[1. Call to Order]
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ALL RIGHT, WE WILL CALL THE TUESDAY, JULY 15TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION.
FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME TO YOU WITH THANKSGIVING FOR THE BLESSING OF TODAY AND FOR ALL OF THE BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY.
FATHER, WE AGAIN WANT TO ASK A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR FELLOW TEXANS IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND GIVE THEM COMFORT AND STRENGTH IN THEIR TIME OF LOSS.
FATHER, WE ALSO ASK FOR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE THIS EVENING AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR CITIZENS.
FATHER, PLEASE FORGIVE US WHEN WE FALL SHORT.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC CAN DO SO.
IT'S NOT DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING, SO THERE'S NO INTERACTION WITH US.
[4. Consent Agenda]
ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH ARE ALL ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION DEEMS ARE ROUTINE IN NATURE AND WHICH CAN BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION.I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SO WE'RE GONNA DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE POSTED AGENDA AND MOVE
[17. Public Hearing on a request by Quinn Foster, Manhard Consulting, for a Zoning Change from a Single-Family-1 (SF-1) zoning district to Planned Development – General Retail (PD-GR) zoning district located directly north of 2400 North US Highway 77 (Property ID 189302) – Owner(s): Snow Peach Legacy Family Holding Spendthrift Trust (ZDC-75- 2025)]
DOWN TO NUMBER 17, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY QUINN FOSTER MANOR CONSULTING FOR ZONING CHANGE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY, ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH OF 2,400 NORTH US HIGHWAY 77, PROPERTY ID 1 8 9 3 0 2 OWNERS, SNOW PEACH LEGACY FAMILY HOLDING SPIN THRIFT TRUST ZDC DASH 75 DASH 2025.SO THIS SAYS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M SURE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, AND I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD NOW AND JUST CONFIRM THAT.
WOULD YOU MIND GIVING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? CITY SECRETARY.
COURT WALKS AT YOU, YOU'RE THE APPLICANT? I AM THE ENGINEER FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, AND I'M CONFIRMING THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL, DO YOU HAVE A DATE ON WHEN THE CONTINUES WILL BE? UH, OUR GOAL WAS, UH, NEXT MONTH, I BELIEVE.
SO NOT THIS NEXT COMING MEETING, WHICH IS TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, BUT FOUR WEEKS FROM NOW, THAT WOULD BE THE AUGUST, THE AUGUST 12TH AUGUST MEETING.
12TH, AUGUST 12TH MEETING, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE THIS UNTIL AUGUST 12TH.
SO WE WILL HEAR THAT CASE, UH, AT THAT TIME IT'LL BE REPOSTED AND, AND Y'ALL WILL, YOU KNOW, MADE AWARE THAT, THAT IT IS COMING, UH, TO US ON, ON, UH, AUGUST 12TH.
[18. Consider recommendation of ZDC-75-2025]
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.SO MOVE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
NEXT ITEM ON AGENDA, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE TOP, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY CHRISTOPHER CHILES.
SO THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN TWO WEEKS OR, OR, OR, OR A MONTH.
SO IN THAT INTERIM WITH QUESTIONS AND STUFF, YOU MIGHT CAN GET THOSE ANSWERED BY STAFF.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN.
I SAID WITH, WITH YOUR QUESTIONS, STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS
[5. Public Hearing on a request by Christopher Childs, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Short-Term Rental use within a Single-Family-3 (SF-3) zoning district located at 710 Perry Avenue (Property ID 174044) – Owner(s): Christopher Childs (ZDC-71-2025)]
FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY THREE ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED SEVEN 10 PERRY AVENUE PROPERTY ID 1 7 4 0 4 4.OWNERS, CHRISTOPHER CHILDS ZDC DASH 71 DASH 2025 ON.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A
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SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE LOCATED AT SEVEN 10 PERRY AVENUE.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SINGLE FAMILY THREE, WHICH IS THE SF THREE ZONING DISTRICT, AND IS SITUATED ON APPROXIMATELY 0.086 ACRES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE OF 2377 SQUARE FEET WITH THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS, AND ENOUGH IMPROVED SURFACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MAXIMUM OF THREE VEHICLES.
UM, JUST A BIT OF HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN FEBRUARY, 2025.
THE APPLICANT BEGAN TO, UM, ATTEMPT TO SUBMIT A SUP APPLICATION FOR THE STR USE ON APRIL 30TH AND COMPLETED THE APPLICATION PROCESS ON MAY 23RD, 2025.
DURING THIS PERIOD, THE APPLICATION ATTEMPTED TO REGISTER HIS STR WITH THE CITY'S VENDOR, BUT WAS ADVISED THAT THE SUP APPROVAL IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL, UH, PRIOR TO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.
DURING THE REVIEW OF THE SUP APPLICATION, STAFF IDENTIFIED A LISTING OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON AIRBNB AND INFORMED THE APPLICANT THAT THE ADVERTISEMENT OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS PROHIBITED AND THAT THE LISTING NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
THE APPLICANT WAS DIRECTED TO COMPLETE THE SGP APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS AND THE STR REGISTRATION PROCESS PRIOR TO ADVERTISING.
THE APPLICANT THEN UPDATED HIS LISTING TO BE AVAILABLE AS SOON AS JANUARY THE FIRST, 2026, AND STATED THAT HE HAD NOT UTILIZED THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHILE IT WAS ADVERTISED ON AIRBNB.
AT THE TIME OF THE POSTING OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE LISTING IS STILL LIVE AND AVAILABLE WITH RESERVATIONS TO BE AVAILABLE AS SOON AS AUGUST THE FIRST 2025, BUT AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL WHEN THE LISTING WAS IDENTIFIED, STAFF DISCOVERED THAT THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS TWO SEPARATE BEDROOMS AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 2 37 LILLIAN LANE.
ELLIS COUNTY DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD.
THERE WERE NO NUISANCE RELATED CALLS RECEIVED BY WAXAHATCHEE PD D WITHIN THE PAST 12 MONTHS.
THE LOCAL EMERGENCY CONTACT IS LOCATED ABOUT SIX MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STAFF.
SEND OUT A TOTAL OF 89 NOTICES, SIX LETTERS IN SUPPORT, AND TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? UM, DO YOU HAVE A DENSITY MAP? YES, WE DO OR WE SHOULD.
SO THE CLOSEST, UH, STR THAT WAS APPROVED AND IS, UH, LEGALLY OPERATING IS APPROXIMATELY 2,400 LINEAR FEET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, AND THE ONE THAT IS PENDING, UH, FOR APPROVAL IS APPROXIMATELY 1500, UH, LINEAR FEET AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
SO THE CLOSEST, OH, THERE'S 1 2400 SQUARE, 2,400 LINEAR FEET AWAY, A HALF A MILE AWAY, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY? CORRECT.
UM, THAT'S PENDING, UH, TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT OR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE AIRBNB FOR DAILY IS AVAILABLE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, BUT LONG-TERM IS AVAILABLE AS OF AUGUST 1ST, IS THAT RIGHT? SO INITIALLY WHEN, UM, WE RECEIVED THE APPLICATION, THE ADVERTISEMENT WAS FOR DAILY, AS SOON AS I BELIEVE JULY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE APPLICANT WAS THEN NOTIFIED TO REMOVE THE ADVERTISEMENT BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST CODE TO ADVERTISE PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE SUP FOR THE USE AND THE REGISTRATION.
SO THEN THE APPLICANT PROCEEDED TO CHANGE IT TO BE AVAILABLE AS SOON AS JANUARY THE FIRST AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL THEN? RIGHT.
UM, BEFORE THE STAFF, UM, THE POSTING OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT CHANGED IT TO AUGUST THE FIRST, BUT AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL.
AND THERE'S NO, IF, IF SOMEONE ADVERTISES ON AIRBNB FOR A LONG-TERM RENTAL OVER 30 DAYS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, BECAUSE
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THAT IS CONSIDERED A LONG-TERM RENTAL.ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ASK, BUT I'M I'LL WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY.
CHRISTOPHER CHILES 2 37 LILY LANE WA
SO YOU KIND OF JUMPED THE GUN.
JUMPED THE GUN IN WHAT WAY? WELL, DIDN'T YOU START THIS PROCESS BEFORE MAKING APPLICATION? WELL, I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I PUT THE APPLICATION IN OR TRIED TO, UH, AND SINCE MY SON AND I RUN THE BUSINESS, HE WENT AHEAD AND POSTED THE ADVERTISEMENT UP, BUT WE CHANGED IT TO 30 DAYS INSTEAD OF SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH WE HAPPEN TO USE THE MULTIPLE PLATFORMS FOR.
AND WE AREN'T ACCEPTING ANYTHING SHORT, SHORTER THAN A 31 OR 30 PLUS DAY STAY.
NOW THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S POSTED NOW.
WELL, THAT'S THE WAY WE CHANGED IT WHEN WE GOT TOLD THAT WE COULDN'T ADVERTISE AT A DAILY RATE.
AND I GUESS IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER FOR THIS ONE, BUT WE'VE GOT A SITUATION AT 2 37 LILLIAN, SO, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
RIGHT? IT'S NOT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL TO IT.
SO ALL THE RENTALS IN THOSE TWO SEPARATE BEDROOMS ARE LONG TERM.
AND THAT IS ALSO WHERE THE LOCAL EMERGENCY CONTACT IS AT THAT SAME ADDRESS, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND YOU'VE GOT, UH, DO WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING AT THIS LOCATION ON, SO ON SITE, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ENOUGH PARKING OR ENOUGH SURFACE FOR THREE VEHICLES, ONE SIDE.
OKAY, SO ONE OR TWO IN THE GARAGE AND ONE OR TWO ON THE DRIVEWAY I BELIEVE.
UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA DO AN EXTENDED CAB AND THEN IT WON'T FIT.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANKS SIR.
UH, HAVE YOU DEVELOPED ALL YOUR RULES YET? YES, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WAS THERE.
AND YOU HAVE, UH, YOU UNDERSTAND NO STREET PARKING AND, AND THE YEAH, IT, YES.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM.
DO YOU MIND GIVING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY? I AM KENDRA NORWOOD.
I AM THE OWNER OF 7 0 6 AND 7 0 8 PERRY NEXT TO SEVEN 10 PERRY.
AND SO I HAVE QUESTIONS, IS IT CURRENTLY RENTED AS SHORT OR IS IT VACANT? WHAT? 'CAUSE I'M, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT BEING RENTED OUT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL CODE.
AND SO IT WOULD BE LONG TERM, WHICH WOULD BE 31 DAYS OR MORE.
THEY'RE PERMITTED, UH, PER THE CODE AS OF ANYONE ELSE IN THE CITY TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY OUT FOR LONGER THAN 30 DAYS.
AND, UH, THEY'RE 89, UH, VOTES FOR AND TWO AGAINST.
IS THAT WHAT I HEARD EARLIER, THAT THERE WERE 89 APPROVAL VOTES? NO, WE, UH, SENT OUT NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AND THEN 500 FEET PER THE CODE.
