURCHASES THE LAND.
BUT THE WATER IS NOT BECAUSE IT GOES INTO THE, THE POND ITSELF.
AND THAT'S, AND IT'S, IT'S PLENTY OF IT.
I'VE HAD IT ALREADY MEASURED BY THE, BY THE STATE AND BY THE, UH, UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? DECQ.
THE WHAT? DECQ? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IT.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH
AND NOW THEN ANOTHER THING TOO, UH, TBA, I'M SORRY.
AND, UH, YOU DIDN'T TAKE NOTICE THE SIZE OF THE LOTS.
MY HOUSE IS BIGGER THAN THOSE LOTS.
AND THEY WANNA PUT FOUR TO FIVE HOUSES ON THERE, FOUR TO FIVE HOUSES ON THAT, ON ONE OF THOSE LOTS.
THERE'S FIVE FEET BETWEEN THOSE HOUSES.
NOW YOU HAD NICE PICTURES OF THE HOUSES UP HERE.
YOU HAD TREES BY 'EM AND THIS AND THAT.
THERE'S NOT A YARD PLANNED ON ANY OF THESE THINGS.
AND YOU HAVE FIVE FEET IN THOSE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THESE HOUSES.
I COULD NOT LAY DOWN BETWEEN THOSE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE COMING IN THERE AND I DON'T CARE HOW PRETTY THEY ARE, THIS AND THAT.
THEY DO NOT WORK WITH WAXAHATCHEE.
AND MY HOUSE IS FIXING TO BE ONE OF THOSE DESIGNATED OLD ONES WITH THE, WITH THE SIGN IN FRONT OF IT.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY BUILT IN 1960, BUT IT STILL QUALIFIES.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, UH, ABOUT THAT.
BUT YOU CAN'T FIT FOUR HOUSES ON, ON FOUR ON
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ONE ACRE LIKE THEY WANT TO DO.UH, AND BRING UP NUMBER EIGHT AND SAID THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO, THAT'S ONES THAT SHOW FIVE FOOT APART AND, AND ALL.
AND I THINK THAT YOUR PICTURE THAT SHOWS THESE THINGS, THE YARDS AND STUFF IS DECEPTIVE.
IT'S, IT IS, IT'S MEANT TO FOOL ALL OF US.
WELL, YOU WANNA BUILD A WALL IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ACROSS THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO SEE WHATEVER IS OVER THERE.
EXCEPT YOU GONNA TAKE OUT THE TREES THAT COULD THAT PREVENT MY ROAD FROM WASHING OUT.
WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF MY ROAD? YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT DESIGNATED IN THERE.
I'M NOT DESIGNATED IN THE ROAD.
THE TREES, THEY'RE ON THE, THE SIDE OF THE ROAD PREVENTS IT FROM WASHING OUT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WATER COURSE THAT FEEDS THE POND OKAY.
AND, UH, YOU WANNA KILL THE END OF BROOKSIDE ROAD.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST REALLY UPSET ABOUT THAT ONE.
I'VE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN YOU HAVE AND UH, THAT JUST REALLY GETS TO ME AND I'M THROUGH TAKING UP YOUR TIME AND AGAIN, PLANNING AND ZONING.
Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL AND Y'ALL HAVE SOME OF THE BEST PLANS, SOME OF THE AREAS THERE THAT ARE REALLY COOL AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'LL BE BACK FOR THE NEXT ONE.
YOU CAN JUST QUESTION OPEN SESSION.
UM, SO DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.
SO I'M GONNA ASK OUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE, UM, THEY, THEY WANT US TO CONSIDER CONTINUING THIS TO THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING.
DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC SESSION OR DO WE TECHNICALLY LEAVE IT OPEN? UH, SO THANK YOU VICE CHAIRMAN.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU CAN, IF THE COMMISSION, HYPOTHETICALLY WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE AGENDA ITEM, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO CONTINUE TO, UH, THE NEXT MEETING DATE, AND IT DOES HAVE TO BE A DATE CERTAIN, THE NOVEMBER 10TH DATE IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.
UM, THE COMMISSION CAN CHOOSE TO CONTINUE AND, UH, THE VICE CHAIRMAN CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TONIGHT.
