Aug 12, 2025 Planning & Zoning

[1. Call to Order]

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FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME TO YOU WITH THANKSGIVING FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY.

AND FATHER, WE OFFER THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

FATHER, WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE THIS EVENING AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR CITIZENS.

FATHER, WE ALSO ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS WHEN WE FALL SHORT.

YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC CAN DO SO.

NOW SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL PROCEED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA,

[4. Consent Agenda]

SO MOVE.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIED.

NEXT

[5. Public Hearing on a request by Quinn Foster, Manhard Consulting, for a Zoning Change from a Single-Family-1 (SF-1) zoning district to Planned Development – General Retail (PD-GR) zoning district located directly north of 2400 North US Highway 77 (Property ID 189302) – Owner(s): Snow Peach Legacy Family Holding Spendthrift Trust (ZDC-75- 2025)]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON WHAT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE SAM'S CASE.

THEY HAVE ASKED AND REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

SO IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION

[6. Consider recommendation of ZDC-75-2025]

I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM

[7. Public Hearing on a request by Linda Romanenko for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for Accessory Structures exceeding 1,000 square feet use within a Single-Family Residential1 (SF-1) zoning district located at 2951 Longbranch Road (Property ID 175482) – Owner(s): Linda Romanenko (ZDC-99-2025)]

OKAY, HAVE YOU GOT THAT? YES SIR.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING ZDC 99 20 25 FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 1000 SQUARE FEET IN COMBINED FLOOR AREA.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY ONE AND IT SITS ON APPROXIMATELY 5.44 ACRES ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT.

THE USE FOR THIS ITEM IS FOR GENERAL STORAGE AND IT'LL NOT STORE VEHICLES OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS AROUND 2073 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS ONE STORY AND HAS AN AREA OF 480 SQUARE FEET.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE MEETS THE TYPICAL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UH, DETAILED IN THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE MATERIALS OF THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY BUILDING WILL BE COMPRISED OF METAL ROOF INSIDING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.

ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL NOT INCLUDE ELECTRICAL OR PLUMBING AND WILL NOT BE PAVED AS SHOWN IN THE OPERATIONAL PLAN.

IN YOUR PACKET, WE TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA PACKET FOR THIS ITEM.

STAFF HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH THE SITE PLAN, THE ELEVATION FACADE PLAN, AND THE OPERATIONAL PLAN.

UH, CONCERNING THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE, STAFF HAS RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

AND ADDITIONALLY, STAFF HAS DETAILED THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THIS STATUTE STRUCTURE IN WHICH THE APPLICANT ADHERED TO AND RESOLVED.

WE REC, WE RECOMMEND A MOTIONAL, A MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM.

AND SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, THE APPLICANT AND I ARE HERE.

THANK YOU CALEB.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? CALEB, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE NUMEROUS HOUSES IN THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE THESE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, RIGHT? YES.

THEY'RE VERY CONSISTENT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU CALEB.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, IF NOT

[8. Consider recommendation of ZDC-99-2025]

A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 1000 SQUARE FEET AND COMBINED FLOOR AREA.

USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM IS THE CONTINUANCE OF A

[9. Continue Public Hearing on a request by Marisa Brewer, AICP, McAdams, for a Zoning Change from a Planned Development – Commercial (PD-5-C) zoning district to Planned Development Multi-Family-1 (PD-MF-1) zoning district located at 501 Houston Street (Property ID 189345 – Owner(s): Skanda Investments, LLC and Masina Investments, LLC (ZDC-174-2024)]

PROPERTY ID 1 8 9 3 4 5 OWNERS SCANA INVESTMENTS, LLC AND MESSINA INVESTMENTS.

L-L-C-Z-D-C DASH 1 74 DASH 2024.

IS THAT YOU? YES.

SO CDC DASH 1 74 DASH 2024.

THIS APPLICA UH, APPLICATION REQUEST WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JULY 15TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING PER THE COMMISSION'S REQUEST.

UM, A CORRECTION THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, UM,

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HOWEVER, THE PLAYGROUND, IT WAS THE PLAYGROUND THAT WAS REQUIRED.

FIVE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, UH, IN WHICH THEY WERE MISSING ONE COMPONENT OF THE PLAYGROUND.

THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS ADDRESSED THE MISSING COMPONENT FOR THE PLAYGROUND WITH THEIR RESUBMITTAL ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL, UH, LANDSCAPE PROPOSED, UH, FOR THE AMENITIES.

AND THEY HAVE UPDATED THE SUBMITTED, UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THE UPDATED ELEVATIONS AND, UM, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU HAN.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HAN UH, GOOD EVENING.

COULD YOU LET ME KNOW WHICH ADDITION WAS MADE? I CAN'T RECALL WHICH ONE, HOWEVER, THE, UM, THE LAST COMPONENT WAS THE MONKEY BARS 'CAUSE INIT MONKEY BARS AND A SLIDE.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY HAD THE MONKEY BARS IN THE SLIDE PREVIOUSLY.

DID THE SPACE INCREASE? IT DID NOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, MA'AM.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARISSA BREWER.

I'M A PLANNER WITH NICK ADAMS. WE'RE LOCATED AT 4 4 0 0 STATE HIGHWAY 1 21, LEWISVILLE, TEXAS.

UM, ON, ARE YOU WILLING TO CLICK THROUGH IT FOR ME? OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, SO GOOD EVENING.