UM, THERE WAS TWO LETTERS IN FAVOR AND TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
THE TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, I BELIEVE THEY CAME, UH, THEY WERE THE SAME SIX AND SUPPORT TO AN OFFICER.
THERE WAS SIX IN SUPPORT AND TO AN OPPOSITION, I APOLOGIZE.
SIX IN SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION.
AND INTO AN OPPOSITION WITHIN THOSE, I'M SORRY, SUBJECT AREAS.
I I'M THE OWNER OF 7 0 6 AND 7 0 8 PERRY.
SO I DID NOT RECEIVE NOTIFICATION TO VOTE FOR AGAINST DO WE KNOW WHERE THOSE NOTIFICATIONS WENT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE SENT TO ALL, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE MAILING ADDRESSES ACCORDING TO ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE MAILING LIST FROM.
UM, I'M ALSO A REALTOR, SO IT WOULD'VE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN SENT TO WHATEVER ADDRESS IS LISTED ON THE TAX RECORDS.
I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY PARTNER.
I'M CURRENTLY A REALTOR AND I UNDERSTAND QUIET ENJOYMENT IN THAT EVERYONE HAS THE
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RIGHT TO UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY CHOOSE.UM, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IT'S A 2200 SQUARE FOOT HOME AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE, UH, FOUR PARKING SPACES.
UM, WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY DEVELOPERS THAT CITY IS CURRENTLY PUTTING IN LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONNA CHANGE THAT BLOCK.
THAT BLOCK IS REALLY IN TRANSITION.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE COMING AND GOING OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN A 2200 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
THAT MEANS THAT, I MEAN, HOW MANY OCCUPANTS THAT WE COULD HAVE WITH FOUR CARS AVAILABLE? IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE EIGHT PEOPLE MAYBE LIVING THERE OR MORE.
WHICH WOULD BE WHAT WOULD OCCUR IN A LONG TERM RENTAL.
JUST, JUST CONCERN BECAUSE AGAIN, MY BUSINESS PARTNER AND I 7 0 6 AND 7 0 8 PERRY, WE BUILT HOMES FOR LONG-TERM FAMILIES WHO SHOP, SPEND MONEY, SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN, BUT I UNDERSTAND AS A REALTOR THAT EVERY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY CHOOSE.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE? WE WILL CLOSE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN
[6. Consider recommendation of ZDC-71-2025]
A MOTION.I MOVE THE RECOMMEND OF ZDC DASH 71 20 25 PACIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OUR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7. Public Hearing on a request by Jennifer Smolka, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Short-Term Rental use within a Single-Family-2 (SF-2) zoning district located at 821 Williams Street (Property ID 171711) – Owner(s): Smolka Holdings LLC Series C (ZDC-83-2025]
ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY JENNIFER SMOKO FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 8 21 WILLIAMS STREET.THIS IS SERIES CZDC DASH 83 DASH 2025.
ON ZDC DASH 83 DASH 2025, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE LOCATED AT 8 21 WILLIAMS STREET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SF TWO ZONING DISTRICT AND IS SITUATED ON APPROXIMATELY 0.306 ACRES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE OF 1459 SQUARE FEET WITH TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BATH, AND ENOUGH SU IMPROVED SURFACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MAXIMUM OF TWO VEHICLES.
THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED ON JUNE 4TH.
THE COUNTY DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A HOMESTEAD.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND HAS NOT BEEN PAYING HOT TAXES.
STAFF INQUIRED WITH THE WAXAHATCHEE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR, UM, FOR ANY NUISANCE RELATED, UM, AND FOUND ONE DISTURBANCE RELATED CALL THAT OCCURRED NEAR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, NOT AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BUT NEAR THE LOCAL EMERGENCY.
CONTACT IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY EIGHT MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STAFF.
SEND OUT A TOTAL OF A HUNDRED NOTICES AND RECEIVE FOUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND SIX LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
AND STAFF IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I'M NOT TOO SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES, SIR.
WE MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF YOU.
DO YOU MIND GIVING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY SECRETARY KEVIN MKA.
SO Y'ALL HAVE OWNED THIS FOR A WHILE? A LONG TIME.
I THINK MY SON OLD, MY THIRD SON LIVED THERE AND JUST GOT MARRIED AND MOVED TO FORNEY.
UH, AND YOU LIVED SOMEWHERE ELSE HERE IN WE LIVED HERE IN WASATCH.
WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 26 YEARS, BUT OKAY.
WE'VE BEEN COMING TO ATCH SINCE ABOUT 85 ON THE WEEKENDS.
UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HUDGINS MENTIONED ON THE OTHER APPLICATION THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE WERE ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HOUSE RULES, CONTACT INFORMATION, EMERGENCY INFORMATION.
IF I DID, I JUST, YEAH, I WENT THROUGH JENNIFER'S NOTES AND I SEE AND ALL, THERE'S A FLOOR PLAN AND A SITE PLAN, BUT YEAH, I'VE GOT THE WELCOME NOTE IN HERE, BUT WE SUBMITTED IT ALL WITH THE PACKAGE, BUT I CAN SEND IT BACK IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT.
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YEAH.DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW ON IF, IF WE HAVE THAT OR IT'S JUST, I MEAN, MOST OF THE TIME WHAT, WHATEVER PACKET IS LEFT IN THE HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, WE, THAT'S USUALLY SUBMITTED WITH THE, WE WE DO HAVE A SET OF HOUSE RULES.
WE JUST DID NOT PUT IN THE PACKET BURDEN.
SO Y'ALL HAVE RULES AND YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BROCHURE OR SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE HOUSE? YES, SIR.
BUT YOU'VE NEVER HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL BEFORE? NO, WE HAVE A LONG TERM AND THEN THIS ONE WAS LONG TERM.
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'VE DONE THE, THE AIRBNB OR SOMETHING SHORT LIKE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANKS SIR.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE WE WILL CLOSE.
[8. Consider recommendation of ZDC-83-2025]
WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC 83 DASH 2025 PACIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SHARP TERM RENTAL USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OUR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[9. Public Hearing on a request by Andy & Susan Ruebman for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Structure exceeding seven hundred (700) square feet use within a Single Family-2 (SF-2) zoning district located at 407 Brown Street, (Property ID 171234) – Owner: Andy Ruebman & Susan Ruebman (ZDC-67-2025)]
ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY ANDY AND SUSAN RUBEN.FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY TWO ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED AT 4 0 7 BROWN STREET PROPERTY ID 1 7 1 2 3 4.
OWNER ANDY RUBEN AND SUSAN RUBEN, ZDC DASH 67 DASH 2025.
UH, PER THE ZONING ARMS, UH, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR A SPECIFIC SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSION STRUCTURE, UH, DUE TO THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET AND THE NUMBER OF TOTAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, THIS IS KINDA A UNIQUE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS, THEY DID A, A MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE PROPERTY, MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE HOUSE.
UM, IT'S PREDOMINANTLY SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE AND, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE CARPORT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, PER THIS, UH, THIS, THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE PROPOSED CARPORT, UM, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE LOCATED, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, IN FRONT OF A DETACHED GARAGE.
UM, THIS CARPORT IS DESIGNED TO BE ARCHITECTURALLY SIMILAR TO THE HISTORIC, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOME EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE DESIGN, UH, MATERIALS WILL ALSO MATCH, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE, UH, STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE AT THIS PROPERTY IN TRYING TO, UM, EITHER DECREASE THE SIZE OR MOVE IT, UH, FROM THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, IS THIS EXISTING, UH, THIS PROPOSED CARPORT? UH, ONE WAY THEY COULD GET AWAY FROM APPLYING FOR AN SP WOULD BE ATTACHING IT TO THE HOUSE.
UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT DUE TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THIS HOME, UH, THEY WOULD BE, UM, THEY WOULD BE CAUSING ISSUES WITH THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOME.
AND SO IN ORDER TO AVOID CAUSING ANY DAMAGE, ANY, UM, TAKEN AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE OF THE HOME, UH, THEY CAN'T ATTACH THE CARPORT DIRECTLY TO THE HOUSE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE GARAGE BUILT, OR ORIGINALLY THE DETACHED GARAGE WAS BUILT APPROXIMATELY 1985.
UM, AND ATTACHING TO THE GARAGE WOULD ALSO TAKE AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC NATURE OF, OF THAT DETACHED GARAGE.
UM, NEXT DOOR, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING HOME AND THEY HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT'S ALSO IMPEDING INTO THE SETBACK.
UM, SO THIS PROPOSED CARPORT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AS WELL AND WOULD ALSO BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW MUCH THE GARAGE, THE DETACHED GARAGE IS SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THEY DO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY SHOWING THAT THEIR SUPPORT OF THE SUBJECT OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR THE CARPORT.
UM, AND FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THIS STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT.
IT DOES MEET THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE AND THAT, UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO ALL PROPER OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, WE MAILED OUT A TOTAL OF 24 NOTICES.
UM, WE RECEIVED 15 BACK IN SUPPORT, UH, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
SOME OF THOSE SUPPORT LETTERS WE DID RECEIVE MULTIPLE FROM THE SAME HOUSEHOLDS.
UH, THAT'S WHY THE NUMBER IS 15.
IT, IT'D PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE IF YOU WERE TO ACTUALLY PULL THEM OUT INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, IF, UH, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES BECAUSE WE'RE TYING IT INTO THE GARAGE, CORRECT?
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UH, THEY'RE NOT TYING INTO THE GARAGE.THEY ARE EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES.
UM, THAT THAT'S ONE REASON WHY THEY ARE, UM, EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES IS, IS THAT THEY CAN'T TIE INTO THE GARAGE 'CAUSE THAT HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE TO THE GARAGE.
BUT THEY COULDN'T TIE INTO THE HOUSE EITHER OR, UH, BOTH STRUCTURES, HUH? THEY'RE TRYING TO, THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE GARAGE AND AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO BE SIMILAR TO THE HOUSE.
UM, THERE ARE, THE GARAGE WAS BUILT IN 1985, CORRECT? YES.
UM, I MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AS HISTORIC NOWADAYS.
UH, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GARAGE AND THE DESIGN OF THE GARAGE, HOW THE FRONT OF THE CARPORT IS BEING DESIGNED WILL ACTUALLY BLEND IN WITH THE GARAGE.
IT HAS A SIMILAR FACADE TO THE DETACHED GARAGE.
IT'S IN THIS HAND DRAWING HERE.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL UNDER A CONTINUOUS, THERE'S INCHES IN BETWEEN THE CARPORT AND THE GARAGE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING, DIDN'T DRAW GARAGE.
AND HOW MUCH IS RIGHT? IT, IT'S, IT'S INCHES IN ORDER TO TIE IN.
ALSO TIE IN THE GARAGE, YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES OF, OF TRYING TO TIE THAT CARPORT INTO THAT GARAGE.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HAVING TO SEPARATE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS INTO IT.