AND A NEW PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE NOTICED FOR THE NEXT NOVEMBER 10TH WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM IS RECONSIDERED AT THE, IF A CONTINUANCE, UH, IS GRANTED BY THE COMMISSION AND APPROVED BY A VOTE.
SO, UM, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, WOULD ANY OF Y'ALL LIKE TO ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR SAY ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR.
I THOUGHT I READ WHERE IT SAID TWO.
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THREE, AND THEN I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY UP TO THREE ELEMENTARIES AND ONE JUNIOR HIGH.
I JUST WANTED TO, HAS THAT BEEN CLARIFIED YET, MR. ROSER? YES.
IT, UH, I WAS COMMUNICATING WITH RYAN CALDEN AT SCHOOL DISTRICT TODAY AND, AND, UH, TRENTON HAD ASKED ME TO SPECIFY THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU NEXT TIME.
I I ACTUALLY WAS JUST TEXTING WITH MR. CALDEN.
AND, UH, MR. CALDEN INDICATED THAT THE DISTRICT REALLY NEEDS 15 ACRES PER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND 30 FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR A TOTAL OF 75 ACRES.
AND WHICH IS WHAT, WHAT I KIND OF FIGURED AND WE'RE AT ABOUT 45 NOW ISH.
SO I, I CAN TELL YOU I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES LESS THAN 75 ACRES FOR SCHOOLS.
I WAS, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT, WHATEVER, BUT I'VE GOT SOME CONFUSION.
YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, RIGHT? I AM.
YOU'RE OUR TAX ASSESSOR, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT YOU WORK FOR MINTO OR, I I'VE BEEN IN THE CONSULTING BUSINESS A LONG TIME BEFORE I EVER GOT AN ELECTED OFFICE.
AND I STILL DO CONSULTING FOR, FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
IT'S, THAT'S MY PRIVATE SECTOR SIDE.
I GOT YOU SPEAK, YOU'RE SIDE HUSTLE, SO TO SPEAK.
YEAH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE A, A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T VOTE ON THINGS HERE AT THE CITY OR OKAY.
I DON'T DO ZONING WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS THE TAX ASSESSOR.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR US? OH, IT'S A HUGE TAX BASE, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S NOT, YOU DON'T DRIVE EVERYTHING BY, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY'S GONNA COME IN, BUT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATION, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE TAX BASE TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY LONG TERM THAT YOU NEED MORE DENSITY.
SO MORE DENSE, HIGHER INCOME, YOU KNOW, TAX VALUE.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM BEING READY FOR PRIME TIME TO ME.
UM, AND THE NEXT AVAILABLE P AND Z MEETING IS NOVEMBER 10TH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, CALL IT, WHAT, 12 DAYS AWAY?
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ARE Y'ALL GONNA HAVE ALL THIS READY TO GO IN 12 DAYS? SEEMS LIKE A LOT.WELL, OF THE 65 CONDITIONS THAT WE FELL APART ON, LET'S PUT IT THAT AWAY, UH, ABOUT, I'M GONNA SAY CLOSE TO HALF OF 'EM WERE YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT.
SO WE GOT IT DOWN, I THINK TO SOME MANAGEABLE THINGS AND THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN AS BILL, IF YOU HEARD BILL SAY WHEN HE GOT UP HERE, UH, LAST COUPLE OF DAYS SINCE MONDAY, WELL, I GUESS TODAY, YEAH.
AFTER THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND TODAY THEY'VE BEEN ON THE COMPUTERS CRUNCHING AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORDING DOING, TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE BEST EFFORT WE CAN.
THERE'S A TIMETABLE ON THIS PROJECT, UH, AS, AS THEY'RE BUYING THIS WHOLE PIECE OF LAND.
THIS IS NOT A, WE'RE GONNA PIECEMEAL THIS THING OUT.
THEY'RE GONNA BUY, THEY'RE GONNA BUY THE, THE PRESBYTERIAN PROPERTY AND, AND THE 2,800 ACRES THAT THAT WALTON PUT TOGETHER ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT ON THAT FRONT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TIMETABLE FROM THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE BUYING IT FROM JUST SAID, YOU GOTTA CLOSE BY CERTAIN DAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT, I I CAN'T PROMISE IT.