I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON HAS OBVIOUSLY PRESENTED IT AND WE'VE ALSO COME BEFORE YOU, UM, JULY 15TH.

SO IT WILL BE PRETTY FAST BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR MATERIAL BUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO IF YOU COULD CLICK TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, JUST KIND OF LAYING OUT THE LAND, KIND OF SEEING WHERE THE AREA IS LOCATED.

SO OFF OF HOUSTON STREET.

UM, CURRENTLY EXISTING, IT'S A VACANT PIECE OF LAND WITH, UM, A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, WHICH ARE TOWN HOMES.

AND THEN YOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND THEN COMMERCIAL ALL AROUND IT.

UM, EXISTING TODAY, THE CURRENT ZONING IS PDC.

UM, AND THEN WE ARE REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE TO BE PD, UM, MF ONE IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CHANGE.

UH, THANK YOU.

SO WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE ARE PROPOSING 60 TOWN HOMES.

UM, WITHIN THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE REAR ENTRY.

WE ARE PROVIDING A 15 FOOT, TECHNICALLY FRONT YARD AND THEN, UM, A 20 FOOT REAR YARD, WHICH WILL BE FENCED IN.

UM, WE ALSO ARE PROVIDING A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE SOUTH.

AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL.

UM, WE HAVE UNITS THAT ARE AS CLOSE AS 53, BUT WE, MOST OF THE UNITS ARE ABOUT 98 SETBACK FROM THAT, THAT WALL.

UM, WE ALSO ARE PROVIDING AN AMENITY CENTER, UM, AS SEEN IN THE CENTER.

AND THEN THEY WILL, UM, ALSO HAVE USE TO THE, UM, AMENDING CENTER TO THE RIGHT WHERE IT'S THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE POOL.

UM, I KNOW THAT WAS A QUESTION LAST TIME, SO WE DID CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO USE AS WELL.

UM, THERE WILL BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE TO JOHNSON, WHICH WILL BE AUB OUT.

UM, AT THE TIME OF WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMES, THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO WORK ON THAT EXPANSION.

AGAIN, THAT WILL JUST BE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

SO THE UM, ROUTE WILL BE THROUGH MARK TRAIL PRIMARILY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WITH THAT SIX FOOT MISSIONARY WALL, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING LANDSCAPING ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

UM, SO THAT WILL ALL BE KIND OF COVERED.

AND THEN THAT DETENTION POND ACTS AS ANOTHER BUFFER.

UM, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE AMENITY CENTER AREA, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN CALLS OUT WHAT THOSE TREE SIZES WILL BE.

UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE'S THE AMENITY CENTER.

I WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME HERE.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.

SO JUST KIND OF GIVING A HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT THAT, UM, WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS A RENDERING, SO THIS IS JUST VERY GENERIC, BUT WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW THE SCALE OF WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, THE, THE PLAY STRUCTURE ITSELF WILL OBVIOUSLY BE FOR MORE OF YOUR COMMERCIAL PLAY SITES THAT YOU WOULD SEE AT LIKE A SCHOOL OR, UM, A REGULAR AMENITY CENTER.

SO THIS IS WOOD SHOWING, BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE, UM, WHENEVER WE PUT THE PLAYGROUND THERE.

BUT WE ARE REQUIRED FOR AMENITIES WHICH WE'RE PROVIDING.

SO THE IMPROVED PICNIC AREA, A PLAYGROUND, SPORTS COURTS, AND THEN IN CLOSE GARAGE COUNTS AS ONE OF THE FOURTH.

AND THEN THE SWIMMING POOL WOULD BE A FIFTH, UM, IF IT'S USED, UM, WHICH WE WILL ALLOW THEM TO USE.

UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE FIVE PLAY STATION, UM, PLAY, SORRY,

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UM, THE FIVE PLAY ELEMENTS.

SO WITH THAT WITHIN THE PLAY STATION, UM, PLAYGROUND, THE PLAY ELEMENTS WOULD BE THE SLIDE, THE MONKEY BARS, CLIMBING ROPE, UM, CLIMBING WALL, AND THEN THE STANDALONE SWING SET.

THERE WILL BE A SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, OVER THE PLAYGROUND AS WELL.

UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

UM, STAFF HAD MADE, MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO ADD A SHADE STRUCTURE.

SO, UM, THAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT THAT WILL ALSO BE THERE AS WELL.

UM, ALONG WITH OBVIOUSLY THE LANDSCAPING.

AND THEN IF YOU CAN SKIP TO THE NEXT SIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO ELEVATIONS, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION HERE AS WELL.

STAFF HAD SENT OVER THE EXAMPLE OF THE RENDERINGS THAT THEY, UM, THEY WERE, THAT WERE SPOKEN OF LAST TIME AT UM, PNZ.

AND SO WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT THAT AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS INTO, UM, OUR ELEVATIONS AS WELL.

SO WE ARE MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE CODE OF WHAT THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE REQUIRES.

AND THEN WE ALSO TRIED TO INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF WHAT THAT, UM, EXAMPLE RENDERING WAS LIKE.

SO WE ALSO, UM, WENT AHEAD AND ADDED BAD BADMAN BOARD, UM, JUST SOME OF THE, THE POP THE INS AND OUTS OF THE COLOR DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE FACADES.

UM, AND SO WE FELT LIKE THAT HAS ADDED A LITTLE CHARACTER, BUT ALSO STILL KEEPING VERY TRUE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR AREA.