UH, WE DID, UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO GO TO PLANE ZONING COMMISSION ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
UM, BUT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK OUT WAYS TO MAKE THIS CONSISTENT WITHOUT HAVING TO APPLY FOR AN SP STAFF'S BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
I WENT OUT TO THE SITE TO VISIT IT.
UM, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY AROUND THE SUP REQUEST THEY ARE PROPOSING IN THE FUTURE.
UH, ONCE EVERYTHING STARTS GETTING CONSTRUCTED, UH, ONE OF THOSE STRUCTURES IN THE REAR, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY REMOVING ONE OF THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURES FROM THE PROPERTY.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY? UH, WE'RE ANDY AND SUSAN RUBIN.
UM, JUST TO TO BEGIN, UM, I THINK WHEN WE HAD YOU GUYS OUT AND LOOKED, WE HAD ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING THE ROOF LINE OUT, UH, AWAY FROM THE GARAGE.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, CLARIFICATION, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, DRAWING, CRUDE DRAWING IS, IS ACCURATE FROM WHAT, UH, ARCHITECTURALLY AND, UH, STRUCTURALLY THAT WE KIND OF WANTED TO DO.
UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, ENGINEERS AND, AND COMPANIES COME LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE AND IT CAN BE TIED IN ACCURATELY AND STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, REMOVING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BEHIND THE, UH, GARAGE ITSELF, UM, IN TIME.
UM, SO WE'RE ALL, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP.
WOULD THE STRUCTURE BE TIED TO THE GARAGE? THE, THE EXISTING, THE, THE QUICK AND, OR THE LONG AND SHORT, QUICK AND NARROW, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
THE, THE HARD BURDEN THAT I HAVE IS IF WE AS, AND I'M JUST ONE VOTE UP HERE, BUT IF WE BEND THE RULES FOR YOU, THEN WE GOTTA BEND THE RULES FOR EVERY ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN GROUND.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF TRICKY.
SO WE START TALKING ABOUT, SO THE, SO THE, THE IDEA FROM THE BEGINNING WAS TO EXTEND THE, THE ROOF LINE OUT.
UM, THE, THE, UH, THE ISSUE THAT WE WERE HAD PROPOSED OR WAS PROPOSED TO IS THAT IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, PERMITTING FOR THE GARAGE BACK IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES WAS THAT, UM, THEY FOLLOWED THE, THE CODE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS A THREE FEET SETBACK FROM THE LINE AT THAT POINT.
AND FOR US TO EXTEND THAT ROOF OUT AND, AND CREATE THE CARPORT, NOW THAT SETBACK IS FIVE FEET.
SO WE WERE, WE WERE, UM, ADVISED TO COME SEE YOU GUYS AND, AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THAT DEVI DEVIATION TO THAT CODE TO EXTEND IT.
NOW, UM, SUSAN AND I, I, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT THE LITTLE SPIEL THAT I WAS GONNA SAY
AND WE'VE TRIED TO FOLLOW EVERY, EVERYTHING PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD.
AND TO TAKE THIS, THIS, UM, HISTORIC, UH, FOLK VICTORIAN BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL.
UM, I MEAN WE, THE FRONT YARD, THE BACKYARDS WERE OVERGROWN,
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THE HOUSE WAS, AND UM, YOU KNOW, A HOARDER HAD LIVED IN THERE.SO, UM, SO WE, UM, WHEN THE HEAD STORM, WHEN THE HAILSTORM CAME, WE WERE 90% DONE AND WE GOT, WE GOT BEAT TO HECK.
SO, UM, STILL WORKING ON IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAD SPECIAL GO GUTTERS INSTALLED TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT BEAT.
SO, UM, I, I RESTORE ANTIQUE VEHICLES AND THE IDEA WAS TO PUT MY OLD CARS IN THE GARAGE AND OUR EVERYDAY DRIVERS COULD GO IN THE CAR UNDER THE CARPORT.
SO, UM, SO, UM, WE TALKED TO, UH, LIKE JOHNNY THOMPSON AND, AND, UM, TRENT AND, AND EVERY, EVERYBODY THAT WE COULD TO TRY TO COME UP WITH OPTIONS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS STUFF.
UM, AND WE HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE WAY THE, THE DRIVEWAY'S BEEN POURED, THAT POSSIBLY THE ORIGINAL BUILDERS OF THAT GARAGE HAD ANTICIPATED TO PUT A CARPORT ON THE FRONT.
UM, BUT TO, AND TO, UH, EXTEND THAT GABLE OUT AND MIMIC THAT, THAT WHOLE FACADE TO LOOK LIKE THE GARAGE ITSELF.
UM, OUR PLANS ARE TO USE LIGHT POSTS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT PORCH OF THE HOUSE TO REFLECT THE HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT GROUP.
SO, UM, AND I, IF I COULD SAY ONE THING JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.
SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, THE BACKYARD WAS OVER 15 FEET TALL.
WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT OUR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE THERE TO ANSWER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'VE BEEN UTILIZING THEM FOR THE RENTAL.
EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THOSE, IN THOSE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES HAS LEFT OVER A SHIPLAP BEAD BOARD WINDOWS.
SO OUR, OUR INTENTION IS THE ONE THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE GARAGE DOES NOT FOLLOW THE ROOF LINE.
WE FOUND OUT FROM THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, IT WAS USED AS A CHICKEN COOP.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO EMPTY THAT OUT AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO GET RID OF THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT ONE IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING RID OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I FIGURED IT, I FIGURED I TALKED WITH THE VARIANCE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
MY GARAGE LITERALLY ALMOST THE, THE OVERHANG DRAINS INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
IT WAS APPROVED, BUT I MEAN, ON THESE NARROW LIGHTS, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
WELL, WE ARE, I HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT.
YEAH, WE DEFINITELY ARE GONNA DO THAT.
BUT LIKE I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR YOUR, YOUR RENOVATION.
BUT THE GOOD PART OF THAT IS YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOUSE AT A CHEAP PRICE BECAUSE OF IT AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE ARGUMENTS BACK AND FORTH.
THE ONLY HEARTBURN THAT I HAVE IS WHEN IF YOU'VE GOT AN, UH, AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES, WE GOT 'EM TO GET 'EM BACK WITHIN THE, THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT OUR RULES ARE.
AND, AND I GET THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS WE'VE SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF AND WE GOT IT WHERE WE WANTED IT AND WE'RE SO EXCITED, AND THEN WE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE MATERIALS AND PROBABLY TAKE 'EM TO OUR FARM AND PUT 'EM IN IT.
DO THAT FIRST, THEN YOU GOT A YES.
VOTE FOR ME, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT WE CAN'T, WE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT 'CAUSE OF THE RAIN.
AND SO WE THOUGHT, OKAY, LET'S GET A CARPORT BEFORE WE HAVE MORE DAMAGE TO OUR VEHICLES BECAUSE IT'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO STEP UP AND REALLY DO THE RIGHT THINGS.
SO, BUT JUST TO, WE TALKED BEFORE THE, THE PLAN ALL ALONG WAS TO DO AWAY WITH THAT STRUCTURE BEHIND THE GARAGE.
AND, UM, SO THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR HONOR, WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF IT OR WHATEVER.
AND I UNDERSTAND, WE, I UNDERSTAND WE HAD A GUY OUT ALL THE TIME.
HOW MANY WEEKS AGO WAS IT AND HE WAS RENTING OUT OF, OF A STORAGE BUILDING AS A, AS A DUPLEX.
OH, WELL NO, THIS ONE HAD SYRINGES IN I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT YES, THAT IS 100% THE INTENTIONS, UH, OF YEAH.
OF, UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE MAIN CONCERN WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, GETTING IT, THE DRAWINGS AND THE ENGINEER AND THE, ALL THAT INVOLVED WAS THE THREE FEET SETBACK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED, THAT WE NEEDED TO GET APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU
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KNOW, I'LL WORK WITH, UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO GET TO THIS PROGRESS OR TO THIS, THIS STEP.YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THIS MOVED FORWARD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO IMPROVE THE RIGHT, IMPROVE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S, WE JUST GOTTA, WE EITHER GOTTA ATTACH THE GARAGE, THE CARPORT OR REMOVE A BUILDING ONE OF THE TWO.
AND IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO SIGN DOCUMENTS OR WHATEVER, HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD TO GET THIS, THE SETBACK APPROVAL, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ONE BIT SIGNING ANY KIND OF DOCUMENTS OR, OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
OR IF WE'RE GIVEN A TIME YEAH.
HONOR, THEN WE'LL HONOR THAT TIME AND COME BACK AND SAY THAT WE'RE DONE HONOR HUNDRED PERCENT HONOR.
DO YOU GUYS THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT THE TIME OF FINISHING THE CARPORT? I THINK THAT'S VERY REASONABLE.
SO IF, IF THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO, TO P AND Z, WE COULD MAKE A CONDITION ON THE APPROVAL THAT BY THE TIME OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR FINALS YOUR CARPORT, YOU'LL HAVE THAT ACCESSORY BUILDING REMOVED.
IF THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL DAY.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.
UM, BUT THAT'S, I I GUESS THE, THE SOLUTION I COULD PROVIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.
I I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER APPROVED AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE GREATER THAN 700 SQUARE FEET AND, AND REQUIRED THEM, REQUIRED SOMEONE TO TAKE SOMETHING DOWN IN THE BACK.
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME PRECEDENT WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.
AND I'VE GOTTA WARM OUR BAND, SO Y'ALL GOTTA GIVE ME SOME TIME.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AND AND FOR THE RECORD TOO, PLEASE.
THIS IS, THAT'S MY STANCE ON ALL OF THEM THAT COME HERE.
AND HERE AGAIN, IT'S THE, IT'S THE CAN OF WORMS, RIGHT? I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.
WE DON'T DON WE DRIVE DOWN THE ALLEYS.
WE KNOW WHAT'S, WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THE CITY ANYWAY.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WE WE'RE ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
WE'RE ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S, WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, SO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU HAVE YES, SIR.
COMMENT JUST AS IT RELATES TO THE CARPORT ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE, THERE'S BEEN A PAD THAT'S BEEN POURED THERE SINCE 1982.
SINCE 1982, AS THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS INTENDED.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S JUST HONESTLY JUST 40 PLUS YEARS AFTER THE FACT, UH, OF, OF PUTTING IT ON THERE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND, AND I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THE SAME THING THAT IT, THAT THE APPROVAL WOULD BE CONTINGENT 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT AT COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO, BUT THIS IS OF COURSE IS WHAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[10. Consider recommendation of ZDC-67-2025]
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CZDC DASH SIX SEVEN DASH 2 0 2 5.
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET USED WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SF TWO ZONING DISTRICT SUBJECTS, THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT, AS WELL AS THIS DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU MENTIONED WHERE WE GET A, A WRITTEN COMMITMENT TO REMOVE THIS STRUCTURE.