UM, ANOTHER KIND OF GLARING, AT LEAST TO ME, INFRASTRUCTURE'S MY BABY.
UM, SO, AND I BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE WATER AND SEWER.
SO THIS IS GONNA BRING IN, CALL IT 30 TO 35,000 PEOPLE.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT, ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE THERE ON DAY ONE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT, AND YOU SAID YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO WHERE'S IT ALL GONNA GO AND WHERE'S THE WATER GONNA COME FROM? UH, YOU MIGHT WANNA ASK JAMES THAT QUESTION.
I DON'T, SO JAMES, CAN OUR CURRENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HANDLE AN ADDITIONAL 35,000 PEOPLE? YEAH.
HOW MUCH CAPACITY DO WE HAVE NOW? SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WE ARE DOING A MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR THE SEWER, UH, TREATMENT PLAN AS WELL.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN WAXAHATCHEE AND TAKING TO ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALSO THE TIMING OF THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY PLANNED IT ACCORDINGLY, HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THAT, UH, TREATMENT PLANS.
SO, UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL LIKE AT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 70% OF CAPACITY AT THAT TREATMENT PLANT MM-HMM
AND SO, UH, WITH THE CURRENT GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING, WE'RE STILL
SO, BUT, UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO SEE A LOT OF GROWTH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUSH IT OUT SOONER, BUT WE WERE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THOSE PLANS OF HOW WE WENT TO EXPAND THE TREATMENT PLANTS.
SO IF THE TREATMENT PLANT NEEDED TO EITHER BE EXPANDED OR AN ADDITIONAL PLANT BUILT, THAT WAS KIND OF, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO LIKE TIE IT EXACTLY TO ONE SINGLE PROJECT THAT WOULD PRECIPITATE THAT.
UM, WHO PAYS FOR THAT? SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES, UH, FOR THE, BASICALLY THE GROWTH.
SO, UH, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, UH, THOSE, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
WE CAN ACTUALLY ONLY GET LIKE, UM, 50% OF THOSE.
HOWEVER, WE ARE LOOKING WITH, UH, HOW WE CAN, UH, LOOK AT, UH, INCREASING THAT AMOUNT WITH THE FUTURE STUDIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH, WITH DOING THAT.
WHAT ABOUT ON THE WATER SIDE? THE TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS? WOULD EITHER OF THEM OR BOTH OF THEM BE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL THE WATER USAGE FOR THIS? SO WE, WE ARE ALSO IN THE MASTER PLAN, UH, PHASE WITH THAT RIGHT THERE.
ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS ACTUALLY LOOKING HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, U FULLY UTILIZE THE SOCAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE YOU'RE NOT USING IT TO THE FULL CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, FOR THAT TREATMENT PLANT, BUT ALSO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN GET THOSE ARTERIES, UH, FOR, TO UH, BE ABLE TO GET THAT WATER TO THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE.
SO WE'RE FINISHING UP THE I 35, UH, WATERLINE PROJECT.
UH, WE GOT THE MARSHALL ROAD DONE AND WE'RE GONNA START CONSTRUCTION ON THE FM 60 64, UH, BASICALLY FROM MARSHALL TO, UM, 2 87 BYPASS.
WE ALREADY COMPLETED THE FM 64 FROM UM, 2 8 7 TO BUSINESS 2 8 7.
AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT, UH, IT'S A 24 INCH WATER LINE MM-HMM
BASICALLY FROM SOCAL PLANT ALL THE WAY TO, UH, 2 8 7.
IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO CONNECT TO THAT 2 87 LINE AND TAKE IT TO THEIR SITE.
UH, SO TO GET THAT UPPER PRESSURE ZONE, SO WE, WE RUN, OR THE CITY RUNS THE TRANSMISSION LINES AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPERS TO CONNECT AND, AND, AND OKAY.
CONNECT, BUT ALSO TO EXPAND ALONG THEIR PROPERTY MM-HMM
UH, TO WHAT THE, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
IN THIS CASE RIGHT HERE, WE DID LOOK AT THE, UH, WE WATER AND SEWER NEEDS.