UM, AND, AND KEEPING IT TRUE TO US INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY REPLICATING WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, WE KIND OF WANTED TO JUST PULL LITTLE ELEMENTS OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING, UM, AND ADD THAT TO OURS AS WELL.

AND THEN IF YOU CAN CLICK ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

WE CAN, UM, GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, AND STOP ON THERE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DO.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU DOING OKAY THIS EVENING? YES.

THANK YOU.

AWESOME.

UH, GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ENTRY.

OKAY.

SO I THINK YOU SAID THAT MARK TRAIL MM-HMM .

WOULD BE THE PRIMARY ENTRY POINT.

YES.

AND IT, IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE, THANK YOU.

UH, COULD YOU GO UP ONE, SO MARK TRAIL, THE TOP OF THE SCREEN MM-HMM .

UM, BUT THERE ALSO APPEARS TO BE AN ENTRY, RIGHT? RIGHT.

WHERE THE CURSOR WAS, IF YOU GO DOWN ONE, SO THERE WILL BE THOSE TWO.

SO IT'LL BE BOTH OF THOSE.

CORRECT.

DOES THAT, IS THAT PART OF ANOTHER DIVISION OR SOMETHING? IS THAT ENTRY, IS IT GONNA CUT THROUGH ANOTHER? SO IT IS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THEY'RE THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA DEDICATE THROUGH A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WAY.

YEAH.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS FROM, OR NOT A COMPLAINT, BUT A COMMENT I THOUGHT FROM THE LAST MEETING IS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE COMING THROUGH THERE MM-HMM .

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED WITH THE TENANTS THERE.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF I REMEMBER, UM, THAT COMMENT.

I KNOW, UM, I KNOW WE, WE'VE BEEN PROPOSING THIS, UM, IN AND OUT AND WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED TO, TO WHERE WE COULD PUT THOSE ACCESS POINTS.

SURE.

'CAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE THE TWO.

UM, AND SO, SO THAT ONE WHERE IT LINES UP NEAR THE POOL, THAT NORTHERN ONE, THAT'S KIND OF THE SECOND POINT OF WHERE WE COULD PUT THAT.

UM, CURRENTLY THE ONE TO THE SOUTH, IT, IT, IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE GOING WHERE THE OTHER RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH ARE KIND OF AT.

SO, UM, THAT'S LIMITING THAT TRAFFIC TO GO MORE STRAIGHT TO THE RIGHT.

UM, SO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF LANDED ON THOSE AREAS.

SO A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC SHOULD, UM, TECHNICALLY SHOULD GO GO TO THE RIGHT AS YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE'S THERE.

BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, UM, THAT'S IDEALLY WHERE WE WOULD NEED ALONG WITH SOME REQUIREMENTS OF SPACING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND THE POOL.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISION? CORRECT.

OKAY.

BUT YOU WOULD BE GRANTING, I THINK YOU SAID YOU'D BE GRANTING THIS DIVISION ACCESS TO THAT POOL? YEAH, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.

SO THE RESIDENTS, UM, WITHIN THAT PHASE ONE COULD POSSIBLY USE THE AMENITIES ON PHASE TWO AND THEN VICE VERSA.

VICE VERSA.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MM-HMM.

SO BOTH, BOTH SECTIONS HAVE ACCESS TO EACH ONE, CORRECT? YEAH.

UH, I, I GUESS I'M NOT SURE I HEARD CORRECTLY.

IS THERE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OVER

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UM, MAYBE, YEAH, MAYBE THAT WAS A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION.

THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

IT WAS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED IS WHAT THE LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO BE THERE.

YES.

AND, AND THAT JUST, THAT'S COM IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? CORRECT.

OKAY.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PLAYGROUND.

YES SIR.

I HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT LAST TIME.

MM-HMM .

IF, IF I'VE COUNTED RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT 60 UNITS MM-HMM .

THAT PLAYGROUND TO ME.

I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE DOING WHAT'S REQUIRED, BUT I MEAN, THAT JUST DOESN'T, AND I MEAN YOU'VE GOT A PICKLEBALL COURT THERE THAT BACKS UP TO, UH, WHERE CAR IS PARKED WITH NO WAY TO TO STOP ANY OF THAT OR, OR YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GOING BACK AND ACTUALLY GOING IN THAT I, I, I PERSONALLY, I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF MOVING THE BUILDINGS AS FAR AWAY AS YOU COULD FROM THE EXISTING HOMES.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG PLUS.

UH, BUT THE PLAYGROUND JUST, I I DON'T KNOW.

IT JUST FOR 60 UNITS, IT'S SO SMALL.

I MEAN TO ME, I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT.

YES, SIR.

I, YES, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, THE CONCERN THERE.

I I WILL SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, IT'S UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT IT DOES HAVE ITS OWN PRIVATE YARDS.

UM, I KNOW SOME, SOME RESIDENTS AROUND TOWN, I'VE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR BACKYARDS.

UM, IT'S PRETTY STANDARD THAT 20 FEET IS, IS A GOOD BACKYARD FROM, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.

I'VE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER AMENITIES AROUND TOWN AS WELL.

AND I'VE, UM, WE'VE SEEN KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE THERE FOR THOSE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND EACH DEVELOPMENT IS VERY UNIQUE.