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[11. Public Hearing on a request by Ryan Blevins for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for an Accessory Structure +700 square feet within a Single Family-1 (SF-1) zoning district located at 601 North Grand Avenue (Property ID 176840) – Owner(s): Thomas & Veronica Schaeffer (ZDC-74-2025)]
NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC HEARING ON REQUEST BY RYAN BLEVINS.FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE GREATER THAN 700 SQUARE FEET WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY, ONE ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED 6 0 1 NORTH GRAND AVENUE PROPERTY ID 1 7 6 8 4 0.
OWNERS, THOMAS AND VERONICA SCHAFER, ZDC DASH 74 DASH 2025.
THEY'RE, UH, THIS IS LOCATED AT 6 0 1 NORTH GRAND AVENUE.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN EXCESSIVE STRUCTURE EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET AND COMBINED FLOOR AREA AND USE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY ONE AND SINGLE FAMILY TWO DISTRICTS.
THE PROPOSED, UH, USE WOULD BE A 700 FOOT SQUARE FOOT, UH, STRUCTURE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO USE IT AS A, A STORAGE FACILITY SHOP, UM, A PLACE FOR THEM TO WORK OUT.
IN 2022, THERE WAS A 700 FOOT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 700 FOOT, UH, UH, STRUCTURE, LIKE EXCEED SEVEN OH SQUARE FEET,
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UM, FOR A POOL HOUSE.THE, UH, PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, STAFF DID MOUNT NOTICE ALL PROPERTY YARD WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, WITH THIS, AS YOU CAN SIGN, THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THIS, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, ONCE AGAIN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN AND OVERALL FILL OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, IN THIS AREA, THERE'S OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THESE LARGER LOTS, UM, OF SIMILAR SIZE.
UH, HERE'S THE PROPOSED LA UH, PROPOSED DESIGN BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED EXCESSIVE STRUCTURE THAT THEY PLAN ON HAVING, UM, AT THIS PROPERTY.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR STORAGE.
UH, AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS THEY WILL MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS WILL NOT BE USED FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
UH, THEY WILL NOT, UH, METER THIS SEPARATELY, THAT IT'LL BE ON THE SAME BOTH WATER AND THE ELECTRICAL METER AS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY CODE.
AND STAFF CAN, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SO I, I'VE GOT, LEMME SEE IF I CAN FIND, I'VE GOT ONE.
UH, THE, I GUESS THE PAVEMENT GOES TO THE EXISTING GARAGE AND IT WON'T EXTEND ANY FURTHER OR THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND IT TO PAST WHERE THE POOL IS.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE YEAH.
AND THAT'S AN EASEMENT, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
IT'S A, IT'S BASICALLY SYCAMORE STREET.
OR RIGHT OF WAY THAT UNDEVELOPED RIGHT OF WAY.
THE PAVEMENT WILL NOT GO, UH, BEYOND THE GARAGE.
SO THERE WON'T BE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE TO THIS.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? WELL, IT, IT'S THE SAME SITUATION AS THE LAST ONE, RIGHT? WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR NUMBER OF AUXILIARY STRUCTURES.
UM, THIS ONE'S SQUARE FOOTAGE OF STRUCTURES.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY EXCESS STRUCTURE THEY HAVE IS THE POOL HOUSE.
THERE'S A, LIKE A CABANA IN THIS BY THE POOL.
AND I SAY THIS JUST 'CAUSE DEAR FRIENDS OF MINE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE PREVIOUSLY, BUT, AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A POOL HOUSE BE ON THE NORTH RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND GENERALLY WITH CABANAS, WE GENERALLY HAVE NOT COUNTED THEM AS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES PER THE DEFINITION.
GENERALLY WE'RE GOOD CABS AS ACCESS INSTRUCTIONS.
NO, WE, WE HAVEN'T EXCEEDED OUR LIMIT.
AND THIS PROPERTY IS OVER AN ACRE? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S OVER SEVEN.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.
I LIVE AT 6 0 1 NORTH GRAND WASATCH.
YOU MUST BE MR. BLEVINS WHO'S GONNA BUILD IT.
UH, SO IS IT GONNA HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OFF THAT EASEMENT? WE, WE CAN, I MEAN, YEAH.
WELL, NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE YOU GONNA, WELL, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE THAT ACCESS TO IT.
THERE'S NO VEHICLES OR ANYTHING OKAY.
THIS IS JUST STRICTLY FOR OVER STORAGE FROM THE INSIDE.
THAT'S WHAT I, I COULDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND.
IF YOU WERE GONNA DRIVE DOWN THE YES SIR.
I UNDERST GRASS AND THEN TURN IN.
APPARENTLY Y'ALL DON'T LIKE TO MOW.
YOU'RE COVERING A LOT OF GROUND LOOK.
LUCKY YOU THAT'S A BIG YARD TO MOW.
IS THIS ONE THAT I SAID WHERE YOUR WIFE'S GOT ALL THIS, HER SEASONAL DECORATIONS OR WAS THAT SOME OF YOUR
YOUR WHOLE FRONT YARD WAS
I CAN'T SEE THE DIMENSIONS, BUT IS THAT A FULL-SIZED BASKETBALL COURT? YES, SIR.
MAN, THAT'S SOME GOOD PICKUP GAMES.
IF YOU PUT IN PICKLEBALL, YOU'LL GET RICH
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANKS SIR.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR OR AGAINST SEEING NO ONE.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN
[12. Consider recommendation of ZDC-74-2025]
A MOTION.I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH SEVEN FOUR DASH 2025.
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 700 SQUARE FEET AND COMBINED FLOOR AREA.
USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[13. Public Hearing on a request by Marisa Brewer, McAdams, for a Zoning Change from a Planned Development – Commercial (PD-5-C) zoning district to Planned Development Multi-Family-1 (PD-MF-1) zoning district located at 501 Houston Street (Property ID 189345 – Owner(s): Skanda Investments, LLC and Masina Investments, LLC (ZDC-174- 2024)]
NEXT ITEM.IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST BY MARISSA BREWER MCADAMS FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM
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A PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT MULTI-FAMILY ONE ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED 5 0 1 HOUSTON STREET, PROPERTY ID 1 8 9 3 4 5.OWNER SCANA INVESTMENTS, LLC AND MESSINA INVESTMENTS.
L-L-C-Z-D-C DASH 1 74 DASH 2024.
WHO'S GOT THIS ONE ON ZDC DASH 1 74 DASH 2024 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS PD DASH FIVE DASH C TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY ONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS PD DASH MF DASH ONE, LOCATED AT 5 0 1 HOUSTON STREET WITH UM, 500, I'M SORRY, 5.889 ACRES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LOCATED, HAS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE, THOUGH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE MIXING OF ACTIVITIES.
THE PROPOSED USE DOES PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE DENSE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS EXISTING ON THE NORTH SIDE AND A LESS DENSE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND UM, THE UNITS PER ACRE THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS 10.19 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, IN COMPARISON TO YOUR TYPICAL 18 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, THAT IS ALLOWED FOR BASE ZONING OF MULTIFAMILY ONE.
UM, THIS TYPE OF DENSITY TRANSITION AND DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE.
WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES A TOTAL OF NINE BUILDINGS, UM, TO INCLUDE 60 UNITS.
AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS TWO STORIES.
EACH BUILDING RANGES FROM FOUR TO EIGHT ATTACH UNITS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT EXCEEDS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT OF 100, WHICH THEY ARE PROPOSING 105.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING ATTACH REAR ENTRY GARAGE FOR EACH UNIT WITH THE REMAINING REQUIRED PARKING TO BE PARALLEL ALONG THE PRIMARY DRIVE AISLES ACCESS WILL BE FROM HOUSTON STREET THROUGH AN ACCESS EASEMENT IN JOHNSTON BOULEVARD.
THE ACCESS EASEMENT WILL BE ALONG THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN BOUNDARIES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT CONFIRMED THAT THE ACCESS EASEMENT WILL BE FILED PRIOR TO THE PLAT APPLICATION SUBMITTAL.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS PER CODE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL AND PLANTING TREES ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY TO SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND NORTHGATE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WITH INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS AND ALSO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SET OF PROPOSED EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FEATURING PRIMARILY STONE WITH ACCENTS OF BRICK AND HARDY BOARD PLANKS UTILIZED IN VARIOUS WAYS FOR EACH BUILDING ALL PROPOSED STRUCTURES UTILIZE THE SAME ELEVATIONS.
AND HERE WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS AND THE PROPOSED MATERIALS.
UH, SHOULD Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ON ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? UH, YES I DO.
THESE ARE JUST REGULAR TOWNHOUSES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
ATTACHED, I MEAN THEY'RE OPEN TO ANYBODY COR UH, CORRECT.
SO THE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A SENIOR'S PROJECT OR ANYTHING.
CORRECT? IT'S NOT AGE RESTRICTED.
AND ALSO THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS ESSENTIALLY DEVELOPED IN A SENSE A WAY IS SIMILAR TO AN APARTMENT WHERE THEY WON'T BE SUBDIVIDED, UM, INTO INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS LOOKING AT IT THAT I COULDN'T REALLY TELL THAT MUCH, BUT IF THERE'S CHILDREN, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE A PLAYGROUND OR I SAW SOME KIND OF AREA RIGHT THERE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY KIND OF PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS OR, OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT LOOKED LIKE A, A PICKLEBALL COURT AND, AND THAT WAS BASICALLY IT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND SHE'LL BE ABLE TO ELABORATE MORE ON THAT.
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A PD, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, PER THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, THEY ARE WANTING TO, UM, MAKE PART OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE, THAT HAVE EIGHT UNITS AT ATTACHED UNITS TO BE LONGER OR WIDER, I SHOULD SAY, UM, THAN THE BAY ZONING OF MF ONE.
IF THAT'S A PD, IT'S THAT THAT PD SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT WAS ALLOWED IN THAT, ON THAT SITE.
SO YOU MEANT THE EXISTING PD THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY? YES.
SO THE EXISTING PD, UM, ALLOWS, UM, ONLY USES FOR THE BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY IS NOT WITHIN A PERMITTED USE.
WELL, AND FOLLOWING UP ON YOURS, YOU SAID IT'S ONLY COMMERCIAL, THE BAY ZONING FOR THE EXISTING PDS COMMERCIAL THE WAY RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S COMMERCIAL.
SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THEN THAT SOMEBODY COULD GO IN AND BUILD ALMOST LIKE A STORAGE UNIT THAT THEY RENT OUT FOR COMMERCIAL USE? SO THE PD ALSO REQUIRES THAT, UM, ANY TYPE OF SITE PLAN THAT COMES IN, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO THERE ARE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL PLANNING ZONING DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, IN THIS PD THAT'S EXISTING, WHATEVER THAT UM, IS BEING DEVELOPED SHALL, UM, SHALL GO THROUGH PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WITH THEIR SITE PLAN.
BUT IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHATEVER'S BY RIGHT.
IN COMMERCIAL, THEY CAN DO IT.