AND SO THERE IS A ELEVATED WATER TANK THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SERVING THEIR PROPERTY.
HEY FOLKS, I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IF WE COULD KEEP IT DOWN AND, AND LET THE SPEAKERS SPEAK.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT SO WE WON'T HAVE TIME TO RE-NOTICE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, BUT IF WE DO A CONTINUANCE, WE DON'T HAVE TO RE IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IS THAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TIME TO RE-NOTICE IT? UH, ACCORDING TO STA ON HOW THE NEW STATUTES ARE WITH THE LEGISLATION, THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE TO PUBLISH IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, ET CETERA, UH, WE WOULDN'T MEET OUR DEADLINE REQUIREMENT TO DO BY NOVEMBER 10TH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR HOW MANY DAYS IT HAS TO BE PUBLISHED BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I BELIEVE IT'S 10 DAYS AND OUR NEWSPAPER DEADLINE, UM, WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
IT'S PAST THAT ALREADY BY ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
UM, AND, AND SO JI WAS JUST ANSWERING THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE PUBLIC HEARING COULD BE CLOSED.
UM, YOU CAN CLOSE AND THEN RE NOTE JUST THE OPEN MEETING, EXACT NOTICE REQUIREMENT IS THE MM-HMM.
SO, SO YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADVISE TO JUST TO CONTINUE THE MEETING TO AVOID, UH, TO THE, TO THE SPECIFIC DATE OF NOVEMBER 10TH TO AVOID HAVING TO RE NOTIFY SINCE IT'S BEING, UH, CONTINUE TO THAT SPECIFIC DATE IN THIS MEETING BY MOTION.
AND, AND IS, IS THERE STILL A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE CLOSED? UM, I, I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT NOW.
I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING.
SO YOUR, YOUR CONCERN FOR THE NEWSPAPER REQUIREMENT IS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING OR TO IT, IT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I THINK WE'RE OKAY NOW.
[11. Consider recommendation of ZDC-232-2024]
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON AT THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS, THE DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025.AND WHAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED? NO.
AM I, DO I NEED TO CLOSE IT? NO, YOU'RE FINE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, CONVENING IN TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON OUR AGENDA.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO, UNLESS ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION.
UM, SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE TRENTON'S ACT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING? UM, YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, THANK WITH THE PLANNING STAFF OF A GREAT TEAM.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS THE REC, UH, PLANNING RECOGNITION MONTH.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO EVERY PROJECT, UH, NO MATTER IF IT'S A CORE, CORE OF AN ACRE LOT, A REDEVELOPMENT LOT, UM, UP TO A LARGE MAGNITUDE PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT.
THEY PUT A LOT OF, UH, TIME INTO IT, A LOT OF CONSIDERATION, A LOT OF ANALYSIS GOES INTO IT.
UM, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL, UH, HAVING A TEAM THAT IS SO DEDICATED TO THE CITY BOX HATCHEE AND THE COMMUNITY AND ITS FUTURE GROWTH.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SAY THAT.
ZACH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? JUST WANNA ECHO TRENT'S, UH, THANK YOUS TO THE COMMISSION.
Y'ALL ARE A PART, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, OF, OF RECEIVING THAT RICHARD R LILY AWARD.
SO, UH, YOUR PARTICIPATION CONTRIBUTES TO THAT.
UH, JUST THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER.
THIS IS A LOT OF, LOT OF WORK, UH, TO GET ALL THIS COMPILED.
CHASE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, MR. HICKS? YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR MY, UH, PRINTED AGENDA.
THREATENED TO HAVE TO PRINT ALL THAT OUT.
I JUST WANNA ECHO THANKING THE STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN FOR THIS PROJECT.
YOU GO TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT GOES INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I'VE SEEN IT ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WHERE THEY PUT IN SIMILAR EFFORT TO SOMETHING SMALLER, BUT IT'S JUST INDICATIVE OF WHAT OUR STAFF DOES ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, SO THANKS TO STAFF HERE, BUT THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO, UH, MAKES THIS CITY THE PLACE THAT IT WE WANNA LIVE.
AND I'VE BEEN WAITING TO DO THIS.