UM, UH, BUT WE'VE SEEN KIND OF THE RATIO AND WHAT THOSE STATS WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS HOW MANY, UM, USUALLY YOUR UNITS OR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, HOW MANY AMENITIES THEY GET PER THAT.

UM, AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE THAT IN, IN THE BEST WAY WE COULD.

UM, BY ALSO JUST ADDING A FEW OTHER ONES.

UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE, THAT'S HOW WE'VE APPROACHED IT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE PICKLEBALL, I DO SEE YOU'RE CONCERNED AS FAR AS THE, THE PLAYING AND THE ROADS BEING THERE.

UM, WE DID DISCUSS POTENTIALLY ADDING A FENCE AROUND IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THERE ARE, THERE IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS, UM, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE FENCES AROUND IT.

UM, USUALLY YOUR BASKETBALL COURTS OBVIOUSLY BASKETBALL'S DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A FENCE AROUND THAT 'CAUSE, BUT YOU DO RUN AFTER THE BALL EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, UM, IF YOU MISS A SHOT.

BUT TYPICALLY YOU CAN HAVE A FOUR FOOT FENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST TO KIND OF ACT AS THAT IF THE BALL ROLLS OR IF YOU HIT IT A LITTLE BIT.

SO, UM, THAT COULD ALSO BE AN OPTION OF ADDING A LITTLE SMALL FENCE AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF IT OR ON THAT BORDERS OF IT.

WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING? YES.

SO THERE WILL BE LIGHTING ON THE COURTS ITSELF.

UM, THERE'S SHIELD LIGHTING, SO IT'LL KIND OF DIRECT IT MORE THAT WAY AND THEY'LL BE SET ON A TIMER.

UM, AND THEN ALSO OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL SEE KIND OF, WE POSITION THE HOUSE IN FRONT OF IT, SO THE LIGHTING WILL KIND OF BE BLOCKED IN BY THOSE HOMES.

UM, AND SO WE TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AS MUCH AS WE COULD.

SO I GUESS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR ALLUDING TO WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK IS THAT AS OPPOSED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY BACKYARDS AND SO THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR WHOLE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY WOULD BE ON A COMMON PARK.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THESE DO HAVE SOME BACKYARDS, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, THEY, THEY HAVE AN AREA IN EACH BACKYARD THAT THEY COULD KIND OF PLAY AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE PARK, BUT RIGHT.

UH, IS THE WHOLE, IS THE WHOLE PARKING AREA, THE WHOLE PARK SIDE MM-HMM .

ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PICKLEBALL, IS ALL OF IT COVERED OR JUST WHERE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS AS FAR AS THE, THE BENCHES AND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? YEAH.

UM, I WOULD, AS I, I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED THIS, SO, UM, I WILL HAVE TO ASK, BUT I, THE PLAY STRUCTURE ITSELF, UM, WE'LL FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A LOCATION OF WHERE THAT WOULD BE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE WOULD TRY TO COVER THE PLAYGROUND ITSELF.

UM, SO IT MAY BE THAT THE, THAT THE PICNIC AREA IS NOT COVERED, BUT THE PLAYGROUND WOULD BE

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YEAH.

SO, UM, LIKE, SO THE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, HAVE YOU EVER SAID LIKE SOMETIMES THE SWINGS WILL KIND OF BE COVERED, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A COVERING OF A SWING SET AND THEN USUALLY WITH PLAYGROUNDS THEY'LL HAVE LIKE A TEEPEE AT THE TOP AND THAT COVERS LIKE THAT AREA AND THEN THE PLAYGROUNDS ARE ALL OPEN.

UM, THAT COULD BE A WAY OF COVERING THAT OR GETTING A CANOPY AND LIKE PUTTING IT AND COVERING THE WHOLE PLAYGROUND STATION ITSELF.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS AS TO HOW THE COVERING AND WHAT ALL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS COVERED OF THE AREA WITHIN THE AMENITY AREA.

JUST PROVIDING SOME TYPE OF SHADE SO THAT WAY IF, IF IT DOES GET TOO HOT, PEOPLE CAN GO AND SIT UNDERNEATH IT OR BE UNDERNEATH IT IF IT NEEDS TO BE.

AND COMMISSIONER KILLER.

UM, RIGHT NOW IN THE ORANGE HOUSE WRITTEN, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT TO BE COVERED.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE DONE, UM, IF YOU CAN AMEND THE MOTION AND ADD THAT AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT ALONG WITH IF WE WANT A FENCE CORRECT BY THE, SOME KIND OF BARRIER ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT, WOULD THERE BE ANY CONSIDERATION FROM YOUR COMPANY TO, I MEAN, I SEE THE PICNIC TABLES BACK THERE.

TO ME THAT'S KIND OF WASTED.

UH, I, I KNOW IT'S A SITTING AREA FOR PARENTS IF THEY'RE OUT THERE WITH THEIR KIDS.

I JUST, THE PLAYGROUND IS JUST SO SMALL.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAD, OUT OF THESE 60 UNITS, IF YOU HAD FIVE OF THEM THAT HAD KIDS, THEY CAN'T PLAY ON THIS PLAYGROUND.

I MEAN, IT'S TOO SMALL.

CAN I? SURE.

UH, BEN FORD WRIGHT ARCHITECTS, UH, 1430 SOUTH BROADWAY STREET, CARROLLTON, UM, THAT PLAYGROUND ON THE PLAN IS NOT WHAT IS ALSO IN THE RENDERINGS.