THEY CAN DO, BUT THEIR SITE PLAN, WHENEVER THEY DO DEVELOP OR SUBMIT, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO THEN THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO COMPLY WITH BUILDING STANDARDS, ORDINANCES, TRAFFIC, PARKING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THERE WASN'T ANYTHING, THERE WASN'T ANY MULTI-FAMILY THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED IN THAT PD, IT WAS JUST STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONE.
SO IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE TOWN HOME PROJECT THAT WE APPROVED A MONTH OR SO AGO OUT ON 6 64 AND 2 87? I MEAN, UH, IT WAS CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YEAH, THAT ONE CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES.
UM, WELL THIS IS NOT, DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ON THE SURFACE EVEN REMOTELY AS NICE AS THAT PRO PROJECT OUT THERE.
UH, BUT IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT.
IT'S A, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME ON ONE ONE PLATTED LINE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT DENSITY WAS OUT THERE? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I, I WOULDN'T GO OUT TO, WAS THAT, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT DENSE EITHER.
IT, IT WAS PRETTY LOW DENSITY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THERE WEREN'T, THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF UNITS IN THAT ONE.
YEAH, PROBABLY NINE TO NINE TO 11.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? WELL, I, I UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THE SUBDIVISION IS ON YOUR LEFT, UH, IS THERE ANY SCREENING WALLS? ANYTHING THAT UH, IS REQUIRED OR ON THE SIDE? NO.
YEAH, RIGHT TO YOUR RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, SO THE APPLICANT IS UM, PROPOSING A SIX FOOT MASONRY, UH, SCREENING WALL.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THEIR DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE AND THEN THEY ARE PLANTING UH, TREES.
MM-HMM
I'M A PLANNER WITH MCADAMS. UM, WE'RE LOCATED AT 4 4 0 0 STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 LEWISVILLE, TEXAS.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO GO THROUGH UM, ON, DO YOU HAVE THE CLICKER OR IS THERE, GO AHEAD AND I'LL CLICK THROUGH.
SO, UM, JUST TALKING THROUGH KIND OF THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, LOOKING AT THE SITE, IT'S VERY FLAT AND YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY ON THE TOPO IT'S JUST KIND OF LEVELS OUT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE UM, TOWN HOMES TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE SOUTH YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL UM, HOUSING.
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AND THEN ON THE EAST AND WEST YOU HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL, UM, PDC KIND OF LIKE ON TALKED ABOUT.SO A LOT OF WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS BASICALLY KIND OF WHAT ON HAS ALREADY TOUCHED ON.
SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH FAIRLY FAST.
PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON A CERTAIN SLIDE.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH IT.
SO I PULLED THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM THE 2016 PLAN AS ON HAS POINTED OUT IT'S THE 2023 PLAN THAT Y'ALL HAVE UPDATED.
UM, SO TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT MIXED USE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE AND KIND OF TRANSITIONING FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL INTO YOUR, UM, KIND OF MORE HIGHER DENSITY TO YOUR COMMERCIAL TO THE HIGHWAY, UM, KIND OF FITS IN WITH THAT MIXED USE AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO PLEASE DISREGARD THE SLIDE.
UM, TALKING TO THE EXISTING ZONING, UM, PDC, UM, LISTED OF SOME COM, SEVERAL COUPLE USES THAT ARE IN THAT DISTRICT.
UM, AGAIN ON TOUCHED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO TOO THROUGH, THROUGH TOO MUCH.
BUT WE ARE REQUESTING A PD AS A MULTIFAMILY.
UM, SO WE ARE NOT DOING OBVIOUSLY TRADITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY'RE ON ONE LOT AND THEY ARE FOR RENT.
SO WE DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BACK, UM, IN APRIL 16TH.
WE SENT OUT LETTERS ON APRIL 4TH.
UM, WE SENT OUT ABOUT 34 JUST TO KIND OF REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, UM, THREE PEOPLE DID ATTEND.
UM, AND JUST WANTED TO OPEN UP AND DO A PRESENTATION TO THEM TO ALLOW THEM TO COME AND, UM, PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON THE PLAN ITSELF.
YOU SAID HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED? ONLY THREE.
AND WE WEREN'T, WE HAD SENT THE RECORDS BASED OFF OF UM, WHAT ELLI COUNTY CAD HAD PULLED AND SO WE SENT THE MAILING ADDRESSES TO THOSE, THOSE THREE FOUR.
UM, AND SO WE WEREN'T SURE, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE WHO I'VE RECEIVED THEM OR NOT, WE KNEW OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE SHOWED UP, BUT, UM, WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE COULD.
AND THEN THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN ITSELF ON TALKED ABOUT 60, UM, TOWN HOMES ON 5.889 ACRES.
WE ARE PROPOSING THAT SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL WITH A DETENTION.
UM, WE ARE OUR FURTHER SETBACK OF A BUILDING, UM, IT'S 53 FEET.
SO THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE CODE.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT REQUIREMENT.
UM, BUT THE MOST OF THE UNITS ARE ABOUT 98 FEET SETBACK FROM THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A BUFFER, UM, IN BETWEEN THE MASONRY WALL AND THEN THE FIRST FIRE LANE THAT YOU SEE, UM, THAT IS A DETENTION POND THAT WILL BE THERE.
AND THEN ALSO TOUCHING ON THE LANDSCAPING, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TREES PLANTED ALONG THAT WALL AS WELL.
UM, A MIX OF CANOPY TREES AND ACCENT TREES.
UM, ALONG THAT AND MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A PICKLEBALL COURT AND THEN THERE ALSO IS A PLAYGROUND, UM, EQUIPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PICKLEBALL COURT IN THE CONDITIONS.
I KNOW THAT IT STATED THAT THERE WAS A MINIMUM OF FIVE AMENITIES.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE TRY TO PROVIDE THAT AS WELL WITHIN THE, UM, SUB UH, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO YOU, YOU SAID YOU WERE ABLE TO MEET THAT CONDITION.
SO WE HAVEN'T, UM, WE HAVE FOUR PROPOSED.
UM, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT FIFTH ONE, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT CONDITION.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.
AND THEN JOHNSON BOULEVARD WE TALKED, WE WORKED WITH, UM, THE CITY TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE WAS AN EXTENSION.
THERE IS, UM, A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE JOHNSON BOULEVARD EXTENSION INTO THE HIGHWAY.
UM, THAT'S AN EASEMENT RIGHT THERE, UM, IN BETWEEN THE BACK OF OUR LOTS AND THEN THE OTHER LOT.
SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ARE GONNA PROPOSE A EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE TO JOHNSON BOULEVARD.
SO THOSE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN HOME PIECE WILL NOT BE ACCESSING UM, JOHNSON BOULEVARD AS ITS PRIMARY IN AND OUT.
IT WOULD JUST BE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESSES.
SO THAT MAKES FOR ONE IN ONE OUT.
SO THERE'S UM, THERE'S TWO INS AND OUTS OFF OF UM, MARK TRAIL.
AND THEN OFF OF UM, KIND OF GOING INTO HOUSTON, UM, THAT LITTLE SLIVER ALSO OFF MARK TRAIL, SO IT WOULD MAKE A LOOP.
AND THEN THAT WAS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO INSIDE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE AMENITIES.
WHAT, WHERE DO YOU, WHAT, WHERE DO YOU STAND RIGHT NOW? YOU SAID FOUR.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WE HAVE BENCHES AND THERE'S A LIST OF AMENITIES THAT ARE, UM, REQUIRED OR CAN BE PICKED FROM AS FAR AS OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, WASTE STATIONS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE, UM, WHAT WOULD FIT IN THE AREA.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE
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REAR BACKYARDS THAT ALSO ARE GONNA BE FENCED IN.SO THAT WOULD BE A SPACE FOR THE FAMILIES TO USE AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED ONE OF THE FIVE AMENITIES THOUGH, IS IT? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED RIGHT.
SO YOU'VE GOT FOUR NOW AND YOU'RE GONNA DO ONE, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA PICK IT FROM THE LIST, IS THAT RIGHT? WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IT.
UM, ON THERE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT, UM, WITH THE AMENITIES PROVIDED, WERE WE MISSING THAT ONE? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD SAID THAT THERE WAS THE FIVE AND THERE WERE I SHOW FOUR.
YES, THERE WERE FIVE, UM, PER CODE, HOWEVER, I'LL HAVE TO REFER BACK TO THE CODE, UM, AFTER THE MEETING AND I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK THAT, LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN WE'LL, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THAT AS A CONDITION AS WELL FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A TOTAL OF FIVE AMENITIES.
AND THOSE WILL BE, IF, IF THIS IS PASSED, THOSE WILL BE READY ON, ON DAY ONE, MOVE IN.
THERE IS A, UM, A CONDITION AS FAR AS APPROVAL GOES THAT UM, BEFORE, UH, CO'S UM, GIVEN THAT THE AMENITIES HAVE TO BE PREPARED AND READY FOR THE FIRST TENANT.
IS THIS TRACK GONNA BE SEPARATELY PLATTED OR IS IT STILL GONNA BE A PART OF THE OTHER TRACK? SO IT'LL BE SEPARATELY PLOTTED FROM THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LOCATED TO THE NORTH.
AND, UM, SORRY WE WERE HAVING, UH, MICROPHONE ISSUES, BUT UM, TO ANSWER MRS. JOHNSON'S QUESTION, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION ON OUR STAFF REPORT THAT ALL OF THE AMENITIES MUST BE INSTALLED BEFORE THE FIRST CO GETS ISSUED.
SO DID, DID THE, DOES THE EXISTING OWNER ALSO OWN THE OTHER TOWN HOMES? YES.
BUT THEY'RE PLATTING THIS PLATTING THIS OUT.
WHEN WERE THOSE TOWN HOMES BUILT? THEY'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, RIGHT? 25.
SO WILL THE PEOPLE FROM THIS NEW UH, PROJECT BE ABLE TO GO TO THE SWIMMING POOL ALSO? SO I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY WERE BUILT IN 85, THEY'D DO A HISTORICAL MARKER APPARENTLY.
RIGHT?
BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SAME OWNER, THE SAME, THE SAME OWNER IS GONNA OWN BOTH AND IS GONNA MANAGE BOTH OR SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA MANAGE BOTH OF THEM.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE LEASING OFFICE WHERE IT'S AT NOW FOR BOTH OF THEM? I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.
WE DO HAVE, UM, WE HAVE THE A UM, THE ARCHITECT AND THE OWNER HERE AS WELL.
SO IF THEY WANNA COME UP AND SPEAK OR SHARE ANYTHING, THEY CAN COME UP AS WELL.
TERRY, TERRY WRIGHT WAS THE RIGHT GROUP.
ABOUT TO GIVE YOU THE HOUSE ADDRESS.
MY OFFICE IS 1430 SOUTH BROADWAY STREET, CARROLLTON, TEXAS.
THE, THAT WAS THE NICE VANTAGE TAKING THE ROAD SHARING, KIND OF CREATING THE AMENITIES OUT OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
AND THE SWIMMING POOL IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE FIFTH ONE.
WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT WORKED OUT IN THE DETAILS YET, BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER OPPOSITION.
I'M TRYING TO WAY, WE WAS TRYING TO MAKE 'EM WORK TOGETHER THAT WAY.
WE WEREN'T ADDING A NEW DRIVE APPROACH ONTO HOUSTON ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE DID THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES ANALYSIS ONTO THAT, BUT THAT ALSO ALLOWED FOR THE CLUB BUILDING.
IT WAS ALREADY USED THERE IN THE SWIMMING POOL THERE TO GET A LITTLE MORE, BE UTILIZED A LITTLE BIT STRONGER THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.
MAKE IT TOUGH TO SELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OR THE OTHER AT ANY GIVEN.
YEAH, NO, IT'S, THEY'RE MADE TO WORK TOGETHER A LITTLE BE A LITTLE MORE COHESIVE DESIGN, STARTING WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DENSER THAN LOWERING THE DENSITY DOWN AS IT'S SHIFTING OVER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S WHY WE LOCATED THE BUFFERS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO GET THE SCREENING FENCE IN MASONRY THE TREES.
TRY, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACKS WERE OVER 50 FEET, THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO 98 FOR ALL THE MAIN STRUCTURES, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SET BACK AT 53 FEET, 55 FEET VERSUS THE 50.
TRYING TO PUSH EVERYTHING FURTHER BACK TO CREATE A NICE GREEN STRIP BUFFER IN BETWEEN TO HAVE A NICE TRANSITION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I MENTIONED TO TRENTON AND, AND WE, WE DISCUSSED THE TOWN HOME PROJECT THAT WE APPROVED OUT ON 2 87.
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SIMILAR TO THIS.UH, AND, UH, WE WOULD THINK WHEN WE APPROVED THAT, WE MADE THE COMMENT THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND STANDARDS WERE KIND OF BE THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD FOR ANY OF THESE TYPE OF, OF PROJECTS.
AND I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LACKING A LITTLE BIT IN THAT AREA.
THAT, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IT IS COMMERCIAL AND, YOU KNOW, 10 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, OR WHATEVER UNITS WE ARE, UH, UNDER WHAT THE NORMAL MULTIFAMILY IS, UH, IS STILL A HECK OF A LOT BETTER THAN, THAN HAVING A WELDING SHOP OR SOMETHING, UH, BEHIND THERE.
AND, AND, AND YOU CAN BASICALLY TELL IT WAS ALL ONE TRACK.
THIS WAS GONNA BE PHASE ONE AND ULTIMATELY PHASE TWO AT SOME POINT WAS GOING TO BE THIS TRACK HERE.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, BOY, I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST PERSONAL, BUT I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LACKING A LITTLE BIT ON THE, ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THEM, EVERY BUILDING IS EXACTLY THE SAME AND, AND NOT REALLY ANY DEVIATION.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ROOM TO BRUISE IT UP A BIT.
YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM TO TWEAK.
WE MODIFIED THE ELEVATIONS QUITE A BIT.
WE HAD LESS MASONRY, TRIED TO BRING MORE ARCHITECTURAL, TO ME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF SIDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WERE DIRECTED TO PUSH MORE AND MORE MASONRY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHEN YOU START DOING SOME OF THAT, YOU LOSE SOME OF THAT ARTICULATION A LITTLE BIT ONTO THAT PART.
AND WE DO HAVE A LOT MORE INS AND OUTS THAT WE DID ADD FOR GABLE INS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTO IT.
TRY TO CREATE EVERY ENTRANCE FEATURE DOES HAVE A BUMP OUT TO, TO THAT ASPECT.
SO BUILDINGS ITSELF, YES, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE SIMILARITY TO TIE IT IN A LITTLE BIT OF COHESIVENESS, BUT EACH THEN ENTRANCE IS DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
EVEN ON ONE BUILDING YOU GOT THREE ENTRANCES AND EACH ENTRANCE IS, IS IS DIFFERENT ON THAT BUILDING.
THAT'S, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR MORE SIDING VERSUS MASONRY AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT THAT WE SAID GOING FORWARD, THIS IS GONNA KIND OF BE THE NORM AND, AND MAYBE GLEAN SOME IDEAS, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THEM.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL LOOK RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST A, AN AN APARTMENT LOOK OR A INSTITUTIONAL TYPE LOOK.
IT'S, THOSE ARE MORE REPLICATE A SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, RESIDENCE THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX OR, YOU KNOW, FOUR UNITS IN A GROUP OR SIX UNITS IN A GROUP.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATELY, BUT YEAH, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE MODEL THAT FITS ON THAT TRACK FOR THESE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THAT'S HOW THE ECONOMICS WORK.
BUT, UH, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PASSED SOMETHING AND KIND OF AGREED THAT THAT WAS FOR THE MOST PART GONNA BE THE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM DESIRE GUIDELINES GOING FORWARD, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'D, WE'D LIKE TO, WE'D LIKE TO STICK TO THAT.
I, SORRY, I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, UH, RESEND, RESEND THEM THAT PD WITH THOSE ELEVATIONS ON IT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THAT'S TRIM WORK OR WELL, YES.
SIDING WORK OR, WELL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THOSE ARE GONNA SELL FOR, YOU KNOW, 10, 12, 15, 20% MORE THAN MAYBE OR RENT THAN, THAN MAYBE WHAT, WHAT THESE ARE.
AND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO DO SOME THINGS KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET HIGHER RENT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU COULD GET HIGHER RENT TOO IF YOU PROVED THEM A LITTLE.
I I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK INCREASING THE COST IS NECESSARILY GONNA KEEP YOUR RENTS THE SAME.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HERE TO IMPROVE YOUR RATE STRUCTURE.
WHAT SECURITY MEASURES ARE IN PLACE, AS FOR THIS SUBDIVISION, DO YOU HAVE SECURITY SYSTEMS INSTALLED IN EACH UNIT? THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE TENANT MOST LIKELY.
IF THEY WANNA PAY FOR THE SECURITY, WHATEVER.
I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO ADD.
UH, IS IT ALL GATED, ALL SECURE ENTRY? NO.
IT'S JUST LIKE A, THE ROADS AT HOUSTON, JUST LIKE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
YEAH, IT'S THE ROADS OFF HOUSTON ARE CURRENTLY OPEN.
THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL BE GATED WILL BE THE JOHNSON THAT'S, YEAH.
JUST TO KEEP EMERGENCY ACCESS THE, FOR THE, FOR THE FIRE KEY FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH.
THEY WAS WANTING TO HAVE THAT FOR EMERGENCY EXITS ONLY.
SO THAT'S ALL THE GATES FOR, SO THAT WE HAD NOX LOCK PUT ONTO THAT.
SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD'VE THE
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ACCESS, IS THAT MANAGEMENT OFFICE 24 7 IF IT'S JUST, OR IS IT JUST NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS? I THINK IT, CURRENTLY IT'S NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME MONITORING THAT'S GOING ON THERE, SO THEY KIND OF HAVE THE COMES AND GOINGS WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THERE, THE ENTRYWAY.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK Y'ALL.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
ASHLEY, SIR, I HAVE SOME QUESTION.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE CITY SECRETARY JUDITH ALLISON KINCAID 5 0 1 HOUSTON AVENUE.
I, UM, THE 34 LETTERS THAT WERE SENT OUT WERE THOSE SENT TO THE PEOPLE OF THE ACTUAL HOUSING ON THE NORTH SIDE AND NOT THE CURRENT OCCUPANTS OF HERITAGE SQUARE.
SO I, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THIS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S TWO SETS OF LETTERS THAT WERE SENT OUT.
THE CITY SENT OUT THE LETTERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, WE CAN PULL THE LIST AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT ALSO SENT OUT SEPARATE NOTICES, WHICH I THINK THEY REFLECTED THAT 34 NOTICES.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT RADIUS THEY USE, BUT WE USE, UM, ACCORDING TO STATE LAW OF HOW WE SEND NOTICES, THOUGH, ANYONE WITHIN 200 FEET WE SEND NOTICE TO, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MY FELLOW RESIDENCE, UM, NOBODY IN HERITAGE SQUARE TOWN HOMES CURRENTLY RECEIVED NOTICE.
FIRST NOTICE WE GOT WAS WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WENT UP.
AND SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF RECORD.
SO IF YOU RENT, UNFORTUNATELY, UNLESS THEY WERE TO NOTIFY YOU, UM, YOU WOULDN'T RECEIVE A, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU WOULDN'T RECEIVE A NOTICE OF THAT.
AND THEY MAY HAVE CONCENTRATED ON THE HOUSES TO THE SOUTH, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT.
THE SECOND THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT TOWN HOMES THAT ARE IN PLACE, THE ALMOST HISTORICAL UNITS MM-HMM
SO IF THE AMENITIES ARE GOING TO INCLUDE, IF THIS, IF PHASE TWO IS GOING TO MELD INTO PHASE ONE AMENITIES, THAT'S NOT A VERY LARGE AREA FOR THAT POOL.
I'M SORRY, YOU'RE GONNA DUMP AN EXTRA A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THAT VERY SMALL POOL.
JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND WE HAVE BEEN KIND OF LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE TWO UNITS WERE GOING, THE TWO PHASES WE'RE GONNA BE COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT, THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE.
AND I WAS ALSO CONCERNED IS WHERE YOUR BLUE MARK IS, UM, THAT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE CUTTING INTO SOME OF PHASE ONE'S PARKING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S REPRESENTING ANYTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF SMALL.
THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE PROPERTY LOCATION, THE GENERAL PROPERTY LOCATION.
BUT IT IS NOW UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, THE TWO TOWNHOMES ARE GONNA BE ONE, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OWNER, BUT I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO MAIL THEM OR TO KEEP 'EM SEPARATE.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT DECISION HAS BEEN FULLY MADE FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
KENDRA NORWOOD AGAIN,
SO I'M HEARING THAT NOTICES ARE SENT OUT TO THE OWNERS AND THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN A COPY OF THE OWNERS THAT REC, THAT THE NOTICES SHOULD HAVE GONE TO AND THAT THEY'RE NEVER MAILED TO THE RENTERS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAILED TO WHAT'S ON THE TAX ROLL.
AND WHO SHOULD WE REACH OUT TO FOR A COPY OF THOSE? THANK YOU.
DON KANE, RESIDENT OF 5 0 1 HOUSTON STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL, I JUST, IF I COULD SPEAK FREELY, I LIVED THERE.
I WAITED THREE YEARS TO MOVE THERE, UM,
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SO THAT I COULD TAKE CARE OF MY ELDERLY MOTHER.AND ONCE IN THERE, IT WAS REALLY NICE.
WE HAD AN ONSITE PERSON THAT TOOK CARE OF THE UNITS.
YOU COULD DEPEND ON HIM SWEEPING, CLEANING, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE SIDEWALKS WERE SAFE, THAT TREE BRANCHES WERE CUT.