UM, ONCE WE GOT DIRECTION FROM THE CITY ON THE FIVE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE, IT GOT LARGER.

THAT PLAY AREA IS ROUGHLY 40 BY 40.

OKAY.

BUT I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SWINGS, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE, I MEAN, BASICALLY WHAT WE SEE THERE IS YOU MET THE MINIMUM, BUT, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN PLAY THERE.

I MEAN, AND REAL QUICK, WE NEVER RECEIVED A REVIS SITE PLAN SHOWING THE ENLARGED CORRECT PARK AND SO RENDERING ONLY.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED THAT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE TO MOVE ON TO COUNCIL.

UM, SO AS PART OF THE MOTION YOU COULD SAY TO INCLUDE THAT AS THE REISE SITE PLAN NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THIS BEING GOING TO COUNCIL IS WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR AS WELL.

SO WE, WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

YEAH.

I THINK IT NEEDS SOME BIG KID EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

UM, THIS IS, THIS LOOKS LIKE VERY LITTLE KID EQUIPMENT.

AND IF YOU HAVE BIG KIDS, UH, 'CAUSE I'M THE PARENT TO A BIG KID AND A LITTLE KID, THE BIG KIDS ARE GONNA COME AND TRY TO PLAY ON THAT AND TEAR IT UP.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I, I JUST PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, THE PICNIC TABLES GO AWAY AND MORE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE AND THEN FENCES ON BOTH SIDES.

'CAUSE BOTH SIDES GO INTO THE STREET.

UH, YEAH.

THAT RUNS THE WHOLE LENGTH OF YEAH.

THERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD BE AMENABLE TO, TO ADDING ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO.

OKAY.

UH, THERE IS ALSO LANDSCAPING ALONG THE STREET ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PICKLEBALL CART.

LANDSCAPING, LIKE HEDGES WOULD PREVENT THE BALLS OR, YES, SIR.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE ON THE, UM, WE'LL NEED THAT ON THE REBUY SITE PLAN AS WELL.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME ON THE SITE PLAN FROM THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED SHOWING THE NEW PLAYGROUND LAYOUT, NOT THE PLAYGROUND LAYOUT.

YEAH.

SO WE, WE WOULD NEED REISE PLAN SHOWING ALL OF THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I I, SO AS THE COMMISSION, YOU, YOU COULD MAKE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE COULD GET THAT HOPEFULLY BEFORE COUNCIL THEN.

YEAH.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING AWAY WITH THE PICNIC TABLES.

PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR LAWN CHAIRS IF THEY WANNA GO OUT THERE.

A BASIC BENCH.

YEAH.

MAKE THE, YEAH.

MAKES PLAYGROUND AREA BIGGER.

PUT A BENCH IN OR SOMETHING.

AND WHETHER YOU, WHETHER YOU ADDED ANY MORE EQUIPMENT, AT LEAST YOU'RE SPREADING IT OUT OR KIDS CAN RUN AROUND.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL.

SO IF THE ZONING DIDN'T CHANGE, WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT COULD BE BUILT THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH PNZ? UM, UH, PER THE ORDINANCE, UH, THE PD ORDINANCE, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A, QUITE A BIT OF RETAIL OFFICE, UH, WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

SO SOMETHING LIKE A STRIP CENTER OR A CHECK CASHING PLACE OR A DOLLAR STORE, I'D HAVE TO REFER BACK TO THE CHECK CASHING IF THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SEP.

OKAY.

UH, BUT FOLLOW THE SAME PARAMETERS OF, UH, MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL

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UM, AND AS LONG AS THEY CAN MEET THE, YOU KNOW, THE TIA REQUIREMENTS, UM, ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT OR ALL THE OTHER DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, YEAH.

THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND BY RIGHT.

DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

THE REASON THAT I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE I SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS INCREASED TRAFFIC.

UM, AND NO MATTER WHAT IS BUILT THERE, IT IS GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE CAN'T PREVENT LANDOWNERS FROM DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC.

SO, YEAH.

AND, AND THIS PARCEL IS LEFT OUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO PHASE TWO.

MM-HMM .

THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS COMMERCIAL WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BUILT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY KIND OF DESIGNED FOR TWO SECTIONS OF, UH, NO.

AND HERE'S EVERYTHING ALONG LIST OF THINGS THAT CAN BE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK Y'ALL.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? QUESTION.

CAN I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT A RETENTION FARM? YES, SIR.

IF WE CAN MIND COMING UP TO THE YEAH, THANK YOU.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY SECRETARY NOW.

MY NAME IS BRENT VINEYARD.

I'M JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

UH, I LIVE IN A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NOW THAT HAS A RETENTION POND AND THEY DID NOT PUT A FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

AND IT COLLECTS MILES ALL AROUND THE EDGES.

VERY UNSIGHTLY, VERY NASTY LOOKING.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S GONNA HAVE A RETENTION POND.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE DETENTION AREA, WHICH IS PRETTY LARGE CONSIDERING, AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LIKE MOST OF THEM, IT'S GONNA HAVE WATER IN IT 15 DAYS A YEAR.

OKAY.

AND, AND PROBABLY NEVER HAVE ENOUGH WATER.

OKAY.

ESPECIALLY AS ELONGATED AS IS.

YEAH.

TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FOUNTAIN BE YEAH.

I, WHERE I LIVE, IT STAYS, I MEAN, IT'S FULL ALL THE TIME AND IT'S VERY UNSIGHTLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PUT A FOUNTAIN IN IT.

YEAH.

AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DETENTION AND A RETENTION POND WHERE DETENTION WON'T HOLD THE WATER.

IT SLOWLY DISSIPATES THE WATER OVER TIME.

RETENTION'S DESIGNED FOR THE WATER BE HELD.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ONE SEE THE AERATOR IN IT, WHICH CLEAN THE MOSS.

THIS ISN'T, THIS WILL NOT BE DESIGNED TO RETAIN THE WATER LONG TERM, BUT IT SHOULD.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST KIND OF, BUT THEY SHOULD MAINTAIN IT AND KEEP IT MOWED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION.

YES.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE ELSE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? LET'S, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK THEY DID AN OKAY JOB.

UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M KIND OF HOPING THIS IS, IS SOME QUASI AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT BRAND NEW TEACHERS CAN LIVE IN AND SINGLE PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN.

AND IT'D BE AFFORDABLE FOR THEM.

NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM.

UH, SO ALL, ALL IN ALL, I THINK THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED ON THE INCREASE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.

I'M SO SORRY.

I DID THINK OF ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.

I'M SORRY.

NO, GO RIGHT.

IN.

UM, STAFF, HOW HAS PHASE ONE BEEN MAINTAINED? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, ACCORDING TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY DO HAVE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WHAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, AND SEEN AND THAT HAS BEEN MAINTAINED AS WELL AS THEY WOULD LIKE.

UM, IT IS AN OLDER DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.

UM, SO IT, IT DOES HAVE AGE TO IT.

MM-HMM .

UM, WE'VE HEARD SOME THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE BUILDINGS.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH CODE WHERE WE'VE HAD TO GO OUT MY UNDERSTANDING.

ANY OUTSTANDING CODE ISSUES? WE'VE, SIR, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH.

UH, BUT THERE WERE SOME, SOME, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT THE PRIOR OWNER TREATED IT WITH TLC GOTCHA.

AND WAS REALLY ATTENTIVE TO IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS GROUP MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS ATTENTIVE.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK, YOU

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UH, AND, AND TREATING BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, EQUALLY AND NOT GIVING ANY TYPE OF PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE HOMEOWNERS HAD THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

ANYONE ELSE, IF NOT CHAIR,

[10. Consider recommendation of ZDC-174-2024]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH 1 74 20 24.

THE ZONING CHANGE FROM A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL PD FIVE C TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MULTI-FAMILY, ONE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS.

UH, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD IN THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

I, I'M, IF I NEED, IF YOU NEED TO HELP ME REWORD THIS, GO AHEAD.

BECAUSE I'M JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP.

ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND FENCES, UH, ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

UH, LIGHTS AND FENCES.

OKAY.

UH, FENCING.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE A LIGHT PLAN EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE, YOU'VE SAID THAT, THAT, AND THEN THE SHADE STRUCTURE, WHICH YOU SAID, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN.

AND THEN ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WHERE THE, UH, UH, TABLES ARE BACK THERE.

UH, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.

IT, IT'S ALL RIGHT.

IF I COULD READ BACK THAT THOSE CONDITIONS, IT'S AS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH FOLLOWING ADDITIONS THAT THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT BE SHADED WITH THE SHADED STRUCTURE.

UM, THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND PICKLEBALL COURT BE FENCED THAT, UM, THE TABLES SHALL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

UM, UPDATED SITE PLAN.

UPDATED PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, UH, SHALL BE PROVIDED ALL PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSING SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT

[11. Public Hearing on a request by Sarah Lewis, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a ShortTerm Rental use within a Single-Family-2 (SF-2) zoning district located at 209 Equestrian Drive. (Property ID 236359) - Owner: Sarah & Brandon Lewis (ZDC-98-2025)]

FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED 2 0 9 EQUESTRIAN DRIVE.

PROPERTY ID 2 3 6 3 5 9.

OWNER, SARAH AND BRANDON LEWIS.

ZDC DASH 98 DASH 2025.

CALEB, WORKING OR NOT .

THERE IT GOES.

UM, TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING ZDC 98 20 25 FOR SPECIFIC USE REQUESTS FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED 2 0 9 EQUESTRIAN DRIVE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

TWO.

THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 1,696 SQUARE FEET, WHICH CONTAINS THREE BEDROOMS AND HAS SUFFICIENT IMPROVED SURFACE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.

THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING THIS LOCATION AS A SEARCH TERM RENTAL STAFF INQUIRED WITH THE WASATCH POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT ANY NUISANCE RELATED CALLS TO SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ITS CURRENT USE IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS.

AND WE RECEIVED, UH, ZERO COMPLAINTS.

UH, SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES IDENTIFY THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD.

HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE COMMENT RESPONSE LETTER RECEIVED BY THE APPLICANT, THE EXISTING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ROLLED OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO, UH, GET RID OF THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

UM, FINALLY, THE EMERGENCY CONTACT WILL BE RESIDING APPROXIMATELY 10.2 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

I ALSO DO WANNA NOTE THAT A COPY OF THE HOUSE RULE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.

63 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 500 FEET BUFFER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND TIME SINCE THE AGENDA HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, STAFF HAS RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND FOUR LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.

UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TWO MOTIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT.