UM, ROCKY SOLD THE PROPERTY TO THE CURRENT OWNERS, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE VERY NICE PEOPLE, BUT THE WAY THEY HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE PROPERTY SINCE HAS BEEN HORRIFIC.
UM, I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE MANAGER.
UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW I'M PAINTING MY UNIT, UM, ON THE INSIDE.
UM, IT'S, THE MANNER IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED IS LOW QUALITY.
UM, YOU DON'T GET QUICK ANSWERS.
YOU DON'T GET, YOU GET IGNORED.
IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, THE DRAIN UNDERNEATH MY BATHROOM SINK IS LEAKING, IT MIGHT BE, OH, HEY, WE'LL WE'LL GET SOMEONE OUT ON TUESDAY.
UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST ME, IT'S OTHER NEIGHBORS.
UH, MY CONCERN IS, UM, I'M ALL FOR MULTIPURPOSE USE OF THIS PROPERTY OR EVEN DEVELOPMENT WITH GARAGES BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED I NEED A GARAGE.
I COME FROM A BUILDER FAMILY, SO I HAVE ACCESSORIES THAT I'M PAYING $400 A MONTH AT A STORAGE UNIT TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, HOLD ALL MY THINGS, MY TOOLS AND THINGS THAT I COULDN'T BRING WITH ME TO THESE TOWN HOMES.
UM, WE'RE TOLD WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE BACKYARDS.
THOSE ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY SMALL.
SO YOU CAN'T CONSIDER THAT ONE OF THE AMENITIES.
UM, THE FRONT, UM, AGAIN, LOW BALLING, LANDSCAPING, SOME 200 YEAR OLD OAKS, BECAUSE THEY'VE CUT OFF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM THE MINUTE THEY TOOK POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, SAID THEY DIDN'T WORK, THEY WERE WORKING JUST FINE, THEY JUST TURNED THEM OFF.
WE'VE GOT TREES, WE'VE LOST ALL KINDS OF BUSHES.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT MAINTAINED WELL.
AND MY WORRY IS, IS THAT I'M SURE THESE WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.
I PROBABLY WOULD WANNA MOVE INTO ONE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE A GARAGE AND THEN I COULD NOT, I COULD INCLUDE IN MY RENT WHAT I'M PAYING FOR STORAGE.
UM, BUT I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULD BE MAINTAINED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, THE POOL DOESN'T HAVE A CABANA CLUBHOUSE.
WE'RE TOLD THERE'S A BATHROOM AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE WHEN SHE, WHEN THE MANAGER IS THERE.
AND SHE'S VERY RARELY THERE 'CAUSE SHE LIVES CLOSE ENOUGH.
SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, MANAGING THE PROPERTY, UM, FROM HOME AND THEN GET THERE IN AN EMERGENCY.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT'S TAKING CARE OF THAT PROPERTY AND OTHER DUPLEXES THAT ARE NEARBY.
'CAUSE SHE'S OFFERED ME, UH, AN OPTION OF MOVING TO ANOTHER PROPERTY BECAUSE I NEED MORE SPACE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY I LOST MY MOM TWO YEARS AGO, SO I'M IN THAT MODE OF, YOU KNOW, MOVING FURNITURE AND SWITCHING THINGS OUT AND CLEANING HOUSE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN'T MOVE ON A DIME.
AND I THINK IF WE MELD THESE TWO PROPERTIES TOGETHER, WE'RE GOING TO SEE NOT AN IMPROVEMENT NECESSARILY IN HOW THE NORTHERN PROPERTIES ARE MANAGED, BUT JUST THE SAME OLD THING.
AND, AND SO THEN YOU HAVE REALLY NICE APARTMENTS THAT OVER TIME WILL BE IGNORED.
WILL DECAY WILL BECOME DILAPIDATED.
BUT ALSO I, MYSELF, PERSONALLY, I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND OHANA.
I'VE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE PROBABLY, I THINK I'VE BEEN THERE SEVEN YEARS NOW.
I THINK I'VE CALLED PROBABLY SEVEN DIFFERENT TIMES, MAYBE EIGHT, NINE OR 10.
UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY FROM PEOPLE SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS OR SOMEONE SHOOTING OFF A GUN OR SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, UM, CREATING PROBLEMS FOR A TENANT.
AND, UH, THE POLICE COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.
BUT BECAUSE OF OUR LOCATION SO CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY, WE GET A FAIRLY HIGH TRANSIENT, UH, POPULATION.
UM, WE HAD A GUY THAT WAS LIVING IN THE CHURCH FIELD THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS, RIGHT NEXT TO MARK STREET.
SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE TWO ENTRIES OFF OF MARK STREET.
THERE'S NOT MARK STREET DIES RIGHT INTO WHERE THE OFFICE WOULD BE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC.
AGAIN, I'M FOR THE CHANGE FOR THE ZONING, BUT I THINK, UH, LOOKING AT THE BUILDING MATERIALS AGAIN AND HOW WELL THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN MAINTAINED TO THE NORTH,
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IF THEY'RE BRINGING THESE TOGETHER, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE INVESTOR'S TRACK RECORD WITH OTHER PROPERTIES.UM, BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER SEE A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL GO INTO THAT SECTION, MAYBE FIVE UNITS, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE GONE AT 5:00 PM YOU WOULDN'T BE COMING HOME AND YOU'D HAVE AN EXTRA 100, 200 CARS, UM, COMING AND GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU CAN HEAR THE KIDS HOT DOGGING DOWN THE STREET AND PEELING OFF.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, WHEN, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING HOW YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE ZONING.
ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[14. Consider recommendation of ZDC-174-2024]
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO, TRENTON, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CODIFY SOMETHING THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OR, UM, THAT THAT'S, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO DO AT THE DAIS OF PUTTING LANGUAGE IN THERE TO CODIFY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UM, ONE OF MY FEARS IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT, RIGHT.
OF HOW, I MEAN, IMAGES ARE REALLY THE BEST WAY OF CODIFYING IT IN THE ORDINANCES NOWADAYS.
UM, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, UM, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITION THAT REVISED, UM, ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS BE SUBMITTED, VARYING ELEVATIONS, UH, PER BILLINGS.
HOWEVER, WHEN IT GOES TO COUNSEL, HOWEVER, YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT.
AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA MY CONCERN.
I WOULD ALMOST SAY CONTINUOUS WOULD BE THE BEST ACTION, UM, FOR THIS IT, IT WOULD MAKE IT THE MORE, I MEAN, IS THE APPLICANT CAN APPLICANT COME BACK UP OR, OR ARE SINCE YOU'RE GETTING
ZONING ENFORCE AS A CIVIL, YEAH.
ARE ARE, ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO GO BACK TO YOUR OWNER AND SAY, LOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO YEAH, I THINK SO.
WITH GETTING WHATEVER THE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, SEE WHAT, HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT YOU'RE OKAY WITH SOME OF THAT DETAIL CONTINUING THIS UNTIL Y'ALL HAVE THE YEAH.
THAT'D BE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE MORE APT TO APPROVE THAN GOING, OKAY, IF WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE THE CLIENT A BETTER OPTION TO SAY, WE CAN GO BACK TO 'EM.
HERE'S HERE IS SOME REVISED OPTIONS PER THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN DECIDE ON THAT FIFTH AMENITY AMENITY.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AT THE, THE SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE IN YOUR PLAYGROUND AND YOUR PICKLEBALL COURT TO KIND OF WEDGE EVERYTHING IN FOR THOSE, UH, PROPOSED TENANTS.
IT MAY, I MEAN, IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET A SCALE KIND OF ON HOW IT REALLY IS OR HOW BIG THAT IS.
SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOMETHING TO US THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT MAY LOOK SMALL, BUT IT'S THIS BIG.
OR WE DID TRY TO CREATE SOME DECENT SIZE THERE AND WE ALSO TRIED TO LOCATE IT CENTRALLY.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE DEVELOPING OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE WALKABLE SIDEWALKS.
IT'S NOT A CLOSED IN YOU, YOU GO TO A PARKING LOT AND GET TO A VEHICLE.
IT'S, NO, IT'S, IT'S TREATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASPECT.
AND THEN HAVING THAT LOOP ALL THE WAY AROUND ON THE OUTER SIDE GIVES A GOOD KIND OF A WALKING TRACK YEAH.
FOR WALKING IN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S.
WHY HE WAS ALSO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE CARS WERE TUCKED IN BACK.
TO, TO CHAIRMAN KEELER POINT, AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME TO LOOK AT, BUT I THINK THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, MAYBE TO PUT A THOUGHT, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE YEAH.
THERE'S, THERE'S EFFORTS TOWARDS THE FRONT FACADE, BUT NOW IF WE LOOK AT THE BACK FACADE, IT LOOKS VERY
IT, IT, IT HAD 360 DEGREE ARCHITECTURE E EXACTLY.
AND, AND JUST AS A, AS A LEVEL OF GUIDANCE, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
SO IF, IF, IF THAT BEING THE CASE, YOU KNOW, CHAIR
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WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE UNTIL EITHER THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER.ALSO MOVE, WE CONTINUE, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN MOTION.
CARRIE, REAL QUICK, UH, FOR THAT MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE THAT YOU WANT TO, TO CONTINUE THE CASE? TWO.
WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE? AUGUST 12.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY MOVE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO GIVE US A ONE A MONTH.
YOU DO FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR VOTE ON THAT.
UH, CAN WE GET A CLEAN VOTE ON THE NEW MOTION JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE RECORD? YEAH.
WE'RE KILLING IT WITH OUR MATH TONIGHT.
UH, YEAH, I'M STILL GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER.
[15. Public Hearing on a request by Urpi Arriola, MWSW Texas, for a Zoning Change from a Planned Development-14-Heavy Industrial (PD-14-HI) zoning district to Planned Development-Commercial (PD-C) zoning district, for the Crossroads 287 mixed-use development, located at 1601 W US Highway 287 Bypass, (Property ID 239122) - Owner: CSW Waxahachie LP (ZDC-195-2024)]
PUBLIC HEARING.I'M GONNA REQUEST BY PY AREOLA, MWSW TEXAS FOR ZONING CHANGE FROM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 14 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE CROSSROADS 2 87 MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED 1601 WEST US HIGHWAY 2 87, BYPASS PROPERTY ID 2 3 9 1 22.
OWNER CSW ATCH LP CDC DASH 1 95 DASH 2024.
UH, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY IS, UM, THIS IS THE FORMER PROPERTY THAT WHERE THE MAG IN 2011 WHERE THE MAG BLEND, UH, FACILITY CAUGHT FIRE WAS DESTROYED IN 2011.
IF YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
IN 2018, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS, UM, ACQUIRED BY THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE IN 2024.
UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS CSW DEVELOPMENT AS PART AND AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT CSW UH, PROMISE TO FILL AS PART OF THIS IN ORDER TO, UH, MEET CERTAIN, UM, MILESTONES AND, UH, PROMISES WITH THAT.