AND SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I THINK A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I AM AS WELL.

THANK YOU, CALEB.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? DO WE HAVE ANY IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW? CONCENTRATION? NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

OKAY.

I I I DIDN'T RECALL ANY.

YEAH, THESE BLOCKS AWAY.

I BELIEVE THIS IS OVER AT THE MUSTANG CREEK SUBDIVISION.

JUST INFORMATIONAL.

YEAH.

SO BEHIND THE, UH, THE SURFACE CENTER? YES, SIR.

YEAH,

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UM, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAPS IMAGE OF THE HOUSE, THERE IS A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF IT IN THE, IN THE IMAGE.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE A PLACE THAT WILL HOUSE A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT GUESTS.

PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PARKING ON THE STREET.

AND WHAT ARE THE PARKING ACCOMMODATIONS? I'M SORRY.

SO THE, AND THAT'S TO YOUR POINT AS WELL.

UH, THE MAXIMUM PARKING ACCOMMODATION OFF STREET.

UM, SO THEY HAVE ENOUGH APPROVED SURFACE TO, TO ACCOMMODATE TWO, UH, THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE, BUT THEY'RE CHOOSING TO DO TWO, UH, FOR THIS, UH, STR BOTH DRIVEWAY, UH, I'M ASSUMING.

YES, MA'AM.

AND IT SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE A, LIKE A SITE PLAN IMAGE, UM, IN YOUR PACKET.

DON'T WE RESTRICT ON STREET PARKING FOR THIS? YES, SIR.

YES.

SO THIS WILL SOLVE THAT ISSUE, AT LEAST FOR THIS HOUSE, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY, YEAH.

UNTIL THE FIRST COMPLAINT, BUT I JUST, YEAH, I MEAN, THEN THEY GET YEAH, TICKETED.

I JUST HAVE A BIG CONCERN WITH EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE EMERGENCY CONTACT.

YES, MA'AM.

IS, IS IT IT IS, UH, 10 MILES AWAY.

THEY, THEY, THEY RESIDE 10 MILES AWAY.

THANK YOU KAYLA.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THANK YOU, CALEB.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AISLE? I SPEAK FOR .

EVERYBODY COME UP ONE BY ONE.

GO AHEAD.

UM, OKAY.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY.

YES.

UH, CHANCE ROBESON 2 1 15 STABLE DRIVE, UH, WAXAHATCHEE MUSTANG CREEK AREA TWO STREETS AWAY.

I HAVE, UH, SOME PRETTY VALID CONCERNS, SOME OF WHICH YOU ACTUALLY SHARE.

UH, I THINK THIS IS A CATALYST FOR DETERIORATING THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AIRBNBS HAVE NEVER PROVEN TO BE, OR SHORT TERM RENTALS AS A MATTER OF FACT BEEN PROVEN TO BE ANYTHING BUT A, A CALL FOR LOCAL RESOURCES FOR PUBLIC NUISANCES.

AND YOU HAVE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFLUXES OF PEOPLE COMING OVER DOING PARTIES.

LOUD NOISES.

WHILE THERE WAS A GREAT FACT POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS NO NOISE COMPLAINTS, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS.

UM, I HAVE A FAMILY OF FOUR.

I MOVED HERE TWO YEARS AGO FROM THE NORTH ALLEN AREA, UH, INVESTED QUITE A BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT I COULD LIVE IN A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I GET TO KNOW MY NEIGHBORS.

I KNOW I KNOW HER.

SHE LIVES RIGHT ACROSS FROM ME.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT SOCIAL FABRIC THAT I HAVE IS ENTRUSTED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF ME.

AND I DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH PEOPLE THAT CAN COME IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SOME OF MY CONCERNS ARE THAT IF THERE IS THE INCREASE OF SOME TYPE OF NUISANCES OR LOCAL DISTURBANCES, THEN THE CITY'S GONNA BE HELD LIABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LAW ENFORCEMENT IN PLACE FOR THAT AREA.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEM AREAS WITHIN WAXAHATCHEE.

I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, , SO I'M KIND OF CONCERNED THERE.

UM, LET ME SEE.

THE OTHER THING TOO IS I FEEL LIKE IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE ALSO TAKING AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY.

MAX SIMPSON IS A NEW SCHOOL THERE IN THAT AREA.

AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE THERE IS THAT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH BROKE.

IT'S A NEW SCHOOL, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING FOR MONEY.

WE HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE LIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE REASON WHY YOU SEE SO MANY CARS IS BECAUSE WE GOT AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING IN THAT AREA.

ON MY STREET ALONE, 70% OF THEM ALL RENT.

SO TO HAVE THAT, SORRY, I SPEAK A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT , IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THE SCHOOL IS ASKING FOR MONEY.

THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CONTRIBUTE TO THE SCHOOL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M OPPOSED, I'M OPPOSED AGAINST IT.

I THINK IT'S NOT GONNA SERVE THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.

SO, THANKS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD.

I, YEAH, I'VE GOT A COMMENT TOO.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

NO AHEAD, CHAD.

YOU STARTED NOW.

ALRIGHT.

I I I JUST WANTED TO, TO SAY WHOEVER OWNS A HOUSE, THEY OWN IT.

OKAY.

AND THEY HAVE, THEY CAN GO SHORT TERM OR THEY CAN GO LONG TERM.

IF YOU GO SHORT TERM, YOU HAVE RULES.

IF YOU GO LONG TERM, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY RULES

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SO IF YOU HAVE SHORT TERM, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WHOLE PARTIES.

IF THEY HAVE LONG TERM RENTAL, THEY CAN HAVE A PARTY EVERY NIGHT.

THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET.

IF YOU HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEY CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET.

SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE.

AND LONG TERM RENTAL, IF I, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS 30 DAYS.

I MEAN, SO I, I SEE YOUR POINT.

I THINK QUITE HONESTLY, I THINK WHENEVER I SEE THAT, IF, IF WE COULD GET YOU UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

YEAH.

CAN WE GET YOU UP TO COME BACK TO THE WE NEED TO RECORD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY.

NO, IT'S OKAY.

SO I I I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, I MEAN, WHOEVER OWNS IT CAN GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THEY CAN GO SHORT, THEY CAN GO LONG AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RULES WITH THE LOAN.

RIGHT.

WELL, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE.

IF WE HAVE STARTING AT MAYBE 0.1 WHAT 0.01% OF SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE AREA, BUT THEN THAT STARTS TO GROW, THEN THAT, THAT INSTRUMENTALLY IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S RESOURCES FOR THE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN NEGATIVELY.

AND AS A HOMEOWNER, IF THERE'S TRASH GARBAGE OR IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S INTOXICATED ON THAT SAME STREET, THAT PERSON'S GONE THE NEXT DAY.

BUT IF IT'S MY LOCAL, YOU KNOW, PERSON THAT LIVES NEXT TO ME, THERE'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.

THERE'S TRUST THERE, THERE'S A SOCIAL FABRIC THAT'S IN PLACE.

WE TAKE THAT AWAY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT IN FRONT OF MY KIDS.

IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE, MY KID PLAYS BASKETBALL.

I RIDE MY BIKE EVERY NIGHT WITH MY SON OR ON THAT SAME STREET AND ON THE OPPOSITE STREET ACTUALLY ONE STREET OVER.

THEY PUT UP SIGNS BECAUSE OF THE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC.

THEY HAVE GREEN POSTERS OR GREEN STANDS UP THERE TO SAY, PLEASE SLOW DOWN, WATCH OUT KIDS AT PLAY.

YOU THINK THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, I JUST SAYING, IT'S JUST STARTING A SAYING THAT IF THEY GO LONG TERM, EVERYTHING THAT YOU DESCRIBED THEY CAN DO.

RIGHT.

LEGALLY, EVERYTHING YOU DESCRIBED, SOMEBODY COULD CALL THE CITY ON 'EM AND THEY COULD RIGHT.

CITY WOULD.

SO I MEAN, IF THE OWNER OF THEIR PROPERTY DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE, YOU'VE GOT ONE OR THE OTHER.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THE EBBS AND FLOWS OF THAT PERCENTAGE OR THE, OR THE CHANCES, THE INCREASES OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENING.

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THERE, THEY COULD CARE LESS.

BUT IF SOMEBODY IS LONG TERM RENTING AND LET'S SAY THEY DO IT FOR A YEAR, ARE THEY, ARE THEY REALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEY REALLY YOUR NEIGHBOR? RIGHT.

I I MEAN YEAH.

CHIEF HUDGINS HAS MENTIONED PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

I WAS, I WAS GONNA SAY AS WELL.

YEAH.

TO, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE, THE DRUNK GUY NEXT DOOR.

I'D RATHER HIM LEAVE TOMORROW THAN BE THERE FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DURATION OF HIS LEASE.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

I, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE GROWN BEYOND HOTEL ROOMS. WE VRBO AND BED AND BREAKFAST OR UH, UH, AIRBNB A LOT.

I MEAN, ANYTIME WE GO ANYWHERE AND I'M NOT DRUNK IN THEIR YARD OR IN THEIR HOUSE OR THROWING PARTIES AND ALL OF THAT.

AND SO I JUST, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

AND, AND FIRST OFF, AND THEN THE SECOND THING TO TO, TO PILE ONTO, UH, CHIEF HUDGINS POINT, IF THAT HOMEOWNER WANTED TO LONG TERM RENT THAT WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

RIGHT.

SO WHEN, WHEN IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE AT LEAST HAVE A VOICE IN IT TO SPEAK UP.

AND IT'S JUST THAT IT'S SHORT TERM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU MAY GET A KNUCKLEHEAD, BUT HE'S GONNA BE GONE THE NEXT DAY.

AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT MY NEIGHBORS PARKING THEIR CAR IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

BUT IF IT'S A LONG TERM RENTAL, THEY CAN PARK IT WHEREVER THEY WANT TO PARK IT.

UNLESS YOUR HOA SAYS DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE, WE'RE BASICALLY ACTING LIKE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.

HOA, I MEAN, I GO BACK TO THE SAME POINT THAT I TALKED ABOUT HOW, HOW IF THAT PERCENTAGE STARTS TO GROW, THE LESS OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

AND I THINK THAT, THAT YOU'RE TAKING LONG, I'M LOOKING AT THE LONG TERM, RIGHT.

WHAT ARE THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS IT GROWS IF WE CONTINUE TO SET THAT PRECEDENT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

MY CONCERN IS, OR OR MY RETORT TO THAT IS THIS, ON THIS PANEL RIGHT HERE, HOW MANY OF US OWN HOMES DID Y'ALL? EVERY ONE OF US.