AS PART OF THIS, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO, UM, DOES MEET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THEY ARE PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH APPROXIMATELY 35,500 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE.
14,950 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE, TWO STANDALONE RESTAURANTS AND TWO FOUR STORY HOTELS WITH A CONFINED TOTAL OF 263 ROOMS. UH, THIS, ONCE AGAIN, THIS PD THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH, UH, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, UM, SITE.
UM, AS THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND, AND PREPARING THIS ZONING APPLICATION, THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING MET, UH, IN, IN THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, THE ELEVATIONS, IT'S A MORE MINIMALIST, UH, ELEVATIONS WITH VARYING, UH, ARTI ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS BEING MET.
I'M EXCEEDING SOME OF OUR ARTICULATION BEFORE, UH, VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A SIGN PLAN WHERE, UH, SIGNAGE WILL BE CONSISTENT, UH, AMONGST THE BUILDING.
UM, THE HOTELS AND THE MEDICAL CENTER, UH, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET, UH, DESIGN WISE THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO MEET.
UM, THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, CERTAIN DESIGNS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE BRANDS.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES THAT MEDICAL CENTER.
UM, AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, NOT ONLY DID WE WORK ON THE SITE DESIGN, WORKED ON ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, WE WANT THIS, UH, TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY TO BLEND IN WITH THE AREA AROUND IT.
AS THIS AREA CONTINUES TO EMERGE AND CONTINUE TO REDEVELOP, UM, WHEN THIS, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, WE SEND OUT NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE, WE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
UH, THE PROPOSED SIGNS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH A LOT OF OUR NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, MORE OF A MINIMALISTIC SIGN USING BLADE SIGNS.
UM, MORE ARCHITECTURAL THOUGHT HAS BEEN PUT INTO HOW THE SIGN'S GONNA LOOK OVERALL.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A SIGN PLAN WHERE ALL BLENDS IN, UM, GIVING IT A CLEAN, CLEAN OVERALL DESIGN OF THIS, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND I CAN ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SO THE PICTURES,
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PRETTY PICTURES.BASICALLY ARE ONLY GOING TO APPLY TO WHERE IT SAYS THE SHOPS.
CORRECT? UH, IT'S GONNA APPLY TO THE, THE OFFICE RETAIL STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT THE MEDICAL BUILDING AND THE HOTEL AND THE TWO HOTELS.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE TWO HOTELS.
TWO HOTELS CAN BE WHATEVER THOSE TYPE HOTELS LOOK LIKE TO A DEGREE.
TO, UM, THEY, THERE ARE STILL DESIGN CENTERS THAT WERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET.
IT'S A VERY STRINGENT AGREEMENT, WHICH, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEETING ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS RIGHT.
SO IF A FLAG COMES, IT BETTER BE THE BEST THAT THAT FLAG BUILDS.
AND THE RESTAURANT WILL LOOK WHATEVER THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME, SO THAT DESIGN THERE IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE THE SHOPS? CORRECT.
AND THOSE STANDALONE RESTAURANTS, THERE ARE CERTAIN DESIGNS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW AS WELL, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR OVERALL BRAND.
AND PAD B CAN BE ANYTHING ON THE, LEMME JUST VERIFY UPPER RIGHT CORNER.
IT'S NOT RESTRICTED ON ANYTHING.
IT, I'M SURE IT'S GOT USES, BUT YEAH.
SO WE, THERE ARE VERY REGARDING, UH, ARE YOU LOOKING AT PAD B, PAD B UP, UPPER RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT CAN BE, UH, THAT CAN BE A MIXED USE, DEVELOP A MIXED USE SITE.
ONE OF OUR MIXED USE RETAIL CENTERS.
UM, AS, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
BUT THERE, I WANNA, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND SAY AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS, UM, COUNCIL'S VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT USES THEY WANTED AT THIS SITE.
AND SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC ON THE TYPES OF USES.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOUR THOUGHTS AS IT WENT THROUGH FOR APPROVAL.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.
UH, 1408 RIDGE AVENUE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.
UH, LIKE TRENTON SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALBERT AND, UH, THE CITY AND THE STAFF FOR, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE ABOUT NINE MONTHS NOW.
UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO, UH, WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
WE THINK IT'S GONNA ADD A LOT OF GOOD RETAIL RESTAURANT USES AND, UM, BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE REALLY NEEDS, UM, A NEW LOCATION OR AN EXPANSIVE LOCATION AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA KICK THE PROJECT OFF WITH.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD, UH, MIXED USE, UM, POTENTIALS AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER? YES, SIR.
AND YOU'RE GONNA, THESE ARE SEVEN, EIGHT PLANTED LOTS.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TREAT IT ALL AS ONE LOT AND IN THE FUTURE TILL REFL, REFL RE AND WE'RE GONNA REPL ONCE WE FIGURE OUT A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR GOAL, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING, EVERY TIME SOMETHING MOVES A FOOT OR TWO SURE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO RIGHT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO WE WILL OWN AND LEASE ALL THESE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
NOW THE HOTELS, THAT MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD BE A FUTURE SALE, BUT, UM, WE, WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF MEDICAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT OWNERSHIP MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S THE OTHER STANDALONE RESTAURANT.
YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT UP THERE AT THE, UH, INTERSECTION, WE'RE GONNA PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN WHICH WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON.
WE'RE WORKING WITH TDOT RIGHT NOW, SO THAT, THAT'LL BE A GOOD FOOD YEAH.
THERE'S NOT A PLACE ON EARTH THAT NEEDS A TRAFFIC LIGHT MORE THAN THAT ONE.
IS THAT YOUR TRAFFIC LIGHT, PATRICK? YEAH.
I GOT MY YIELD SIGNS UP THERE.
SO I MEAN THAT ARE PUT IN A RUNWAY.
WE GOT ROADS, WE GOT RAILROAD, WE GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING HAPPENING THERE.
PUT IN A BUS STOP AND THE RUNWAY AND WE GOT IT COVERED.
SO IF THE PLAN IS APPROVED, ARE YOU OPPOSED TO COMING BACK ONCE YOU GET, UM, AS YOU PROGRESS IN GETTING SOME OF THESE SITES ESTABLISHED? UH, WELL WE'VE GOTTA GO BACK THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD COME THROUGH WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
AND, AND THERE, THERE'S VARIOUS CHECKS AND MEASURES DURING THIS PROCESS, UM, THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THAT A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT NOT BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH.
UM, SO A SITE PLAN REVIEW, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, UH, WITH CERTAIN ELEVATIONS
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AND DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.HOW ARE WE ON SOIL? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A CATASTROPHIC DAY IN WAHS HISTORY AND WHERE THERE WAS A CHEMICAL PLANT THERE.
ARE WE GOOD THERE? EVERYTHING.
AS, AS PART OF THE LAND, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE SITE'S BEEN MI MITIGATED, UM, THEY WENT THROUGH THAT.
WE'VE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
CITY OF STATUTE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, AS THEY CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL MITIGATION THAT HAS TO OCCUR, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT ADDITIONAL MITIGATION.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY ON ALL OF OUR MINDS AND YEAH.
BUT, UH, Y'ALL, THE CITY WENT THROUGH THE TCEQ PROCESS ON THE CLEANUP AND UH, WE SURE HOPE THAT LETTER'S GOOD.
SO AS AN INVESTOR THOUGH, YOU'RE CONFIDENT THOUGH, RIGHT? YOU'VE YEAH, WE ARE.
AND WE'VE DONE, YOU OBVIOUSLY FEEL GOOD YOU WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING, BUT WE'VE DONE SUBSEQUENT SOIL TESTING, UM, AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE IN LINE.
ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE.
[16. Consider recommendation of ZDC-195-2024]
WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZDC DASH 1 9 5 DASH 2 0 2 4.A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST FOR THE CROSSROADS 2 87 MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THE STAFF REPORT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OR HIS CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
IT WASN'T A BIG LAKE RIGHT THERE.
I SAW HIM SHAKING HIS HEAD
[Additional Item]
ANYTHING FART THIS EVENING? UH, YEAH.SO, UM, A COUPLE, ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO, UH, WE WENT ON TOUR TO, UM, WITH SOME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
AND NOW THAT TOUR TOUR I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, MADE, I MADE A PROMISE ABOUT TRAINING EVERYONE.
UM, AND I'M BEING HELD TO THAT PROMISE.
SO IN AUGUST, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE TO SCHEDULE A TRAINING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF DIFFERENT TRAININGS I WANNA HOLD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE AS WE CONTINUE ON TO, TO LEARN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF ZONING.
I'M A LITTLE NERDY THAT WAY, SO I APOLOGIZE.
UM, BUT IT JUST GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL, UM, INSIGHT, UM, WHAT WE DO, WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF ZONING IS, AND I JUST HOPE ALL OF YOU CAN ATTEND.
SO IF YOU DO, I'M GOING TO SCHEDULE IT FOR THE SAME DAY AS ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, BUT I DO FIND IT WILL BE VALUABLE FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS, SO, OKAY.
TRENTON, ON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US THIS EVENING? I DO NOT.
CHAD, YOU GOT ANYTHING FOR US? WELL, FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T BEEN OFFICIALLY TRAINED, WE HAVE READ A FEW BOOKS AND WE'VE DONE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT AN AUDIENCE OUT HERE THINKING YES.
THIS IS OUR FIRST CALF ROPE OR SOMETHING.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SIT HERE WHEN THERE'S, WHEN THOSE SEATS ARE EMPTY, IT JUST, IT'S A SIGNAL THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T CARE WHEN THEY'RE FULL.
ANYTHING FOR US THIS EVENING? I SECOND THAT.
THANK YOU'ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
TERRY, ANYTHING FOR US? WELL NOTICE SINCE I'M SITTING NEXT TO HIM, YOU CAN KEEP ON THAT BRIDGE.
HAVE THAT COUNCILMAN ANYTHING FOR US? YES, SIR.
UM, AGAIN, SEND OUT THE PRAYERS TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, UM, THE MOST TERRIBLE WAY OF LOSS OF LIFE, BUT EVEN THOSE OF, OF DAMAGE TO PROPERTY, UM, DOWN IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO HELP OUT HOWEVER YOU CAN.
UM, CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE HAS SENT SOME FIREFIGHTERS DOWN THERE TO ASSIST IN, UH, IN THE PROCESS.
SO LET'S KEEP THEM IN OUR PRAYERS TOO, THAT THEY COME HOME SAFE.
UM, I FAILED TO MENTION WE DO HAVE A NEW PLANNER HERE, UH, STAFF MEMBER DAVID JONES.
UM, HE DID JOIN US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
UM, WE'RE EXCITED FOR WHAT HE'S GONNA BRING TO OUR TEAM AND WHAT HE'S GONNA BRING TO THE CITY.
IF, IF, IF SAM'S WOULD'VE BEEN TONIGHT,
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YOU'D HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIMEDEFINITELY WOULD'VE SHED THE SPORT COAT.